Dangerous Liberals
I did not define myself that way. Horsey and GA did. I merely accepted the label since it seems to pop up every time I correct horsey's factual error or use the term "uneducated white voter" within reading distance of GA..
The reason why you didn't see these protests was because the majority of people weren't nearly as concerned about Obama having a 'hateful disposition' meant to intentionally stir up hard feelings among our DIVERSE population AND the entire world. Also, he had the 'book knowledge' and some political experience to do the job. We may have elected 'someone unusual'; but we didn't elect an irresponsible, hate-mongering, spiteful jerk. Obama & Hillary have both been quite gracious losers. The other side was threatening us with GUNS if they lost!! I suppose we should all be grateful.
Hillary lost for three reasons:
1) The electorial college vs popular vote. FYI, because the GOP won BUT didn't win the popular vote means that MOST people in this country did NOT vote for their policies. Thus, the protests.
2) The majority of white Christian women for some reason obviously don't think the same way about things as other Christian women of other races. The same thing goes for men, but they have an easier time throwing the excuse of 'we're ANGRY' at the world.
3) Comey's conveniently-timed, illegal stunt that was designed to remind people of Hillary's 'badness' over The Donald's at a critical juncture AT THE END of the race.
This is why INDEPENDENTS (not 'liberals' or 'democrats') are ANGRY with the election results:
1) You vote only the way Republicans and/or your Preachers TELL you to (Franklin Graham!) - like, KEEP voting FOR rich people because THEY have the money to let us work menial jobs beneath them so they can pay us peanuts; and their money can 'trickle down' to us humble folks. (Jesus doesn't want anyone to have any money anyway, right?)
2) Vote FOR wars because we all know that whomever we are fighting are NOT Christians; and therefore we are 'on the side of God' when we go to war. Those heathens NEED to either accept JC as their savior and DO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO - or DIE. Its unfortunate, but NOT OUR FAULT that they will go to hell.
3) Vote FOR anyone who is Pro-Life in order to eliminate abortions in this country (no matter WHAT); because GOD is judging us for murdering babies. That's why our country is like it is; and in FACT, there is a verse in the WORD of GOD that SAYS a country will be judged for this crime! It AMAZES me how much they completely ignore trying to fix the REASONS WHY women choose abortion & attempting to fix them. It should also be noted that CHRISTIAN WOMEN are the ones who acquire the MOST abortions in this country (search for my hub question titled, Why do Christian women utilize the 'sin' of abortion the most). There are statistics.
4) They are so damn scared of HELPING each other out through what they consider to be 'socialism' - its ridiculous! What a bunch of SELFISH, UNLOVING, HATEFUL brats. Sorry, LOVE is not a word that comes to mind.
Jesus Christ was a Socialist:
Matt 25: "For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."
Matthew 5 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others?"
If you are a Christian and HATE me for saying any of this - do a heart check. I know, it doesn't usually help you because you're all always so damn RIGHT. But every once in a while it does WONDERS. I know, because I am someone who managed to realize how mind-controlling that religion IS and squirmed my way OUT. Christians have absolutely NO IDEA what it means to actually be FREE - although they sure believe they are. Its HARD to admit that the big eye controls YOU.
Our deep divisions are as profitable as any war; and are very possibly perpetuated intentionally. It is always the SAME government in that office - just varying shades of who cares about the people who live here. The chasm that exists through both America & The World is a lot more simple than most people realize. SEARCH for - Christians & ex-Christians Prove God Exists by Debunking Salvation: Science & Spirituality Reveal the Real Jesus Christ
The so-called "defense budget" for the U.S. was $601 billion in 2015! The numbers don't lie. Obviously violence is the key to getting things done in this world. Otherwise, there would be no reason for such spending. When the U.S. government doesn't agree with something or someone, or even when they think a particular situation (Like Vietnam or Libya) "might" lead to a disagreeable outcome, they pump up the volume with violence and weapons of mass destruction.
But here I see people commiserating about a few thousand unarmed protesters, some of whom have caused minor property damage. Yes minor compared to what the U.S. and their Arab partners have unleashed on the Syrian people since the proxy war began in 2011.
Powerless people get no respect from the powerful. Power only respects power. A peaceful protest accomplishes nothing, and only further empowers and emboldens the opposition. It is only when the status quo feels that the cost of confrontation, in either property or human life is too great, that they seek to compromise, or find a solution to the problem. These are the facts of life. I admire the protesters, and hope they continue to pump up the volume and bring down not only a tyrant, but the evil puppet masters who are pulling his strings.I'm sure you DO admire 18 year olds wilding out for the cause , problem is , they have no clue as to the cause , no meaning to their ideology , no back up for the argument s when questioned . I have never met an alt-left activist that could put together a complete argument without an emotional breakdown or the attempt to outshout their opponent . And I was there in the sixties listening to the same mentality , they made no sense then either !
