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   E Jposted 15 years ago

   Well, after reading all of the comments it comes as no suprise that there are still wars going on in this world! Until people can accept that others are entitled to their own beliefs and opinions then we will surely make no progress at all!

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   dishyumposted 15 years ago

   Now, the topic is Hatred for Mohit ?

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      E Jposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I think we should rise above "hatred" that is a strong word to use. It just seems that some folk may be slighty annoyed by the opinions of others!

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   Kika Roseposted 15 years ago

   Strange, I could have sworn Jesus was prosecuted for being a false prophet and a radical to the Jewish synagogue...
   
   Why not take a page out of Jesus's own life and "turn your cheek" when slapped with insults? If you ask me, that would be a more "enlightened" way to go about doing things than flinging insults back. Seriously, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth make both people look like idiots. It's just not worth it.

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      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      What is wrong is wrong, its simple and you know it.Whats the difference between enlightenment and a Prophet-no difference

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   Kika Roseposted 15 years ago

   Well, being "enlightened" is like saying you have come to terms with all those around you and with the Higher Power of the religion or belief you follow, while being a prophet means said Higher Power has spoken directly to you and has directed you to tell others of His/Her/Its words and hope they believe what you have to say. While you can be both, they are not the same exact thing. Still gives no one the excuse to hurl hurtful words about, yourself and myself and everyone's self included.

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      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I will defend myself ,is very simple.Someone comes on a Religious forum mocks me,God and other belivers,i am going to tell him or her that he is very ignorant and should meditate and read some more before coming here. There is a limit and I refuse to be crucified like Jesus ,by some atheist jokers,

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   weblogposted 15 years ago

   Hmmm Mohit's score has come to 70 now!

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   Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

   

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      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      The laughing Buddha symbolises an enlightened one laughing at the cosmic joke,nice picture but then you dont believe in enlightenment,because you claim to have meditated ,analysed life and believe there is no God.    
      Wrong picture the Buddha spoke of enlightenment of having found God.

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         mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Also the joke means seeing God in all, not God doesnt exist.

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         sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I think it was more like, when he realized the meaning of life he started laughing.  Doesn't say what he discovered exactly, but God had nothing to do with it.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            That would be my take.
            
            Clearly I am not as enlightened as some ..........

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            mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Please,please please.the laughing Buddha I repeat symbolysis an enlightened one laughing at the cosmic joke.Which means you are the creator,the director,the actor as well as the audience.God has everything to do with the laughing Buddha.
            I think it was more like, when he realized the meaning of life he started laughing-this is correct-realisation or enlightenment.

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   Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

   
   
   Well, I can claim a few strange friends myself - I might even be one.
   
   What I do see a lot on here though is I say to some one "I am an atheist. I do not believe in god." and the response is often, "But you still believe in god though, right?"
   
   Mostly because they cannot conceive of any other way of thinking. If they believe - you must.

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      Kika Roseposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That's hilarious! *falls over laughing* That's almost as bad as my friend Amanda, who claims she won't read the Twilight books because, "They're not Christian." And then we get in this huge debate about Christian books and philosophy and eventually she just cries "UGH!" and stops arguing with me. ^_^ I'm a hard cookie to argue with. My best friend, the one I mentioned being crazy and random and awesome, is a total Christian, but he doesn't sit there and try to convert me. He understands that my beliefs are my own, and I will choose to change them because I want to, not because some Jesus freak bashes his/her ideals into my skull with an iron hammer. Why can't more people be like him?

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   VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

   Whenever we say "just because one Muslim becomes terrorist, all should not be branded as such",  we are trapped. Does any muslim gives a clue to the police about the terrorist?  Does he really not aware of that terrorist.? No community in the world protects terrorists like muslims. Even when a person is caught, they say "my son is innocent" and so on. If a time comes, every muslim will be ready for terrorist activities like in Azamgarh, UP. The whole muslim population in Kashmir valley raise Pakistani flags and sing their anthem. Are these not terrorism? Barely 1 or 2 percent are patriotic and sincere; they lack encouragement in India.

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      In America our terrorist are called the military. 

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      Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Both sides (Catholic & Protestant) protected terrorists in Ireland for years. Most terrorism is only ostensibly about religion

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   VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

   Budhists never had a chance for religious war. May be it started spreading by the initiative taken by mighty Emperor Ashoka. No one could have dared to challenge him at his times. Then, as there was no hatred in its teachings towards others, people found it suitable for them. Nearly half of Asia fell under the spell of Budhism.
   On the other hand, Hindus were forced into religious wars by barbarian invaders from northwest, whose aim was not to spread their religion, but to conquer the lands and keep them under their control. There were no religious debates.. only forcible conversions, and genocide of the Hindus.  As their roots were oversees, they sustained their conquests. After a certain period, Hindus kept themselves behind pavilions and let the invaders fight among themselves.
   Indian history is full of religious wars. Only because of its prosperity and wealth. Hindus can be proud of making every invader rich.. and in the process.. the present status.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    The wars fought between European Kings and Arabs fought in the deserts of Palestine(Crusades) only can be termed as pure religious wars. No other war has so much religious overtones.

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    knolyourselfposted 15 years ago

    "Personally I think HubPages should be reporting some of these outrages posts to Homeland Security themselves."
    So you were one of those who would of turned me in to the nazis. No wonder there were so many murdered. Guess it shall be dangerous for me to communicate with you. Anyway sure they are already watching. So no need for you to worry.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    LOL Mike, what a stupidity.
    
    I guess you don't know how most of those millions who were lost during "house cleaning" were arrested? I can tell you. Other people reported them to KGB. Does it ring any bell for you?
    
