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My friend, your post makes the claim that President Trump’s reputation as a racist is "…totally false."
I think this would be a good time to jump in with documented evidence found in the public record, evidence that proves Mr. Trump has earned his reputation for being a racist!
During his tenure as president of Trump Management Corporation, Donald Trump was sued, not once but twice, by the U.S. Department of Justice. The first time, the Justice Department produced evidence of racial discrimination against blacks who tried to rent apartment units he owned in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island, NY. The Department of Justice proved that his company quoted different lease terms and conditions to black rental candidates than it did to white candidates and, further, that the company lied to black applicants about available vacancies.
Mr. Trump settled out of court and he stipulated to the court he would stop discriminating against blacks, Puerto Ricans and other minorities. Never the less, just three years later, the Justice Department sued Trump Management Corporation again for failing to keep his sworn pledge to the court. The facts are as unavoidable as they are unsavory. Mr. Trump has a long and infamous history as a redlining Realtor {1}
This is NOT fiction or personal opinion. These are undisputed details from the public record that reveal Donald Trump is a lifelong racist. Perhaps the conservative media on which you rely did not inform you about the $200,000 fine paid by the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino because of Trump’s policy to discriminate against African-American card dealers. A state appeals court not only upheld the fine but also stated in its final decision, “In our view, the transcript fairly reeks of Trump Plaza's guilt.”{2}
There are even more facts in the public domain regarding Mr. Trump’s legacy as a racist.
A former Trump Castle employee relates his own first-hand experience with Mr. Trump’s racism. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Kip Brown recalled in an interview with The New Yorker. "I remember it: they put us all in the back.” {3}
Occasionally, we may hear a random claim that some blacks are lazy, but, a racist will insist, irrationally to be sure, that ALL blacks are lazy! Mr. Trump has proven himself to be a bona fide racist and, yet, this is something you and his other supporters continue to deny.
He once had this to say about the black financial executive at his Trump Plaza Casino: “And isn't it funny. I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control.” [Ed: Bold font added for educational purposes.] {4}
Need more proof? Read the story under this headline in the New York Daily News: “TRUMP HIT WITH RACE SUIT BLACKS: DON DEALT US OUT OF CASINO JOBS.” {5}
Now we all know that Donald Trump was graduated from an elite New York Military academy, nearly lost the empire he inherited from his father, and is now President of the United States. Yet, his supporters believe the lie that in all of those years he never heard the name of David Duke, former Grand Wizard of the Klu Klux Klan!
When asked by CNN if he would disavow the support of David Duke and the KKK, Mr. Trump actually said, "Honestly, I don’t know David Duke. I don’t believe I’ve ever met him. I’m pretty sure I didn’t meet him. And I just don’t know anything about him."
Again, to be perfectly clear, he said, “Honestly, I don’t know David Duke." Yet, the public record shows that Mr. Trump knows a great deal about David Duke and his status as a white supremacist. As a matter of fact, Mr. Trump issued a public statement in 2000 saying, “the Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. (Pat) Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. (Lenora) Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep.” Interesting, isn’t it? In 2016, Mr. Trump claimed he didn’t know anything about David Duke and the KKK! {6}
There is more but I should stop here. The bottom line: Mr. Trump, despite the irrational and unsupportable denials in your post, is responsible for his racist baggage. These facts are all found in the public record and they stand unchallenged to this day. You are invited to respond with documented evidence that proves these events did not happen or are untrue. I think we would all like to see your sources too.
{1} http://www.salon.com/2011/04/28/donald_ … tion_suit/
{2} http://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/10/19/ … 719467200/
{3} http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/ … antic-city
{4} http://articles.philly.com/1991-05-10/n … nald-trump
{5} http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/mon … e-1.726389
{6} http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli … /81101906/Thanks so much for your comments.
I posted facts showing how President Trump’s reputation as a racist is the result of his own actions and statements. Since you made the claim that this reputation is "totally false," I expected you had more than your own personal political bias to support your claim.
