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Catholics really believe in this stuff ? The Pope does too. Amazing !!

  1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
    quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago

    1st Timothy 2:

    13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

    14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    Why would the Apostle Paul need to explain that Adam was formed first and then Eve? Don’t we all know this? But the Church at Ephesus was taught a lie about this. This lie is much like the lie in the Catholic Church today where it is taught that “Mary, the mother of Jesus was born without original sin, hence it was her divinity which was passed on to Jesus…”

    Since Catholicism teaches that Mary is the Holy Spirit, hence they conclude that “Mary is the author of Jesus” like the lie that they taught about Eve being the author of Adam.

    This is why in 1st John 4:3 (KJV) we have the litmus test for identifying the Spirit of Antichrist. John says “every spirit which does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, this is that spirit of Antichrist…”

    What does this verse mean? The word “flesh” here is the Greek word “sarx” and it means “carnal, sensual.” This means that Yeshua our Messiah had a corruptible nature “physically” which he inherited from his mother Mary. But his spiritual nature was “incorruptible” because he had the blood of his Heavenly Father in his veins. Yeshua had to possess both natures at the same time in order to be the perfect sacrifice. He had to have a corruptible nature “physically” so that he could destroy sin in the flesh (Romans 6). But he also had to be sinless, having an incorruptible spiritual nature at the same time. If he had sinned, his blood could not have atoned for us. He had to be a male lamb without blemish according to the Torah.

    We can see how this cult from ancient Babylon has been duplicated today in the Catholic Church with the deification of Mary the mother of Jesus.

    The Holy Spirit fertilized Mary’s egg producing a human body for Jesus. But the blood came from the Heavenly Father. We can even read this in Zechariah 12:10 where Yehovah says “they will look upon ME whom they have pierced and they will mourn for HIM as one mourns for his only son.” This means that it was Yehovah’s blood that was in Yeshua when he died for us on the cross!

    And so why did I go down this rabbit trail? I am trying to show that Yeshua our Messiah was the one who is Eternal and he is the one who created Mary, Mary did not create him!

    Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    Yeshua created Mary, not the other way around. But the Roman Catholic Church teaches that Mary was sinless and divine, and eternal. They call her the “Queen of Heaven” just like the Babylonians called Semiramis the “Queen of Heaven.” Roman Catholicism hence denies that “Jesus Christ is come in the flesh” (having a corruptible physical nature) and this is the very essence of the Antichrist Spirit!

    You see, Catholicism teaches that Mary’s conception in her mother’s womb was “immaculate” and that she was born without original sin from birth making her divine. This very doctrine known as the “Immaculate Conception” is the crux of the Spirit of Antichrist. If Mary was born without original sin, then she is eternal and a goddess like Venus, like Diana, like Isis, Semiramis, Asherah, Easter and all the other pagan goddesses whom she embodies as a reincarnation according to paganism. Many Protestants think when they hear the term “Immaculate Conception” that this is about the virgin birth of Yeshua Messiah, but it is not! It is about Mary’s conception without original sin, making her divine and eternal. This would then lead to the lie that says “Eve conceived Adam” or “Mary conceived Jesus.” The Catholic Church teaches that “Mary is the Holy Spirit and that he can only work through her.”

    Pope John Paul II gave a speech in Lithuania in 1993 showing that the Catholic Church believes that Mary is the Holy Spirit!

    Time Magazine comments in September 1993’s issue: “according to modern Popes” Mary is “the Queen of the Universe, Queen of Heaven, Seat of Wisdom…..”

    In the Pope’s September 1993 speech in Lithuania, he spoke of Mary as “Mother of the Church, Queen of the Apostles, and dwelling place of the Trinity”! Pope John Paul finalized his speech by saying, “To Mary I entrust all of you….” His final petition was a prayer to Mary:

    “Hail, holy Queen of heaven, Mother of Mercy! Our life, our sweetness, and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us: and after this our exiles show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus: O clement, loving sweet Virgin Mary.”

    This is complete blasphemy! Colossians 3:4 declares that Jesus Christ is our life---not Mary.

    1st John 2:1 declares that Jesus alone is our Advocate with the Father!

    According to Soul Magazine, the official publication for The Blue Army of Our Lady of Fatima,“Mary is so perfectly united with the Holy Spirit that he acts only through her, his spouse…all our life, word and deed is in Her hands…at every moment, She herself must instruct, guide, and transform each one of us into Herself, so that not we but She lives in us, as Jesus lives in Her, and the Father in the Son.”

    According to the Roman Catholic Church, Mary has replaced the Holy Spirit as teacher, guide and part of the Trinity!

    Now we can understand why Paul had to go to great lengths to deprogram the way that the Ephesians were taught. He had to re-establish the order of things that had been perverted by the Babylonian Mystery Religion of Diana Artemis.