I guess the pot was good then , today though , they are totally burned out .
The SMART people have spoken! *I* am not an 18yo; and I fully understand 'the cause' - PLUS, I outlined the poor position of Trump's voters pretty thoroughly, above this post. I guess you missed it.
The SMART people have spoken?
I suppose if you can't effectively argue a cause you just call yourself smart and think you've won the point? We all see how that worked out in the election.- I responded to your post. I suppose you are just sooo smart (in your own estimation) that you think if you say something everyone is going to be dumbfounded by its brilliance and automatically declare 'gee she's right'.
Didn't happen.Right, sorry - my apologies, this was stuffed among all the others and I missed it. Stupid me!
Yes, tensions were high throughout the election - and believe it or NOT, people like me were waiting with anticipation (not hate) for the results; FULLY INTENDING on accepting the outcome - until we discovered WHY so many people voted the way they did (ie. white - especially Christian - women & men vs other races). Christian men have an easier time blending in with all the rest of the angry white men who voted; while the split between women is much more evident. Again, why do white Christian women vote so differently than Christian women from other races who have every reason to be at least as angry? The same question goes to white Christian men.
Comey & The Hatch Act: "The rules are violated if it is obvious that the official's actions could influence the election, there is no other good reason for taking those actions, and the official is acting under pressure from persons who obviously do want to influence the election."
Things would have been different surrounding that issue if 1) his original 'announcement' hadn't been so intentionally-criptic & vague; when LATER 2) it took them mere DAYS to go through those 'potentially-incriminating' emails to clear her; when they COULD have done that BEFORE they made any announcements. You don't think that is suspicious, at all?
Voting for Rich: FYI, one of the basic beliefs of the Republican Party is to buff up the rich to let money trickle down to the middle class & poor. It has ALWAYS been part of their platform; and it is also why Christians in those classes vote for them.
"I'm pro choice. I'll be honest. I don't think Drumpf gave a rat's behind about the subject until it came up in the election process. You noticed how he kept changing his stance? He didn't care and had never really thought about it. And, I don't think he will care as president. It's none of his business anyway."
That is one of my points: Republicans use the issue of abortion to manipulate the hearts & minds of good Christian women who simply CANNOT vote for the opposing party who they see as being FOR murdering babies. And as you just indicated, that is exactly what they did. HOWEVER, the concerning thing is that the topics of both immigration & abortion are two things that he can take action on quickly enough when he gets in there. They are two of the things he can carry through on almost immediately to make it appear that he is carrying out the wishes of 'his people'. Christians are actually VERY OPTIMISTIC that abortion will be overturned.
I disagree on the helping out programs, obviously. As many decent people use them as a temporary thing between life situations, as you view lazy people. Certainly there are room for improvements; and we can only improve things by continuing to work on them - not kicking them to the curb.
"The Republican party knows now that they do not speak to the people on issues we care about." I don't know what world you live in; but in case you haven't noticed - their entire platform is based on p*ssing on as many things Obama accomplished over the past eight years as they can; AND they obviously could care LESS about the fact that they did not receive the popular vote.
Thanks for finally replying with a response other than 'you're stupid'. Honestly, the only reason I say it to begin with; is because I keep hearing similar crap from Trumpsters while NOT getting a decent response. Thank you!
wrenchBiscuit Delivers More Medicine and Correction
If the vote mattered you would have a valid argument. As it stands the vote in a presidential election is simply a means of reinforcing the grand fiction that we are living in a free democratic republic, when in truth we are living in an oppressive Imperialist Oligarchy. Voting in a presidential election and participating in government is the absolute worst thing anyone can do. Presidents are decided by a wealthy ruling elite, not by the peasantry. Is Dream On" by Aerosmith your favorite song? One of my favorite songs was recorded by George Jones. It's called "The Cold Hard Truth".
- ahorsebackposted 7 years ago
0 I saw that this morning and am heartbroken.
- Onusonusposted 7 years ago0
The demoralization of American leftist is quite an enigma. You can show them pictures and videos of violent mobs burning, destroying, and looting, and the social justice morons will literally make up every excuse imaginable in order to justify it.
- ahorsebackposted 7 years ago0
- . That was a good one.
Somethings look like they are getting better real fast!
I feel safer and more secure already.- ahorsebackposted 7 years ago0
That's nothing but racist propaganda. And promoting such a fiction is nothing less than an outrage! There are more native born "white" criminals than any other variety. More mass school shootings have been perpetrated by white males, more cops are killed by white males, and more women are raped by white males. If they deport any group, based on the facts and figures it should be white males back to Europa.
