How does a religious person contradict having a mind?
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Denno66 wrote:
I've gone toe-to-toe with some who think that their view must be taught to others, too.
I don't know, maybe some are incapable to develop a belief on their own without first being taught. Still, this doesn't mean a person should have to follow or be taught their entire lives. People should be taught to eventually lead which would be self teaching rather than follow for a lifetime which I would consider a taught belief.
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dino abruzzese wrote:
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helloNice addition to the topic. I realize your a new, but get situated before jumping and saying nothing, besides hello.
Yes, I realize that saying 'hello' is something, but not really in reference to the topic at hand.
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marinealways24 wrote:
Denno66 wrote:
I've gone toe-to-toe with some who think that their view must be taught to others, too.
I don't know, maybe some are incapable to develop a belief on their own without first being taught. Still, this doesn't mean a person should have to follow or be taught their entire lives. People should be taught to eventually lead which would be self teaching rather than follow for a lifetime which I would consider a taught belief.
Does this make sense?
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marinealways24 wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
I'm pretty sure I have at least one post this forum that gives my answer to the topic, but just in case...
How does a religious person contradict having a mind?
A person can not contradict having a mind. Because, each person has a mind.
How ever, a religous person goes beyond their own minds reality. And, it isn't healthy for the human being to waste energy on such nonsense.
Religion I find is very harmful to society, as a whole.Wrong. A religious person does contradict having a mind.
It doesn't contradict having a mind. It contradicts the proper use of the mind.
Come on Marine.
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Cagsil wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
I'm pretty sure I have at least one post this forum that gives my answer to the topic, but just in case...
How does a religious person contradict having a mind?
A person can not contradict having a mind. Because, each person has a mind.
How ever, a religous person goes beyond their own minds reality. And, it isn't healthy for the human being to waste energy on such nonsense.
Religion I find is very harmful to society, as a whole.Wrong. A religious person does contradict having a mind.
It doesn't contradict having a mind. It contradicts the proper use of the mind.
Come on Marine.
I know your agrument.lol If it contradicts the use of a mind, it contradicts having a mind.
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zampano wrote:
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
And, where is HEAVEN supposed?
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Cagsil wrote:
dino abruzzese wrote:
dino abruzzese
helloNice addition to the topic. I realize your a new, but get situated before jumping and saying nothing, besides hello.
Yes, I realize that saying 'hello' is something, but not really in reference to the topic at hand.
But, thank you for playing.Wow! You're brutal!
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marinealways24 wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
Denno66 wrote:
I've gone toe-to-toe with some who think that their view must be taught to others, too.
I don't know, maybe some are incapable to develop a belief on their own without first being taught. Still, this doesn't mean a person should have to follow or be taught their entire lives. People should be taught to eventually lead which would be self teaching rather than follow for a lifetime which I would consider a taught belief.
Does this make sense?
Hmm, kinda. But, I'm fuzzy about the beginning. You mean, you could start out being taught, but move away from that to form your own belief system?
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Cagsil wrote:
zampano wrote:
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
And, where is HEAVEN supposed?
Heaven is in your heart
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manlypoetryman wrote:
zampano wrote:
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
Wisest point...I have read! Thank you
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heave?
The wisest point...YOU have read! Hmm....?
You must not read much of the forum. There are a lot of wise reads for you.
But, to give you a little insight on the statement you responded to- Blessed are the poor in spirit(this would mean those who are not believers), for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven(their Kingdom is Earth).
Again, Jesus always taught people to be conscious individuals, to think for themselves and use honesty in their actions, with themselves and others.
His message is quite clear to those who understand him and his teachings. Remember- he also told- "DO NOT worship a false god or idol!", which many simply interpret as no other than him or his god.
And, that's an assumption on a religious follower's part- the god you are to worship is inside you- it is your own consciousness, which lead by your own conscience.
You are NOT to seek outside guidance otherwise. It's NOT required in life to seek guidance from a higher power.
And, Jesus was NOT a higher power. He was a human male. - 90
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Cagsil wrote:
manlypoetryman wrote:
zampano wrote:
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven
Wisest point...I have read! Thank you
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heave?
The wisest point...YOU have read! Hmm....?
You must not read much of the forum. There are a lot of wise reads for you.
But, to give you a little insight on the statement you responded to- Blessed are the poor in spirit(this would mean those who are not believers), for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven(their Kingdom is Earth).
Again, Jesus always taught people to be conscious individuals, to think for themselves and use honesty in their actions, with themselves and others.
His message is quite clear to those who understand him and his teachings. Remember- he also told- "DO NOT worship a false god or idol!", which many simply interpret as no other than him or his god.
And, that's an assumption on a religious follower's part- the god you are to worship is inside you- it is your own consciousness, which lead by your own conscience.
You are NOT to seek outside guidance otherwise. It's NOT required in life to seek guidance from a higher power.
And, Jesus was NOT a higher power. He was a human male.I'm going to make your likeness in clay right now.
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Denno66 wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
dino abruzzese wrote:
dino abruzzese
helloNice addition to the topic. I realize your a new, but get situated before jumping and saying nothing, besides hello.
Yes, I realize that saying 'hello' is something, but not really in reference to the topic at hand.
But, thank you for playing.Wow! You're brutal!
Come on, did you expect anything less in these forums.
Everyone has something to say, and some don't have much to say.
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Denno66 wrote:
Cagsil wrote:
manlypoetryman wrote:
Wisest point...I have read! Thank youBlessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heave?
The wisest point...YOU have read! Hmm....?
