Ryan is leaving us ...
Ho hum. Big shame. I for one hope he doesn't. He has achieved what he set out to do - write, develop his skills and earn money along the way.
I do wish folks would stop leaving.
I'm not by the way. I like the long haul - with most things.
Ryan - wherever you're going, I wish you the best. Enjoy Christmas and the New Year and I hope your writing brings you great success
And in case you change your mind - wlecome back in advance.Sorry we aren't so smart, sassy by STAYING DC
@ FD.... Ho Hum Indeed
- cosetteposted 14 years ago
0suffering cats, this is a major bummer
yes he says as much here:
http://hubpages.com/profile/ryankett 
- cosetteposted 14 years ago0
I don't know that I've ever said such a thing to another hubber before but - do shut up.
Perhaps you need a little sugar on your tongue, to sweeten up your utterings.
Ryan is heading out the door, as Pam did the other day. What on earth is wrong with saying 'I wish you all the best'?
*shakes head*
And why shouldn't he leave his hubs up? They're his, he's earned the right to continue earning from them, therefore he can leave them where he chooses.
Seriously - there's something decidely sharp about a knife
I do agree, it was probably the thread about Pam that made her decide to quickly take everything down. we don't know the situation, so why do people feel free to judge?
It's done all the time.
Ryan's done it at least once before. If he's leaving, I wish him well, of course, but he mentions "backlash" against the kind of Hubs he does. It's not for me to second-guess his reasons, but I'm not under the impression there's been "backlash" against the kind of Hubs he does - just a few people being open about the fact that not everybody enjoys doing that kind of Hub.
I'd be surprised if someone who so often seems to be looking for something to spar over would leave over perceived "backlash". Ryan's a sharp and capable Hubber, and I really don't think he's the type to "melt" just because some people have complained about the very realities of Internet writing/marketing that he so well knows are the way of the Internet world.
Since Ryan is apparently earning well on HubPages, I find it hard to believe he'd cut off his nose to spite his face over conversation that hasn't always been all puppy-dogs and daisies. Ryan's always seemed to enjoy challenging others with "edgy" remarks on here (and I'll admit enjoying the challenge from time to time). I suspect he may be trying to make a point by doing (or saying he's going to do) the very thing he apparently disapproved of when another Hubber did it. Oh well, I'll bite and join Ryan in the message of his recent thread regarding the different aims of Hubbers, and agree with Ryan that there are realities of the Internet and if someone can't take the heat they should (as Ryan suggested in other words) adjust or get out of the kitchen. The difference between the two Hubbers in question, though, is that one Hubber was facing a whole Internet/Hub culture that doesn't particularly value what she had to offer; while what Ryan has to offer is very much the thing that the Internet culture and HubPages clearly values, embraces, and encourages.
In any case, "publicity stunt", "making a point", or just tired of dealing with the many different attitudes/opinions of so many different people (and everyone gets tired of that every so often), Merry Christmas, Ryan. When it comes down to it, everyone does whatever is right for him at the time; and when it's no longer right does something else again. It's all part of an Internet culture that says, "ho hum" and "whatever" about people, writing talent, search engines, and sometimes even money.
sorry to see him go, but everyone is here for different reasons.
some use it as a spring board ~~ I like it here and plan to stay regardless of who is or isn't leaving.
I haven't read his hub yet... merry christmas Ryan, you've helped so many of us here.Well, he did not slam the door behind as some others did, so I guess he will show up in forums time to time.
- Justine76posted 14 years ago0
ugh, my head hurts.
Its freaking christmas and I am surrounded by drama queens in my family.
Ryan, you are so very good at what you do. sorry I dont comment much, but I am well aware of how hard you work and I admire you.
I have not yet read your profile, so perhaps I am in the wrong here. I hope your leaving because it is a good move for you, not becuase you are upset.
If your upset, I hope you feel better soon, dont delete your hubs till your sure, dont waste all that hard work. you would feel "silly" when you calm down.
(plus Poetlorraine might kick your but)
If its for your best interest, and you have calmly planned it out, then I wish you the very best. Good luck in all your endeavours, and I hope you have a wonderfull Christams. I wish you all the best Ryan. I will miss you.
I am out of here for a few days, so -
Merry Christmas one and all.
Oh Please don't leave, I will miss you. crying
But honestly I benefitted from a site dude (ryan) gave out recently but all am saying is, this is all based on publicity. If not why will you be online with 199 hubs and not stop by. Its easy to anounce retirement but its hard to unretire.
