Knowing the bible.........
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Sanctus Vesania wrote:
I just read in the hub in general, to which I disagree with; but any Christian would know that the name of the Judas that betrayed Jesus was Judas ISCARIOT. Not Judas Thomas.
Now, here's a question to see if you can walk your own talk.
Who is Lucifer?A non-existent entity perpetuated by religion.
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Misha wrote:
RKHenry wrote:
Misha wrote:
Who? You? Looks like that
Misha instead of insulting IE, why don't you try reading her hub first and staying on topic. Or you just being YOUR typical self? Get a life Misha.
I am just returning a shot. Sort of showing my protection of a new girl on the block, trying to win her attention.
Misha, you playing around again.
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beth811 wrote:
A person who is of different faith from yours will automatically reject or make fun of you on what you knew about the Bible. Ignore them!
That's not true.
If you don't understand LIFE, then you will form your faith based on fantasy and not reality.
To have faith in something 100%? Philosophy says- "you can not overlook your own consciousness, conscience and sub-conscious, with something that is non-existent".
That means the human consciousness, in combination with your conscience and sub-conscious, you can NEVER 100% believe or back, something that is not real.
It's impossible. Your individual consciousness doesn't allow you to 100% believe in anything that isn't real. No matter how much your mind says it is. DEEP inside there will always be doubt.
That is precisely why christians attack so much. They are trying to reinforce their own belief as factual, when reality says different.
Sorry to be the one to tell you, but this is fact. Accept reality, control over your life and be done with the false 'god' you worship. 
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Sanctus Vesania wrote:
\Brenda Scully wrote:
Sanctus Vesania wrote:
You're quite welcome!is it satan???
Nope!
K, Don't stone me for this, I have not studies the bible or gone to church for years... so I am a little rusty, I think Lucifer is a latin? word for "Morning Star" and when some guy was translating one of the psalms, he used the word Lucifer and it stuck as the "name for Satan" though actually the passage has nothing to do with Satan??
Close? or no cigar... my feelings won't be hurt in any way... like I said... haven't studied it in years and don't care to.
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Cagsil wrote:
beth811 wrote:
A person who is of different faith from yours will automatically reject or make fun of you on what you knew about the Bible. Ignore them!
That's not true.
If you don't understand LIFE, then you will form your faith based on fantasy and not reality.
To have faith in something 100%? Philosophy says- "you can not overlook your own consciousness, conscience and sub-conscious, with something that is non-existent".
That means the human consciousness, in combination with your conscience and sub-conscious, you can NEVER 100% believe or back, something that is not real.
It's impossible. Your individual consciousness doesn't allow you to 100% believe in anything that isn't real. No matter how much your mind says it is. DEEP inside there will always be doubt.
That is precisely why christians attack so much. They are trying to reinforce their own belief as factual, when reality says different.
Sorry to be the one to tell you, but this is fact. Accept reality, control over your life and be done with the false 'god' you worship.I control my own life and I choose to beleive because I want to believe what I think is truth.
I guess we will all know when we die.
If I'm wrong, I won't exist. If I'm right, I'll be in heaven. Either which way I don't lose.
If I didn't believe and there was a God, the consequences when I die for not beleiving is scary.- 90
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Hunting Videos wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
beth811 wrote:
A person who is of different faith from yours will automatically reject or make fun of you on what you knew about the Bible. Ignore them!
That's not true.
If you don't understand LIFE, then you will form your faith based on fantasy and not reality.
To have faith in something 100%? Philosophy says- "you can not overlook your own consciousness, conscience and sub-conscious, with something that is non-existent".
That means the human consciousness, in combination with your conscience and sub-conscious, you can NEVER 100% believe or back, something that is not real.
It's impossible. Your individual consciousness doesn't allow you to 100% believe in anything that isn't real. No matter how much your mind says it is. DEEP inside there will always be doubt.
That is precisely why christians attack so much. They are trying to reinforce their own belief as factual, when reality says different.
Sorry to be the one to tell you, but this is fact. Accept reality, control over your life and be done with the false 'god' you worship.I control my own life and I choose to beleive because I want to believe what I think is truth.
I guess we will all know when we die.
If I'm wrong, I won't exist. If I'm right, I'll be in heaven. Either which way I don't lose.