    If communism finally comes here - and it is almost came, what happens now is a communist revolution, it just did not come to terror phase yet - you will be among those who will report your neighbors to KGB - oops, homeland security. What you don't foresee though - one of your neighbors will report YOU.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    I, Venugopal Sivagnanam, request all writers to restrict themselves to modesty. Personal attacks are not advisable in such forums. We are all discussing various topics which affect the contemporary world. If our views differ, it is convenient to stay away..
    Someone is saying that Communism is coming and has come already and ' you are reporting to KGB' and 'others will report you to KGB'  are all meaningless. Once upon a time, in early 20th century, Russian people suffered from hunger, and their ruler, the Tsar Nicholos-II did nothing to help the suffering people. Angered people revolted and overthrew him. After a number of instant changes in leadership, the exiled communist leader, Lenin caught the chance and collected the suffering people under communist fold.
    JUST AS COMMUNISM COULD NOT PERFORM ANY MAGIC TO HELP THE SUFFERING PEOPLE, IT DID WHAT IT CAN.... JUST EXTERMINATE THE OPPONENTS....
    HAD THE TSAR DONE THIS BEFORE, HE WOULD HAVE SURVIVED.
    In all communist countries, the conditions prevailed before, justified the arrival of communism., be it China, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea, etc.
    No such condition prevails anywhere in this world and the communication has become very advanced.  Never comes communism anywhere in the world..  No one need to fear.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Excellent analysis grounded in thorough knowledge in World and Russian history
    
    Where was Mark's sarcasm smiley?

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    VENUGOPAL's analysis was not excellent at all Misha because it left out the fact that "Marxism-Leninism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and, ultimately, the elimination of religious beliefs."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
    
    
    
    Well if there is a communist revolution that comes to North America, like you say Misha then I will be reported on because I am a Christian.  So be it.  Was your post suppose to be a threat to me?  Who cares.
    
    What I can't get over though Misha is that you are still laughing at the fact that you called the 95,200,000 victims "house cleaning".  Do you not have any moral decency?  Are all atheists so morally deprived?  I certainly hope not.
    
    Misha God punishes countries that fall away from Him.  See how God punished yours, The age of wormwood. 
    
    This communist revolution that Misha talks about is not that far fetched either.
    
    
    
    I'm afraid you are wrong VENUGOPAL.  In another forum that I go to a member, obviously a communist, posted a web site that says this on one of it's pages.
    
    
    
    The web page ends with New York City and Los Angeles addresses of meetings to be held on Sunday, October 26, 1PM.
    
    I'm not going to post the link in here.  Some of you may already know what the addresses are anyway.
    
    The same person that posted the link that said the above also posted this in the same forum today.
    
    
    
    How despicably evil can they get.  So we now see their motive in plain view.
    
    On Oct. 1st the 3rd battalion was called back from Iraq in case the US needed to be put under Martial Law.  Now I understand why.  I hope they round everyone of them up.  Godspeed to the 3rd battalion.
    
    By the way VENUGOPAL I find this quote by you rather disgusting.
    
    
    
    The fact that there were 61,911,000 opponents that died doesn't say much for that system now does it?
    http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    Mr. Make Money's observations are interesting. If you go to a communist, he will say that revolution is coming. Their aim is to spread their policy in the society. They will certainly advocate a revolution. If power comes to their hands, they will certainly control, suppress and eliminate religious beliefs. As a true Christian, what do you say? Is it not your policy to spread your teachings to the society and eliminate atheism/ marxism / Leninism? You say that 6,191,1000 opponents to marxism were killed and they did not say anything against the communists. They were all killed. What would they have said before being killed? Only because they were not ready to accept the policies of Marxists. If everyone's dreams come true, there will be a vacuum.. because everyone  wish to eliminate opponents. What communists say is not important.. it is important how we react to our surroundings. If such a situation comes, as you fear, only feared ones will have to fear. None else.  The Egyptian former President Nasser said that he will through Israel in the Meditteranean waters. Did it happen?  A very small country can ensure its own survival till now.!.. Why not America and free world  ensure their survival against the communists?  I think America's 3rd battalian returned in the process of getting out of Iraq.  Every happening need not be taken to boost our fears.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Mike, if you did not notice, my reaction to this Indian guy post was *sarcastic*
    
    I can't help but being sarcastic about the figures you report and the source of those figures, too. I already pointed this out for you either higher in this thread or in another one, I don't remember.
    
    As for my moral decency - that were MY relatives who killed and were killed during those unfortunate times, not yours, and it is really none of your business and way beyond your intellectual and moral abilities to judge me on this.
    
    Now, try to look in your sources, what is the economic basis for communism? They will tell you - nationalization. Please, ask yourself, what happened to Fannie and Freddy? AIG? Where 700+ taxpayer billions will go? What is going to happen to GM? Let me help you. Correct answer is - nationalization... This is the Great American Communist Revolution in the working, Mike. Or National-Social, which does not really make any difference
    
    I leave your mention of Chernobyl alone, I don't really see any connection with the topic, other than an attempt to insult me - which failed.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    I thank Mr.Misha and Mr.Make Money for giving an interesting debate on communist rule in Russia. Communism is in our dreams only and coming to power is in their dreams only.
    We Indians have tasted such slaughters through centuries through ferocious barbarian muslim invaders.  (The present day muslims are all gentlemen).  May I point out one slaughter by an invading king?  When Nadir Shah came to India, he tasted defeat 16 times and in 17th time, he succeeded. He destroyed the Hindu temple on the shores of Gujarat coast, robbed all its gold, diamond and other jewellery and went back with sacks of gold on camel backs. There was no one left in the temple city after he left.  Another time, he went to Delhi and conquered it.  He captured more than a lakh Indian soldiers and tied them with chains. All the captured soldiers saw the king only on horseback in his royal robes. The victorious king went to the nearby river Yamuna, took bath and returned by walk. Seeing his handicapped legs, the soldiers could not control their laugh. He immediately ordered the slaying of the all the  prisoners. Just because the uncle of another invader was killed in battle, he ordered destruction to Delhi. Like this, Delhi was destroyed six times.... by various kings...  and it is now the 7th Delhi. The history of India is full of slaughter of Hindus by invading muslim kings.

