One Possibility to Get Rid of Trump - Faithless Electoral

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   Paul Wingertposted 7 years ago

   FORGET PRAYING that something will prevent Trump from taking office! It’s like signing the stupid Impeach Bush or Obama petitions that does absolutely nothing except giving you the feeling like you did something by doing absolutely noting! If you give a crap, DO SOMETHING like look into this, download/fill out the forms include in this and other sources under Faithless Elector or any source that deals with the electoral college. They have the power to alter their electoral votes and void Trumps presidency.  This needs to be done as soon as possible. I believe the electoral college meets on Dec 4th. The following is such an incident where the presidency was denied to a victorious candidate.
   During Faithless Elector (wikipedia) During the 1836 election, Virginia's entire 23-man electoral delegation faithlessly voted against victorious Democratic Party Vice Presidential Candidate Richard Mentor Johnson[1] due to Johnson's openly admitted, publicized, long-term interracial relationship with his slave, Julia Chinn. The loss of Virginia's support caused Johnson to fall one electoral vote short of a majority, causing the Vice Presidential election to be thrown into the U.S. Senate for the only time in American history. However, Virginia's electors voted for Martin Van Buren as pledged, meaning the presidential election itself was not in dispute. The U.S. Senate ultimately elected Johnson anyway after a party-line vote. Despite 157 instances of faithlessness as of 2015, faithless electors have not yet affected the results or ultimate outcome of any other presidential election.
   
   
   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-a … 97066.html

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      PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Howd that work out for ya Mr. Wingert.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   Well now , Lets just get rid of him , Hey "I know a guy that knows a guy , you know what I mean ?". Why don't we impeach Trump even before he is officially in office ?    How about we invoke  our Revolution  Restitution Clause  and just burn it down!   .Join the thugs in the street and burn a few police cruisers    Why don't we ask the Clintons what we should do ? The people and the electoral process have spoken clearly ,   IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT OUR FIFTH ESTATE DIDN'T LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE  YOUR AND THIER THEIR INCREDIBLE BIAS AND BLINDING HATED  !     What the left has to do right now is just plain suck it up , grow a pair and move on , wait for your turn . much like mommy used to tell you when she said ;
   "Now honey , Put on your big boy pants " Might as well listen to her,  Canada wants to put up with such childish and meaningless selfish attitudes almost as much as Putin would.
   
   You got a vote - and you lost . welcome to  VOTES -R US !

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   Live to Learnposted 7 years ago

   Hillary Clinton attempted to calculate a win through electoral college votes and miscalculated. Karmic justice, I say. But, on the surface, I agree the electoral college might need to be set aside. We've had this conversation after quite a few presidential elections. Unfortunately those who back the winner rarely like the idea. And when the roles are reversed those who were complaining become those smugly smiling.
   
   What might be a more doable task is to clean up the corruption within the DNC so when it has an electable candidate seeking the nomination they might stand a chance of winning the nomination.

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      Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Trump stated he will bankrupt America and make a new deal. He is right, most people know it too, America is going bankrupt either way. It is just that he is not the man to make new deals based on his corporatism corrupted and failed businesses background.
      
      War is the only answer for people to wake up and take control of their live rather Corporatism running Americans lives into servant and slaves or ruins our lives like in the middle East.
      
      Sorry, I am not Frontline insane enough to join this civil and world war revolution. Yet will return with solutions and to help clean up the mess. These massive white heads on many US CITIZENS neck, must grow to a full size second head then into a two face head. Then explode it with a guns and bomb's like how Hollywood hit series of fantasy violence that been preparing YOU's Alll for this for a long time.

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         Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry, if we have to take drastic action to clean this mess up we won't be looking to a coward to step in after the danger and take charge.

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            Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Remember I'm fearless, just not stupid. It takes alot more courageous person to do what ever it take to improve the natural environment than to steal and damage from it. It takes more courageous person to give kindness, harmony and be harmless for all earthlings than to create the greatest genocide for both creatures and humans in this world today.
            
            Take your pick, it is your karma at stake?