  2. Cagsil profile image91
    Cagsilposted 2 years ago

    All religion is a farce.

    Yes, even the pope knows it's not real.

    His enlightenment has come and gone, why do you think he is the pope?

    Those who breakthrough to enlightenment, which means that they see through the hoax of religion, are appointed to higher positions to perpetuate the overall agenda of controlling the masses.

    Centuries old idea, still working very strong today.

    1. underhiswings profile image50
      underhiswingsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Enlightenment?
      Break through?
      What about it?

      1. Cagsil profile image91
        Cagsilposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        The self-realization that there is NO GOD and that we are our own authority. We answer to no one.

        1. underhiswings profile image50
          underhiswingsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Everyone is entitled to a perception of an illusion that leads to delusion.

          1. tantrum profile image76
            tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Like christianity and judaism

            1. underhiswings profile image50
              underhiswingsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Plenty of it in those "religions" too, it's all over the place today and getting worse.

              1. tantrum profile image76
                tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                What's your religion ?

                1. underhiswings profile image50
                  underhiswingsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  I do not have one and I fit in no box.

                  1. tantrum profile image76
                    tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                      so where do you fit ? in some pit ?

          2. Cagsil profile image91
            Cagsilposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            An illusion? that leads to delusion?

            Care to explain.

            1. underhiswings profile image50
              underhiswingsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              No need to as the comment was obviously aimed at yours.

    2. tantrum profile image76
      tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Those who breakthrough to enlightenment, which means that they see through the hoax of religion, are not in the system. they're individuals. They wont teach you the truth. they know better.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      The *New Enlightenment*,Ding, is poop.

  3. tantrum profile image76
    tantrumposted 2 years ago

    the catholic trinity is the kabbalistic Kether, Chokmah and Binah. Being Binah the female part of the deity.
    all symbols. So catholics believing in virgin Mary comes from the esoteric part of ancient christian rituals. Yeshua /jesus being Chokmah. And the personification of an almighty , Kether.
    what the Pope believe is irrelevant as the catholics don't understand anything due to their  indoctrination.  they have Faith.
    If you believe in the messiah, Good, but you have to understand the deep insight of it.

    1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
      quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      You left out the other 7 big_smile

      1. tantrum profile image76
        tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        They're not relevant here. Anyway I don't talk about kabbalah with people i don't know. big_smile

        1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
          quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I know they are not relevant here...I just wanted to pull your chain. lol

          Your analogy is okay but I am wondering where the Catholics are?

          1. tantrum profile image76
            tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17432.gif

            1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
              quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe they are off  http://planetsmilies.net/eat-drink-smiley-5160.gif  http://planetsmilies.net/eat-drink-smiley-7853.gif   http://planetsmilies.net/eat-drink-smiley-5182.gif  someplace ?

              1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image100
                mistyhorizon2003posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                OMG Q&T, that is great, loved the graphics. smile

                1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
                  quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Hey you never post in here Misty!

                  1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image100
                    mistyhorizon2003posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    LOL, no not normally, too many arguments and heated debates for my liking, but this time I couldn't resist as the emoticon type images were so funny. smile

          2. glendoncaba profile image92
            glendoncabaposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Kabbalah info is all over internet.  Same old same old occult.  Distracted Jews from pure religion in Babylon then and now.

            1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
              quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              So do you have a reply to the OP ?

              1. glendoncaba profile image92
                glendoncabaposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                I am learning to pick my fights carefully.  This one I will sit out. You r rocking a powerful boat.   

                Stick to facts and biblical theology.  I don't believe they say Mary is Holy Spirit.

                1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
                  quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  "Your rocking a powerful boat."
                  "Powerful"?

                  Only ONE has Power.

                  1. Cagsil profile image91
                    Cagsilposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    But does anyone know why the "church" is whistling a different tune?

                  2. glendoncaba profile image92
                    glendoncabaposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Yea and he has given us power to preach gospel.  Win souls with gospel.  When we share in appropriate forum we reveal the pagan traditions of Christian religion which we seek to eradicate with Word of God, the Bible.

                    http://www.mostamazingprophecies.com/Ab … fault.aspx

                    HubPages religion forum is like a sore thumb in an otherwise rational platform, and is only at peace when it functions like a social networking site; a feel good chatroom for groupies, yuppies and relativists. 

                    For a bit of drama, the usual suspects will argue and insult, but I have decided to avoid divisive religious issues here.  I will post links where you can see truth from Bible and history.

                    http://www.discoveries08.org/episode-12-high-quality

                    But what is your goal?  Win souls or win arguments?  For the Catholics have no defence here, just mea culpa. Whats the point.  We already know the evils of middle ages.  HubPages forum not in my opinion the place to ventilate the details.

