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Up to 30 dead/wounded in Ft. Hood, Texas w/2 to 3 shooters

  1. LiamBean profile image100
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    Flightkeeper wrote:

    A Texan wrote:

    Friendlyword wrote:


    This guy heard and saw the hell he was being sent to, everyday he saw people that had body parts blown off them. He heard all of their horror stories, and he snapped. Maybe the human mind is just not capable of handling that much horror and pain and fear.  He was about to be sent to the same hell he heard about everyday. You can't justify it. You  can not dismiss the possible reason he snapped either. It's not hard to figure out.

    His mind couldn't handle what others have seen? roll

    Yes Tex, the PC crowd is now saying that the guy has Pre Traumatic Stress Disorder roll

    Who? Where? When? Link please. neutral

    Posted 2 months ago
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    LiamBean wrote:

    Who? Where? When? Link please. neutral

    http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/ … al-lenses/

    http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_13725176

    Hmm.  Looks like this term has been used for a variety of things long before the Ft. Hood attack.

    http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_13725176

    http://andrewbartlett.com/blog/?p=33

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o … 1d9e24186d

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o … 71257417ea

    Looks like the term pre-traumatic stress has been floating around out there for a while now.  Imagine, you can now become traumatized by the very thought of stress, instead of real stress.

    Posted 2 months ago
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    ledefensetech wrote:

    LiamBean wrote:

    Who? Where? When? Link please. neutral

    http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/ … al-lenses/

    http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_13725176

    Hmm.  Looks like this term has been used for a variety of things long before the Ft. Hood attack.

    http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_13725176

    http://andrewbartlett.com/blog/?p=33

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o … 1d9e24186d

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o … 71257417ea

    Looks like the term pre-traumatic stress has been floating around out there for a while now.  Imagine, you can now become traumatized by the very thought of stress, instead of real stress.

    I see the same two links used twice. The only person this statement was directly attributed to was a former soldier herself.

    What PC crowd?!?!?

    Again, I ask the question. Why make crap up and attribute it to others? The only "other" directly quoted as using the phrase would hardly be considered a member of the "PC crowd."

    Or is it just that anyone who does not want all Arabs shot on sight considered a member of the PC crowd?

    And for the record, having been stationed at Fort Hood, I don't consider what Major Hasan did excusable.

    But, and this is a big but, killing indiscriminately, as he did, does not make things better. In fact advocating such a move makes the advocate not much better than Major Hasam himself.

    Posted 2 months ago
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    PC, oh please...

    Posted 2 months ago
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    prettydarkhorse wrote:

    Race, religion, ethnicity has nothing to do with the shooting, it is an act of violence and insanity, brutal. It is good he is alive so that they can question him, psychologists havent had a solid answers what goes into the mind of killers like this. It happened before.

    I agree with that.

    Posted 2 months ago
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    LiamBean wrote:

    I see the same two links used twice. The only person this statement was directly attributed to was a former soldier herself.

    What PC crowd?!?!?

    Again, I ask the question. Why make crap up and attribute it to others? The only "other" directly quoted as using the phrase would hardly be considered a member of the "PC crowd."

    Or is it just that anyone who does not want all Arabs shot on sight considered a member of the PC crowd?

    And for the record, having been stationed at Fort Hood, I don't consider what Major Hasan did excusable.

    But, and this is a big but, killing indiscriminately, as he did, does not make things better. In fact advocating such a move makes the advocate not much better than Major Hasam himself.

    Where have people been saying to shoot Arabs on sight?  Stop being hysterical.  You also seem to have missed the last two links which link to studies being done for something called pre-traumatic stress disorder.  Nice to see we're making stuff up out of whole cloth now. 

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/weeki … wt=nytimes

    From the mouth of the New York Times itself:

    “Every man has his breaking point,” said military doctors in World War II, believing that more than 90 days of continuous combat could turn any soldier into a psychiatric casualty.

    For Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist who military officials said gunned down dozens of soldiers at Ft. Hood, Tex. on Thursday, that point may have come even before he experienced the reality of war; he was bound for a combat zone but had not yet embarked.

    Major Hasan was being sent not to fight, but to join those ranks of doctors who, over centuries of war, have worried about breaking points — how much fear and tedium soldiers can take; how long they can slog through deserts or over mountains; how much blood they can see, how many comrades they can lose — and have sought ways to salve the troops’ psychic wounds and keep them fighting.

    So we're having psychiatric casualties before they even go into combat?  This guy was not a rifleman.  He was a support troop.

    Posted 2 months ago
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    ledefensetech wrote:

    LiamBean wrote:

    I see the same two links used twice. The only person this statement was directly attributed to was a former soldier herself.

    What PC crowd?!?!?

    Again, I ask the question. Why make crap up and attribute it to others? The only "other" directly quoted as using the phrase would hardly be considered a member of the "PC crowd."

    Or is it just that anyone who does not want all Arabs shot on sight considered a member of the PC crowd?

    And for the record, having been stationed at Fort Hood, I don't consider what Major Hasan did excusable.

    But, and this is a big but, killing indiscriminately, as he did, does not make things better. In fact advocating such a move makes the advocate not much better than Major Hasam himself.

    Where have people been saying to shoot Arabs on sight?  Stop being hysterical.  You also seem to have missed the last two links which link to studies being done for something called pre-traumatic stress disorder.  Nice to see we're making stuff up out of whole cloth now.

    Read back. One of the posters equated Hasan to a mad dog. What do you do with mad dogs?

    I don't make stuff up. That's the wing-nuts specialty.

    ledefensetech wrote:



    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/weeki … wt=nytimes

    From the mouth of the New York Times itself:

    “Every man has his breaking point,” said military doctors in World War II, believing that more than 90 days of continuous combat could turn any soldier into a psychiatric casualty.

    For Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist who military officials said gunned down dozens of soldiers at Ft. Hood, Tex. on Thursday, that point may have come even before he experienced the reality of war; he was bound for a combat zone but had not yet embarked.

    Major Hasan was being sent not to fight, but to join those ranks of doctors who, over centuries of war, have worried about breaking points — how much fear and tedium soldiers can take; how long they can slog through deserts or over mountains; how much blood they can see, how many comrades they can lose — and have sought ways to salve the troops’ psychic wounds and keep them fighting.

    So we're having psychiatric casualties before they even go into combat?  This guy was not a rifleman.  He was a support troop.

    What's that got to do with attributing the phrase "pre-traumatic stress" to a PC crowd?

    None that I see.

    Posted 2 months ago
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    There was a guy in Amarillo just shot some people in a bar too, one of them was a Brit!

    Posted 2 months ago
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    thisisoli wrote:

    There was a guy in Amarillo just shot some people in a bar too, one of them was a Brit!

    Well there you go. Amarillo natives are the new Al Quida! roll

    Posted 2 months ago
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    LiamBean wrote:

    Read back. One of the posters equated Hasan to a mad dog. What do you do with mad dogs?

    I don't make stuff up. That's the wing-nuts specialty.

    Not right wing-nut, just plain nuts.

    LiamBean wrote:

    What's that got to do with attributing the phrase "pre-traumatic stress" to a PC crowd?

    None that I see.

    Because most people in the humanities field are PC.  There's been an ongoing "war" in acadamia for quite some time now between the "soft" sciences like humanities and "hard" sciences like physics.  Try researching it.  You might find it interesting.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/030014 … dp_product

    Posted 2 months ago
  11. garynew
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    We now know there was only one shooter but there is still the question of whether a larger conspiracy existed or still exists.

    Posted 2 months ago
 
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