Happy Holidays people.
- Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago0
another one leaving us?
I'm getting really bummed out! Ryan if you read this stay in contact via email buddy! please? Take care Ryan and Best wishes on whatever you choose to do.
Cosette, I'm not completely sure if what you mean I'm doing is saying "whatever", but if it is, yes - I'm doing that, the way (for the most part) most other people always do when anyone else leaves.
I, personally, think Ryan would be wise to stay. I think most people (even if they don't get all upset and excited over who comes or goes) like to see long-term Hubbers stay. I think most think the Hubs and the work shouldn't just be wiped out. Then again, though, anyone who decides to wipe out his own Hubs can always do "the next thing with them". I give people credit for knowing what they're doing when they make that choice, even if I do think it's unfortunate. I think anyone familiar with the work and efforts and progress of a Hubber like Ryan thinks it's unfortunate if someone feels the need to leave. I don't think, though, that observing that, when it comes down to it, most people say "whatever" when someone else leaves is saying there's anything horrible about that. Sure, there are Hubbers who get to be close friends with one or another, and they get more personally attached if a Hubber-friend decides to leave. In general, though, whether its on HubPages or at work in a corporation or anywhere else, there's only so much feeling bad most people are going to do when someone leaves. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people just think, "Oh, that's too bad" but then recognize that people leave places and things all the time for their own reasons.
If you work at a company for a long time and leave, people may hate to see you go at the time, but leaving a company, and certainly leaving a site like HubPages, don't call for a lot of stewing over it (and my remark about saying "whatever" and "ho hum" wasn't intended to reply that there's anything wrong with the fact that most people aren't going to get all upset if anyone leaves work or a website.
If Ryan came on here and said he's staying I'd think, "well, good for him. Good decision." He's done his "f @!$%# you, all you Hubbers" (complete with all the profanity, not just the implication) leaving posts in the past, and more than one of them. There has been all the "please-come-back" stuff, and the "glad-you're-back" stuff, etc. etc. If someone says, "ho hum" or "whatever" because he's said, yet again, that he's leaving, I don't see it as anything but the way people always are whenever anyone leaves anything. So, yes, I'm saying, "It's unfortunate, but whatever." I never said he shouldn't stay. I just said if he chooses not to its his business. Everyone on here has so often acknolwedged Ryan's good work, effort, and Hubs.
The reason I was "conjecturing" was that I found Ryan's "announcement" and complaint oddly timed so often after he started the thread that about how long-time writers should "adapt" or else leave HubPages, and added the name of a long-time Hubber who had already left and also added comments about people who "can't grasp" SEO principles. The thread essentially came across as saying, "What's the big deal about this respected and well liked writer leaving? People like she, who don't like the way things are these days, should leave if they can't adjust. So, a few hours after Ryan posted his thread I did find he comment that it could be a publicity stunt one that seemed right, as people were discussing whether it was real or not.
To all who find what I posted objectionable, on the one hand I can understand it. We all have our human tendencies to get angry when it looks like someone is "going after" someone. It's what I did several hours ago when it looked to me like Ryan was "going after" PGrundy. So many other people were so supportive or her and understanding of her decision; and it sure seemed to me that his starting that separate thread looked like he was out to make a not-too-supportive point about her and her decision to leave. So, as you have all done here on his behalf, I got aggravated on behalf of someone who, to me, was clearly disenchanted after being such a gifted writer.
To add fuel to what was probably going on with my inability to resist the urge to say what I did was the fact that within the last day I had been, yet once again, yet another Hubber who was on the receiving end of Ryan's "jumping on" on a remark that, really, didn't call for such huffiness. Ryan, himself, has said something to the effect that he's a fighter; so I've never seen any huffiness to me or other people as a big deal; which is why I didn't see a little "sharpness" in a post about his leaving as a big deal either. I was actually giving him credit for being the shrewd, clever, individual he is; and I actually thought he may enjoy having someone pick up on some clever thing he was doing (again, perhaps, making a follow-up point after discussions about some people's disenchantment with the writing-versus-marketing thing).
