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dentist83posted 14 years ago
The Journalist who threw the 2 shoes to Bush. Do you approve his action. Tell Why.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, just like I don't approve of the congress man yelling 'liar' at Obama. It doesn't matter how much you like or dislike the president, he's still the commander in chief. Treat him with respect or get the hell out.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Get the hell out of where? The incident took place in Iraq.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Congress meets in Iraq? News to me.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ??? Come again?
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  F. Kenneth Taylorposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I approve of the journalist's action, Bush deserved to get hit, I'm just mad the guy missed. Pr0metheus, it doesn't matter if Bush was President/'Commander-In-Chief', that doesn't automatically grant him 'respect'. Respect is EARNED - not given simply because of a title someone holds. Bush did nothing respectable in 8yrs but be relieved of duty as President of the United States
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with you, by that I mean I agree that Joe Wilson did the right thing by calling Obama a liar! He deserves no respect simply because he is the President!
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  skylinerj34posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sorry! I don't care who you are. If you're a criminal, you're a criminal. I'm just tired of the double standard in the way treat the poor or average Joe criminal and the rich or "prestigious" one.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think it's funny how the secret service got no coverage for failing. Bush would have been screwed if those shoe's had bombs in them.
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  darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'd assume that scanning and sniffing procedures were in place. It's hard to detect a whiff of an impending throw though.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol agreed
  
  Don't you think they should have reacted in between the first and second shoe?
  
  Remember, they have missed shoe bombs going onto airplanes. This is government workers we are talking about.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How would you feel if they did it to President Obama?
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If Obama invaded my country for made-up reasons, destroyed everything and called it a victory because now I could live a better life I would throw my shoe at him.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats not what I asked.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Because your question takes for granted that the policies of Bush and Obama are comparable. I believe Bush's actions in this situation were wrong, and I believe that Obama's in this situation are not wrong. So given Obama's current actions, I would feel it unjustified to throw a shoe at him. In Bush's situation, while I would not personally do it or recommend it, I can sympathize more with the man who threw it than with the person it was thrown at.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What if he liberated your people from a ruthless, brutal dictator and gave you your first ever opportunity for real democracy?
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What if he killed your family and friends in the process?
  
  When are people going to learn that the USA is NOT THE WORLD POLICE. We did not invade Iraq for the sake of Iraqis, we did it for UNITED STATES INTERESTS.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So what? That doesn't mitigate the benefits that came to the Iraqis as a result.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What benefits? Democracy? What does democracy matter when your friends and family are dead? It's easy to talk about life, death and war from your comfy computer chair.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, you're right. Why should I give a hoot that 40 million people are longer at the whim of a vicious dictator? Especially since I'm so "comfortable"
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And where is all this compassion for Africans in Sudan, Zimbabwe, Congo, etc?
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  Valerie Fposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're assuming we don't give a hoot.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah. The Sudan, Zimbabwe, and Congo never attacked us. And you're not sticking to your own argument. Why should we be the world police?
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Neither did Iraq. THAT'S my argument.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I bet if Obama decided to send troops to those places you would think it a noble cause!
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  " . . . a three-part examination of a newly-released document captured in Iraq, Robison offers further evidence that in 1999 the Taliban welcomed "Islamic relations with Iraq" to mediate among the Taliban, the Northern Alliance and Russia, and that the Taliban reciprocated with an invitation to Iraqi officials to visit Afghanistan."
  
  But the taliban is in Iraq - you know, those guys who claimed responsibility for running planes into the WTC?
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  Valerie Fposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are assuming that the people posting here aren't willing to put their own lives on the line for their freedom and the freedom of others.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  you are also assuming that none of us have served in combat situations.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Dictators count on thinking like that. Freedom requires a higher sort of human being.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And who are YOU to decide who is a "higher sort of human being??" You just prove the stereotype of Americans who think they are better than the rest of the world. I never said I have something against democracy; I have something against invading countries for false reasons.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is this coming from the guy who just spent 20 pages decreeing which conflicts are just and unjust? Hmmmm...
  