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       Ralph Deedsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I was surprised to read this week that the Hindus are persecuting Christians in eastern Orissa in India. Christians are being told "Convert or die!" Religious extremism causes much mischief everywhere.

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          mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          There is no need to change your faith,
          And on your old religion lay a wreath.
          
          Why try and convert someone from his religion in the first place?

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    No VENUGOPAL the 61,911,000 victims were killed by their own government after the Russian Revolution had already taken place.
    
    No they are not just returning from Iraq as you can see in this video.
    Oct. 1st Military starts Martial Law Mission
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYxTzDFofZQ
    
    Thank you Zarm.  I was hoping that was the case but Misha didn't make it clear.  Do you agree with what Zarm said Misha?  Maybe I am confusing some of your posts and not recognizing the sarcastic ones.
    
    Misha I can see how you can call the 700 billion bailout a form of communism.  But the US government has actually done that before, not in such a large scale with the Lincoln S&L crisis of the early 1990s.  They got the tax payers money back with interest.  Today on the news I watched the CEO of Bank of America say their portion of the bailout will probably be paid back within 3 years, again with interest.  It's contrary to pure capitalism, I'd call it a form of socialism too.  This bailout basically shows that pure capitalism doesn't work without regulations just like we've seen that communism doesn't work, some have said because of a lack of initiative.  The middle of the road approach is much better in my opinion.
    
    But what that character posted about the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA in the other forum is a completely different thing.
    
    
    
    Yeah I heard that.  Burning Bibles too.
    
    Mike

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       Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Mike,
       I never said I am for communism. You should have misinterpreted me. Coming from former communist country I have a strong allergy for communism - and that's why I smell it coming here, too
       
       As for bailout - I am glad to be wrong on that, and this is actually a rare chance to see who is right in a relatively short period of time. I bet it becomes clear within the next couple of years where this country is heading - so we'll talk then, if we both are still alive and free

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          Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I'm glad to hear that.  I owe you an apology then.  Sorry Misha.  "allergy for communism", never heard it said that way before.
          
          Yeah I hear you about things becoming clear within the next couple of years.  It looks like Obama is going to get in, he seems kind of reasonable but you never know these days.  Lets hope for the best.

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             Zarm Nefilinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I have a strong allergy for communism as well, it is one of those things I retained a very healthy hatred and deep disgust for after I got out of the cult I was in.
             
             I also despise all forms of totalitarianism and the men and women who promote them.

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                Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Yeah it gives me the hives.

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       Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Apparently Naomi Wolf thinks this Martial Law Mission is for other reasons.
       
       Interview - Naomi Wolf - Give Me Liberty
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI
       
       Talk by Naomi Wolf - The End of America
       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    We are discussing here about religious persecution by previous rulers in history. That is state sponsored persecution.  Here in Orissa, India, religious skirmishes take place between tribals and recently converted christians. There is no original christian in India. All were converted some days, some months and some years before. Before the arrival of foreigners, more than two thousand years before, there was no religion in India. All were Hindus. The people engaged in religious fighting in Orissa are christian missioneries and tribals, who lived for centuries in their jungles. They cannot be taken as Hindus... only tribals. Because it happens in India, it need not be branded as Hindu-Christian fighting. It is purely India's internal matter.
    Be it christian or tribals, they are all Indians. Our infighting should not be viewed as persecution. The christians killed a Hindu priest and the tribal Hindus retaliated. The matter should not be coloured as you like.

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       All were Hindus- I am with you-why go to another country and try and change them telling them my God is better than yours. God is one and all religions lead to him.

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          VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you Mr.Mohit.  I thought I was alone; but we need not look for support as our intentions and proceedings harms no one...

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             mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             My pleasure Sivagna. peace and tolerance amongst the Religions.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    World opinion are erratic sometimes. Because they call themselves Christians, foreigners say they are being persecuted in Orissa. Then what can an illiterate tribe do when their priest is killed and the Govt. does nothing.. they take revenge naturally. The so-called christians have not informed all Indians that they are going to trespass into the jungles and build makeshift churches and inform their overseas patrons that they have built a church at a cost of .... xxx...
    Then why should we take notice of their plight?  Such illegitimate thing should be stopped first. Foreigners please dont pour money into India through local people. They never spend the money properly. Donors may come directly, recruit educated, civilised people into christianity and start preaching. Uneducated, uncivilised and erratic people need not be enrolled as christians. It can be called "displacement of satans" from one religion to other. In the case of Orissa, if a Hindu has trespassed into the jungles and built some huts, he would have been put behind bars for trespassing and disturbing communal harmony. Christians enjoy unnecessary privileges just not to antagonise other countries.

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       Zarm Nefilinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Sadly, I have read about the genocide you speak of.
       
       I am really sorry to hear that.

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    I guess this would be the Hindu priest?
    http://www.silobreaker.com/DocumentRead … _898571294
    
    Well I don't quite get this because there have been Catholic communities in India for just about 2000 years.  Mother Theresa did some good work in India without the need for conversions.  In fact a person that posts in this forum sometimes said Mother Theresa's order that helps the poor have grown considerably. 
    
    I sponsor a foster child in India.  He is Hindu but there is never any talk about converting him.  I do send him a prayer card occasionally with a picture of Jesus or Mary on it, but he wouldn't be able to read the prayer cause it's in English.  Should I stop sending him prayer cards?  I certainly wouldn't want to see him hurt because he has them.
    
    Why the violence now after all these years?
    
    Are you sure it's not a third party trying to cause strife between Hindus and Catholics?

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Violence is not the answer and it is wrong.

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    I just found this.
    
