500 Fans, 48 hubs, 3 months

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   R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years ago

   Okay, I looked at the hubtivity to check what's going on here at hubpages when I saw that a particular hubber (<snipped>) just got 500 fans! Wow. (And I thought when will I get that many. )
   
   I clicked on her (I suppose she's a female.) link and checked out her hub Wonder Full Images. I was intrigued by the title, thought I'd get some substance, and then ^@^#(@(#! A page full of photos? And comments? Geesh. Guess what I did? >.<
   
   And then I tried looking at her other hubs, and other hubs, and more hubs by her...and ^&%@$##&!$)*

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      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      so why do you look at her/his hubs if you don't like them ?
      what if she has 500 fans ?
      Don't you have a life ??
      Really !!!

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         cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         hee hee Tantrum.

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            tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            hi cosette !!

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               cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               hey there! i should be writing but i have too many distractions today. haha you always make me chuckle. i luv your unabashedness (god i hope that's a word).

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                  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm very busy right know. I just pop in to c what's going on.
                  Nice 2 C U !
                  Not this RGgirl. ! She better stay away from me. I don't like this kind of people

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                  rmcrayneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I never worry if something like unabashedness is a word or not.  My 10th grade English teacher said one of the things she loved about my journal assignments was my unabashed and knowing use of a known word in a new form, not a word, but the meaning in my context obvious.  It kind of gave me 'permission' for all time.

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   LOT2DOposted 14 years ago

   Are you reporting something here?
   
   ( Report a Problem or Suggest a New Feature )

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      R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. I think it's a problem. All her hubs are mere photos! And she's still publishing more. Her hubs should have been flagged.
      
      Shouldn't I post here?

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   A lot of users seem to spam add people as fans so they get added in return. Have to admit I have been tempted a couple of times, simply because my low forum participation leaves me with little exposure to the Hubpages community!

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      Ms Chievousposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You've been here two years??

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   readytoescapeposted 14 years ago

   Lots of folks put up their art work for display, maybe she's a photographer. Pretty sure the smokin hot pic has something to do with it as well.

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   RedElfposted 14 years ago

   I have seen a number of hubs that rated quite highly and were nothing but photos. As well, if they have some hot pics, they will get lots of page views.
   As a writer, I am not overly impressed with those photo-only hubs unless the work is their own, and they are good pictures, LOL. I do love to see someone's great photos, though.
   ...and and as our friend pointed out, there are always those hubbers who will join lots of other fan clubs simply to get reciprocal fans.
   
   Hang in there and keep writing!

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   B.C. BOUTIQUEposted 14 years ago

   I feel the same way, I add photos that go with my writing, if has nothing to do with the writing, it is irrelevant and unnessary, but Im not here just to collect fans, Im here to write as an outlet, meet quality people, do my best work and share some knowledge..
   I need not post a sexy picture or photoshop myself or someone elses photo to draw attention either..Thats just page "hooking"..lol..if you ask me..

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   R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years ago

   Well the problem here is that ALL her hubs are ONLY photos...NO WORDS! Aren't they supposed to be flagged for being low in quality and "not written in English"? The "author" (if that is appropriate) has been running around hubpages for 3 months already...

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      Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      then flag them. As far as I know, flagging is up to each reader, and complaining in threads wont do anything. I personaly choose to worry about me. So what if someone else has 500 fans? or photohubs? does that really affect your abillity to write?

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         R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yes I did flag two of her hubs when I realized that all her hubs are merely photos, so I thought, if other people would know, and they feel the same way about photo hubs, then perhaps they would do the same thing. Apparently, as Nelle and queenbee pointed, hubbers should be more concerned about creating more hubs, and indeed, people are more concerned about it than looking at what other people has to offer, and rating or flagging them as they deem appropriate.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   So did you report them to the hubpages team? I think that is the appropriate thing to do. If it's okay with hubpages, then your time is better spent, working on your own hubs and not critizing another hubber my name. There has been infinite discussion about photo hubs in the past.

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      lynnechandlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have to agree. While I don't care for the pic hubs, it is rude to call them out by name here in the forums. Report if you feel the need, but my time is better spent creating new hubs and generating traffic to them not to the pic hubs.

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         R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I think so too (about my time better spent for writing new hubs). I just finished publishing one when I saw the hubber's name in the hubtivity, but I thought people should know about this, and I would want to get feedback on it.

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      Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      hey nellie, good answer.  as usual.

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      ditto.
      
      if Hubpages has a problem with it, they will deal with it. I see nothing objectionable about her hubs. Some of them are even interesting, like the ones about pen drives and watermelon art. if HubPages wanted to limit images, they would only allow hubbers to add a certain number of photo capsules, it seems to me.
      
      so she has 500 fans, so what? is she bothering you?!

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         R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It's not about hubpages wanting to limit images. It's about the fans and the photos. I'm not saying that I want fans or anything like that, or that I'm complaining why I have less fans than her, but I'm wondering why she has that many fans in a short period of time with all her hubs published as mere photos. I know the photos are nice (I've seen them.), but as queenbee said, I too thought that hubpages is supposed to be a writing community.

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      R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I posted this thread in the Report a Problem section, but somehow, it got transferred to the Hubber's Hangout. Perhaps the Hubpages team has looked into this already, and apparently, there was no action, so maybe photo hubs are allowed.