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               Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Tooting your own horn doesn't equate to you actually being whatever you immodestly claim to be. It's a faceless forum here.

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                  Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  That is my face on this forum and yours is a pussy and get a load of that TRUMPET.

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                     Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     I will say that this pussy as you pointed out would be in the line of fire if need be. Although with my abnormally large head for a cat I'd probably be an easy target.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Then switch to a tiger or a golden lab of charactor, what is wrong with your own face. Just don't including your name for privacy act.

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                           Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Well, if I used my own face I would be recognized. Can't be having that now

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                              Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Anything other than a pussy with a big head at that.
                              On a political forum, please seriously.

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                                 Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 The big head is, unfortunately, necessary to encompass the exceptionally large brain. But, cats are traditionally walkers between the worlds so not only do I benefit from a really, really, big brain but the spirits point extra stuff out too. It would be a travesty to bemoan my look when I benefit so much from it.
                                 
                                 Sure, your blond hair may excite the ladies but is that anywhere close to what I'm getting from my avatar?

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                                    Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    Avatar is the most popular film ever and mine too.
                                    
                                    Use an avatar creature both fantasy, honorable ethics, strength and above all truth warriors of nature. Too many people will step on your tiny pussy like a door mat.

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                                       Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       Step on me like a doormat? Have you ever attempted to tame a wild kitten? Step on me and be ready for stitches on your ankles. How dangerous are you? The only thing you can threaten is locking someone into one of your tiny eco houses without room for a microwave.

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                                          Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                          If anyone is afraid of a baby ball of fluff, they need to be examined. I was licked by a 500 Pound Siberian Tiger. Then he walked over and chopped through a cow bone bigger than my arm in one bite. Now that is a Cat.
                                          
                                          For the X and Y generations of people these tiny house are twice the size they are living in now. They are affordable to 90℅ to buy of the world's population for both energy and comfort. Housing today kills animals habitat , what more destroys and kills most animals on the planet?
                                          It takes more than courage to build an entire community of them.

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   Live to Learnposted 7 years ago

   It just occurred to me. I wonder if any study can be done to determine how many people swapped votes, if that vote swapping actually caused any upset in the balance of the electoral college.
   
   Wouldn't it be a hoot to find out that attempt to manipulate the system (by democrats) caused that party to lose.

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   Leland Johnsonposted 7 years ago

   Now is not the time to be discussing the possibility of scrapping the electoral college.  It's like trying to claim the $500 for landing on Free Parking when all players agreed to leave Free Parking out of the game.  It's done.  The point is that had circumstances been reversed and Clinton won all her supporters would acknowledge the validity of the electoral college.  Wait one year begin complaining.  However, by that time I'm sure there'll be plenty of other things for the Left to complain about; eg an improved economy, a strengthened military, things like that.

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   wildernessposted 7 years ago

   It is a solution, yes.  Simply throw ethics out the window in an effort to get what you want.  It is the way of the swamp, after all, and the biggest reason Trump is President, so why change anything?  After all, liberals don't want ethical and responsible legislators, so why should they retain any ethics themselves?

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      Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The whole Government is Illegitimate, base on Corruption of Corporatism. It is not base on sound ethics like the American Constitution or true democracy like it drums repeatedly like a Religion. Large Hierarchy systems will always break their own ethically rules more than anyone.

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         wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         No argument from me.  And when we advocate losing the ethics of the people themselves to get the results we want we are no better than that government.

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            Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            There are smaller, more ethically, more happier Governments in other countries. Just get rid of your FEDs and you got one too.

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   jacharlessposted 7 years ago

   While a novel idea, the Faithless Electoral Vote will not work.
   The largest amount of Faithless electors was 36, in 1836, when Greeley died unexpectedly causing his entire delegation to vote third-party. In order for Clinton to overturn the current electorate, she would need minimum of 72 faithless. Given the Republicans now have full control over the House, Senate, Supreme Court and Executive branch, fail to see any going no-vote.
   
   The reality is in the map. By comparison, Red outweighed Blue & Yellow 15:1. Frightening? Absolutely. Even inversely, would still be frightening.
   
   

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