    Reported 10/16/2008 - Evidence concocted against Christians in murder of Hindu leader
    http://www.silobreaker.com/DocumentClus … _914083355
    Quote - "On Oct. 6 Orissa state police confirmed that Maoists killed Saraswati, a day after the chief of the Orissa unit of the banned Communist Party of India-Maoist, Sabyasachi Panda, told NDTV 24X7 news that his organization was behind the murder."
    
    I figured so.  It just did not make any sense to me that a Christian would kill a beloved Hindu priest in a mostly Hindu country.  If that was the case they would surely be asking for trouble.  I thought there had to be something wrong with this story.  A lot of Christians in India have been wrongfully persecuted for this.
    
    I just realized my foster child lives just south of Orissa.  It doesn't sound like the violence has stopped yet and is spreading to other areas.  Please pray that it stops soon.
    
    Mike

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       Andrew0208posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Mike, it's sad to see people spill the blood of their fellow beings in the name of religion thinking that they are defending their God. Minus Love any religion is empty and fruitless!

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    Who ever it may be.. those who started the trouble between Hindus and Christians are really criminals fit for legal action. But we will have to rely on the first story.. if and when another story comes, we should find out where is the black cat ..  Marxists/ comunists may be there.. but why did they have to kill a priest unless there is reason... Let the police enquire and decide... because I am a Hindu, I need defend a criminal.. Please, christians,  reciprocate..
    In my first comment to the HubPages, I praised the christians and faulted the Hindus for their imaginary faiths. That stands. 
    But whoever it may be,  whatever religion he comes from, criminal acts need not be tolerated. Be it Christians, Hindus, or Muslims.

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       dishyumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       That's all we have to do, not to show hatred for any community just because an individual(or some individuals) commited the crime

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    "but why did they have to kill a priest unless there is reason"
    
    I wouldn't doubt that it was a false flag operation.  You know, a 3rd group does the dirty deed knowing that a 2nd group will get blamed for it so the 1st group retaliates on the 2nd group.
    
    A false flag operation is hard to prove but it seems to be a common way to cause strife in this world these days.  You should do a Google search for 'false flag operation'.

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    knolyourselfposted 15 years ago

    http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/i … 4220081006
    Orissa arrests 2 Christians for Hindu leader's murder - Reuters India

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       Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       It sounds like the Christians confessed under torture knolyourself.
       
       http://www.onenewsnow.com/Persecution/D … ?id=285668
       Quote - "A representative of the Christian Legal Association told Compass that according to sources, the police had tortured the three Christians to pressure them to confess a crime they did not commit."

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    knolyourselfposted 15 years ago

    Somehow I knew you wouldn't except that. You can make anything up you want as you have been. But to get to the real story, which may not be possible from this distance, one may want to attempt some research. Seems like the Reuters article is a start. Personally I got other things to do.

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       Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       knolyourself the Reuters article is old news, Oct 6th.
       
       Even the Reuters article blames Maoist rebels.
       
       The Compass article is from Oct. 13th which was linked to the Oct 16th SoliBreaker article that I post yesterday.
       
       Straight from the horse's mouth.  Quote from Sabyasachi Panda, the chief of the Orissa unit of the banned Communist Party of India-Maoist.
       
       
       
       What more proof do you need knolyourself?
       
       
       
       What knolyourself, would you sooner see the violence continue?
       
       At least with the truth out there now it may stop.

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    knolyourselfposted 15 years ago

    Was in East Germany and Berlin myself, before the wall came down. Like going back in time about 200 years. No commercialism, clean and beautiful. Also knew some people who lived there. A working class guy from there liked it. Cheap rent which could never be raised, free medical and free education. Garanteed employment. He called it the good life.
    Another middle class guy, I said you going back to East Germany. Said yep - you should see the apartment I have. Personally when I left there, I kissed the ground. How embarassing. But 2 sides to every coin.

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    Yep, one side is Godless, the other is not knolyourself.
    
    Maybe you'd like it here, The age of wormwood.

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    knolyourselfposted 15 years ago

    Your whining gets a bit tedious. Have you nothing good to say about anything, except your own self absorbed righteousness.

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       Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Well how about this?  Some parts of socialism are good in all governments.  We wouldn't have our highways, bridges or a lot of our infrastructure if our governments didn't pool some of our money together to build them.  Canadians would not like to give up our universal health care system. 
       
       It wasn't long ago, back when there was such a thing as a solvent family farm that farming communities came together to bring in the hay.  Most traditional cultures worked around a socialist idea, even though the word socialism did not come into play.  A couple examples are the North American natives or the Scottish Highland clans.  The chiefs did not own the land.  The land was owned by the whole clan or tribe.  And the chiefs could be replaced.
       
       These are all good parts of socialism.  Personally I believe capitalism did in the family farm.  Now most farms in North America are run like a small corporation with big loans and big equipment.  And subsidies too even though NAFTA and the WTO was suppose to do away with subsidies.
       
       Capitalism supplies jobs (to most), initiative and to some extent ingenuity.  But I don't think the far right or the far left is good for any country.  Some where in between is the best I think.  Freedom of religion is a major factor with the majority.

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    marycon08posted 15 years ago

    Hatred for Muslims
    
    Muslims are people who believe in Allah their GOD. And Islam is one of the largest sect or religion in the world.
    As we all knew...more Muslims involved in terrorism and alike.
    Like bombing, suicidal attack... we see many innocent people died because of their wrong doings. This is not actually a plan of our GOD, even your GOD.
    Killing people is a mortal sin, and I think in every problems it could be done by a peace talks. Not like using harmful elements. GOD is not happy for this. He saw his children killing each other.
    
    One of my friend told me..never get involve in a relationship with Muslim people...and I said why? Because Muslims are really sweet to their love ones like girlfriend.. but in the end..they are like traitor, they blackmail you, when u decided to break him up. And they will definitely get back what was given to you. They like a traitor, yeah they are really sweet at very first but in the end..their true color will reveal. Once my friend was killed brutally shot at his heart and head and his body was taken so far away and found out in the place were Muslims manifest. He was allegedly killed by an ex bf of her gf. who was a Muslim.
    
