Can a war be logical?

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   rhamsonposted 14 years ago

   War is the failure of politics and is exacerbated by greed.

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      BannedMarine3posted 14 years agoin reply to this

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         rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Depends how you take it.  If a war is fought for a political reason how can that be logical when there are two sides to the story based on a political dialog. (no resolution)  If it is fought for greed based on the failure of the political dialog then there is a question of logic based on the unanswered questions of the political debate.

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   prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

   war can never be logical
   
   killings cant be solved by another killings

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      BannedMarine3posted 14 years agoin reply to this

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         prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         thank you, I believe that life is precious and that if you instigate a war you are offering many lives...
         
         like for example the government sending troops to Afghanistan and IRAQ, why do they need to do it, how about those who are killed there, thousands already, is it in anyway different to the people who are killed at Ft. Hood Texas, dead is dead and human lives are important, so much so the people who are left behind to grieve, war causes damaged beyond repair, emotional and psychological problems..

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            cmlindblomposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            most of the service members goin over and dieing are dieing for what they love... for marines we just love war and going over there is what we all want too doo. iff we die it was just because our hobby is dangerous

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               rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I think that that is a very good answer for the person fighting the war.  Your training is to defeat the enemy not coddle or debate the ramifications.  But when dealing with foreign policy and diplomacy the political solution must be run to the end before hostilities take place.

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      BannedMarine3posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If there is a group of 10 extremist religious suicide bombers whose belief is human sacrifice by blowing themselves up along with Americans in dedication to their God, What would be your logical solution? Ignore them? The logical answer would be to eliminate them. Do you think their belief could be changed if they had overwhelming faith that Americans are evil?

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         rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Is the case cited based on no provocation and no past history?  Did both parties have something to have a beef about?  You have to ask this question because retaliation is a lot different than justice.

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         prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         if you kill them all, is the problem solved, are you sure there is no more killings again, or will it stop there or more retaliatory killings unending cycle of killings on both sides.

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            cmlindblomposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            As long as fighters are killing fighters then they are just doing there job. preventing civilian death is the goal

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               prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               how about their families and children being left behind

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                  cmlindblomposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  we all know exactly what we got our selves into.... we join the military during a time of war. what do you expect. i expected to get in on it. i may not believe in the reasoning but ill have a good time figuring it out. sounds very ignorant i know but hey i am who i am. a grunt marine

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                     rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     And that is why we pay you to do it.  The reasons are immaterial to that cause.  However if you apply that reasoning for waging war you will not get a whole lot of support from the civilized world.

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   cmlindblomposted 14 years ago

   war in invetitable because it always comes down to human nature. People are always striving to be the best and when you do so you are in a constant competition against people and you may not even know it. War yes is a kind of primative way of settling things but people have been doing it since the down of time. These days though most of the wars going on are power and religion based that other countries tangle in due to allies and "big brother" countries like the usa. People say  its not our war but if we dont clean up the worlds mess as the superpower who will....

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   Poppa Bluesposted 14 years ago

   Maybe not logical, but then humans don't live by logic alone, nor do any animals.

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      prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      HI there all, Hi POPPA

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   zampanoposted 14 years ago

   It can be biological

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      prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL< hmmmmm...

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      Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      

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   Madame Xposted 14 years ago

   War is a necessary evil, unfortunately. If someone invades your homeland and wants to rule over you what do you do? Sit there and take it? No, you fight back. Or live like some crawling worm, which is not an option.

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      zampanoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe we should leave war for politics, generals and big corporations.
      Afterall it's because of them that war is going on.

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         Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That sounds great - if they didn't drag us into it.

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   zampanoposted 14 years ago

   But they always do and their business prosper.
   And they do drag us into it.
   
   Tomorrow, the 11th is a holyday in France, Belgium and Canada.
   We celebrate the armistice that put an end to the 1st world war.
   40 000 000 dead.
   fourty million people died between 1914 and 1918.

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      ledefensetechposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Europeans did that to themselves.  Not to mention the fact that they screwed up the peace and a generation later we had to clean up the mess. 50-70 million dead in that one.  By the way there were 16 million dead in WW I, 21 million wounded.  That's how you get the 38 million causalities.

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         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         We? LOLOLOLOLOLO
         
         Sure - you sold sum guns.......
         
         
         LOLOLOL
         
         Rothschild anyone?
         
         They?
         
         Lets do it again..............

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      EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      2,738 (out of 10,944 total casualties) died between 5 AM, when the armistice was actually agreed upon and 11 AM when the date and time looked really cool.