Instead, your remarks ignore the uncomfortable reality of President Trump’s history and totally dismiss all of the fully documented events from his past without a comment.
Obviously, unanswered questions are not reliable, verifiable facts and they certainly do not prove these events did not happen or are untrue. These events did happen. They are true and they debunk the claim that President Trump’s reputation as a racist is "totally false."
Hi there, Wilderness! Nice to see you join in this strand.
Wow! I posted solid facts and I received two responses containing nothing but irrelevant rationalizations! I pointed to documents compiled by the US Department of Justice that includes, in part, sworn affidavits from Trump employees, rental agents, and building managers describing how Donald Trump consciously and systematically engaged in the real estate practice known as racial redlining. There are also details among the evidence describing how building supervisors were instructed to write a secret code on the rental applications submitted by blacks and other "undesirables."
So I should be careful? This is not a criminal court nor am I trying a capital offense where the evidence must prove guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt. This is a political forum in which the evidence should be factual, reliable, verifiable, and logically relevant. And, on this last point, Wilderness, your post doesn't even come close!
Let me begin with the sentences following the warning:
"Being sued does not prove racism, and neither does settling out of court. Not even being sued a second time does."
Even with my deep respect for our long friendship and for your prolific contributions to this platform, I must admit I found this opening salvo totally inane. Obviously lawsuits don't prove racism. It's the underlying evidence from those lawsuits that contributed to Donald Trump's reputation as a racist. Instead of responding to the actual facts in the lawsuits, you ignore them as if they don't even exist.
Critical thinking demands that the mind recognizes relevant factual data as being more important than political ideology and unsupported personal conclusions. Well developed critical thinking skills would not have led to this additional false statement: "the suits were apparently against a business enterprise, not Donald Trump, which means that someone in that business allegedly performed racist acts."
Here we see a personal opinion that isn't supported by any facts combining with ignorance of the law to produce two false assertions. First, the lawsuits brought against Donald Trump allege violations of the Fair Housing Act which requires that employers be responsible for the actions of their subordinates. Secondly, the DOJ lawsuits included explicit reference to Donald Trump, the president of Trump Management.
By the way, as a sidebar, there is also evidence that Mr. Trump lied about his responsibility for rentals. During a sworn deposition, he was asked: “Do you ever have anything to do with rental decisions in individual cases?” Mr. Trump replied, under oath, “No, I really don’t." However, during an interview with a New York State investigator about his real estate broker license application, Mr. Trump contradicted his prior sworn testimony by asserting that he supervised and controlled the renting of ALL apartments owned by the Trump organization. {1}
Then we have this statement,"Donald Trump may or may not have racist tendencies, but none of the 'evidence' you provide shows it."
Forgive me if I missed something, but your remarks do not address any of the actual (and factual) evidence from the public record. Instead, they try to advance a strawman argument that "Being sued does not prove racism. " It seems your post categorically ignores the substantial volume of evidence produced by the US Department of Justice. It dismisses evidence that led to a sizable fine for discriminatory policies that Donald Trump actually or tacitly approved. It rejects without justification the personal experiences published by a number of Trump associates.
I can only conclude that you don't seem to know enough about the actual evidence to judge its validity. I think you should analyze the underlying evidence from Trump's public life, in addition to all of the examples listed in my post, before you tell me what the facts do or do not prove. And, let's not forget Pres. Trump said publicly that the Neo-Nazis, Klansmen and white supremacists marching and chanting racist and anti-semetic slogans in Charlottesville included “very fine people."
I found it interesting to see you use benign general terms when referring to Trump's dislike for blacks:
"The closest you come is the (alleged)
comment that he dislikes blacks counting his
money given without context, time, location or
listener."
... while at the same time you were conveniently ignoring his blatantly racist comments:
"I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s
probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in
Blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not something
they can control." {2}
A very convenient omission!
Well, my friend (and I say that sincerely), until the unsupported rationalizations are replaced with some relevant facts that actually mitigate the numerous racist events in Pres. Trump's past, I will stand by my original claim that the documented evidence found in the public record confirms that Mr. Trump has created his racist baggage with his own words and deeds.