  Maybe it would be more palatable to speak of a 'lower' sort of human being, like the sort who place fear ahead of principle, even the noblest of principle.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't claim to know what is just and unjust; never did. I figure that WWII is generally accepted as just. Iraq is not. Keep changing the subject though.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sure you did. You declared the war in Iraq unjust and WWII just. Remember?
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you capable of responding to an argument or just cherry picking? ADD?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm responding to your own words. Don't blame me if they don't look so hot in quotes.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're responding to some words, not arguments. You have to change the subject because you don't have real ideas.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your argument is that the war is unjust!
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you can't stand behind ALL your words maybe you should choose them more carefully. You might end up with an overall stronger argument.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You don't seem to consider it very important. Just going by your own words.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Answer my question first.
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  fishskinfreak2008posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely not. He's essentially DEMANDING Bush put his foot in his mouth. Also, THIS IS EXTREMELY UNCIVILIZED
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No I do not approve, especially for a trained Journalist, no. Write the facts as you find them. Like the sign says in the Student Newspaper office at Auburn University; "if your mama says she loves you...check it out!" In Other words verify the sources, ask your questions and keep the personal emotions out of it.
  
  Jon
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  cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ooh tough question
  
  one side of me says 'hells yeah!' and the other side says 'no of course not no one should throw their shoe at an ex-President no matter how revolting'. i guess since it was probably a shoe thrown against America then, no.
  
  plus it was highly unprofessional of that so-called journalist.
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  Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No I don't approve. He missed. A little high and to the left.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ditto.
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  Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh you don't approve because you think the journalist should have hit him too?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yea, you know it.
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  LiamBeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, I was impressed with Bush's ducking skills. A skill he might have acquired as a baseball team manager/owner.
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  Lifes Jokeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ....Lmao of course...
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  T_Augustusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am in no way a fan of George Bush, or his Republican cohorts, but I am an American first. I do not approve his action because it was a blatant show of disrespect for our country and our president.
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  Jackson Riddleposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If it is worth going to jail for a year
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
I approve of anyone with good aim. I aim to stay away from dentists.
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Maybe you're right, but at least it were better than throwing a backpack.
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Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago
Did you see those shoes? They had no style whatsoever. I would have ducked too. No way would I have let those ugly shoes brush my person.
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Yeah me too. Funny how all Presidents are most artful at that.
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darksideposted 14 years ago
They should have given the guy a Nobel Peace Prize.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They 'should have' given the guy what they probably did give him after he was dragged out of there - a viscious beating.
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  darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Did he hit Bush with the shoes or did he miss?
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not sure, but I think Bush dodged them.
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  rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bush dodged him , he was quick.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He missed. Good thing for him that he did.
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  darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A vicious beating for a miss, what would he have got for a non-lethal shoe to the face?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hopefully, the beating plus 20 years. At least.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bush is the anti-christ.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now you're a believer?
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You believe everything you read marine?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And people here keep complaining about Obama being criticized...
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He is the second anti-christ.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ah...Jesus oops
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sure he got a few of those while he was spending the year or so in prison.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I sure hope so.
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  LiamBeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Funny you should say that. Muntadar al-Zaidi said that's exactly what happened to him.
  
  Throw a shoe and miss and get the s&^% beaten out of you. Hey, maybe they beat him for missing. Just a thought.
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Valerie Fposted 14 years ago
That the shoe-thrower, his family, and his neighborhood weren't all killed in reprisal is a testimony to the fact that we did something right in Iraq.

Imagine what would have happened to him if he'd directed such an insulting gesture to Saddam Hussein.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And all we needed to do was kill 655,000 people. We are so much better! Go USA!
  
  ps. Can you guess who sold chemical weapons to Saddam in the 80's to use against Iran?
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  C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ok....Best answer so far.
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emdiposted 14 years ago
It proves two personalities.

Shoe thrower - Not an expert thrower. Did not have skils to hit the target. Needs more training. Good luck next time.

Bush - Expert ducker. Focused and alert against imminent dangers. Has great future.
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Valerie Fposted 14 years ago
We also don't have our troops use civilian populations as human shields.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are trying to take the moral high ground where it simply is not there. If you argue that Iraq was in the United States' long-term interests, you might have something, but you are saying that we are morally better than them. Does 655,000 people mean anything? That's over 102,000 DOCUMENTED CIVILIAN DEATHS. Note that 3,500 died in 9/11. How can you possibly argue that we are morally better than "them"?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who is "them"?
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  An undefined generalization of Iraqis, differentiated only by the fact that they are not "us." (i.e. "we" don't use human shields)
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think the reference was to Iraqis but to terrorists. We were never out to make war against the Iraqi civilian population.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have perfected the art of taking a quote out of context to change the subject.
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  Valerie Fposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I can argue because our general rules in wartime are better. We're not the ones intentionally hiding among civilians. Do you think the insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan care about civilian deaths besides using them as an excuse to bash the US? If they did, they'd come out and fight like real men instead of deliberately hiding out where the battle is likely to rack up the most civilian casualties.
  
