Out of all the beliefs in the world, only you are right!

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   How can a logical human arrive at the conclusion that out of the thousands of different bible beliefs, only their's is right.
   Is that not a description of Megalomania?

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      Ghost32posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      One possibility, Earnest:  Each of us being right...for us.  Each creating his/her/its own Heaven/Hell/Whatever. 
      
      Ah, but thee referreth to the "Thou must believeth as I believeth or burneth in Helleth!"  Different  picture altogether, that. 
      
      Actually, the flaw in your question is the inclusion of the word "logical".  Have you ever known humans to be logical?

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hey you are right buddy, no I guess we are not generally logical, but we can burst through sometimes! I do it on Wednesdays between 2 and 3pm!

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            Carmen Borthwickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            HaHaHa... what a coincidence, me too! Tomorrow it will be daylight savings time though... that should screw up our timing.

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               earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Is it possible to move our "logic time" forward an hour?

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                  Carmen Borthwickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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      SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Where you are mistaken is the fact that it isn't people who are right. It is not my way or the highway. It is God's way.
      
      Now, if you don't want to believe, that's fine. The insults you toss around are uncalled for. It reminds me of monkeys who throw dung. Maybe you are one who evolved from them?

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Slimy.
         Believing you have the only truth has a name. I named it!

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      Marc Salyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Are you singling out Bible beliefs alone or any and all beliefs?

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Any beliefs that insist they are THE ONLY TRUTH, if you did not catch it. Does not have to be a religious belief either.

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Bible beliefs.
         Other beliefs may have real support.
         Eg I believe the 12 valve four cylinder motor in my ute is just that. Someone may say it is a six cylinder, but you can count em. The workshop manual supports that and so does the manufacturer, and others who know the model would agree that it is a four cylinder.

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            Marc Salyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed and of course math doesn't leave much room for debate. But there are philosophical differences, political opinions, psychological debates, and scientists argue issues all of the time. The world of people is full of people's beliefs and each person may vary his or her belief with tedious little distinctions or with major differences. What makes any of them right or wrong?

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            Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            So let me get it straight my friend. Are you against THE TRUTH only when it is bible belief? Quran does not count? Global Warming does not count? Slap the kids or not do not count? Did I understand you correctly?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's easy when a person has met the Author of the Book.

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      Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      One's relationship with God is completely personal, so it might seem that people act like "only their's is right".
      
      However, where the group-think comes in, i'm not quite sure.

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      cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I completely agree with you.These people who think they know the REAL truth are diminishing MY credibility cause I am the only one who knows the REAL truth.Just last night God spoke to me very clearly,She said"Tomorrow,Italian sausage and meatballs",now thats a real truth if i ever heard one.
      
      Oh by the way,is Megalomania anywhere near Romania cause I didn't like it there.the women braid there arm pits?
      
      just a little joke bro...peace...

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Are you sure they were Italian? I love Italian...

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      Bibowenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent. All of the other beliefs about the Bible are wrong and only yours is right...

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         Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Beliefs in the bible are all wrong.   The bible is correct!!!

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            Marc Salyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            There are no correct beliefs in the Bible? I don't get it. I believe the Bible is God's Word. If that is wrong can the Bible be correct? What did you actually mean?

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               Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  The written word of the bible is true.
                  Our beliefs that we think and try to put in the bible are flawed.

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                  Marc Salyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I was hoping that your comments would clear things up for me but I'm just as confused as before. I believe that many doctrines are errant in many ways and it is terrible when people "put them in the Bible" but what about the obvious teachings.
                  
                  ALL beliefs derived from the Word of God to man of all people are flawed? There are some pretty basic truths that I would include in "beliefs" that are hard to corrupt:
                  Faith in Yeshua is the only way to the father.
                  God created in six days and rested on the seventh.
                  Yeshua is coming back.
                  Weather one believes the Bible to be true or not, these are some basic teachings of the Word and belief in them is true to the Word.

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                     Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I don't know about streighting any thing out but what I think is that if God created everything in seven days he musta skiped a few million years between the first day and the second day and so on. Yea faith in Jesus that he died for our sins and rose again sounds good and TRUE to me.
                        The first description of Jesus that there ever wuz is that Jesus IS the word of GOD.  The bible wasn't courupped on the first sentence waz it. Jesus is the word of God.   Ya gotta believe in the word of God.  That is the only way to reach God is through his word (Jesus)  If ya know Jesus's word he will probably let ya into his fathers house.
                         The word died on the cross making another word be herd
                       The old covenant of the law died.  The new covenant of redemption rose up off tha cross.....   If ya want it;... here it is, come and get it ....but ya betta hurry cause it's going fast.  Just kiddin singin a song.   It is almost that easy sept ya gotta mean it in your heart. teasin don't count.