You must not read much of the forum. There are a lot of wise reads for you.
But, to give you a little insight on the statement you responded to- Blessed are the poor in spirit(this would mean those who are not believers), for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven(their Kingdom is Earth).
Again, Jesus always taught people to be conscious individuals, to think for themselves and use honesty in their actions, with themselves and others.
His message is quite clear to those who understand him and his teachings. Remember- he also told- "DO NOT worship a false god or idol!", which many simply interpret as no other than him or his god.
And, that's an assumption on a religious follower's part- the god you are to worship is inside you- it is your own consciousness, which lead by your own conscience.
You are NOT to seek outside guidance otherwise. It's NOT required in life to seek guidance from a higher power.
And, Jesus was NOT a higher power. He was a human male.I'm going to make your likeness in clay right now.
Am I making a claim to be a prophet? No.
Am I making a claim to be a GOD? Yes, but only over myself.
Am I making a claim to be perfect? No, no human can achieve perfection, regardless of how hard they each try. 
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cheaptrick wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
-How does a religious person contradict having a mind?
How does a religious person or person of grouped belief contradict having a mind?One of the books found in the Dead Sea scrolls,Nag Hammadi,which have been authenticated is the book of Mary Magdalen.In it she asks Christ this question"Lord,I had a vision,did it come from my Spirit or my Soul?"(this question indicates a difference between Spirit and Soul)Christs reply was"You have your Spirit and you have your Soul,between the two is your mind,there lies the Treasure".Clearly,a true Christian must use the engine of the mind to walk the"narrow path",this engine of the mind is directed by free will...
Very cool answer cheaptrick.
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Denno66 wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
I don't know, maybe some are incapable to develop a belief on their own without first being taught. Still, this doesn't mean a person should have to follow or be taught their entire lives. People should be taught to eventually lead which would be self teaching rather than follow for a lifetime which I would consider a taught belief.Does this make sense?
Hmm, kinda. But, I'm fuzzy about the beginning. You mean, you could start out being taught, but move away from that to form your own belief system?
Yes! If you are dependent on a belief system. Not everyone is dependent on absolute belief.
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marinealways24 wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
marinealways24 wrote:
Yes! but you left something out. If my mom only forgave me and didn't punish me, wouldn't I learn from the mistake or be likely to do it again if there was no punishment to learn from? If there was no punishment, I wouldn't learn anything. Simple forgiveness solves nothing without punishment or correction.The burden of guilt on your conscious is a powerful learning tool. When I knew I hurt my Mom I felt like crap. All It took for me was to look in her eyes and know I let her down. I'm not everybody and I'm not always right but it upsets me to know I have done wrong. In the context of religion I believe God blesses my life and when I commit a sin I've offended him and I hurt inside. Through prayer he says he'll forgive but he expects me to corret my behavior, he doesn't write a blank check future bad behavior.
I have some appointments to go to, go easy on the Christian hubbers they really believe they are trying to help you out. They don't get it right all the time but their intentions are good. If you want an agressive debate hammer me, I can take it. I'll talk to you later.
Everyone is taught a different conscious until they learn their individual conscious. What is wrong to your conscious isn't the same as my conscious. Some do not have capability to know an action is wrong if they have no taught conscious. This is why punishment is sometimes neccessary. Not everyone has teachers as yourself. Some learn from trial an error.
I agree.
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marinealways24 wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
topgunjager wrote:
hahaha, i'm sorry mohit, not trying to insult you but that was freaking funny=)So what are you trying to do?
Do you think it is a big joke to get ranked 2 in Religious and Spiritual books till date?
We are talking Religious Philosophy and not some childrens book. Keep destroying yourself prophet. You do all of the work. Keep preaching self awareness as if you have it.
You silly arrogant little prophet. You are not the chosen one.So you decide who the prophet is ? Foolish arrogance.
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marinealways24 wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
Denno66 wrote:
Okay, so let me see if I get this straight. Having religion in your life precludes you from having a mind?
Yes according to Marineallways and Tantrum if you relate with the great masters and their teachings you have no mind.
How can someone who believes in a higher intelligence have a mindYou clearly can't read you lying little prophet. I said believers contradict having a mind, not that they don't have a mind. Keep twisting words to make them fit you lying little prophet.
What do you mean by contradict having a mind? Try and have more clarity if you can with your limited intelligence.
works as a soldier and says believers work for the government, no limit to your rubbish. - 80
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marinealways24 wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
tantrum wrote:
I'm not here for my 'credibility' !
I can't care less if someone thinks highly of me or not!
I don't have to hide behind a 'book' to think I'm worthy!
Or to hide behind a god for that matter !
Good so you understand you have no credibility and absolutely no spiritual knowledge and so no one will take you seriously.
You cannot write a book of this calibre and neither do you know god so you are just blabbering as usual.
For once try and say something intelligent.Yes, everyone knows from your little prophet preaching. No one is capable as you are to write a religious book. You are the chosen prophet!
Cant handle the truth.?
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marinealways24 wrote:
mohitmisra wrote:
tantrum wrote:
@Mohit
You're so naive as your poems !
Always coming back for more!
But you know what? you bore me !
Belittleing me doesn't make you great.
It only shows what kind of person you are!
If these are the ways of an 'enlightened' one !.....
Why come here and abuse me and my work?
Ignorance! You do all of the abuse yourself. You are your own destruction, remember that you silly little prophet?
Your arrogance ruins your work. You silly arrogant little prophet. What did your good book teach about arrogance? I think you need to read some more.Silly fool is what you are.