If I didn't believe and there was a God, the consequences when I die for not beleiving is scary.So, bottomline is that you chose out of fear of what happens after your already dead?
Does that make sense?
When you die- dude, your dead. There is no after life or life after death. And, the only reason you think that there is - is because the 'bible'(created by man) told of 'god's will'.
Religion- only exists because YOU and others refuse to accept full responsibility for your entire life.
You are only suppose to believe in things that are real. If you think it's real isn't good enough. You will always have a doubt- that doubt is your consciousness, conscience and sub-conscious tell you it's not real.
Deep down- you know it has NO REAL substance. It's hope for something better that reinforces your belief.
When the truth is- YOU make your own life- You are in CONTROL of your own existence. It is up to you to put FAITH in yourself, to guide yourself with a purpose and live life. 
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Thing is, Cagsil, there's just as much "proof" for your stance as there is for the Christian stance. How can you prove that there's no afterlife? How do you know? And you may want to say the burden of proof is on me. But it's not. Why? Because of what you just said -- "YOU make your own life- You are in CONTROL of your own existence. It is up to you to put FAITH in yourself, to guide yourself with a purpose and live life." Concerning the way I perceive the world, it's ultimately about what I believe in; it goes the same with your world. I'd venture to say you'd ride with the following stance, and you may correct me if I'm wrong: you believe Christianity is a mere myth because of the inconsistencies amongst Christians and the "holes" in the belief system. I believe there's too much order for Christianity to not be valid.
I mean, let's get a lil scientific, if you don't mind. Concerning the visible spectrum of the universe (just the visible spectrum, not the entire universe), it is 266,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilometers in diameter -- that's 266 sextillion kilometers for you math buffs out there. Outta all that space, the earth and the sun happened to be positioned in the perfect placement within inches to sustain life -- if the earth was a few inches closer to the sun, we'd burn up; vice-versa, we'd freeze. Evidence of that is the dynamics of the earth's weather -- it can 100 degrees Fahrenheit somewhere (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Arizona, etc.) and -100 Fahrenheit somewhere else (e.g., Antarctica). And outta all that space, I'm supposed to believe that just happened? That seems quite illogical to me. And don't even get me on the electromagnetic fields that are in place that keeps the earth from just flying out into its own orbit somewhere in space . . . And we're just talkin bout the earth -- it gets even more illogical to me when you factor in the other celestial bodies out there (e.g., planets, stars, asteroids, meteors, etc.) that the earth could be colliding with.
Christianity isn't set out to make sense anyway; it's set out to make faith -- two different things. I think the only way to verify it is similar to a recipe -- follow the recipe, bake the cake, taste it, and if it comes out the way it said, ya know ya got it. Most Christians don't even know the recipe, so we don't even have to talk about following it. Your stance is about as correct as me saying knives are evil because somebody took one and butchered their entire family with one. There's so many more useful things you can do with a knife, but it all falls on the user. So just because certain folks may rep Christianity wrong doesn't make Christianity wrong. You've gotta judge the belief system by the actual Source, not the flawed folks who claim to follow the Source.
We just have to be willing to admit there are some things beyond our understanding. So how can I take my limited reasoning and say something as audacious as there's no such thing as the afterlife? What? Just because I don't understand it -- there's already a plethora of things out there I don't understand, so who's to say the afterlife thing isn't just another one of those? I don't understand how a brown cow can eat green grass and produce white milk. But somehow it happens.
Best wishes.lgolden1911 wrote:
Thing is, Cagsil, there's just as much "proof" for your stance as there is for the Christian stance. How can you prove that there's no afterlife? How do you know? And you may want to say the burden of proof is on me. But it's not. Why? Because of what you just said -- "YOU make your own life- You are in CONTROL of your own existence. It is up to you to put FAITH in yourself, to guide yourself with a purpose and live life." Concerning the way I perceive the world, it's ultimately about what I believe in; it goes the same with your world. I'd venture to say you'd ride with the following stance, and you may correct me if I'm wrong: you believe Christianity is a mere myth because of the inconsistencies amongst Christians and the "holes" in the belief system. I believe there's too much order for Christianity to not be valid.