    Some Muslims are nasty and they spit every where... and they are more prone into trouble.
    Miss understanding and a lot more... if your their enemy ..your lucky if you can still see the sunrise by tomorrow..but if not..your definitely a dead meat.
    
    But I think not all Muslims are like that....maybe some are good enough..those who have been educated and professionals.
    
    
    And the on going war in Mindanao Philippines is one of the evidence of a wrong doing of Muslim people, The Phil. President decline the MOA for resettlement because they don't follow the rules before it has been signed and permitted. I think that was been the bombing at any place in Philippines also they ambush military men... when the peace talks negotiation are on going. They look like traitor on that behavior .
    
    But I hope people will not tend to see that the on going war in Mindanao is not between Catholic and Muslim people. Its not about religion. ( * only in ARMM Autonomous Region  like Basilan, Julo Sulo, South Cotabato, Marawi, and some part which are been a Muslim area.) 
    Its about transparency and Democracy. Maybe Phil. government will be plain in their judgment.
    
    May this misunderstanding between the Muslim people will end.
    
    
    peace yoh

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       dishyumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       They just don't understand Islam, nor realise the value of humanity and love

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       sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Gosh, sounds a lot like a Christain too. 

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    knolyourselfposted 15 years ago

    Yo Mike - actually I lived in an extreme form of communism for 3 years. Free health care, free meals, mandatory employment, government subsidized amenities and allowances like movies, clothing, household, cigarettes, alcohol and gasoline, or haircuts; everything free or at reduced prices, and if you can believe it, the occasional anti-communist diatribe. The majority of the people there liked it and stayed 20 to 30 years, and were called lifers. It was called the US Army.

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       Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Okay I hear you knolyourself.
       
       But I thought you said you are a Christian Sandra.

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    AEvansposted 15 years ago

    We cannot blame the muslim religion or any other religion as nothing has been proving so we should stop pointing fingers and figure out all together what happened. There are extreme muslims that do not fit the traditional muslim beliefs so my recommendatin is to seperate the two.

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       Anamika Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I fully agree with you. No religious books preach violance.

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          mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Yes all religious or holy books teach love and tolerance.God is the light-god is love-One

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       VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       It is not easy to separate the two.. Because all extremist muslims hide behind pious muslims and religious affinity makes the pious one provide shelter to him. It is easy to preach.... Hard to practice.. For instance, some muslim terrorists got shelter in Hazratbal mosque in Srinagar, Kashmir, in early 1990s. They had to be taken out after applying several tactics. The terrorists even got an order from the Supreme Court on the menu of their meals..  Had the mosque not provided shelter, the army would have left it untouched.  Many of us want a broad mind.. but what to do ?  Our enemies decide what weapons we should take.

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    knolyourselfposted 15 years ago

    "I fully agree with you. No religious books preach violance." Do mean to quibble, but the bible is filled with violence, mostly the perpetrator being God. Hell and damnation seems pretty violent to me.

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       AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Oh Knoly, then what is it the churches are teaching? You answered the question.  The prophets wrote the infromation as they were fearful of God and he is "The Almighty" I do not believe God meant violence and it was taken out of context as he only wanted his people to do the right thing, that is why the 10 commandments were written. Hell and damnation are violent I agree but we have to place it in the right context, to understand what it is saying.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    Those who have a soft corner for terrorists are those who are not affected by them.  Emperor Akbar, who ruled Hindustan for 64 years founded a religion named "Teen-e-Ilahi". Its main principle is to place ourselves on the opposite side. Think yourselves as affected persons... then you will find the reason for all actions and reactions... This theory does not apply to those who initiate terrorism just for political / religious / regional / linguistic / or racial reasons. It applies to those personally affected by terrorism. Can we keep quite when a hungry tiger pounces on us?  Should we not kill it?

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Sounds like an enlightened ruler-do unto others as you would have others do unto you-Jesus

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          Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I seem to remember one of the early incarnations of the Buddha allowed a hungry nursing tiger to eat the flesh of his arm so that her cubs would not die. Is that not why Siddhartha's bride came to him in the colours of a tiger?

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             mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Sorry have no idea about this.

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                Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I'm not sure of the original source, but it is one of the stories in The Light of Asia, Edwin Arnold's epic poem about the live of Buddha. It's a good read.

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                   mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   Thanks for the info will look it up

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                      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      Sir Edwin Arnold 1832-1904, English author. After serving as principal of the government college in Pune, India.Interesting same place as me

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                         Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         Yes, that's the one. Although written by an Englishman, the book was widely acclaimed as a latter day masterpiece in Indian Buddhist literature.

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                            mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                            Thanks once again just downloaded it,will read it Have allways said the English have produced great minds

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                               mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                               Now I recall I have heard the name of this book

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                               Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                               I think you mean the Scots

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                                  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                         yes

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    Anamika Sposted 15 years ago

    Pakistans role on the Terrorist Attacks is now confirmed! What do those ba****** want from us?

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       India and Pakistan were brothers fifty years back,
       Today unto death each other they attack.
       
       These imaginary lines we draw,
       Just shows our brain is so raw.
       
       I want peace

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          mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I am against terrorist attacks and what happened in Mumbai yesterday.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    We should not totally blame Pakistan for todays blasts in Mumbai. There may be others also. (Why should not North Indians' hand to take revenge on Thackeray's "only Mumbai" policy?)
    If it is Pakistan, we can directly go to war with them.  Hesitation on our part makes us bleeding more and more.  There is no meaning in postponing an end to the most infamous "Two Nation Theory".  Let the people of so-called Pakistan also enjoy the fruits of freedom.

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    Anamika Sposted 15 years ago

    Why is that majority of Terrorists belong to the Religion of Islam or come from an Islam Country? Answers....anyone?

