Good news, UN condemns death penilty

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   Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago

   Worst thing you can do to a human being is to kill them. Especially death to homosexual love.
   
   Most US Muslims and Christains approve of homosexuals. Except when it comes to voting againist the condemning the death penilty. Along with 11 third world countries except for Japon. Another case where America is not run by a democracy.

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      wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      This I've got to see!  Link, please, to (more than one) poll indicating a majority of Muslims and Christians approve of homosexuality? 
      
      But even if true what does that have to do with the death penalty or condemning it?

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         Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

         On June 26, 2015, the Supreme Court Case ruled it unconstitutional for states to ban same-sex marriages in the landmark case Obergefell v. Hodges. This meant that same-sex couples had the fundamental right to marriage in all 50 states.
         
         The independent surveys
         52% US muslim approve homosexuals more the US Anglicans. US Catholics appove by 70%.

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            wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            That's your link showing most Muslims and most Christians support homosexuality?  A comment on the constitutionality of same sex marriages and figures from nowhere about a tiny, specific portion of Muslims and a small, specific portion of Christians?

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               Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

               Most Christain approve of homosexuals. Only most mormons, Evangelism and Jehovah's witness disapprove. Check wiki.
               
               One was the independent for Muslims
               
               The other Conducted by the Pew Research Center, the survey of 1,001 American Muslims depicts a community in tumult, with the vast majority disapproving of President Donald Trump and worrying about the direction of the country. Even so, many remain hopeful about their future in the United States, the survey found, despite persistent anxiety about Islamic extremism and religious discrimination.
               
               
               Attitudes toward homosexuality
               
               But the study's most significant findings may be religious and social, not political.
               
               In 2007, just 27% of American Muslims said society should approve of homosexuality. This year, more than half (52%) said the same, a leap that surprised even scholars who study Islam in America. Likewise, 10 years ago, 57% of American Muslims said there is more than one way to interpret Islamic teachings. In 2017, 64% agreed.
               
               American Muslims were also slightly more likely to identify as politically liberal (30% now vs. 24% in 2007). Nearly two-thirds identify as Democrats and a similar number believe in a bigger government that provides a host of services.
               
               Asked about the essentials of the faith, an overwhelming percentage of Muslims, like Christians, said believing in God was most important. But issues like working for social justice (69%) and protecting the environment (62%) also scored high in the list of essentials for American Muslims.
               
               There's some debate among scholars about whether American Muslims' increasing liberalism on issues like homosexuality is the result of recent immigrants' assimilation to mainstream American values or the rise of native-born millennials, who, like their non-Muslim peers, are more tolerant of the LGBT community.
               
               But while millennial Muslims are more likely than foreign-born Muslims to say homosexuality should be accepted (60% vs. 49%), both groups saw an increase of more than 20 percentage points in the last decade, Pew found.
               
               
               After a Muslim-American shot and killed 49 people at a gay nightclub in Orlando last year, American Muslims were forced to come to terms with gays and lesbians in their mosques and families, prompting conversations about homosexuality and Islamic teachings, said Zareena Grewal, who studies the American Muslim experience at Yale University.
               
               There is almost as many perdominate Muslim countries as Christains that carry out illegal homosexual laws.

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                  wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  "Most Christain approve of homosexuals."
                  
                  I know - you already said that.  Then declined to produce anything to support the statement. 
                  
                  And you already said that a tiny subset of all Muslims approve, but the original statement was simply "Muslims", not just American Muslims or even millenial Muslims.  So still haven't supported that one, either.
                  
                  But what is an "illegal homosexual law"?  One that offends homosexuals but it legal in that country?  No, you did say "illegal", so that won't work.  What is an "illegal homosexual law"?

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                     Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                     If you dont except my stats what can I do? It states on my post Pew research centre survey states 52% US Muslim approve homosexual or LGBT. Pew had Christians survey at 54%. Also simular on Wiki and Independent news.
                     
                     Just using common sense if the supreme court approves samesex marriage in all of 50 states. Why or Should they turn 360 and now say death to gays.. Non believers would be a higher exceptence level for LGBT. Non believers is the fastest group growing, even faster than Muslims.
                     
                     Illegal Homosexual laws has reduce from 82 countries down to 74 countries. Why should US decline and be left behind with the other third world countries bad attitude towards death to LGBT.
                     
                     Some times, I wonder if this is really the 21st century.

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                        wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                        Just using common sense; there is far more false information on the web than truth.  And while a link would be nice, your later claims have nothing to do with the first ones.
                        
                        The SCOTUS isn't supposed to "approve" anything.  It is supposed to rule according to law, and that is far, far different than people approving anything.
                        
                        What is an "illegal homosexual law"?  I asked before but all you're replying with is that 74 countries have them, presumably including the US.  What is an "illegal law"?

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                           Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                           Homosexual acts under the law are illegal to various degree from country to country amounting to 74 countries.
                           
                           US has no illegal act against LGBT or homosexual, yet plenity of homophobics.
                           For US to not vote for condemning death penalties towards LGBT group is hypocrisy.

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                              wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                              Ah.  It's not an illegal law then, which I mistook the statement to indicate.  Just an illegal act under a law.
                              
                              But I think you'll find plenty of laws against sodomy in the US, although they aren't often enforced.

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                                 Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                                 About 50 percent of Christains think Sodom and Gomorrah were husband and wife.
                                 
                                 Sodomy ranges from sex with animals to straight blow jobs. Let face it,  they against fornacation like sex out of wedlock, abortion, homosexuals, and most of all adultery. When most of us go to hell, it will be just another hot night club. They will break their own laws greater than any other group. What a hell on earth, that must be. When it comes to war and sex they talk like idiots.

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   psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

   The context here is:
   
   Today these countries voted against a UN resolution condemning the use of the death penalty for gay sex: Botswana, Burundi, Egypt, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, China, India, Iraq, Japan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the US and the United Arab Emirates.
   
   So I sincerely ask--who is proud of that position?  Not whatever you might think about consensual gay sex between adults, but whether you have a problem opposing the death penalty for it.

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      Castlepalomaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      God must of made a serious mistake making 10% of the world population gay. Then tortured them by giving them free will. Too bad so many religious people took it upon themselves to judge gays before God did. Could of been another wrong book tranlation anyways.

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