I mean, let's get a lil scientific, if you don't mind. Concerning the visible spectrum of the universe (just the visible spectrum, not the entire universe), it is 266,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilometers in diameter -- that's 266 sextillion kilometers for you math buffs out there. Outta all that space, the earth and the sun happened to be positioned in the perfect placement within inches to sustain life -- if the earth was a few inches closer to the sun, we'd burn up; vice-versa, we'd freeze. Evidence of that is the dynamics of the earth's weather -- it can 100 degrees Fahrenheit somewhere (e.g., Saudi Arabia, Arizona, etc.) and -100 Fahrenheit somewhere else (e.g., Antarctica). And outta all that space, I'm supposed to believe that just happened? That seems quite illogical to me. And don't even get me on the electromagnetic fields that are in place that keeps the earth from just flying out into its own orbit somewhere in space . . . And we're just talkin bout the earth -- it gets even more illogical to me when you factor in the other celestial bodies out there (e.g., planets, stars, asteroids, meteors, etc.) that the earth could be colliding with.
Christianity isn't set out to make sense anyway; it's set out to make faith -- two different things. I think the only way to verify it is similar to a recipe -- follow the recipe, bake the cake, taste it, and if it comes out the way it said, ya know ya got it. Most Christians don't even know the recipe, so we don't even have to talk about following it. Your stance is about as correct as me saying knives are evil because somebody took one and butchered their entire family with one. There's so many more useful things you can do with a knife, but it all falls on the user. So just because certain folks may rep Christianity wrong doesn't make Christianity wrong. You've gotta judge the belief system by the actual Source, not the flawed folks who claim to follow the Source.
We just have to be willing to admit there are some things beyond our understanding. So how can I take my limited reasoning and say something as audacious as there's no such thing as the afterlife? What? Just because I don't understand it -- there's already a plethora of things out there I don't understand, so who's to say the afterlife thing isn't just another one of those? I don't understand how a brown cow can eat green grass and produce white milk. But somehow it happens.
Best wishes.
All of these scientific explanations do not default to Christianity being valid. Christianity falls flat even with those scientific measurements. There are a lot of things that we don't know, but to presuppose that the default is Christianity is...well a 266 sextillion kilometer leap of faith.
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IntimatEvolution wrote:
I wrote a hub about Christ and his siblings. I mentioned a certain brother of Jesus Christ's named Judas Thomas. Clearly stated his name was Judas Thomas. I cannot believe all the idiotic messages I've received from Christian's trying to inform me about how wrong I was, and that Judas Thomas was "Christ's Traitor!"
First and foremost- their is more than 1 Judas mentioned in the bible. Got it? Secondly- why are so many Christians extremely ignorant on their own belief system?
Yes IGNORANT!!! Over 90% of comments I receive about something religious I've written, the commenter doesn't have a clue about who, what, when, or why- but that doesn't stop them from spreading HATE, PLUS INCOMPLETELY WRONG information. Why don't Christians start studying the bible they claim to love, and read; to become better aware of their religion they are following? I don't get it. So the conversation I'd like to have here is; WHY don't YOU know more about the bible you pretend to be worshiping with?My guess... because 'they' got to them before they had a chance to read it for themselves.
From experience, I know that often times the minister, priest or what have you, suggest not reading it but listening to them instead.
Because they are told how to believe, what to believe, and how to think. They are set on a path.. a mindset that is immovable because they have been told that doing so would land them in hell or worse, their parents beat them, disown them and all sort of heinous things.
I would also say that 98% of those people who call themselves Christians have never read the Bible and if they have, then they were told before hand what they are to believe about it.
That and they are just plain lazy, don't care enough about knowing that they believe but would rather hop on the bandwagon of blind faith and ride the tidal wave to destruction.
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lgolden1911 wrote:
Christianity isn't set out to make sense anyway; it's set out to make faith -- two different things.Well, I can agree with this bit.
The garbage about there being just as much proof for christianity as anything else?
Deary me. Rather cancelled out by the previous statement about christianity not making any sense.
Christianity makes no sense, therefore it is just as likely as anything else? Oops.......
Where did this crap about "if you cannot disprove it, it must be true come from?"
And the burden of proof is NOT on the one making the unsubstantiated claims? LOL
Yet it is all about FAITH not PROOF? LOLOL
Meaningless drivel.- 94
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Evolution Guy wrote:
lgolden1911 wrote:
Christianity isn't set out to make sense anyway; it's set out to make faith -- two different things.Well, I can agree with this bit.
