Cases like this is why we need the death penalty.
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What the hell is going on these days?
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Good grief! What a despicable thing to do...to treat a human being that way.
89- Flightkeeper
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I wouldn't mind having her treated in jail by the inmates the same way she treated that poor woman. It's despicable and 41 years in jail isn't long enough.
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Wow, it's just crazy to read what some people are capable of.
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Agreed.
Makes you wonder what happened in her life to make her so cruel and prejudice towards people with limitations.
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elayne001 wrote:
Makes you wonder what happened in her life to make her so cruel and prejudice towards people with limitations.
Yes I wonder what she sees in herself that she projected on to her victim?
I don't believe in the death penalty. Murder is wrong, whether by an individual or by a government it doesn't matter.
And throwing her in jail forever is not the answer either. The only way this woman can learn some compassion for others is if we show some compassion to her.
Justice should not be about vengeance, it should be about rehabilitation.- 93
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J de G wrote:
I don't believe in the death penalty. Murder is wrong, whether by an individual or by a government it doesn't matter.
And throwing her in jail forever is not the answer either. The only way this woman can learn some compassion for others is if we show some compassion to her.
Justice should not be about vengeance, it should be about rehabilitation.I agree with you. Most people incarcerated are mentally ill and need help. Most abusers were abused, more abuse does nothing to help them recover.
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J de G wrote:
I don't believe in the death penalty. Murder is wrong, whether by an individual or by a government it doesn't matter.
And throwing her in jail forever is not the answer either. The only way this woman can learn some compassion for others is if we show some compassion to her.
Justice should not be about vengeance, it should be about rehabilitation.What?
Wow! This is sad I am not sure what the correct punishment, or lesson is my heart just Hurts!
I generally agree with rehabilitation as opposed to retribution, but I also believe that the time she does should be proportionate to the crime, and that given the scope of the crime, the length of time she devoted to abusing this woman and exploiting her for the social security check, the example she set for her son who also took part in this crime, we should consider the very real possibility that she may never be rehabilitated and therefore should spend the rest of her life in prison.
I just feel certain people are not worth rehabilitating...than again capital punishment is so expensive. Either way it is--just kill her quickly and be done with it.
But see, if we kill her because we deem her "not worth rehabilitating," that may make us no better than she is. She believed her victim was less worthy, too.
Valerie F wrote:
But see, if we kill her because we deem her "not worth rehabilitating," that may make us no better than she is. She believed her victim was less worthy, too.
By jailing her we are saying she is less worthy to live in a normal society...actually...she made herself less worthy to live.
Sure, rehab is fine, but I just don't think all human lives that are so distorted are worth wasting time und money on...but, maybe its not worth funding her on death row either. Let her fester in a prison for life or toss her in a male prison are ok I guess.
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J de G wrote:
I don't believe in the death penalty. Murder is wrong, whether by an individual or by a government it doesn't matter.
And throwing her in jail forever is not the answer either. The only way this woman can learn some compassion for others is if we show some compassion to her.
Justice should not be about vengeance, it should be about rehabilitation.A freak like this individual cannot be rehabilitated. She's too far gone. At this point it isn't about teaching her compassion. The reason criminals can victimize is that they lack empathy, and if some hasn't developed that in the first few years of life when their brain was developing it isn't going to happen. I'm sorry if this piece-of-filth has been so damaged she's now pure evil; but she lost any right to compassion from others when she did what she did to an absolutely innocent victim.
I'm not particularly a fan of the death penalty; and it won't bring back the victim (or spare her from the torture she suffered); but her family may need to see some justice, and at this point I think giving them some sense of justice is the least the justice system can do. It won't take away what they must live with, but it may at least prevent them from a lifetime of even more hard-to-live-with "issues" that come when there's no justice.
I know this isn't going to happen (and I suppose I don't wouldn't really want a government that allowed it to); but there's a part of me that says, "Give the victim's family a baseball bat, a cigarette lighter, a couple of rocks, a steak knife, and monkey wrench - and have at her."torimari wrote:
Valerie F wrote:
But see, if we kill her because we deem her "not worth rehabilitating," that may make us no better than she is. She believed her victim was less worthy, too.
By jailing her we are saying she is less worthy to live in a normal society...actually...she made herself less worthy to live.
Sure, rehab is fine, but I just don't think all human lives that are so distorted are worth wasting time and money on...but, maybe its not worth funding her on death row either. Let her fester in a prison for life or toss her in a male prison are ok I guess.No, by jailing her, we acknowledge that she has proven herself a threat to innocent members of the general population. Keeping her in jail isn't a declaration of her worth, but a measure to protect other people from actions she's proven herself willing to take.
And she thought her victims' lives were less worthy. In order for there to be any chance of rehabilitation, we have to prove we're better than that.
Perhaps by her actions she's forfeited her right to live. But by that logic, if you judge another person as worth less, you forfeit your right to be treated as an equal. That's where mercy comes in.
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Death sentence is a must. Those who have committed heinous crimes like murder, robbery, treason, etc., whose existence threatens public safety should not be shown any mercy. They deserve no mercy. Sometimes mercy proves to be a licence for continuing the crimes.
One group has killed atleast 4000 people by destroying the twin towers (Sept.11). That group is headed by an elusive person. Does he deserve any sympathy? Is his existence justified? Will he stop his crimes if pardoned?- 93
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She's also obviously a threat to other prisoners; so she ought to be thrown in some tiny pit somewhere and have her dinner pushed under the door until she completely loses touch with reality. That'll put her out the mental misery she's clearly in now.
Valerie F wrote:
torimari wrote:
Valerie F wrote:
But see, if we kill her because we deem her "not worth rehabilitating," that may make us no better than she is. She believed her victim was less worthy, too.
By jailing her we are saying she is less worthy to live in a normal society...actually...she made herself less worthy to live.
Sure, rehab is fine, but I just don't think all human lives that are so distorted are worth wasting time and money on...but, maybe its not worth funding her on death row either. Let her fester in a prison for life or toss her in a male prison are ok I guess.No, by jailing her, we acknowledge that she has proven herself a threat to innocent members of the general population. Keeping her in jail isn't a declaration of her worth, but a measure to protect other people from actions she's proven herself willing to take.
And she thought her victims' lives were less worthy. In order for there to be any chance of rehabilitation, we have to prove we're better than that.
Perhaps by her actions she's forfeited her right to live. But by that logic, if you judge another person as worth less, you forfeit your right to be treated as an equal. That's where mercy comes in.Let's just say we don't have the same values. ;D Values are personal perspective and intangible concepts. Many people would disagree with you (and possibly me) and be fine with whoever kills her and feel the person who killed her are perhaps of no less value...or more valuable for her death because of what she did. Some would see the person who put her to death just as bad as her.
Values are relative and individual so let's just I don't see it the way you do.
