Biblical worldview vs Secular worldview Mark vs. Gardner

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   AEvansposted 14 years ago

   The subject has been chosen for the serious debate!
   
   1. The debate is between Mark and Gardner it is not between all others on HP this thread is not open to others commenting please keep your comments to yourselves, as an audience you may ask questions but you may not harass, badger or post deragatory comments against either side.
   
   
   2. Both parties will respect each others comments and debate as professionals without mocking one another.
   
   3. All judges will discuss and will gather at the end of the debate via e-mail and come to a conclusion should there be a tie then all will respect one another.
   
   Last the objective of this debate should be able to provide both sides with a better understand of Biblical vs. Secular worldviews. 
   
   Gentleman get ready , let's get readddyyyyyy to rumbbbbllllleee!!!
   
   Remember people outside of Mark and Gardner, ssshhhhhhh only questions please.

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      epic title.

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   Don Wposted 14 years ago

   My popcorn is getting cold.

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   Bovine Currencyposted 14 years ago

   MOoo From the Cow, judge present.

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   Bovine Currencyposted 14 years ago

   What is going on here

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   AEvansposted 14 years ago

   It it supposed to begin tomorrow.

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      Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, nice one

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   thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years ago

   Are we still doing this or what?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Waiting on you.

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   lynnechandlerposted 14 years ago

   Could you both give a little overview of your side to get things started here?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      No. We have agreed a set format.
      
      @ Gardner - I suggest you start a new thread and re state your proposition.
      
      "Biblical theory better describes the origins of human life as opposed to Evolution Theory."
      
      Three rounds of:
      
      The Affirmative always goes first(that would be Gardner)
      
      Then the Negative gets to cross-examine and asks question to the affirmative
      
      Then the Negative presents their case
      
      Then the Affirmative get to  cross examine and ask the negative questions
      
      The Affirmative does their rebuttal (no new arguments) just refutation
      
      Then the Negative gives rebuttal (no new arguments)  and closing
      
      Then the Affirmative closes
      
      Then the judges vote

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         thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Are you starting a new thread or should I post here?

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            AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I would recommend posting it here everyone has been anxiously waiting.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I will start a new one as we already have a bunch of comments on this one. Cleaner.

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               AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Get your batooty in gear all of us are excited!

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   lynnechandlerposted 14 years ago

   Sorry, didn't know that was just curious about a little background is all. Let the games begin.

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   GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years ago

   Looks like Mark is fired-up, Good luck to the two of you, Can I play arbiter nyahahaha just kidding...

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    Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

    LOL
    
    Gardner already made his opening statement and I am considering my response. I have a week to pose questions if I remember rightly.
    
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/30050

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       AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You certainly do!

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          Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          AEvans, are you going to put the debate into a hub at it's conclusion, for those of us that come along later?

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             AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I never thought about that one since it is your idea I would recommend that you should, I would not take someone's idea away from them.

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                Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Oh I would have...but I can't read or type in english....sorry.... The truth is I think you'd do a better job than I would... Have Fun Mikel

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                   earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Mikel, really? You can't type or write in English?

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                      Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Can someone tell what that says???

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                   AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I see passing the buck, lololo ...mmmmmmm well if you wish for me to and I see that you write in english very, very well! lololo juast for you I will do it.

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                      Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Muaaahhh 

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                         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         Slippery Mikel, very slippery.

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                      GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Wow the debate started with a blast coming from truth... hehehe, Mark will surely have his hands full with this... as he tries to mount his refutations... interesting indeed, Mark indirectly ask for a week to give his response

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                         Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         A five minute job

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                            GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            ROFL on that Para I hope it is... the audience like me is eager to see how this debate will push through though...

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                         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         LOLOL
                         
                         Well - seeing as the entire thing amounts to "science is lying," I am actually considering what a reasonable response is.
                         
                         I could do it in 5 minutes - as Paraglider says, because there really is nothing to respond to, but I am hoping to respond in such a fashion as we learn something from each other and perhaps get across the fact that evolution is a scientific theory attempting to explain the facts we have observed - rather than a philosophy.
                         
                         I am not really sure where the bible says that T Rex was actually a 900 year old lizard that mysteriously died out after the flood, and am deciding which parts to respond to without resorting to ridicule.
                         
                         I realize Gardner took around 3 minutes to formulate his opening statement - and it shows. I also have other things to do.

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                            GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            I'm just eager Mark, as I am keeping my eye on your reply with that of Gardner's... Hmmm it seems to me you are doing your homework, looking for some weaknesses... That remains to be seen though... Goodluck Mark and to Gardner as well... I just broke your silence with this thread hehehe a bit sorry for that though

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                               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               No - I am not doing any homework. I do not need to. But I would like to get something productive from this debate and there is not much in Gardner's opening to work with.

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                                  GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                  Okies my friend, as you say it...

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                            thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            If you think you're right don’t draw this out ask your questions lets  keep this debate going, don't stall. Btw theme is not “science is lying” it's evolutionism is a lie There a BIG difference. Evolutionists presented Ida, Ardi and Lucy etc. as facts and missing links. Scientists were honest and retracted them as just bones and drawings, and not proof of evolution.

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                               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               Dude - I am not interested in debating your ridiculous garbage here. I will respond in a timely manner on the designated thread. I was responding to another religionist here who was accusing me of stalling. I understand that your statement took a very, very short space of time to build because it is not based on any thing and is 100% without any supporting arguments or facts.
                               
                               I am attempting to keep it civil rather than just laughing at some of your 100% utterly baseless statements.
                               
                               On the designated thread.
                               
                               Here? I will laugh at you - so please do not start arguing with me here.

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                                  thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                  Grow up mark. I supported my arguments plenty, so you're just angry so you come here like a child having a tantrum. Stop stalling! You say my arguments are baseless prove it and stop this childish banter. You're the one talking about the debate outside the designated thread Why? To put on some nonchalant show? I see through it.

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                                     Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                     Deary me. Can you not read? I was being attacked by yet another religionist.

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                                        thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                        Attacked? Not yet wait until CX.

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                                        GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                        Sorry Mark... for that.
                                        
                                        I am a religionist-rationalist hehehe, a bit unique eh...

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                               GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               I am just keeping my mouth shut up here hehehe... I am looking forward that the best man wins when the smoke of battle clears out. More than many hours have elapsed already, hayz...

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    Daniel Carterposted 14 years ago

    Question:
    So this is the thread that you can both call names and insult because the other thread  is sacrosanct? Civility in the "real" thread then becomes nullified by this thread, does it not?
    
    Just observing...

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       thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       True. I suggest we both stay out of any other thread discussing the debate, but I doubt that mark can control himself.

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          Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          That is what I said in the first place.
          
          Thank you.

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             thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             No you came here first with your back-handed attacks and weak attempts to belittle me outside the designated thread. From now on keep the ridicule to yourself save your refutations for the debate okay.

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                Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                LOL
                
                Scroll up. I was responding to another religioniost.

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                   thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Back-handed, third party still count.

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                      GeneralHowitzerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Stay cool GeneralHowitzer...

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                         thetruthhurts2009posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         

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