marinealways24 wrote:
sandra rinck wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
I agree to an extent. I have one question, if someone was raised fighting dogs to think it was ok, would they still know it was wrong? I am not covering Vick, it was a sick act. I have 2 dogs myself. Just trying to see what he could have been thinking or not thinking being a millionaire risking everything.Oh but you brought up a good point about breeding. Perhaps you could so how this applies to the human mind too.
I think I see what your getting at. Maybe that some animals do a better job of rasing the young than a lot of humans do. That is an excellent point if thats what you were getting at.
I would like to add, most human minds have a choice to act as a human or an animal. How many animal minds have the choice to act as a human mind?
OH!!!! You haven't met Oliver yet.
You are gonna love this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6NkRUbI38
-edit- I just found this too... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Z0xn4p … re=related
sandra rinck wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
sandra rinck wrote:
Oh but you brought up a good point about breeding. Perhaps you could so how this applies to the human mind too.I think I see what your getting at. Maybe that some animals do a better job of rasing the young than a lot of humans do. That is an excellent point if thats what you were getting at.
I would like to add, most human minds have a choice to act as a human or an animal. How many animal minds have the choice to act as a human mind?OH!!!! You haven't met Oliver yet.
You are gonna love this.![]()
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C6NkRUbI38
-edit- I just found this too... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Z0xn4p … re=related
Ok, I will give it to you, Oliver is pretty cool. I don't know if I would call him the missing link because he walks like a human. I read that the chimp is 98.6 percent the same as us. Why didn't Oliver have the 1.4 percent? Why are there no chimps that are 99 or 99.5 the same percent as us? I also do not see why he is the only one of his kind. Why wouldn't there be more?
The mind of humans are far superior than that of animals, but sometimes humans thinks worse than animals why, since were on the top of the food chain, some humans abuse nature by polluting the only planet we live in, illegal logging, etc. and slaughter endangered animal species for their meat,skin, fur or just for the fun of doing it.
GeneralHowitzer wrote:
The mind of humans are far superior than that of animals, but sometimes humans thinks worse than animals why, since were on the top of the food chain, some humans abuse nature by polluting the only planet we live in, illegal logging, etc. and slaughter endangered animal species for their meat,skin, fur or just for the fun of doing it.
Especially illegal lodging ![]()
Misha wrote:
GeneralHowitzer wrote:
The mind of humans are far superior than that of animals, but sometimes humans thinks worse than animals why, since were on the top of the food chain, some humans abuse nature by polluting the only planet we live in, illegal logging, etc. and slaughter endangered animal species for their meat,skin, fur or just for the fun of doing it.
Especially illegal lodging
generalhowitzer wrote>>> yeah it is nyahahaha, thanks for the remarks hehehe i deserve your teases though, i crossed the line and im sorry for it, im letting the moderator get rid of the thread i made earlier with. thanks for showing me the way, i overlooked the forum rules but i think you're getting harsh i posted in your fanmail sorry already. i'm still new here please give me the benefit of the doubt sir.
Are you giving any benefit of the doubt to animal minds?
Go read this, can come as a shock to you
http://hubpages.com/hub/Bow-and-Literacy
And no, this has nothing to do with your spam thread, just illegal lodging was too good to let it pass ![]()
Misha wrote:
Are you giving any benefit of the doubt to animal minds?
Go read this, can come as a shock to youhttp://hubpages.com/hub/Bow-and-Literacy
And no, this has nothing to do with your spam thread, just illegal lodging was too good to let it pass
I have to say, I am still not a believer. This still does not explain the 1.4% difference.
Every species is elite from their own point of view.
lain wrote:
Every species is elite from their own point of view.
I don't know about that. What about an animal running from a hungry tiger? I don't think the animal running would be thinking it was elite.
marinealways24 wrote:
What are the differences in the animal mind and the human mind? Why is the human mind elite to all other known life?
That's what we humans think.
Ask an animal and he might say this....."An idiot is a genius to another idiot." ![]()
Very interesting discussions. I especially enjoyed the tangents into OBE's, astral travel, etc.