The garbage about there being just as much proof for christianity as anything else?
Deary me. Rather cancelled out by the previous statement about christianity not making any sense.
Christianity makes no sense, therefore it is just as likely as anything else? Oops.......
Where did this crap about "if you cannot disprove it, it must be true come from?"
And the burden of proof is NOT on the one making the unsubstantiated claims? LOL
Yet it is all about FAITH not PROOF? LOLOL
Meaningless drivel.lolol, yes. Not even faith makes sense.
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sandra rinck wrote:
Evolution Guy wrote:
lgolden1911 wrote:
Christianity isn't set out to make sense anyway; it's set out to make faith -- two different things.Well, I can agree with this bit.
The garbage about there being just as much proof for christianity as anything else?
Deary me. Rather cancelled out by the previous statement about christianity not making any sense.
Christianity makes no sense, therefore it is just as likely as anything else? Oops.......
Where did this crap about "if you cannot disprove it, it must be true come from?"
And the burden of proof is NOT on the one making the unsubstantiated claims? LOL
Yet it is all about FAITH not PROOF? LOLOL
Meaningless drivel.lolol, yes. Not even faith makes sense.
Well - I heard the funniest one today:
"God died for you." - 94
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Evolution Guy wrote:
Well - I heard the funniest one today:
"God died for you." Timeless. - 27
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sandra rinck wrote:
Evolution Guy wrote:
Well - I heard the funniest one today:
"God died for you." Timeless. And strangely...........
Frightening.
There is no question that everybody should read the bible. However, we should all understand that in reality not everybody reads it. We all have our individual reasons for doing or not doing something. I suggests that you can quote bible verses to support your hub. In this way, your readers can better identify and relate to your articles. Have a great week!
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TINA V wrote:
There is no question that everybody should read the bible. However, we should all understand that in reality not everybody reads it. We all have our individual reasons for doing or not doing something. I suggests that you can quote bible verses to support your hub. In this way, your readers can better identify and relate to your articles. Have a great week!
Hard to think of a more hate mongering and vile book than the bible. Why would you say everyone should read it? In reality - there is no more hate filled a book than the bible which has skewed our thinking for too long. The sooner we dispose of this disgusting work - the better.
Have a wonderful Week yourself! 
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TINA V wrote:
There is no question that everybody should read the bible. However, we should all understand that in reality not everybody reads it. We all have our individual reasons for doing or not doing something. I suggests that you can quote bible verses to support your hub. In this way, your readers can better identify and relate to your articles. Have a great week!
Really ??!!
I read the Bible twice.
the first time I thought it was mildly interesting.
The second time, I couldn't cope with all the lies and flaws !- 59
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Evolution Guy wrote:
lgolden1911 wrote:
Christianity isn't set out to make sense anyway; it's set out to make faith -- two different things.Well, I can agree with this bit.
The garbage about there being just as much proof for christianity as anything else?
Deary me. Rather cancelled out by the previous statement about christianity not making any sense.
Christianity makes no sense, therefore it is just as likely as anything else? Oops.......
Where did this crap about "if you cannot disprove it, it must be true come from?"
And the burden of proof is NOT on the one making the unsubstantiated claims? LOL
Yet it is all about FAITH not PROOF? LOLOL
Meaningless drivel.What I implicitly said was there's as much proof concerning the afterlife existing as there is proof that the afterlife doesn't exist. Afterlife being hogwash is just as unsubstantiated as the afterlife being true.
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TINA V wrote:
There is no question that everybody should read the bible. However, we should all understand that in reality not everybody reads it. We all have our individual reasons for doing or not doing something. I suggests that you can quote bible verses to support your hub. In this way, your readers can better identify and relate to your articles. Have a great week!
You should also read the Bhagavad Gita, the Koran, the Talmud, the Vedas, etc. and anything else you can think of if you want to get a balanced understanding of God. If you don't, then don't pursue it.
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Evolution Guy wrote:
sandra rinck wrote:
Evolution Guy wrote:
Well - I heard the funniest one today:
"God died for you." Timeless. And strangely...........
Frightening.It is frightening.