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   Madame Xposted 14 years ago

   Yes, we celebrate it too. It's called Veterans Day in America

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      A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I wonder what it would be called if America hadn't got involved? "The day all of Europe started to speak German"

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         zampanoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Right !

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   War is the last resort not to be delayed or used as a quick solution. We have to be firm with the use of force and no waffling. We have some of the best most talented kids on this planet and if we ask them to fight we must do it without terms of engagement. It's their lives and they are so brave to make that sacrifice for us we have to give them a chance to successfully complete their mission, without political interference.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOLOLOL
      
      Yeah - right.
      
      No politics = no war.
      
      What planet are you from? Oh yeah - religiosity. Beat any drunk people up? Oh yeah. Religionist.
      
      Firm with the use of force? LOLOLOLOLOLOLO
      
      You my new hero.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Still haven't pulled your head out have you?

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            <snipped - no personal attacks>

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               sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Oh, you say it's stuck? well what ever you do don't fart you'll blow your brains out!

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         A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Still the most boring poster there is!
         
         Quick, say something else about Christians!

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Texans? Sure.................

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               A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Well, waiting,nothing? Look a bright shiny object!

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            Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Oh, try reading his new sock puppet - evolution guy

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               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               And whose sock puppet are you?

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               A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Gonna have to pass I can only be bored for a little while.

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Translation = short attentio.....

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                     Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     

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                        A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        And there's Ron, who can always be counted on to post a picture or utter "Oy" At least you entertain me occasionally!

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                           Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Thank you Bambi-Tex

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    rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

    someone once said, 'war is a drug'
    
    it's addicting
    and it makes money

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       Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Ah, there-in lies the crux . . .

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    C'mon peaches I'll be your Huckleberry!(I'm referring to you mark, you want some?)

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       Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah, we all wnat some!

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          sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Is it time again for the gay pride parade? I know you two will dress as yourselves.

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             Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             LOLOL
             You really are a big girl's blouse.....
             
             Really _ i am totally 100% impressed that u dun hit that drunk guy and all, but..
             
             Sheesh. What do you want? 3, 3 minute cyber rounds...........

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                sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                You two are funny boys but I have an appointment to git to! I already knew I was dealing with cowards! I know you would never say that crap to me personally but we'll say you two are "Badass" anyway! There, now go pick on some women and kids.

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                   Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Coward?
                   
                   Now I know I am online.
                   
                   Yup - Jeebus be dun prowd o ya callin me coward. See in I cain't take yo down online...............
                   
                   Tuff. 'spect.
                   
                   Oh yeah - yo tuff. Tuffer n jeebus tuf.

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                   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Gynocological?

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                      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      JUvenile Gynocological?
                      
                      Either way - he is tuff. FORD tuff.

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    poetlorraineposted 14 years ago

    a war can never be logical never

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       Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Take a logic course - then we'll talk

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

    
    
    You're darn tootin'

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       A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Didn't he play for Michigan?

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          Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yup, and he was tuff.

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    sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

    I'm back ladies!

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    Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

    yes and no.  it really depends on you ask to be honest.  however, i will refer back to an old saying that a wise man once told me, "in war there are no winners...only losers."  you can take that however you like, with a grain of salt, but thats my two cents.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 14 years ago

    War should be used as a treatment for longstanding unsolvable disputes. It is not a must. But when there is pre-motivated and ruthless suppression of its people by a ruler, the only way out is war.
    
    When Bengali civilians voted for Bangla National Party of late Mujibur Rahman, the Pakistan govt. suppressed the Bengalis by sending army, fully armed with tanks and machine guns. Millions were uprooted and sent into India, resulting in a huge burden on our economy. Half a million were killed by the army. Almost all countries showed sympathy for the Bengalis, but none acted. India, unable to bear the burdens, went to war and created Bangla Desh. This is a clear case of necessity for war.
    
    For some ailments, we can apply some ointments; for some, we should take pills; for some, we should get injection; for some, we need operation, which gives instant remedy from the ailments. War is like an operation.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 14 years ago

    US' war in Afganistan and Iraq may be regrettable for Americans; but it is fully justified. Every American should place themselves in Mr.Bush's place and imagine what they would have done when the twin towers were brought down and the perpetrators' trail was  established. It was Pakistan which came first on the screen. But later it was established that they crossed over to Afganistan and so, an enraged American President could do nothing more than declaring war.
    
    To all Americans: the attack on the twin towers was the first enemy attack on American soil.
    
    Iraq on its part, used every opportunity to attack Israel even if they kept quiet. So, to avoid and preempt the anti-Israeli initiative expected from Iraq, and to finish the unfinished task of his father in 1991, Jr.Bush may have gone into Iraq.

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