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       VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Because we have hostile neighbours of that religion.
       
       Also because India was instrumental in the creation of Bangladesh, which is the greatest loss for Pakistan.  They dont mind that Bangladesh people revolted against Pakistan and India only helped them in their struggle.

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       Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       You mean like Ireland, Germany, Georgia, Colombia and Sri Lanka?
       
       One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

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          VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          So, Mr.Mark okays terrorism. Freedom fighter will rest as and when his goal is achieved. But when will terrorist go to rest?

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             Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Mr Mark did no such thing Mr. VENOGOPAL.
             
             As usual you are too ignorant to understand a simple statement.

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                VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Justifying terrorism is also a sort of  terrorism. You think it wise to justify terrorism?

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                   Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   I never justified terrorism.
                   
                   Keep on using the word "terrorist," is also another form of terrorism. You seem to use it a lot.

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                      countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      Mr.Venugopal- Sir, That is a famous saying "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter". He must have just said that and by which Mark wasn't implying that acts of violence are justified.
                      
                      Mr.Mark- Sir, Yesterday in Mumbai we had blasts/violent activity and hence lots of Indians feel the hurt/pain hence maybe he felt you justified that sort of violence by that comment.
                      
                      Please excuse me if I have tried unnecessarily to intervene your conversation.

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                         VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         Countrywoman, by describing "terrorism in India is freedom fighter in another place", is he not justifying terrorism?  He seems to create mischief as and when he gets a chance. All who differs with him are ignorant for him. Let him be wise first.   
                         But... I have forgotten. You are in USA and have an obligation not to show yourself too much as Indian.  But here are a billion Indians to protect your home country.

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                            weblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                            Sorry to interrupt, you should see this:
                            
                            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/9581
                            
                            Countrywomen is a nice human being and doesn't fail to prove a true Indian

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                               countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                               Weblog - Thanks for that link to support me. Whether someone believes me or not of the pain I suffer due to this inhuman violent acts but in my heart I know what I feel.

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                                  weblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                  Welcome

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                                  VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                  Sorry, if I have hurt that countrywoman.  She is my fan. 
                                  As she has called for prayers, I pray and offer my deepest condolences for the lost lives of Indians and foreigners in Mumbai.

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                                     VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                     Sorry, countrywoman is not my fan. I mistook it for Ms.Anamika.

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                                        countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                        Sir, I went to your profile to check and saw even my fan mail which I sent a while ago. I guess you were mentioning whether you joined my fan club or not. In that case it is fine with me. You are free not to be a fan of someone who you feel "undermines" Indians. Hopefully in the near future with my words I prove otherwise. Till then I apologize for hurting your sentiments.

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                                           VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                           I again reiterate that You are not my fan or otherwise.  I think the words "unified" and "annexed" are not far away.  However, leave it there.  How can I be hurt, if you make a different statement about our nationhood?  On behalf of patriotism only, I said I was hurt. I was never personally hurt by anyone... even when I was repeatedly called "ignorant" by some ignorant people. We are just discussing certain things without even seeing personally.  I need not be hurt for that. It is also for you... please.

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                                              countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                              Sir,
                                              My Dad served in the Indian Navy as a Judge(JAG branch) for 30 years and my dad's younger brother is still serving in Air Force and when someone considers me less patriotic than that makes me more sad than anything said personally. I was mentioning about the contribution of a great freedom fighter like Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel and used the word "united" which is the same word used in the second line in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardar_Vallabhbhai_Patel
                                              
                                              I guess I still have a lot left to prove that I love my India and would do so till the last breath left in my life. But having said that if certain words of mine aren't conveying my feelings than I apologize for those words.
                                              
                                              Sincerely,
                                              CW

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                                                 VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                 Madam, you are a true Indian. My good wishes to your IAF uncle. My uncle was in the Indian Army during Bangladesh war on the Tripura-Bangla border. 
                                                 I cannot find anything wrong in mentioning about VallabaiPatel's unification process.  The timing of your mention was like that. When they said Kashmir was annexed by force by India, you said this.  Wikipedia and all that are for them only. Our martyrs will seem as traitors for some.  We must rely on books written by Indians only when arguing about India. Let it be.  Pray for a long life to you.

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                                                    countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                                    Sir,
                                                    Wikipedia is generally considered unbiased but anyway thanks for your blessings.

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                            countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                            Mr.Venugopal if someone calls you "ignorant" do you become one and if you call me "wise" do I become one. I am what I am irrespective of whether you consider me a idiot or a wise woman.
                            I would like to say that "you can take me out of India but you can't take India out of me".  Only 4 years back I came to US as a student and now working here hence I do have the same sentiments as any other Indian. There is nothing that stops me from showing to others who I am (Indian) in USA. And I sincerely apologize for anything I have said that has caused you any pain. Good Bye and Have a great day Sir.

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             dingdongposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Dear Venu, remember what I was saying about LTTE..?
             
             Anyway, I don't see anything serious in Mark's statement, he doesn't seem like talking about current terror attacks in India. I simply express my opinion, if you are going to complicate it more it's upto you

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                VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Ms.ding, LTTE seems to protect Tamils in Srilanka and seems to be freedom fighters. Dont compare LTTE with muslim terrorists, who have a grand design on India.   Foreigners are wise enough to create mischief as and when they have a chance.  We are ignorant enough to fail to understand the realities. That is the problem with Indians.

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                   dingdongposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   Again, misunderstood...see, I was not comparing. It was related to Mark's statement - Lankan tamils' freedom fighters(LTTE) are terrorists in Indian govt. viewpoint...get it?

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                      VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      What about Tamilnadu Govt.?  Are they not Govt.?

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                         dingdongposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         Venu -
                         We are talking about Countries, with referrance to Mark's statement.
                         
                         
                         
                         Tamilnadu is a state, the discussion here is not about states.
                         