                    But if you feel the Spirit is calling you to this fight go right ahead.

            2. tantrum profile image76
              tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              not the real one. That one is not in the internet

              1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
                quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                I think you got yours from Carlos lol

                1. tantrum profile image76
                  tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  lol who Menem ? :lol

                  1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
                    quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Santana

            3. tantrum profile image76
              tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe you listen to Madonna too much big_smile

              1. glendoncaba profile image92
                glendoncabaposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Mad on...who? smile

  4. tantrum profile image76
    tantrumposted 2 years ago

    @ quietness
    When i was a child, Virgin Mary was not the Holy Ghost. the HG was God's spirit. The spirit which embodied in Mary to deliver God's child.
    But you said catholics believeV.Mary to be the HG. did it changed recently? or you got it all wrong ?

    1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
      quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Well according to what I posted that is what the leaders think.
      The Pope sure does. I have heard this before too and they do believe she is the queen of heaven and they do pray to her and think she had a miraculous birth.

      1. Cagsil profile image91
        Cagsilposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        But then again, they can never really be assured of anything.

      2. tantrum profile image76
        tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        the miracolous birth ,yes. It has always been, but i didn't know they say V Mary is the holly ghost. Are you sure ?

        1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
          quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          According to Soul Magazine, the official publication for The Blue Army of Our Lady of Fatima,“Mary is so perfectly united with the Holy Spirit that he acts only through her, his spouse…all our life, word and deed is in Her hands…at every moment, She herself must instruct, guide, and transform each one of us into Herself, so that not we but She lives in us, as Jesus lives in Her, and the Father in the Son.”

          Pope John Paul II gave a speech in Lithuania in 1993 showing that the Catholic Church believes that Mary is the Holy Spirit!

          Time Magazine comments in September 1993’s issue: “according to modern Popes” Mary is “the Queen of the Universe, Queen of Heaven, Seat of Wisdom…..”

          In the Pope’s September 1993 speech in Lithuania, he spoke of Mary as “Mother of the Church, Queen of the Apostles, and dwelling place of the Trinity”! Pope John Paul finalized his speech by saying, “To Mary I entrust all of you….” His final petition was a prayer to Mary:

      3. glendoncaba profile image92
        glendoncabaposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Does not make her Holy Spirit.

        And I'm not Catholic.

  5. tantrum profile image76
    tantrumposted 2 years ago

    ok but she's united to the holy spirit. She's not it, even if it seems to you. It's difficult to understand as all catholic doctrine is. when they say Mary is the queen of Heaven etc. that comes from ancient esoteric meanings with respect of Binah. in the begining  the Church,  was very close to judaism, as all their memberes were jews. something catholics tend to forget.

  6. quietnessandtrust profile image79
    quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago

    "Queen of heaven" ?

    She is queen of nothing except the Catholics.

    1. Lisa HW profile image95
      Lisa HWposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      If it's true that Jesus was more than "just a good guy" then you have to admit it only makes sense to believe his mother must have some special "pull" with God too.

      st John 2:1 declares that Jesus alone is our Advocate with the Father!

      Some believe this.  Others think other people who have walked the Earth have also been "advocates for the Father".  That's the whole thing about the different religions - everybody believes something different.

  7. quietnessandtrust profile image79
    quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago

    The Catholics have left the building ?

    http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17489.gif

    1. atomswifey profile image88
      atomswifeyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      LOL

  8. quietnessandtrust profile image79
    quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago

    Where is Make Money Mike? Can't believe he says nothing?

    1. tantrum profile image76
      tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      nothing to say to all your nonsense big_smile

      1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
        quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        you mean truth lol mad

        1. tantrum profile image76
          tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Yes. your truth is nonsense. you should explain it better big_smile

          1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
            quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            I wrote a thousand words and you still don't get it?
            Read it again Hobo Kelly lol big_smile

            1. tantrum profile image76
              tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              lol you said Virgin Mary was the Holly ghost. Well ,she's not

              1. quietnessandtrust profile image79
                quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Well I know that but they do not.

                1. tantrum profile image76
                  tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  so why confuse people.? what's your point?

                  1. tantrum profile image76
                    tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    You said it was a fact of catholic religion

                  2. quietnessandtrust profile image79
                    quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    The point is to let people know what the leaders of the Catholics believe.
                    They have a lot of secrets they hide from the followers.
                    Mary was only a person and should not be prayed to or be given equal place with God.

  9. quietnessandtrust profile image79
    quietnessandtrustposted 2 years ago

    Already did.

    1. tantrum profile image76
      tantrumposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile How sweet big_smile

 
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