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                        Marc Salyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        You seem to agree that it doesn't matter that you or I or anyone believes what is written in the Bible. The Bible is correct. But everyone's beliefs in the Bible are all wrong? What does that mean?

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That's a good one. I love it

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            earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Except that it is nonsensical it makes a lot of sense!

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      AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You are correct.

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      sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      the process of elimination is actually very simple. First, one needs to find a church that follows the 10 commandments entirely. there is one true church and she is easy to find.

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   No, this is a description of public education

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      Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm a product of public education

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Your parents managed to balance it out, huge kudos to them

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      rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      hmmm, I think more indoctrination from parental traditions than public education. some parents control their children's beliefs starting at an early age.

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         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         True dat also. My point is parents cover the whole spectrum - some are thinking, some are controlling. But public education universally tends towards uniformity...

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            rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I guess it depends exactly what you're referring to.
            my sons lucked out on attending some decent schools with some excellent teachers, taught them how to think and question.

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               Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I bet people here on HP are not a typical bunch, at least those who stay here. They tend to be more thinking for themselves than average population. This might explain why we have such a high percentage of people whose teachers were really good, or who pick good teachers for their kids.

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   habeeposted 14 years ago

   Hi, guys! Misha, LOVE the new pic!

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   Mishaposted 14 years ago

   Hi Habee, love you grandson pic too

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   habeeposted 14 years ago

   BTW, Mish - don't be too hard on us public educators. We can only teach what they let us teach. And it gets worse every year. Glad I retired when I did!

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, no way I am being hard on teachers, they are between rock and stone!

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         rmcrayneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         One of the most underrated, unappreciated jobs ever.  Thanks for your service habee.

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            earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Teachers are my heroes. I know so many dedicated teachers.

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               Sexy jontyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Ya .... same thing goes with me .... I am agree with you ....

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                  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  It warms my heart to hear that! Thank you for supporting the true hearts of so many good people. All the ones I know personally are passionate about the children and their needs.

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         Crazdwriterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Even us Preschool teachers, Misha? lol and love the new pic

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   I am sorry Misha, I always complain about your avatar. You look exhausted!How about the nice close up again?
   Hi Habee. I do like yours though!

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL I can't please everybody at once

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         quietnessandtrustposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Misha looks like he never turns down a good drink

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   habeeposted 14 years ago

   Thanks, Earnesto!
   
   You're right, Misha. It's a tough job.

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      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL This has to be a granddaughter. She's cute

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   habeeposted 14 years ago

   Just can't decide on my new avatar...we have so many cute Halloween pics of the grands!
   
   Earnest, do you guys trick or treat?

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      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Some of us with little ones do, although it is not a local tradition.
      I am planning a full Halloween for my three youngest GK's for next year.

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      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Habee the little one is so cute! I really like both of them.... what use am I?

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   habeeposted 14 years ago

   Back to the topic - I think one problem is that the Bible was written by men - not God.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    I think one problem is that some parents want their children to believe as they do and won't accept anything different.

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well it is always really nice speaking with you Colebabie, as you can obviously keep your own councel.

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks earnest, it is always nice talking with you as well

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       Carmen Borthwickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well, colour me purple, I wanted my kids to decide on their own what to believe or not believe. Parents that 'urge' their children to only accept what they believe are most likely asking for trouble.

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    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Right, Cole. And another problem is that some religious sects get too obsessed with one verse. Like snake handlers, for example. We have those around here. Scary.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    It's not only about religion. Look at politics forums, look at parenting forums, just look around. The prevailing motto - my opinion is right, and it is THE ONLY RIGHT OPINION. Isn't that what all of us are taught in schools? "There is only one correct answer to this question children, please learn it by heart. All other answers are wrong."

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Well as far as schools I guess I was lucky then? I was always taught to express my opinion and be open to discussion at both home and school. I dunno what it is, but some people just can't stand the fact that they may not be right. That what they have dedicated their life to studying, living, learning, preaching etc. is either bull shit or just not the only "right" way.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You are really is an odd fruit Cole. Looking around, I can recall not more than a handful of guys and gals of your age who are about as mature as you.
       
       countrywomen, girly_girl, likely Luke... who else?

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You should meet my friends, they would amaze you!!!

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             Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Kind of a hard task a few thousand miles apart, unless you bring them up to Hubpages

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    habeeposted 14 years ago

    I honestly tried to teach my students to think, and since I taught writing and literature, there were few right/wrong answers. Much of it was interpretation. I've never thought much of filling a youth's head with facts and having them regurgitate it on a "test."

