What Is Religion HIDING From The People?
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The 'Gods' were aliens. Just look at cave paintings. Jesus didn't perform miracles, he was an alien using his technology to create the illusion of miracles.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
--Arthur C. ClarkeProve it!
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Valerie F wrote:
Prove it!
The Blue Book says so. HAH! I just used a religious tactic.
To answer the last question, I wouldn't say we are Gods. We are part of god.
It's all interpretation. How do you know he didn't mean "lift you out of darkness" as a metaphor for the technological dark times we were in? I certainly doubt he intended Christianity to be the scientific depressant that it ended up being.
Cagsil wrote:
We exist. We are the only ones in the Universe that is conscious.
I HIGHLY doubt that.
I was asking for proof that Jesus was an alien.
As for Jesus words, the most reliable source we have is the Bible. If you're going to toss that, or toss aside all the parts where Jesus worked miracles, rose from the dead, said he was Messiah, was described as the Word of God Incarnate, advocated listening to the religious leaders of the day without following their imperfect examples, and so forth, you don't have much left.- 83
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I don't think little of myself at all. I think I am as much a part of god as you are. I just think it's very arrogant to believe we are the only conscious beings in the universe when it is SO large.
I know what you were asking Valerie, I was making a joke. The response to "Give me proof that God exists, or that Jesus was the son of God" is always "the bible says so." So... the blue book says so! - 83
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Cagsil wrote:
GOD-LIKE powers would be having the ability to CONTROL nature, which isn't within man's grasp. Yet?
Man can manipulate or simulate nature's workings in certain aspects, but cannot control nature.
And, the day that happens- the GOD complex of the human race will change.Actually, we can somewhat control the weather. Google search HAARP. (We don't really know the full effects of this yet.... so for now it is kind of just manipulation, but they do have some control.
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Hell we already have a god complex. Have you ever seen a 16 year old drive a car? They think they're immortal!
We're definitely not 1 cure away from immortality. With each cure come more diseases. Plus, we'll never rid the world of war, famine, violence, and accidents. 
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Nope, you are missing something. We are not gods. Jesus Christ is the Light, the darkness is to not know Him.
John 12:35 "Jesus therefore said to them: Yet a little while, the light is among you. Walk whilst you have the light, that the darkness overtake you not. And he that walketh in darkness, knoweth not whither he goeth."
1 John 2:8 "Again a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true both in him and in you; because the darkness is passed, and the true light now shineth."Pr0metheus wrote:
Valerie F wrote:
Prove it!
The Blue Book says so. HAH! I just used a religious tactic.
To answer the last question, I wouldn't say we are Gods. We are part of god.
It's all interpretation. How do you know he didn't mean "lift you out of darkness" as a metaphor for the technological dark times we were in? I certainly doubt he intended Christianity to be the scientific depressant that it ended up being.
Cagsil wrote:
We exist. We are the only ones in the Universe that is conscious.
I HIGHLY doubt that.
Wise guy. That's a "religious tactic" that never worked on me. Cite chapter and verse, and please prove to me that your "blue book" is reliable.
As for technological "dark times," prove that our current times are any brighter. Sure, we have internet. We also have internet porn, cyber stalking, and so forth. We have cured disease with adult stem cells voluntarily donated. So we leap to the conclusion that it's permissible to kill human embryos for stem cells that have yielded no cures. We've figured out how to split the atom, which has given us cleaner, more economical means to power our society as well as a means of committing global murder/suicide.
Technological progress will only bring about our destruction without moral and spiritual progress remaining at least two steps ahead of it.
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Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can still die. Reversing the age process will not make man immortal.
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Cagsil wrote:
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Umm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you can still die. Reversing the age process will not make man immortal.
Are you insane?
The aging process is what is killing people. If that slowed even a hair, life was extended 20-30 years you don't think it would impact life?
Mankind's potential is unlimited and Jesus Christ knew it.Immortal means that you'll live forever. I didn't say that slowing down the age process wouldn't improve our quality of life...you said immortal. And I'm saying, we wouldn't all turn into Wolverine!
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Cagsil wrote:
Pr0metheus wrote:
Hell we already have a god complex. Have you ever seen a 16 year old drive a car? They think they're immortal!
We're definitely not 1 cure away from immortality. With each cure come more diseases. Plus, we'll never rid the world of war, famine, violence, and accidents.As smart as you are...I would have thought you ask what the one cure was?