I'm not trying to skulk out of responsibility for offending people on here. As I said, I can understand it, coming from people who may not have had the edgy-back-and-forth with Ryan that I've had (usually initiated by one of his edgy replies to a comment that didn't start out that way), or witnessed in the past, and that led me to think he appreciates a little edginess and (as he once described it) bluntness or honesty. Does anything I said at all mean I wouldn't wish him well, or don't think it's unfortunate if he does go through with taking his Hubs down? No, and I'm sorry if anyone interpreted things that way - to everyone who found it offensive, and to Ryan.
Having said that, I don't regret or apologize for not bemoaning his leaving any more than he bemoaned PGrundy's choice to leave. What I regret is that I've used the forums as my "break" from tedious work so long I'm suffering from lack of patience. Anyone who knows me on here probably knows that I'll debate a point to the point where people probably want to kill themselves or me, but I'm not someone who "goes after" someone else for no reason or someone who makes rude remarks to people who disagree with me or people who just strike me as deserving of a fresh remark. It's in human nature (yours as well as mine) to instinctively step up to defend someone or something any of us thinks needs defending, or to "let people have it" if we think they're being too callous about or toward someone else for no reason we understand.
The forums are human nature on display. So, before I take a wise, long and welcome break (for me and others, I'm sure) from the forums I'd just like to mention that the "have some decency" comment kind of makes me laugh. With, as far as I can recall, the exception of this one incident, there hasn't been a time when I've not been "decent" to anyone I've ever dealt with, even in those rare times when someone else has been incredibly rude or hostile to me or to someone else I think doesn't deserve it.
Anyway, all the best to Ryan, whatever he does. Sorry for coming across heavy-handed and for not being able to resist the urge to give him a dose of what I saw as his own medicine, in view of the fact that he called someone else "petulent" for having issues and leaving. It's not my place to dole out my version of justice (or to have opinions about who thinks "stupid stuff that isn't important" is) on here and anywhere else. I know that - always have. It's just that sometimes human nature does kick in sometimes.
So, I think I'll get the rest of those gingerbread men ready to go on the tree; and maybe find myself a good doll-making site to turn into my new "break-from-tedious-projects" thing. Wish you all have the nicest of Christmases, maybe see you around - maybe not. In the meantime, for all the soap operas and rare "blunt" remark by the occasional Hubber who "doesn't believe in" not being honest; this is a great community, as you know; and I've certainly found more than my share of laughs and nice folks on here. Besides the "Ryan Incident", I just thought this is a good time of year to acknowledge that too. By the way, this isn't a flounce or pseuo-flounce or anything like a flounce. I just thought the issue (which happens to coincide with my own awareness that I've been spending too much time here) deserved to be addressed and explained, because I'm not some aggressive jerk who doesn't care about other people's feelings or who doesn't respect other Hubbers.
Related Discussions
- 76
Wish me luck, not sure when I will be back :/
I go into surgery tomorrow, they are going to rebuild my right eardrum. The doctors couldn't really tell me how long it is going to be before I can function properly again, possibly up to a month - maybe more.I will be back on Hubpages as soon as I can function effectively enough again, although...
- 101
Farewell to Hubpages
I’ve decided to leave Hubpages for the foreseeable future at least. I’ve already taken down quite a few hubs but I’ll be leaving the remaining 85 on this account unless I find a good reason to move them.Why am I leaving? I believe that the Hubpages staff has become far too reactive instead of...
- 37
I am probably leaving HupPages and looking for another site.
I have been thinking of leaving HubPages for a while now because of several reasons. With their latest ebay/amazon update I now have to reformat over 90 hubs (Some had not been published yet and I was waiting for Halloween). Rather than doing this I will use my time looking for a site and...
- 47
Goodbyes are not forever...TO STEVENNIX2001 ....all HUBBERS must read
All right, so many of you know I hate goodbyes and it has come to my attention that Steven is leaving. He says it is indefinite so lets all do everything we can to hold him to that!I will miss your presence here, Steven, and take the liberty to speak on everyone's behalf when I say you rock!I do...
- 123
What The Heck Happened To My Profile Score?
Just had a big drop on my profile score. And all my hubs were featured along with a steady 10 Editors Choice. I say 'were' because 3 were just unfeatured and I don't know what to do about that. My views are over 945,000. Boo-hoo. Hubpages doesn't love me anymore!
- 23
SEX Hubs!!!! Really sick of it!
Okay- I'm about tired of this. Hub Hopping today and 4 sex hubs came through. 2 for escort services including phne #'s, one about sex toys with every other word as vibrator and anal sex, and one with sex photos and a link to escort. How is it that these Hubs are getting approved? I flagged each of...