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I feel a personal understanding of what you mean by teaching children to think.
       I feel I had that opportunity in my life. Teachers are my heroes.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Lucky your students are
       
       I have to admit my teachers were good at that, too
       
       But it is really hard to do, especially under the pressure they felt in the USSR, and the pressure that you have in USA nowadays...

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    And a lot of people research ways to prove those who don't believe as they do wrong. Rather than using their time to make the world better and just saying "Ya know what?!?! If someone doesn't believe what I do, thats cool. I believe what I believe and as long as I'm happy and a good person, its ok."

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    habeeposted 14 years ago

    Yes, Misha. It got to the point where we spent more time on state-mandated rules and filling out forms and papers than we did teaching.

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Having a bad day SirDent?

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       SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Not at all. Just tired of the crap.

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Well, yeah, don;t envy you on this. Yet you chose yourself to associate yourself with Ernest's target. To be fair you did not know Ernest would come at the time, may be it's time to reconsider?

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             SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I fully expected Earnest to see it and reply to it. I stand by what I said also.

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah I was just told in another forum that I will be burning in hell. So I know what you mean.

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             Carmen Borthwickposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I've been told I would burn in hell since I was four and couldn't recite one of about twenty verses from the bible in Sunday school. The teacher always called me Carmen Poopwick instead of Borthwick... biatch. Refused to go back after that!

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                Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                
                Basically I was trying to tell SirDent that there is crap from both sides. People telling him his religion is bull, and people telling me that I'm going to hell because I don't follow a religion. Everyone should just relax.

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                   Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   With you? Any time

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                      Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Sure, with me. Everyone would be much happier if they relaxed with me for a day

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                         Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         May be I should fly to Florida. For a day

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             SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Would you rather not be wanred of what might happen?

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                Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Yeah we're done here.

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                   drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Some people....Only religions bring about so much controversy. Where judgements upon judgements mount up.

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                Hell N0posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                The only thing I would need to be "wanred" of Dent, is that you or any heller is entering the room about to preach your crap.  If I'm not in the mood to laugh I'd have to leave.  How's that latest hell hub comming?

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          gary777gposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You came to the wrong place to avoid crap. 
          
          If you want to walk in the grass where no dogs have been, you must go where no dogs go.
          
          Welcome to the dogpark.

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    drej2522posted 14 years ago

    or two..or three

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    Mishaposted 14 years ago

    Then I have to bring kids and wife with me, and it is not going to be THAT relaxing

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       rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       just take them to the beach. it was 87 degrees here today. 
       
       colebabie, where are you in fl?

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          Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          South, Broward/Palm Beach area

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             Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Ah, you are teasing me girls

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                rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                ah misha, the sun is always shining.

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                   Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I would go in a heartbeat. Wife's work, kids' school...

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                      rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      yes, just teasing.   playing around, it's only midnight.

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          drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          yeah...it would be a great time. bring the family, relax with Colebabie. It's the best of all worlds! hrmmm

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    I wish people could learn to do it on their own. But I understand its not that easy. And I am lucky.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Haha. It was beautiful today. I went to a football game No clouds in the sky. It would be relaxing, promise.

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    drej2522posted 14 years ago

    same here..sounds fun and very relaxing.

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    Kind of weird that people think no one should teach their own kids what they believe is true. So are you non-bible believers teaching your children about bible beliefs in a way that allows them to consider they might be true?
    Or does that only apply to ones who DO believe in the bible that should not teach their children what they believe?
    
    Of course parents are to teach littles what to believe and what is true. They need a basis to start from, if parents teach what they think is a lie, they end up with kids who have no stability at all. If they grow up and disagree with what the parents believe, at least they know (and openly say) their parents did their best and they loved them.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       No. Parents should teach that there are several approaches. And let them choose for themselves. Otherwise we get what we have.

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          drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Ah, that's actually not bad..There should be a world religions course in every household!

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Taking your child to church, or letting them know your own belief is fine. But if they make the decision to not follow your beliefs and you are not ok with that, nope not cool. My story is different, I wrote a hub about it. But growing up I went with my friends to church/temple. My parents were always ok with it. They would ask me questions about what I learned, how I liked it. They told me what they believed, I learned other ways through my friends, and then I made the decision for myself.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       *where was my bowing smiley?*

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    Not when they're very small - all they do when you give them a choice is ask which they should choose, what's the RIGHT choice. There's a reason littles try to please their parents, they need direction for a long time. Giving too many choices and no clear answers is mean, it would be nice if we didn't have to clarify our own beliefs to know what to teach them but that's a parent's job. It's an abdication of responsibility to not tell children what's true and what isn't and leaving it up to them to figure out before their brains are capable of doing so.