Here is an excerpt from my most excellent and insightful Hub entitled "Vote TRUMP In 2016_ An Anarchist's Perspective":
"...This particular argument concerning violence perpetrated by illegal immigrants is remarkable. A recent study published by the American Immigration Council and authored by three professors of sociology and anthropology using information gathered from the U.S. Census states that "roughly 1.6 percent of immigrant males aged 18-36" are behind bars in the U.S. compared to 3.3 percent of the corresponding group of native-born American males. Since the 1980's native-born incarceration rates have been "two to five times higher than those of so-called "illegal immigrants". To further illustrate, the Arizona Department of Corrections will tell you that about 90 percent of those in its custody are U.S citizens, and about 10 percent are "criminal aliens," a category that also includes those who are here legally. On Arizona's Death Row, out of 118 convicted murderers, there is only one Mexican national. The long story short, approx.97.5% of inmates on Arizonas death row are native born U.S. citizens..."
Proportionate figures are irrelevant when we consider the racist rhetoric that has amplified the spurious threat of crime among illegal immigrants. How so? Imagine that there are only 100 illegal Mexicans in the whole United States. Now imagine that half of those illegals are criminals. Wow! Now we are looking at a figure of 50%. However great that proportion may seem, we must put that proportion into the proper perspective. Considering the population of the United States is over 300 million people, in such a scenario even a percentage of 50% is hardly cause for alarm.
The estimated 1.6% of 11 million who are incarcerated hardly signifies a crime wave among illegal aliens. We must also understand that out of that 1.6% many are not incarcerated for violent crimes. And so we can realize that the violent criminals are far less than 1%. Racist's use proportions and percentages, minus perspective, to create fear among the population and to demonize illegal immigrants. This serves several useful purposes for various entities. Primarily it serves to shift the focus away from government and corporate corruption, and the fleecing of taxpayers by miscreant politicians, banks, and evil corporations like Gov.Rick Snyder,Monsanto, Nestle, and Energy Transfer Partners. These are the major criminals and racketeers. It is absurd to suggest that solving the illegal immigration issue will significantly affect the crime rate or greatly improve the standard of living for the poor and the working class.
The illegal immigrant is simply a convenient scapegoat. After 500 years of evil, and after 250 years as a nation, America and the United States have apparently not learned anything at all. The universe was here before us. The universe does not operate with commodities, money, a stock exchange, and world governments. This type of world system is not our natural state. We have been enslaved and made to believe that this is the only way. And in a sense that is true. This is the only way to perpetual servitude, but it is not the way to freedom.
By the way, the people of Flint Michigan still don't have clean water. Many children have been damaged for life. Many may also die as a result. Donald Trump has said nary a word about arresting Rick Snyder for poisoning an entire U.S. city. It is remarkable that if an Islamic group had poisoned an entire U.S. city we all know that the Trump campaign, and every Billy Bob from New York to California would have been screaming murder from the rooftops. But instead, these morons are focusing on poor people from south of the border who are simply trying to feed their families. Yes, the election of Donald Trump is quite sickening. It is truly sickening because in spite of my usual anti-American rhetoric, I have secretly hoped that I was wrong about the American mainstream. But today I find no joy in the realization that I have been right all along.
And? Is that supposed to be a smoking gun or just FYI? Regardless, for those who may interpret it to be the former, I will provide valuable insight to compliment that hot cup of coffee and jelly donut many of you plus size Hubbers are enjoying this morning. An individual worth 100 million dollars should certainly be more aware of how rich people think and what rich people do than Joe Blow who works at the local Deli and brings home a whopping $19,000 a year! Of course a rich person would be more of an authority concerning the character and machinations of wealthy people.
I would trust Jodie Foster to give a more accurate picture than a mere peasant who voted for Donald Trump, and who is now waiting with baited breath for that $15 minimum wage. Gee, with that kind of cash a person could mortgage a house, buy a car, and go to Las Vegas at least once every 30 years. Yeah! Donny is gonna make it real great for all you guys. Just wait and see.
- ahorsebackposted 7 years ago0
The truth and danger of the liberals fight and infighting , is that they actually have -O- for a future political mission statement . They never have ,1960-s I remember my youth and my naiveté in listening , believing , wanting and dreaming of a better nation , but liberals are mostly about discourse alone and that is all they are about . They cannot ever agree on one group thing or thought , in all of my independent and political experience I have deduced that the quintessential new -liberal has a mind of milk-toast , a dream scape of entitlement , a vision of extreme near-sightedness .
Fight on people - the battle itself is all there is .In South Korea they have been protesting for 2 weeks against President Park... long corruption story... won't get into it... but guess when they protest. According to some Korean students, they protest on the weekends. Can you guess why? ... BECAUSE THEY HAVE JOBS!
Election Fraud in Detroit Looks 'Organized, and Government Involved'...in favor of Hillary the war-hawk...oh, but the Russians did it.
I swear the entities in Washington DC and Detroit are taking their orders from the son-of-satan himself, George Soros.
* https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/12/14 … -involved/
That deceitful bunch really thought they were going to be able to pull off this election fraud. Thanks to Jill Stein for wanting the recounts, who we all know now as nothing but another communist operative for the same evil rulers.
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