British Court Says "God is a Racist"
In Britain, as in many other countries, it is illegal for any organisation to discriminate based on race, and Jewish schools have fallen foul of this law because they only accept Jewish people, and they define whether or not you are a Jew in the Orthodox manner - based on whether your mother is Jewish rather than based on your actual beliefs or religious observance - which British courts have recently rule to be racial discrimination and therefore illegal. See the full story on the BBC new wesbite here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8325901.stm
The chief Rabbi in Britain has complained that this basically amounts to an accusation that God is racist.
Personally I can't help thinking that the whole 'chosen people' thing, along with a religion that defines its membership by enthnicity, really is quite racist, and that the Jewish God must therefore be a racist. But I know this will be a massively controversial thing to say, so please let everyone know your opinion about this.kephrira wrote:
In Britain, as in many other countries, it is illegal for any organisation to discriminate based on race, and Jewish schools have fallen foul of this law because they only accept Jewish people, and they define whether or not you are a Jew in the Orthodox manner - based on whether your mother is Jewish rather than based on your actual beliefs or religious observance - which British courts have recently rule to be racial discrimination and therefore illegal. See the full story on the BBC new wesbite here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8325901.stm
The chief Rabbi in Britain has complained that this basically amounts to an accusation that God is racist.
Personally I can't help thinking that the whole 'chosen people' thing, along with a religion that defines its membership by enthnicity, really is quite racist, and that the Jewish God must therefore be a racist. But I know this will be a massively controversial thing to say, so please let everyone know your opinion about this.I'm going to be a lot more controversial! I think that the world without religion would be a lot more safer and peaceful - most wars are due to religion, and if you simply look at Hubpages, most 'hateful' arguments are down to religion.
SimeyC wrote:
kephrira wrote:
In Britain, as in many other countries, it is illegal for any organisation to discriminate based on race, and Jewish schools have fallen foul of this law because they only accept Jewish people, and they define whether or not you are a Jew in the Orthodox manner - based on whether your mother is Jewish rather than based on your actual beliefs or religious observance - which British courts have recently rule to be racial discrimination and therefore illegal. See the full story on the BBC new wesbite here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8325901.stm
The chief Rabbi in Britain has complained that this basically amounts to an accusation that God is racist.
Personally I can't help thinking that the whole 'chosen people' thing, along with a religion that defines its membership by enthnicity, really is quite racist, and that the Jewish God must therefore be a racist. But I know this will be a massively controversial thing to say, so please let everyone know your opinion about this.I'm going to be a lot more controversial! I think that the world without religion would be a lot more safer and peaceful - most wars are due to religion, and if you simply look at Hubpages, most 'hateful' arguments are down to religion.
I'm inclined to agree with you.
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I agree ... SimeyC... But then with that 100 stuck on your forehead... You can pretty much demonstrate your point anyway you wish... Good on You
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I agree ... SmilyC... But then with that 100 stuck on your forehead... You can pretty much demonstrate your point anyway you wish... Good on You
LOL thanks! Just having the 100 on my head doesn't mean I actually make sense when I write - it just means I can write a lot LOL and can get traffice to my hubs!
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kephrira wrote:
In Britain, as in many other countries, it is illegal for any organisation to discriminate based on race, and Jewish schools have fallen foul of this law because they only accept Jewish people, and they define whether or not you are a Jew in the Orthodox manner - based on whether your mother is Jewish rather than based on your actual beliefs or religious observance - which British courts have recently rule to be racial discrimination and therefore illegal. See the full story on the BBC new wesbite here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8325901.stm
The chief Rabbi in Britain has complained that this basically amounts to an accusation that God is racist.
Personally I can't help thinking that the whole 'chosen people' thing, along with a religion that defines its membership by enthnicity, really is quite racist, and that the Jewish God must therefore be a racist. But I know this will be a massively controversial thing to say, so please let everyone know your opinion about this.Man differentiates , not god,
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SimeyC wrote:
Pearldiver wrote:
I agree ... SmilyC... But then with that 100 stuck on your forehead... You can pretty much demonstrate your point anyway you wish... Good on You
LOL thanks! Just having the 100 on my head doesn't mean I actually make sense when I write - it just means I can write a lot LOL and can get traffice to my hubs!
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Most wars and arguments are down to people, religion is just the banner they use to justify it. Without Religion I am sure wars and arguments would continue !
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Is any of this surprising? A large part of religion seems to be a strong belief that my god is better then your god!
My feelings are more spiritual and I tend to think that my god is the same as your god and we have just given this force different names.HealthTip wrote:
Most wars and arguments are down to people, religion is just the banner they use to justify it. Without Religion I am sure wars and arguments would continue !
and so would racism - but is that an excuse to allow religious organisations to be institutionally racist?
HealthTip wrote:
Most wars and arguments are down to people, religion is just the banner they use to justify it. Without Religion I am sure wars and arguments would continue !
That's a fair point - religion is perhaps used to justify the war 'Kill the infadels' etc. - warmongers will find other ways to justify war.
Religion is used that way though for many things - it the 'banner' used to spread hatred - in 99% of cases the religion does not condone or inspire the hatred...man does that all by himself!
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This is the kind of situation that I would not want to happen here in the US, the government steps in to define what religious practice is acceptable.