                         I don't understand why do you always make things complicated. Don't you know TN govt. is also against LTTE? What are you trying to prove here?
                         
                         I hope you won't take me again to those silly arguements to give me an anti-tamil label that you were trying for in Politics forum!

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       countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Anamika - Those people who kill innocent people aren't following the quran where such terrorism is condemned hence they can't even be considered as muslims. This is exactly the reaction those terrorist want us to have. They want to spread ill will among the major communities. Let us not distrust our fellow muslim brothers because of a few deranged individuals.

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          Anamika Sposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I know. You are absolutely right, Those ba****** does not have any religion. I do not think the religion of Islam support terror activities either.

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             countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I hope things will  return  back to normalcy soon.

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    lionswhelpposted 15 years ago

    You can be sure Satan the devil is in the details to make one group of humans to hate another.
    
    Take 911, here is a great way to start a war. Blame it on the Moslems, blame it on Osama Ben Laden , blame it on Sadam Husseine. Its the same old blame game of the New World Order. Communism - Stalin- Marx - Lenin = Fascism -Hitler- Mussolini = Bamm War
    
    911 was an inside job by El Queda ( a made up name of non-Moslems) - Fascism = Hate Moslems the new Patsies for the NWO.
    
    Lionswhelp

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    Ms. web, I am deeply hurt for my own remarks about countrywoman. Excuse me.  I could not forget what she once said about Kashmir's accession to India. My present remarks are suitable for that only.  She said that  "India was made up of more than 500 small kingdoms before Independence and Vallabai Patel forcibly annexed them."  What would have happened if those were not unified?  Countrywomen may read about Italian unification by Majini and Garibaldi and German unification by Bismarck. Is it correct to undermine ourselves during a debate?  Please treat my present remarks for those comments.

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       countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Sir, I never used the word annexed and was responding to a question in that context when Make Money had a question about our history.
       
       
       "Mike- Till India got Independance from Great Britain it was actually having more than 500 kingdoms. Sardar Vallabhai Patel united the whole of the country under the Republic of India."
       
       I am proud to be an Indian and will never undermine our struggle for Independence. I once again apologize if I came across as undermining our freedom struggle. Anyway I will check if I joined your fan club or not and if I have not then I will join your fan club since you tend to remember me since a long time..hehe.

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          Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Countrywomen.  I'm sorry to see that just by posting a reply in a thread in the Political forum it has caused you a bit of grief.  Your post helped me understand things more as I'm sure was your intentions.  By reading your posts in these forums, myself and it looks like many others admire your outlook on life.  You seem to have a nice calming effect.
          
          Thanks
          Mike

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             countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Mike - Since my dad was judge he always insisted on having an impartial view about looking at things/views/perspectives as far as possible. I maybe wrong on this but there is a general perception that the history of India that is presented by the western authors may sometimes tend to undermine Indian History and glorify the British Rule. And to set that perception right there have been Indian authors whose books are also supposed to be read to get a balanced perspective. My own knowledge about History goes back to our school history classes and certain books like "The Discovery of India" by Jawaharlal Nehru and so on. To a certain extent I have forgotten (the things I learnt earlier in school/books) and thanks to the opportunity given by gentleman like you I get to refresh it. I am also thankful to Mr.Venugopal for his active participation and insights in these forums.
             
             I agree since I don't know so much about our history as Mr.Venugopal and also I may have said things not within the right context or in a way that mustn't have been very clear to others. I accept my shortcomings and will try to do better job of communicating in the future. I sincerely try to give the most honest perspective as far as I can but I still may fail. I seek forgiveness for any wrong information or misleading perspectives as and when they originate from my words. I am still learning and have miles to go.....
             
             Sincerely,
             CW

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       weblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Ok, I didn't know that and I can't comment on it as I was not there in the discussion you are referring to here. I think Countrywomen has the better answer now

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    For countrywoman:  In America, you are the daughter of India.  When difference comes between America and India, you should support America only. For issues not concerning America, you should prove your Indianness.  Pray for a successful life in America.

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       countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Sir,
       
       My parents have instilled in me the values to speak the truth no matter where Iam or what the consequences are. I also admit many a times I have been wrong in my assessment and have promptly apologized for the same. But I do take my stand based on Principle and not on individual circumstances. Thanks a lot for your good wishes and it's blessings from elders like you that has helped me succeed so far in life. Please forgive me if I have been disrespectful in anyway to you sir.
       
       Sincerely,
       CW

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    Countrywoman,  Please check up in wikipedia how the present day Britain, USA, Italy, Germany, and Soviet Union were unified using force.  I tried to post a detailed comment on these and the "delete button" had its way.  India existed emotionally from time immemorial and we had to get all the places in it.  It does not mean they were forcibly unified.  The RSS did its job in some places, but did not use force. We can be proud of being unified. We can be more proud if the left out portions also are unified.

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       countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Mr.Venugopal - I agree with you that from the time immemorial there was "bharat varsh/ hindustan" and even when the british took over from the Mughals there was a India. But being totally as one nation under a single Indian constitution as a modern democracy was shaped by certain great freedom fighters. Do you have a reliable alternative source (links) which I can use to validate my understanding of Indian History as and when I am in doubt.
       
       Sincerely,
       CW

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          VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          There are several informative books, which I will collect and send it for you shortly.  For the time being, you can trace out "Discovery of India" written by Jawaharlal Nehru in bookshops there.   On "reliability" issue, we have and should rely on our forefathers and not foreigners. 
          
          Indian philosophy  includes Budhism also.  That held sway over the whole of east and south-east Asia for more than 2000 years.  When foreigners come to our way, why should we go to their ways?  Even now, several English people come to Hindu temples and pray god with us. Thin should stick with thick and not otherwise.