I guess I gave too much credit.
Either way, the one cure- Aging!Stopping cell degeneration? We are actually pretty close... but what about disease? I don't see how stopping aging would stop death altogether.
Valerie:
Chapter and Verse? For the blue book? I don't even know them - I've never read the blue book. It's supposedly an alien handbook, I don't really believe it. While we're at it, prove to me that the bible is a reliable, TRUTHFUL, book. You can't, so don't ask me to do the same. I was making a joke from the beginning, but OK we can play this game.
Dark times refers to repression of science. The church was responsible for that for a century (just look at gallileos work, or any other huge breakthroughs that were repressed because they challenged the churches beliefs).
Just an FYI, we can get stem cells without killing embryo's now.
Talk about moral and spiritual development that needs to accompany technology all you want, but are you really trying to tell me killing people who believe differently from you has ANY relation to moral or spiritual growth? How were the crusades justified? Did we need them? How do you justify imprisoning and killing scientists, astronomers, and others who challenged the popular view of the universe we live in?
The authors of the bible figured out how to control the masses, which allowed them to keep a society running smoothly, but also allowed them to wage 'holy wars' against the arab people. How is that any better?
Technological progress is what will allow man to ascend to the next level of society, and it was halted for many years thanks to religion, and the desire of a few men to control many. 
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Today religion is making us loose true humanity and love for each other ......
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Oh, believe me, I understand your concept. I just don't agree with it. I don't think the human body was meant to live forever. It's not built that way. You're talking about an evolutionary process that would change our anatomy. We would be something else, not human. An extra DNA strand, an extra chromosome...something. Either way, you are changing what we really are.
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Cagsil wrote:
So, do you agree- the church is hiding what I think it.
Science would explode if we were able to extend our lives. Advancement after advancement would come.I don't think it's hiding anything. It is losing control over the masses, which is something its leaders don't want. It's more just holding us back.
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drej2522 wrote:
Oh, believe me, I understand your concept. I just don't agree with it. I don't think the human body was meant to live forever. It's not built that way. You're talking about an evolutionary process that would change our anatomy. We would be something else, not human. An extra DNA strand, an extra chromosome...something. Either way, you are changing what we really are.
I'm no expert on DNA, but from what I understand we are basically born with extra bits of DNA that we shed over the years. Perhaps the 'anti-aging' process would just stop that shedding. Either way, it's probably a bad idea. I'd like to die eventually (after leading a long and fulfilling life).
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Cagsil wrote:
drej2522 wrote:
Oh, believe me, I understand your concept. I just don't agree with it. I don't think the human body was meant to live forever. It's not built that way. You're talking about an evolutionary process that would change our anatomy. We would be something else, not human. An extra DNA strand, an extra chromosome...something. Either way, you are changing what we really are.
What are you talking about?
The aging process is a disease.What?
drej2522 wrote:
Immortal means that you'll live forever. I didn't say that slowing down the age process wouldn't improve our quality of life...you said immortal. And I'm saying, we wouldn't all turn into Wolverine!
Haven't been reading X-Men Forever, have you?
Cagsil, I think you vastly overestimate the human creature's control over his or her life or surroundings. Every time we think we've outsmarted God and/or nature with "unsinkable ships" or (where I once lived) "earthquake-proof" freeway overpasses, we are proven wrong. Imperfect. We are not completely in control, and given our track record, I don't think any human should be.
As for Biblical reliability, there is more evidence that the Bible has been reliably written and copied over the centuries than there is that Homer dictated the Iliad or William Shakespeare wrote all his plays. Its oldest manuscripts are also far closer in age to the original documents than the oldest extant manuscript of the Iliad is to its original.
Do you take it on faith that the Iliad you may have read in high school or college is exactly the way Homer dictated it?- 83
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Cagsil wrote:
drej2522 wrote:
Oh, believe me, I understand your concept. I just don't agree with it. I don't think the human body was meant to live forever. It's not built that way. You're talking about an evolutionary process that would change our anatomy. We would be something else, not human. An extra DNA strand, an extra chromosome...something. Either way, you are changing what we really are.
What are you talking about?
The aging process is a disease.Not really. See my post on DNA above.
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Cagsil wrote:
drej2522 wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
What are you talking about?
The aging process is a disease.What?
You didn't know that?
umm, you're wrong..YOU didn't know that?
