"China urges US to cancel meeting with Dalai Lama": Yahoo!

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   fishskinfreak2008posted 14 years ago

   Web-site/URL: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100212/ap_ … dalai_lama
   
   Nearly 2 years after the latest flare-up involving the Tibetan spiritual leader, CHINA is still going after him. CHINA IS TOO AGGRESSIVE.

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      i don't get that. he seems like such a nice guy...

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      IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I saw that too.  I do not think he will.

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   Sab Ohposted 14 years ago

   Nothing new here. China always goes through these motions when the Dalai Lama is due to visit.

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      fishskinfreak2008posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      China is always aggressive when it doesn't get its way like say, we're in a GLOBAL financial crisis and yet, CHINA insists that they will achieve 9 or 10% growth this year. It's CRAZY because they do it by MANIPULATING NUMBERS.

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         china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Nothing crazy about the numbers - they do it by continuing with a huge building programme that encourages vast numbers of new apartment buildings; also huge spending on infrastructure which includes the new rail link into Tibet and the new road which is more important for them. Also they have a huge domestic market within China which can absorb any over-production, keeps prices down here and makes it easier for the poorer people to get some of the good stuff.

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            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Ah yes, the 'Wipe Out Tibetan Culture' rail link! And, while the consumer base is growing, China is and will remain heavily dependent on exports to support all its economic activity (including influence-peddling in Latin America, Africa, and SEA) until what I predict will be a massive correction somewhere not too far down the road. Still, I applaud the growth that may lead to a real middle class that may succeed in forcing political change where peasant revolts and worker demonstrations have thus far failed.

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               china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I thought it was the 'get the tourists up there' rail link which is about the only real income that Tibet gets. It is always possible to look at things in different ways, like trashing Iraq for their own good.
               
               Tibetan culture seems to be alive and well despite the upheavals - and my Tibetan friends are no more unhappy with the situation than my friends from Xingjiang, who are no more unhappy than my friends in Northern Ireland, or my friends in the various American satellite countries.
               
               Shit happens all around the world as the various powers seek advantage and try to make trouble for each other and our own countries have no moral high ground in these things for us to stand on.

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                  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  If Tibetans are as 'happy' as the Uyghurs its worse than I thought, and deservedly so.
                  
                  
                  The Tibetans I spoke to when I was there referred to the Han as "pigs," and the Tibetan refugees I've worked with in the states who hiked for weeks across the Himalayas to escape oppression haven't had much better to say.
                  
                  You don't need to calculate on some moral equivalency scale in order to point out when something is wrong.

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   MikeNVposted 14 years ago

   The Media Portrays the "Dalai Lama" as some kind of saint.  He's just another in a long line of power hungry leaders.  There is nothing special about him.
   
   Counter Point:
   
   http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/engli … 42058.html
   
   http://www.newspiritualbible.com/index2
   
   China is an Anti God Country. They are a communist regime.  Why Americans suddenly are singing their praises is astounding to me.
   
   China does not represent freedom and neither does the Dalai Lama. They both enforce their view on the people.

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      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "China is an Anti God Country"
      
      I wouldn't go that far.
      
      
      "They are a communist regime"
      
      More in name than practice at this point.
      
      
      "They both enforce their view on the people"
      
      If you want to get philosophical, so does pretty much everyone.

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      china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Americans are singing their praises because they are lending you the money for Obama's initiative thing, and they have bought up ailing companies that would further damage your economy if they go under. As they have in the UK.  Also it is quite likely that China will be taking over as the biggest economy before very long so best to buddy up I think - and actually that is a good idea anyway.
      
      And from where I stand America and the UK ceased to represent freedom a long time ago, somewhere between the Vietnam 'war' and the trashing of Iraq on a pack of lies and deception of their 'free' people.

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   "An anti-god country"
   Good, one less pile of baloney to argue about!

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      china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well - sorry to disappoint but a good many people here do believe in a god. Contrary to the general belief almost all the different religions are followed it is only hard selling the stuff that is proscribed - yet another Chinese law that gets my approval. Luckily Buddhism is by far the most favoured spritual bag. although actually most Chinese have a very healthy attitude toward it all, they let off firecrackers before most meals to drive away evil spirits - that they talk about as bad luck, no ghostie ghoulies, but they do have a very healthy respect for Halloween and honour the ancestors by cleaning off the graves and leaving 'spirit food' in representative little bowls, also burning specially printed money for the dead so the old man can buy his fags - just in case there is another side, as my delightful Chinese partner tells it. All in all I don't think you would generally object to their god, no hellfire, no damnation, and no flagellation of choir boys etc.

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         Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         "they let off firecrackers before most meals to drive away evil spirits"
         
         MOST meals? That's overstating it a bit
         
         " I don't think you would generally object to their god, no hellfire, no damnation"
         
         I think you need to look into it a bit more

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            china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry for the slip - I meant to put ' at this time' - we are in the Chinese New Year week.
            
            What do you mean about their god, I write it as I see it living here and meeting people in the city and in the village and that is what I see - what did you see when you were here that is different ?

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               Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               If you look into traditional Chinese portrayals of hell you will find that they would have made Dante blush.

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                  china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  save me the research - maybe you can explain it for me. I get all my information from the people around me who I know well - and I can say with confidence that they would have no idea about any hell. Even the Christians among them are actually more like Buddhists in their thinking and see quite clearly that these things are just representations and of little interest.

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   Hokeyposted 14 years ago

   China is China. The "Dalai Lama" is the "Dalai Lama". People are people. You are you. I am me. What doesn't directly affect me I try not to have an opinion on. Namaste

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      china manposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think that is generally how the old chap himself sees it also. Namaste

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      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "What doesn't directly affect me I try not to have an opinion on"
      
      
      The Nazis would have loved you

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   IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years ago

   Christians, should be more Buddha-like; here, there, everywhere.

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