Re: animal vs. human minds. Aya's Hubs on Bow's progress with language are really amazing. Similar studies have been done by Irene Pepperberg and her African grey parrots, and Louis Herman with dolphins. In Louis Herman's studies, he was able to show that dolphins understand syntax. If I'm remembering the article I read correctly, the dolphin was able to distinguish between the sentences "Take the trainer to the surfboard" and "Take the surfboard to the trainer." Irene Pepperberg's parrot Alex could be handed a simple item he'd never seen before and be able to correctly identify what it was made of (wood, paper, etc.) what color it was and even what shape.
Personally, I have anecdotal evidence of animals planning for future events. When I was training animals, I worked with a man who had trained killer whales and he related a number of stories about these animals that were pretty impressive. For example; they trained all the whales on a 'retrieve.' Basically the animals were trained to go find anything in the pool and bring it back to the trainers. Park visitors were always dropping things into the pools, seagulls would drop things; big pools, lots of water, detritus ends up on the bottom. Instead of suiting up and scuba diving for it, they'd send the whales to get things.
The use of the 'retrieve' signal was randomized; it might be given six times a day, it might not be given for three days. Whenever the signal was given all the whales, except one, would race around the pool, looking for something to bring back to the trainers. The one, a female, would always make a beeline for one spot in the pool, then race back to the trainers with her item for her reward. What they discovered, was this one female killer whale was stashing things she found in the pool into an outflow pipe. So she had a supply of items to take back when the 'retrieve' signal was given.
This whale had to have enough rational thought to be able to conceive that:
1. The 'retrieve' signal would be given again at some point in the future.
2. The trainers would be giving a reward for completing the 'retrieve' behavior.
3. If she was able to complete the 'retrieve' she would get the reward.
4. If she didn't have to search the pool she would get the reward faster.
5. If she stored things she found in the pool, she'd have a supply for when the 'retrieve' signal was given.
That's pretty advanced thought for an animal. Wait...people have already pointed out, we're all animals.
Human mind is worst in almost all cases and animals which are not wild are very innocent.
Today I lost one of my baby kitten so I can say the doctor was very worst..
sandra rinck wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
sandra rinck wrote:
Cause it's in your head.
Explain
Prolly cause humans are the only ones to make this distinction based off assumptions.
I don't know if I would call it elite.
Seems to me that all the other animals communicate just fine yet humans have a very hard time understanding anything.
I think animals fight lesser than humans.They don't much developed intelligence except a few, that makes them instinctive by nature.Sometimes I feel they also might fall in deep love with other species.
Misha wrote:
Jewels wrote:
Misha wrote:
K, nobody wants to teach me flying, guess it's time to hit the sack
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Night everybodyHappy flying Misha. It starts with attempting to stay conscious between the waking and sleep state. Practice that first. There is a transition phase between the two. Then if you catch yourself moving upward don't panic, stay conscious. Report back when you've reached this phase.
Thanks Julie, will give it a try.
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Am I supposed to do this when going to sleep or when awakening? Or even somewhere in between?
Both Misha. Going to sleep is the most common time. But to master it try both ends of the sleep experience.
Apeksha, sorry about your kitten. Pam and I currently have 3 cats and a gecko.
I didn't have time to read ALL the replies (should have paid more attention in that Evelyn Wood Speed Reading course) but do have a couple of thoughts in my elite brain:
1. No difference in minds that we can see. Our pets AND wild animals from birds to desert grassland whiptail lizards communicate with us every day, making sure Pam knows she has their love and support when she is deepest in pain. They learn, have their own individual boundaries, express love and sometimes hate/jealousy/envy just like other people.
2. It's not really our minds that allow us to drive cars. It's our opposable thumbs. In addition to which, our cat Harvey (when he was alive) DID drive our U-Haul truck, even took it out of gear and stood with his front paws on the steering wheel as it began to roll down a slight grade in a truck stop parking lot.

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