  How about those civilian casualties during WW2?
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree that hiding among civilians is immoral and it is not right that terrorist groups do it. Our soldiers were thrown into a ridiculous situation; they should not have been there. The war was unjustified, so the deaths are our fault. Who is worse, al-Qaeda for doing these horrible things, or us for being there and killing everyone when we should not be there?
  
  The British said the same thing -- "come out and fight like real men" -- to Americans in the revolutionary war. WWII doesn't have anything to do with it because it was a just cause.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your analogy is inaccurate. No one was hiding behind civilians in the American Revolution, nor behind women and children - or wearing burqas to escape fire.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Point taken. Dinner's ready, I'm out. My argument is just that we have no right to claim the moral high ground based on Iraq; it's just not accurate.
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You were there? Regardless of what you think about warfare, the first rule is to survive to fight another day. Are you saying our soldiers should stand still and throw rocks at an approching tank? There's a real man for ya!
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  By hiding behind groups of children? Shooting out from Mosques and hospitals and schools? That part of your first rule?
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As horrifying as it is. It is a rule of war. Not my rule. And of course hiding behind children is beyond punk action. It's just crazy to think somebody is gonna make it easy for you to kill them.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, that's cowardly terrorism.
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No What is cowardly is taken somebody's words and twisting them around and leaving important sentences out so that coward can reply to his own made up statement. somebody feel like raising their hand or paw?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  Valerie Fposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are acting as if the war in Afghanistan was completely unprovoked. I suppose you think we should have never gotten involved in WW2, and the attack on Pearl Harbor as well as an attempted invasion should have gone completely unanswered.
  
  I regret that the US was the first to use atomic weapons. I hope it won't happen again. But it's the US's business to protect US citizens first and foremost. It's not the US' fault if another country fails to do the same for their citizens.
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  egivposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We're talking about Iraq. The shoe-thrower was not from Afghanistan.
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  Valerie Fposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As for Iraq, the conflict there began after Saddam Hussein had spent 12 years thumbing his nose at the UN weapons inspectors. If he really had no WMD's- other than what he dumped on the Kurds- he made no effort to prove it.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How nice that we have YOU to tell us what is 'a just cause' and what is not. Since you don't find democracy all that important I guess you'd like to see an enlightened dictator control the world and do everyone's thinking for them.
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kirstenblogposted 14 years ago
Not sure if I approve or disapprove but I found it funny as heck! I guess I would say I would rather people angry at american policy throw their shoes at the pres. then commit an act of terrorism.
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Valerie Fposted 14 years ago
To some people, it makes no difference if we're talking about Bush or Obama. One American is just as bad as another.

Of course I don't approve of shoe-throwing, but it's easier and far safer to dodge shoes than RPG's.
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habeeposted 14 years ago
I don't approve of the show-throwing, but I don't think the perpetrator should have received harsh punishment. No harm, no foul.

Heck, I was just impressed with W's reflexes!

I've seen plenty of politicians I wanted to lob missiles at!
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Francis911posted 14 years ago
No.
We must respect one another.
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awareposted 14 years ago
no . attacks on my president are direct attempts to topple my nation in my view. like him or not i wont have it.on a side note did anyone see that a Saudi offered a million dollars for the shoe? how crazy is that.
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dentist83posted 14 years ago
Someone knows which were the last numbers of <new Iraqis orphans/ per hours> of Bush government during war? Don't you think those orphan deserve to throw at least a shoe to the face of the president bush?
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sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
You don't make sense and you don't have an arguement.
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Make Moneyposted 14 years ago
Well we finally agree on something sneak. How about that.
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rae1001posted 14 years ago
Yes, I approve. Bush deserved it.
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akeejahoposted 14 years ago
Well, since throwing a shoe is considered an insult, I have a whole box of old ones in the closet earmarked for Good Will, but now I wonder if a shoe bombing in Texas is in order.

Mr. Bush would you care to step out on the deck a moment?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You might end up worse off than the Iraqi guy did.
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akeejahoposted 14 years ago
True, perhaps just a shoe drop?
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tksenseiposted 14 years ago
How about just supporting and voting for candidates you agree with and organizing with like minded citizens to advocate for positions you feel are important?
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Go Writerposted 14 years ago
I thought journalists were supposed to be objective.

He's fired.
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Lisa HWposted 14 years ago
We're still talking about that pea-brain? His behavior was bizarre, offensive, and worthy of prosecution - no matter which President or leader of any other nation was involved. What an infantile and moronic way to "show disapproval".
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Shoe-throwing is a customary way of showing disapproval in Iraq though.
  
  Here in America, we use bullets.
  
  Who's worse?
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