SHARIA LAW.
51- costa-rhymer
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Lord Phillips the most senior judge;
in both England and Wales,
Has said Sharia law could play a part
if our legal system fails.
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My faith in the English judiciary has
been turned over, it's almost dead,
Has the old become an Imam,orjust gone
completely soft in his aged head ?
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Sharia law is absolute and de rigeur in
all of the islamic lands,
But subject to extreme interpretions
by some subversive firebrands.
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In England if moslem pratice islam they
have an absolute freedom of choice,
However written into our British laws
would not be a cause to rejoice.
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England has already lost many of it's
original traditional democratic rights,
Such remarks from the most senior in
the judiciary; public outcry ignites.
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80- Rehma Jamshed
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I never found any harm in adopting something from someone else if it can do you good.
But then again, thats only my opinion!Does Sharia law do anyone good? I really think people need to read these ten parts of Sharia law before just saying "oh, if its good for them than great..."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/08/ … ia_is.html
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Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
...then how do you explain the Muslim-ruled, extremely successful and long-lasting Ottoman Empire?
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sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
Oh, the irony.
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egiv wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
...then how do you explain the Muslim-ruled, extremely successful and long-lasting Ottoman Empire?
It's fine . . . if you're a guy
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egiv wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
...then how do you explain the Muslim-ruled, extremely successful and long-lasting Ottoman Empire?
I don't think contributed anything like advances in upper level math that came out of the middle ages. I'm referring to advances in technology and learning.
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livelonger wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
Oh, the irony.
Do you ever have anything constructive to contribute to any conversation?
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sneakorocksolid wrote:
livelonger wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
Oh, the irony.
Do you ever have anything constructive to contribute to any conversation?
Absolutely. The fact that you don't think so doesn't surprise me.
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
I agree. You see, this is the 21st century and any outmoded law that a group of misguided fanatics which to FORCE upon a perfectly democratic and modern system is what I call insanity. It's like inviting the Inquisition rules back or the Puritan laws back - this is crazy. Whether we like it or not, this is the 21st century. Let's get REAL. Let's make a better world if we can without having to contrain or FORCE the "medieval" laws... please!
Madame X wrote:
egiv wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
...then how do you explain the Muslim-ruled, extremely successful and long-lasting Ottoman Empire?
It's fine . . . if you're a guy
Maybe...but I'm a guy, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't make me one bit happy!
Ghost32 wrote:
Madame X wrote:
egiv wrote:
...then how do you explain the Muslim-ruled, extremely successful and long-lasting Ottoman Empire?It's fine . . . if you're a guy
Maybe...but I'm a guy, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't make me one bit happy!
I am not a guy but like Pat Condell, I like my beer too much.
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Ghost32 wrote:
Madame X wrote:
egiv wrote:
...then how do you explain the Muslim-ruled, extremely successful and long-lasting Ottoman Empire?It's fine . . . if you're a guy
Maybe...but I'm a guy, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't make me one bit happy!
That's cuz you're a real guy - not some whiney little boy who has to strut his stuff over women to feel like he's a man
people defend Sharia courts operating in Britain by saying that they are only used by people who choose to go to them and can't enforce anything on people who don't choose to go to them. But the problem is that many muslim women will feel a great deal of social pressure to use these Sharia courts and to opt out of British law, even though they know that as women these courts will discriminate against them.
As Sharia courts are open about the fact that they discriminate in favour of men, and as sexual discrimination is against the law in Britain, I can't see how you can defend a system which effectively makes breaking the law a legal requirement.- 80
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It all comes down to jurisdiction - again. Sharia law could never take precedence in the UK if the UK didn't let it.
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sneakorocksolid wrote:
egiv wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Look prior to islam the arab and persian people were some of the only greatest contributers to human knowledge. After islam came to be they became locked into the middle ages and still wallow in antiquated beliefs and customs. islam ruined them and I doubt they will ever recover.
...then how do you explain the Muslim-ruled, extremely successful and long-lasting Ottoman Empire?
I don't think contributed anything like advances in upper level math that came out of the middle ages. I'm referring to advances in technology and learning.
There were great centres of learning all over the Middle East. The entire Renaissance was built upon the knowledge of Islamic scholars - maths, philosophy, medicine, physics, geography - it was a Golden Age for knowledge, whilst Europe was still stuck in superstition and fear. Wikipedia has a reasonable entry about this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
I will happily concede that things went a little downhill after 1500 - the Taliban are not exactly known for their contribution to world knowledge!
To the OP - you are over-reacting a little. The suggestion was in issues of marriage and mediation. English and Welsh law would still take precedence over Sharia. Everybody is welcome to use laws pertaining to their particular religion, but they do not override the laws of the land.
EDIT: Sorry, Madame X - you beat me to the second part of the reply!
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I guess a lot of it is similar to the Catholic Churches stand on not allowing female priests. Many Christian denominations view women as less than men.
A religious law should never replace a civil one.- 80
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Uninvited Writer wrote:
I guess a lot of it is similar to the Catholic Churches stand on not allowing female priests. Many Christian denominations view women as less than men.
A religious law should never replace a civil one.Catholicism is centuries ahead of Islam in rights for women - but they are still losing followers for their stance on female priests. I don't think there is any real comparison of the two in today's society.
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Uninvited Writer wrote:
I guess a lot of it is similar to the Catholic Churches stand on not allowing female priests. Many Christian denominations view women as less than men.
A religious law should never replace a civil one.Agreed, although I would not like to see the Catholic Church 'forced' to accept women as priests (much as I personally do not agree).
Such things are always a grey area