{1} http://www.thedailybeast.com/doj-trumps … ked-blacks
{2} https://www.afro.com/trump-words-laziness-trait-blacks/Are we to believe that you have medical or academic credentials that qualify you to diagnose insanity?
Just 13 months ago, 1000 potential US voters were asked "Do you think Donald Trump is a racist?" Forty-four percent (44%) replied YES! In fact, seven percent (7%) also said that they were Trump supporters. {1}
Your post reveals 1) a need to learn a lot more about President Trump's unsavory reputation as a racist and 2) an acute ignorance about mental health.
{1} http://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/ … ables.pdf, Table Q27, Page 160.
Hello, Jack.
When I first read your claim that Senator McCain upset the whole process of repealing the ACA "single handedly," I could not believe my eyes. I began to wonder if you have sources that feed these lies to you or you just make them up as you go along. Senator McCain was always in the company of other widely respected Republicans and he NEVER acted single handedly!
On July 25, 2017, the following Republican senators voted against the repeal of the ACA:
Susan Collins, Me.
Lisa Murkowski, Alaska
Dean Heller, Nev.
Bob Corker, Tenn.
Tom Cotton, Ark.
Lindsey Graham, S.C.
Mike Lee, Utah
Jerry Moran, Kan.
Rand Paul, Ky.
{1}
On July 26, 2017, the following Republican senators voted against the repeal of the ACA:
Lamar Alexander, Tenn.
Shelley Moore Capito, W.Va.
Susan Collins, Maine
Dean Heller, Nev.
John McCain, Ariz.
Lisa Murkowski, Alaska and
Rob Portman, Ohio. {2}
On July 28, 2017, the following Republican senators voted against the "skinny repeal" of the ACA:
Lisa Murkowski, Alaska
Susan Collins, Maine and
John McCain, Ariz.. {3}
And finally, on September 25, 2017, the following Republican senators announced publicly that they would either vote against the Graham-Cassidy bill or could not accept it as written:
Susan Collins, Maine
John McCain, Ariz.
Rand Paul, Ky
Ted Cruz, Texas.
{4}
So, Jack, I think you need to provide a few factual links that show us how the evil Senator McCain acted single-handedly.
{1} https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 … acare.html
{2}
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07 … epeal.html
{3} http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sen … 2c4a8bf981
{4} http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/politics/ … index.htmlGreetings, Jack. It is good to have a chance to chat with you once again.
You seem to be ignoring that you posted a false statement in this forum. You claimed that Senator McCain "single handedly, upset the whole process" of repealing Obamacare. Following examples of verifiable evidence that John McCain never acted single-handedly, your next post ignores your failure to provide factual information to demonstrate how Senator McCain acted single-handedly, meaning all alone.
In fact, the opening sentence of your last post is another false statement: "He was the critical vote that allowed the repeal and replace bill to die in the Senate." How ironic, after making two false statements, you then call Senator McCain a "liar," also without providing any supporting evidence. Perhaps you've never heard the adage "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof" or perhaps you just choose to ignore it.
In every one of the most recent repeal failures, Senator McCain's vote was only one vote among many. Any rationale that attempts to make him singularly responsible is delusional. Similar to the GOP's failure to repeal Obamacare, your posts have failed to provide any facts that support the false claims that he was responsible "single-handedly" or that his vote was more critical than all the other critical Republican votes opposed to repeal.
Finally, it is interesting to note how the justification for calling Senator McCain a "liar" is a claim that you knew in advance what he was going to do. "He knew all along he was going to vote it down... that is why I say he is a lliar." You base your belief that he is a liar on knowledge you did not have. One form of irrational thinking, my friend, is believing something is true even when you can't prove it is true!
I encourage everyone to test their opinions against facts that exist in the real world. Too often there is a chasm between what we know and what we think we know. Unless you can add facts to support your claims, we will just have to conclude they are falsehoods spawned by an overzealous political imagination.
I sincerely hope that today and the coming weekend are especially pleasant.
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