Right now in the US gay activists are trying to redefine marriage to include same gender unions and this would be a problem for conservative religions. The last thing I want is for my government to be involved in any religious practice whatsoever.- 78
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HealthTip wrote:
Most wars and arguments are down to people, religion is just the banner they use to justify it. Without Religion I am sure wars and arguments would continue !
Very true.
Flightkeeper wrote:
This is the kind of situation that I would not want to happen here in the US, the government steps in to define what religious practice is acceptable.
Right now in the US gay activists are trying to redefine marriage to include same gender unions and this would be a problem for conservative religions. The last thing I want is for my government to be involved in any religious practice whatsoever.Some Muslims believe that it is their religious duty to destroy the west and either kill or subjugate all infidels. Just because something is based on a religious belief doesn't mean it shouldn't have to follow the same rules as the rest of society.
kephrira wrote:
Flightkeeper wrote:
This is the kind of situation that I would not want to happen here in the US, the government steps in to define what religious practice is acceptable.
Right now in the US gay activists are trying to redefine marriage to include same gender unions and this would be a problem for conservative religions. The last thing I want is for my government to be involved in any religious practice whatsoever.Some Muslims believe that it is their religious duty to destroy the west and either kill or subjugate all infidels. Just because something is based on a religious belief doesn't mean it shouldn't have to follow the same rules as the rest of society.
The key word here is 'SOME' - there are billions of muslims in this world that have no desire to destroy or kill 'infidels' - it's the 'SOME' that spoil it for the rest. If you go back to the dark ages when British Knights were 'spreading' Christianity - it was exactly the same....
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kephrira wrote:
Flightkeeper wrote:
This is the kind of situation that I would not want to happen here in the US, the government steps in to define what religious practice is acceptable.
Right now in the US gay activists are trying to redefine marriage to include same gender unions and this would be a problem for conservative religions. The last thing I want is for my government to be involved in any religious practice whatsoever.Some Muslims believe that it is their religious duty to destroy the west and either kill or subjugate all infidels. Just because something is based on a religious belief doesn't mean it shouldn't have to follow the same rules as the rest of society.
The key word here is 'SOME' - there are billions of muslims in this world that have no desire to destroy or kill 'infidels' - it's the 'SOME' that spoil it for the rest. If you go back to the dark ages when British Knights were 'spreading' Christianity - it was exactly the same....
I agree entirely, this wasn't meant to be an attack on Islam any more than the main topic of the thread was meant to single Judaism out as a bad or nasty religion. This was just a way of demonstrating my point with one of the most extreme contemporary examples.
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kephrira wrote:
Flightkeeper wrote:
This is the kind of situation that I would not want to happen here in the US, the government steps in to define what religious practice is acceptable.
Right now in the US gay activists are trying to redefine marriage to include same gender unions and this would be a problem for conservative religions. The last thing I want is for my government to be involved in any religious practice whatsoever.Some Muslims believe that it is their religious duty to destroy the west and either kill or subjugate all infidels. Just because something is based on a religious belief doesn't mean it shouldn't have to follow the same rules as the rest of society.
It is a problem however when the rules are such that it is basic to a religion's identity. You mention Muslims who believe their duty is to destroy the west; this is an extremist belief not a basic tenet of being Muslim is it not? Why include an extremist belief as part of Muslim identity?
Flightkeeper wrote:
kephrira wrote:
Flightkeeper wrote:
This is the kind of situation that I would not want to happen here in the US, the government steps in to define what religious practice is acceptable.
Right now in the US gay activists are trying to redefine marriage to include same gender unions and this would be a problem for conservative religions. The last thing I want is for my government to be involved in any religious practice whatsoever.Some Muslims believe that it is their religious duty to destroy the west and either kill or subjugate all infidels. Just because something is based on a religious belief doesn't mean it shouldn't have to follow the same rules as the rest of society.
It is a problem however when the rules are such that it is basic to a religion's identity. You mention Muslims who believe their duty is to destroy the west; this is an extremist belief not a basic tenet of being Muslim is it not? Why include an extremist belief as part of Muslim identity?
I don't see the distinction - whether something is a fundamental part of a religion or whether it is a fringe belief is just a function how many people believe it - not about whether it is right or wrong, acceptable or unnacceptable. In many cases things are a fundamental part of a religion simply because they have been around for so long - which often means that they are based on ancient moral systems which don't fit very comfortably with modern values and morals.
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kephrira wrote:
HealthTip wrote:
Most wars and arguments are down to people, religion is just the banner they use to justify it. Without Religion I am sure wars and arguments would continue !
and so would racism - but is that an excuse to allow religious organisations to be institutionally racist?
Jewishness was never looked as institutionally racist before. This is fairly new. I look at this as another way to attack Jews in Europe and this is disgusting.
Flightkeeper wrote:
kephrira wrote:
HealthTip wrote:
Most wars and arguments are down to people, religion is just the banner they use to justify it. Without Religion I am sure wars and arguments would continue !
and so would racism - but is that an excuse to allow religious organisations to be institutionally racist?
Jewishness was never looked as institutionally racist before. This is fairly new. I look at this as another way to attack Jews in Europe and this is disgusting.
It seems strange to claim that the application of anti-racism laws could be a racist act.
