Jesus- Forgive them as they know not what they do" Doesnt work.
Personal attacks - You're inviting the insults. I've been watching in some forum messages. You're calling yourself the enlightened poet. Nobody is here to know just who are you. Your profile summary is shown on the left side, your avatar is there along with profile name. You don't even need to put your signature like this (Enlightened poet Mohit.K.Misra) in forum messages
- sandra rinckposted 15 years ago
0It answers why you are so blind and unable to be humbled, because you would rather have praise from man then from God. Here you are lost, but you can be found again if you could listen to those around you who are doing thier best to make you see the things that you are doing that you can not see for yourself.
But hey...what we can all see about you is not fault of your own. So, yes God will forgive you of the things you do not know. It is the very blessing that saves man of thier transgressions because in the vastness of the Universe, many stumbling blocks are placed in the path of those who seek to be righteous, but without accepting help from those who really want you to see, you left on your own to dwell in the messes you create yourself.
This is not an attack Mohit, not an attack.Yes they were forgiven, he even forgave Judas. He forgave Peter, he forgave the adulteress, he forgave all man of thier sins and the jews for having him crucified, because Jesus knows the many afflictions that fall upon man.
Jesus forgives because there are things that we do that we don't know, we don't always know when our actions hurt other people, we don't always know when we are being decieved, and besides that we live on Earth were "Satan" rules the system of life and people are easily taken advatage of and Jesus knows this.
This is why I forgive, this is why I don't care if people believe or disbelieve, this is why I can find a reason for everyone to be forgiven, this is why I understand.
I speak to bring people away from believing that they have to act or speak in such and such a way because God's love is accepting of all people great and small.
God forgives the man who says I do not need to repent, why...because I am certain that that person found no folley in his ways because he was hardened by the inequities of man, not God.Yes he did forgive but does it work or do the people who insulted him were they spared of the karmic consequences.
They were spared by the compassion and unconditional love that Jesus had/has to offer.
I am pretty sure that the guilt the people felt afterwards was enough. and I don't believe that Jesus required this of them either, but in his heart of God, he just knows that these people acted out of fear or ignorance or of things they just don't understand. This is a nice answer.Thank you.
No enlightened one wants to harm anyone as he sees all in himself.The universe teaches with pain and suffering.Like love pain can be a superb teacher.I have written this couplet,
Absolute delight and utter confusion,
From the moment of our fusion.
It is normal to be confused after a spiritual experience and it took me years to come to terms with mine.This is in regards to your vision.
I have studied the book in translation from the original texts, and I disagree with this characterisation. Most modern day Christians operate on a version of what the Bible means which cannot be supported by reference to the original text. The fundamentalist "by the book" interpretation is based on a woeful ignorance of Biblical studies, archaeology, and history, and owes more to the political needs of the Roman Catholic Church after the fall of the Roman Empire than it does to anything any prophet ever actually said.
You have been given bad advice about how the Christian God and the notion of forgiveness operate.
I am not sure how these statement are relevant.
At the time that he is feeling insulted, he is human, not saint. God-Consciousness allows for no insult.
This is a primitive, superstitious belief system that has no place in enlightened discourse. There are no curses in God-Consciousness, only blessings. Wrath is one of the seven deadly sins, which kill God-Consciousness.
I have as much idea as you do, o enlightened one.
A person who does not believe in you, or who says rude things about you, hardly qualifies as "evil", LOL. I am sure Shiva's sword was put to much more noble use than petulant posturing over perceived persecution.
Jenny
The only way to stop troll is to stop talking to him
very nice!
I enjoy her interuptions and input, I have learned from her.
I think you are mistaken, diversity breeds good threads. Are you expecting to teach people things they already know? Or do you wish that they only understand you? Seems quite unfair circumstances. Anyways, everyone came equiped with the id, it, and ego.
Told ya Charlotte
Third worst poet and the most useless troll in the universe just thrives for your attentionPlease Mohit, if you don't like what they say then ignore it and move on. It wont kill you to just turn the other cheek. Plus I think it isn't very nice to keep calling Misha AK-47. Misha is one of the sweetest people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.
I think he would never stop calling himself a great poet and also enlightened
O, now he triple posted about being enlightened troll
Hoja Nasreddin (sp?) Used to say - No matter how many times one says halva, it won't become sweet in your mouth
Sorry for bad translation - it sounds much better originally.- sandra rinckposted 15 years ago0
Yeah Jenny!
Also, Mohit, prophets and saints don't seek revenge nore do they seek praise, they give and forgive, love and bless etc... "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6)
AK-74Great way to execute that saying.
- sandra rinckposted 15 years ago0
Creationism and Evolution and the Big Bang work fine together in my book.
Though Jenny, I too am wondering about what you posted, it really doesn't make much sense. I think maybe a typo? - Zarm Nefilinposted 15 years ago0
What I think Jenny is saying, quite correctly, is that in the Old World there is a well established tradition of 'cultural Christianity', which accepts much of the teachings of Christ and of the Church without necessarily accepting the virgin birth, his resurrection, or ultimately his divinity. You could call this a 'post-Christianity' if you like. When people, brought up in a Christian tradition, cease believing in some of the articles of faith, the change is barely perceptible from the outside, because they continue to behave according to the mores of their society. And certainly it is not uncommon to meet Christian ministers of various denominations who do not hold to the Credo in every detail.
The attitude of unquestioning acceptance of the literal truth of the bible is very much rarer in educated Europe than in the States, as is the insistence that 'intelligent design' should be taught alongside or even instead of evolution.
Jenny - if this is not what you were referring to, I'll happily be correctedThanks for the courteous answer. I think most people here tend to read all the threads, at least superficially and are sensitised towards anything that looks spammy. Maybe oversensitised in this case
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