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   queenbeposted 14 years ago

   I am under the impression that this is a Writing Community not a photo book. There are plenty of other sites to post photography. I feel it is against the rules to only have photo hubs too. I came across them a while ago and was very surprised and disappointed to see that it is apparently allowed. Then again maybe it has not been brought to admins attention. Someone who has been here for a while and has the teams ear should report it. A newbie as I am has no authority. Just my opinion.

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      fishtiger58posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I totally agree.

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    rmcrayneposted 14 years ago

    HubPages gives us the opportunity to flag any hub or forum post, and give our reason for concern.  So if you find this hubber's hubs objectionable, flag them. Then leave it to the hub team, and let it go, move on. I understand what you're saying about the pictures-only hubs.  Many hubbers find these hubs objectionable.  Naming someone in the forum however IMO is uncool.  If you really feel strongly and want a response to your concerns, email the hubpages team.

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       Justine76posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       yup.

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       R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I was supposed to start a thread about photo hubs, but then again, naming the hubber is the only way to show my concern, which is, to know why the hubber has been publishing only photos and receiving 500+ fans in return.
       
       I get what you mean about naming the hubber as uncool, but it is not a personal attack (at least not that I mean to), because I was pointing to all her hubs. After all, even if I post a link to just one of her hubs, and mention "hubber" instead of a name, people will still know her. Now if I don't put even a single link, how can I raise my concern?

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    cosetteposted 14 years ago

    haha.
    
    

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    lynnechandlerposted 14 years ago

    Hi Cosette,
    
    Wish there was a way to check IP addresses. Just saying?

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       you can check my IP with hubpages. I'm from Argentina .

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          tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          and what's your problem????

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             lynnechandlerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             LOL, no problem just a curiosity!

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                tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Well I don't like people making presumptions and suppositions about me.
                I don't use alter egos  to reply to my posts.  I think that's very stupid!
                So I find your comment offensive.

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    lynnechandlerposted 14 years ago

    My curiosity isn't about you tantrum it was more in ref to the OP. Sorry to have offended you unintentionally.

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       OK Don't worry. no hard feelings.
       But you have to admit that it looks as it was intended to cosette and me

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    lynnechandlerposted 14 years ago

    I'll creep back into my hole now, lol. Carry on.

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       you don't have to creep back to any hole. I think ?

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    sunforgedposted 14 years ago

    Photo Hubs are allowed, not only are they allowed if you look into what keywords that use "hubpages"  in the query (using adwords keywords tool) bring the most viewers to hubpages..about 7 out of 10 are searches are those related to pictures.
    
    the suggestion to flag these is wrong..by flagging you are wasting a moderators time
    
    Im not saying photo hubs are right or wrong,a lot of us that write are somehow bothered by those who dont write, and many of us artists are annoyed that people can just blatantly steal photos and post them here (at least it irks me)...but just having photos is allowed, save the flags for worthy reasons
    
    *edit* i have no way of telling which actually lead to hubpages..but the top searches are for image related hubs...these people could be doing us a favor..maybe some of that traffic jumps through the related hubs links to our pages that we actually write and think on"

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    R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years ago

    Thanks for the post sunforged. I didn't know that flagging photo hubs is wrong. I just thought that hubs that only show photos are of low quality, so I flagged one of her hubs. It was just shocking (at least to me) that all her hubs are only photos. No offense to everyone who found what I did here in the forums as rude or unethical. I was just thinking flickr and photobucket are more appropriate sites to showcase these pictures.
    
    About the number of fans...I'm sorry if some of you misunderstood me. She is not bothering me, cosette; and I do have a life, tantrum. I was hoping that some people would provide an insight into why she has many fans even if there is actually nothing to read in her hubs. And for this I thank those people who explained the reciprocity in fanning lots of hubbers.
    
    @ Tantrum: Well if you don't like people "making presumptions and suppositions" about you, I hope that you don't also make presumptions and suppositions about other people too. And don't worry, I'm gonna stay away from you.

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       sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       its not my place to say flagging photo hubs is wrong ..its your right to flag what you feel breaks TOS here, but i can say that that TOS does not disallow photo hubs and if that is the only reason you draw attention to a hub, which a human will than personally look at...only to find there is nothing wrong with it, than the whole community lost that time which could have been spent on an actual violation

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    Lisa HWposted 14 years ago

    In fairness, some of those photos are pretty intriguing.  I can see how someone would fan this person and want to see what s/he posts for a Hub next.

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    drej2522posted 14 years ago

    I agree...I can't believe I'm saying this but...the photos are cool! I can't stop looking!

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    sunforgedposted 14 years ago

    the issue in my eyes, which is obvious but outside of our locus of control...
    
    Is the hubs consist of stolen material...as do all of the photo hubs and most photo hubbers, just tons of stolen copied photos with watermarks openly posted for profit, as an artist it annoys me greatly
    
    I was checking out one that was filled with toothpick art and had pictures of the creator, nowhere is the photographer credited, and nowhere is the artist credited.
    
    The photos are watermarked "bollybite"  which seems to be another site that just openly steals content, someone tried to hide the watermarks in a few of the photos
    
    We might not be able to flag and remove but at least there is that "down" button

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       R.G. San Ramonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well put.

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    habeeposted 14 years ago

    I say live and let live. Personally, I would not want a hub that's all photos, but I consider myself a writer - not a photographer.

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