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       Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       But as far as religion is concerned, who is anyone to say what is "true"? Thats the whole point of this thread.

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          drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          agreed. Example here: Your father is Catholic, your mother is Muslim...which one is the "truth"...and don't cop out here on this one by injecting your personal beliefs here!

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       It's nice that different parents have different views on this. I disagree, and people like Colebabie is a good example why I disagree.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    But what religious influence do you have on a 3 year old?

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    Depends on what you mean by religious - intellectual or experiential? When a child feels spirit and love emanating from you, that's how you influence a three year old. Intellectual? For a child who believes, apparently FULLY believes, that a crocodile bit his leg and that's where he got that little microscopic scrape? None. (No, we don't have crocodiles around here!)

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       Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       But spirit and love doesn't have to relate to religion. Basically what I'm trying to say is that there can be some religious influence on a young child, but usually the influence that affects life decisions is a little later in life. And at that point, in my belief, it is up to the parent to be open and honest with their child.

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    according to your father, catholicism is true, according to your mother, islam is true. are you suggesting neither parent should teach anything?

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       drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I'm suggesting what was said eariler. To teach multiple religions and let the child decide.

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    Open and honest means telling their child what they believe to be true.
    As far as teaching little children, I've gotten the impression from remarks in the forums that anyone teaching their children anything about their religious beliefs (christian anyway) should be drawn and quartered for practicing child abuse. That's what I object to, parents teach what they believe. I'd rather a child be taught religion that he can leave as a child than be taught to be a criminal - something parents teach also.

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       Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Of course not. And if you read the posts prior they say that parents should teach what they believe but be open to their children learning about other beliefs. I am not against parents discussing their personal beliefs with their children, mine did it with me. But I am against parents who want their children to follow in their footsteps and would not accept them if they did not.

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    It must just be the attitudes toward christianity that i object to. I was raised an atheist, never allowed to accept anything without proof from anyone including my parents. Science disproved religion as far as my dad was concerned. BUT since he is a scientist, our home was full of the new discoveries that disproved what had been "known" the year before. All I got was that nothing is true, no one and nothing is to be trusted, life sucks and then you die. I was lucky, God showed me that life has a whole other dimension that I hadn't known about before. Teaching my own boys about love and all the biblical virtues was no hardship though I think I managed to teach each of them a completely different "religion" as I learned.

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    Scott.Lifeposted 14 years ago

    Was there a memo about the apocalypse I missed tonight whats with all the religious talk and doom and gloom. They're coming out of the woodwork.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    And that is your personal experience. Yes some have negative attitudes toward christianity as a whole. I see that your personal experience has maybe made you sensitive to those who oppose your religion. And like anything else that is important to someone you feel you must defend it when it is being attacked. I'm sure you know that you have great influence over your children. But if they decide to not follow the path that you have chosen, as a parent you love them and accept them, which I'm sure you will because you did not have a positive experience as a child.

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       TMinutposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I can't claim to really be a christian, I don't believe the things taught in churches usually. It's the whole "anyone who is a christian is a fool and delusional" that I object to. And saying that no one should teach their children what those other people don't believe in.

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    colebabie, YOUR posts aren't like that but some definitely are.
    
    scott, doom and gloom? You mean in the other threads perhaps. It must be getting late, suddenly your pic looks so much like my baby brother that I'm about to ask. But I've seen the pic before and haven't thought that so guess I'll say good night.

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       Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah there's like 8 threads running right now about religion....

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          drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          that's normal at this time of night...

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    I understand that. And I don't think it is right. But people can say what they want. The whole point of this thread was questioning how someone could think that they are right when there are so many beliefs in this world. Then your comments regarding parenting lead me to make the statement that parents shouldn't force their religion on their children. Sometimes there is a fine line between "forcing" and "teaching". And in my opinion, parents shouldn't cross it

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    Okay, teaching and forcing, that's all you mean, sure I agree with that. Besides, "forcing" a child to believe something is not only not going to work but seems to be more likely to make them choose the opposite, at least for a while!

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Nah, it's rather about indoctrinating or brainwashing, whichever word you prefer. Done with skill, those work.

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          drej2522posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I just want to brainwash Colebabie that I'm the one for her.

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             Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Hehe. Good luck! It won't be easy!

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       Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah its kinda a mix of what Misha said. Basically if you provide no other option you are "forcing" someone.

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          Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Kind of like saying omitting the truth is not lying, it's really the same thing.

