I don't remember any thread about poor Sarah, I guess its reserved for elected officials.
she was an elected official remember. A state governor of Alaska. Maybe it never occrred to others why she ended up leaving office early under these kind of threats to herself and family.. Sometimes its just not worth hurting your family to serve others abusing their American freedoms.
livelonger, i don't think you understood my post.. I was saying the opposite. I was saying look it happens to all elected officials by people who think its OK to abuse any freedom they have just bcuz they CAN. my very next post states that. I was trying to say that not all effigies are about race but about political uproar against the opposite candidate. I never incited violence against her in fact I was reiterating how it might have lead to her leaving office early under these kind of threats. I think you need to reread what I was saying.
I understood it. I was just expressing my opinion, which differs from yours.
I voted for McCain so when an effigy of him and his running VP are hanged its no big deal to Dems but when it happens to the Dems then the race card is suddenly thrown on the table. Why is it ok for a republican to be effigied in this way and laughed at but when its the other way around it is the most heinous offense.
Who's laughing at it?
The effigy of Palin was reported by 10 of the guy's neighbors (who are probably liberals; this was West Hollywood!), and even Keith Olbermann deplored its message of violence.
Liberals tend to be easily offended but never quite know when they are being offensive. If they are offended they scream loudly, when they offend then you are just too sensitive. Its really quite fun to watch.
Case of free speech, how is it supposed to make me feel?
If you were like most conservatives, very deeply offended. You know, conservatives tend to be very easily offended. See the voting record of Republican and Democratic congresspeople in the 2006 flag burning amendment vote.
Here's another:
I don't give a shit what other people do, I leave that to liberals. I believe in less government,gun rights,all things real conservatives believe.
However
The guy on the right could do better
Well, count yourself among a small (and dwindling) minority of conservatives, then. Most conservatives are against gays getting married because it offends them.
I think you will find 2010 quite the eye opener, liberals have created new conservatives, there are more not less!
But, according to you, there are very few actual conservatives, right?
Very few in a Country of 312 Million are still quite a lot, it won't take 20 million votes to get rid of Obama, it will just take those who actually believed his BS to come around, and they are. But you are right, they won't be true conservatives, yet.
Well, we'll see. Who do you think would run successfully against Obama in 2012?
When the American flag is burnt no big deal, the thinking of the Conservative Christian and the Muslim extremist are no different. A few thousand people died during 9/11 what's the big deal, no need to invade. There was no need bomb Afghanistan these guys were friends of the bushes. We should all stop over reacting when planes are blown up. Sick thinking creates sick actions
Livelonger wrote
"If you were like most conservatives, very deeply offended. You know, conservatives tend to be very easily offended. See the voting record of Republican and Democratic congresspeople in the 2006 flag burning amendment vote."
Some people are offended by the sight of the U.S. Flag burning, its a natural feeling for people who love their Country. My feelings are not shared by all conservatives because very few people are really conservatives.
Another image that tends to make conservatives hyperventilate (note not putting his hand on his heart, and not wearing a flag pin):
My feelings about Barack Obama are that he is a scumbag, he learned from scumbags, and he surrounds himself with scumbags. The fact that his hand is not over his heart just reinforces his scumbaggery!
Does that offend you?
Then you are not a typical liberal, people who have negative opinions on the "anointed one" are usually called racists. But, I bet thats really what you're, thinking, ain't it?
The typical liberal says Obama-bashing is only done by racists? You really should stop creating strawman arguments to support your prejudices against liberals.
We tend to see it as the same petty, mindless partisanship that Republicans were gripped with during the Clinton era. Conservatives seem all too willing to cut their nose to spite their face, so to speak.
I did not post that pic of Palin TO OFFEND ,but to show that dirty liberals OFFENDED first. But since i'm not that sensitive about that you can post all the pics of burning flags you want. Just don't go saying I incited violence against her when I voted for her and McCain. I was trying to show how liberals demeaned her. And obviously the type of people who put it up were laughing and others like them.
Sounded as if you were stating I threatened violence - here is youre quote:
"I am no Palin lover at all, by any means, but I think this is disgusting. You can say whatever you want about this politician, but to threaten violence is really awful."
or were you meaning in general, bcuz I was trying to show that Republicans were offended as well
Livelonger meant the ones who put the effigy up.
I'm more offended by the gay pic than the flag burning although liberal flag burning is what brought about the union of sodomists to the stage its at. Why two men would want to commit flaming totrurous sodomy on one another is beyond me .. I'm out
I don't know what to say, for a typical liberal viewpoint go to my hub and read the first comment by a liberal, I think you will see where I'm coming from.
LOL, if you're talking about Lita, I believe she considers herself a conservative.
That's who I'm talking about, conservative? She has never presented any conservative views and has denigrated those who have, conservative, thats funny!
I find it funny how gay people seem to bring their sexuality to every discussion even when the topic is not about sexuality. I post a pic about a hanging effigy on the topic of effigies and you put up up a pic about gay men getting married. What does that have to do with the subject. Stay on the subject at least. youre wandering.
heres one of burning bush at the stake. I'm sure noone found this terrible at the time.
OHHH the HORROR of seeing this bag of clothes filled with newspapers burning. I just might faint at the political uncorrectness!
I'm pretty much in the boat with Mitch. I don't LIKE to see the flag treated with disrespect, largely because my grandfathers, father, and uncles fought in both World Wars. I do, however, agree that it's freedom of expression. As for gay rights, I don't care what they do. It doesn't bother me.
By the same token, I don't like my freedoms encroached upon, either. I don't want to pay an extra tax to tan or to buy soft drinks. I want to be able to own a gun. I don't believe the government has a right to take my property to put up a parking garage. I don't want my healthy adult children to be forced to buy health insurance they can't afford and don't want. I don't want to be forced to pay for Nebraska's Medicaid FOREVER when I live in GA!
Regardless, it is still a sore spot to many,many black people when a black man is hanged in effigy. Many were alive when it was a common thing for a black man to be hanged for minor offenses or the suspicion of minor offenses.
I'm not excusing when it is done of others either but you have to consider the history. I do not like Sara Palin but I thought that hanging in effigy was disgusting. Two wrongs still do not make a right.
I'm so glad this thread disintegrated into the same old tired arguments.
This is a one question poll that should give a little perspective on the Presidents progress and popularity.
Q. The president's progress with the battered economy has been both praised and criticized. How well are his efforts measuring up with you?
The results
Extremely well. We are undoubtedly moving in the right direction. 36%
Fairly well. There's still a long way to go. 1%
Not well at all. His plans are hurting more than helping. 63%
Not sure/No opinion. 0%
Out of 52,663,605 votes cast so far.
http://js.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quizifra … l_id=46067
Man, they are a lot of Angry Rednecks!
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