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             countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Sir,
             
             I am looking forward to that list from you. In our house in India we have that book by Nehru.  By the way sir if you don't mind can I add that not all foreigners have written biased accounts their have been a few who have written with a balanced perspective. And their maybe a few Indians who present things with their own agendas. Sir, I apologize for having said those words which maybe hurting  but that is how my dad has raised me.
             
             Sincerely,
             CW

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                VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                CW.  Happy to note that your father brought you up in the best way. 
                Two views never coincide.  The right will finally win. 
                The history of a nation will be fair and true, if it is written by that countryman.  It will never be fair if another countryman writes it...that too by those who ruled us.  And no one writes a third country's history, if it does not relate to them in any way.  (I have not written any country's history; and I wish all to read our history through books written by our authors.) 
                Howeve, better go your father's way.

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    Anamika Sposted 15 years ago

    Thank God, The Battle of Terror in Mumbai ends. I only hope that we would be more careful and cautious hereafter.

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       countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       The battle may have ended but the recovery process is going to be a slow and a painful one for many of those people who have gone through these troubled days.

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    Anamika Sposted 15 years ago

    Mumbai is back to normal now. But the statement in the newspaper about the Terrorist who have been captured angered me. He is reported to have said that he hoped to go back to his country Pakistan and that he had been told that Muslims are ill treated in India.
    
    After having done so much damage to us, did those Terrorist Organization heads think that they could go back unharmed? Or were they giving false hopes to the Terrorists?
    
    Muslims are treated with respect in India ever after several incidents were men belonging to the Religion of Islam turned out as Terrorists because we have faith in our Indian Brothers.
    
    I have nothing against the religion of Islam. If anyone is responsible for the terrorist activities it is
    1) The Parents of the Terrorist who did not infuse the value of the religion and humanity in him.
    2) The Terrorist Organization Heads who brainwash innocents for their own selfish deeds.

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I have many friends who are Mulsims and are peace loving,nothing close to being a terrorist.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    Muslims are part and parcel of Indian society, we think. It is correct. But we should not fail to read them carefully.  Some pretend to support us.  But no Muslim will act against another (in India).  If no muslim gives protection to them, they will never dare to set foot on our soil. 
    In Mumbai also, the attack - plan was hatched by two muslims who came from Indonesia and colluded with a friend of Dawood Ibrahim in Mumbai.  Another local helped them with boarding facility. They planned to attack US consulalte in Mumbai from sea.  The local informed the police, fearing that their intentions were horrific and will hurt him also. He was later killed in an accident. (Times of India / 3-12-2008)
    Let us be friends with them as far as they are friendly.  Let us not continue it when they differ.

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    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years ago

    December 9, 2008.    It was Bakrid.  My father, 92 years old died in a village in Vellore District of South India. His body was taken in procession to the burial ground. On the way, there are muslim houses and a mosque.  Several muslims came to the streets and bid farewell. Some women put their cloths (sarees) on the streets as a mark of respect to the deceased.  It was wonderful.   After seeing these things, how can we hate muslims?   
    There are criminals, terrorists, etc. in that community. But each should be dealt separately as per law.  We need not be enemies to that religion as long as they attack our religion.

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       countrywomenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I am so sorry to hear that. May your father's soul rest in peace. May God give you strength to endure the pain of separation from your father.
       Yes few individuals may not be good but we should always treat the overall Muslims with love and kindness. Maybe your departed father's last gift to his son was to bring love into his heart for everyone which since then you feel for all Muslims.

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       weblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       I was wondering as there was no recent activity from you on hubpages, I feel sorry for your great loss.
       
       
       
       Exactly

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       JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          My tribute to him!

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          Ralph Deedsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Count me in as well!

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          apekshaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Oh! I too agree with u I have written on this issue before ,...
          All people are different with nature..
          I found so may Muslims helping me and they have very great pleasure to welcome guests...
          I have visited Dargah also...
          Allah never says that u r Hindu don't come n pray and I prayed there as I pray to my God not by Namaj..
          so dont hate Muslims...hate terrorists...

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             andromidaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I agree with both of you.I think this kind of hatred is going on
             for centuries yet there are a few elements in the society who hate some particular religion people like Muslims,Jews etc due to the misdeed of a few inhuman people.I think those who are responsible for terrorist attacks around the world do not belong
             to any particular society or religion and not even have any human values.
             
             Not a single religions teach us hatred and all the world religions speak for peace and harmony.So, we find that its
             our lack of understanding which give us false impression
             about some particular religion and in this case the general
             Muslims are victim of hatred.

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                apekshaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Nothing like we made them victims but all over the world..so many Muslim terrorists only are creating terrorism.
                No other religion is doing such things so Muslims should act against such people from their community...

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    dingdongposted 15 years ago

    Terrorist is an extremist, an inhuman criminal. It's so simple. Don't give them religious identities, I think the same rule applies to supporters of terrorists

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       VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       - - dingdong never fails to ring wherever I go.  I appreciate it.  Keep it up.

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          dingdongposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          You hear it from me wherever and whenever it's appropriate in forums, otherwise it's not like dingdong follows Mr.Venu
          
          Anyway, thanks for the appreciation

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    Make Moneyposted 14 years ago

    I agree countrywomen.  We can't believe everything a country says, no matter what country.  These days we have to take all information like a grain of salt, not believing anything unless it can be verified by multiple sources.

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       Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       As if it was not that way before LOL

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       countrywomenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Well it is easy even for me to say but when it comes to practicing it even I have been guilty of trying to believe what I want to believe. Anyway I am 26 now and maybe eventually I will learn to accept reality as it is instead of what it should be (at least that's what I am trying).

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It is not just Muslims who are terrorists. What about invading a country and destroying it's major cities and infrastructure as America did in Iraq, killing thousands of their children. It would certainly radicalize me if it happened in my country. Fundamentalist religiosity is the enemy of all mankind.
    America and the "willing" are also to blame for the increase in terrorism, and my country Australia is a part of the problem too.

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