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    drej2522posted 14 years ago

    so there's a chance. Yessss!
    
    and, apparently, I'm 14 now.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Huh?

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You are risking to become a virtual child molester
       
       Good night everybody

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    drej2522posted 14 years ago

    I'm just critiquing on how I am 'acting'.

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    Colebabieposted 14 years ago

    Oh ok. Gotcha. Yeah I don't like it when people put me down because of my age. Well off to get a little more use out of my costume
    Have a good night everyone

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    drej2522posted 14 years ago

    ha...misha..later man!

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    Sexy jontyposted 14 years ago

    yes ..... I think it's true .........

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    TMinutposted 14 years ago

    How can a logical human arrive at the conclusion that out of the thousands of different bible beliefs, only theirs is right?
    
    Do you think it would be logical for them to assume theirs is wrong? This is why so many people are out there spreading their beliefs, or trying to. They think they found out something of major importance and are making sure no one is left without the chance to know.

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       Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          And the truth is that it is later than anyone thinks.

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    goldenpathposted 14 years ago

    Our faith has always instructed it's membership that most all faiths contain bits, pieces and segments of truth for we all have much to learn from one another.  The test is using the spirit of discernment to choose for oneself whether it be true or untrue.  We must be open to new knowledge and ideas.  Of course the Holy Bible is not complete for it was not written beginning to end in it's current form.  It is a compilation of letters, addresses and records.  It would be folly to believe that the "complete" word is contained within that sacred work.  I am currently preparing a hub on this particular subject.
    
    This is why I, personally, thirst for knowledge of what others believe.  Together we may be perfected.  To claim absolute salvation because of one's affiliation to an organization or system of belief is prideful and will lead you on a damaging path.  Exactly like a compass.  You may wonder off course a little bit but at the end your destination has become way off track.  This mindset is, in essence, tunnel vision and prevents you from seeing beyond the walls you have set up for yourself. 
    
    Think of it this way.  If the Almighty didn't approve of variety we would not exist as individual human beings with our own mind, heart soul and most of all - liberty to choose...

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    Sorry I missed a question.   Jesus comin back;  haven't ya heard !!!   He already did come back.  About thirty years after the desciples said that he haddn't come back yet.
       About 60 years after he said that he was comin back soon. 
       What?   You missed tha party???   ME TOO.

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    If ya take every denominational belief system in the world and write them down.
        Study them all and cross off all of them that contradict each other; what ya got left that is not crossed off will have some truth to it.

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       Marc Salyerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Salvation by faith in Yeshua.
       
       What part of that would you say is true?

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          Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I was just saying that there are way too many interpretations of scripture. How many of those interpretations do you suppose are true to scripture.
             Yeshua (Jesus) is the only way to the father.
          He is the Way, He is Truth, He is the Light. Of all things that he is, it is first written that he is the WORD OF GOD,
          
              To say salvation is by faith in the  WORD OG GOD   would not sound as inclusive.  I am not so sure that YA HAVE TO BE a Christian to have faith in the Word of God??  I do not know ??

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             mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Have you never heard of the Hindu masters the Holy Vedas, Bhagwat Gita, Zaratushtra -Zend Avista?
             They existed much earlier than Jesus.

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                Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I have never read them but from what I have heard you talking about; I would have to say that I can't argue about much of what you have said.  If I did it would be concerning  degerees of depth and intensity of absolute-ness.  Seems to me that we are saying almost tha same thing looking at it from tha other side of the fince.

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    You'll notice that with megalomania
    the people all think they are brainier
    The sad truth is they
    washed their brains right away
    which leave them a little insaneia

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    Denno66posted 14 years ago

    Giggity giggity goo.

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    Don't you mean the 615 commandments?
    You will be pleased to see the ten commandments are replete with the usual psychotic threats!

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       aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well, no, not really.
       Here's the last one
       "Love one another, as I have lived you"
       That's the one that counts!

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    Denno66posted 14 years ago

    Schwing!

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Schwing?

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          Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Nice take on the church.

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    The Ropeposted 14 years ago

    Oh "lordy", Earnest, you just had to start this didn't you?

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       earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Where there's a need.......

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          The Ropeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I have truly come to appreciate you...you always bring a smile - and a challenge. 

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             earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             You're too kind! And if you are on the other side of the argument I really mean too kind!
             Have you seen my lovely religious hub?

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                The Ropeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                In the words of Mae West "Dahling, I've read 'em all"...  Been following you for some time.

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                   earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   That is nice to know, although I would like to say I am updating all the time, so some of the old ones are not as sloppy! Really I am chuffed, by the way MAe West cracked me up! She was one funny truck driver! I mean lady.

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