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Alcoholics and Drug users draining our Society

  1. lyricsingray profile image92
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    lyricsingray wrote:

    Friendlyword wrote:

    Friendlyword wrote:

    He is long gone.  It was just someone acting like another undercover racist spewing their hate. Dont waste your time with what sounds like a real drain on society.

    By the way... Does anyone on this forum own a Poppy Field?

    Ha, hell I needed that big_smile  and your so right we should be moving right along leaving those behind who can't stand up when they're wrong - well I tried to rhyme, it's late and I need to find a puppy park fast

    cool


    oh poppy field, my mistake, except they get caught in your teeth lol
    Sleep well everybody!

    XO

    Posted 2 months ago
  2. cabalacus profile image44
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    Thanks for all the comments.

    Firstly, I have not deserted my forum, I went to bed.
    I did not write the original post to start a war.
    I was not getting at recovering addicts, I actually respect them for helping themselves.
    My main point is about the people who have contributed nothing to society and are not willing to change their ways, why should we support their habit and let them ruin our society.
    YES some doctors and lawyers are drug addicts and alcoholics, I have no issues with this as they contribute to society.

    Posted 2 months ago
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    Friendlyword wrote:

    Friendlyword wrote:

    donotfear wrote:

    I beg to differ with the original poster. Not all drug and alcohol users, otherwise known as addicts, are worthless. Get real, man. Your opening statement sounded bias. I work with substance abusers regularly and yeah,  I do see some cases of lack of motivation being the primary cause of the abuse. But a lot of these folks have a dual diagnosis too....both substance and Mental disorders. So whoa up a minute.

    He is long gone.  It was just someone acting like another undercover racist spewing their hate. Dont waste your time with what sounds like a real drain on society.

    By the way... Does anyone on this forum own a Poppy Field?

    Well, maybe...

    Posted 2 months ago
  4. lorlie6 profile image96
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    cabalacus wrote:

    Thanks for all the comments.

    Firstly, I have not deserted my forum, I went to bed.
    I did not write the original post to start a war.
    I was not getting at recovering addicts, I actually respect them for helping themselves.
    My main point is about the people who have contributed nothing to society and are not willing to change their ways, why should we support their habit and let them ruin our society.
    YES some doctors and lawyers are drug addicts and alcoholics, I have no issues with this as they contribute to society.

    I don't think anyone has anything more to say.  To you.

    Posted 2 months ago
  5. lyricsingray profile image92
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    lorlie6 wrote:

    cabalacus wrote:

    Thanks for all the comments.

    Firstly, I have not deserted my forum, I went to bed.
    I did not write the original post to start a war.
    I was not getting at recovering addicts, I actually respect them for helping themselves.
    My main point is about the people who have contributed nothing to society and are not willing to change their ways, why should we support their habit and let them ruin our society.
    YES some doctors and lawyers are drug addicts and alcoholics, I have no issues with this as they contribute to society.

    I don't think anyone has anything more to say.  To you.

    I love you

    Posted 2 months ago
  6. prettydarkhorse profile image91
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    cabalacus wrote:

    Thanks for all the comments.

    Firstly, I have not deserted my forum, I went to bed.
    I did not write the original post to start a war.
    I was not getting at recovering addicts, I actually respect them for helping themselves.
    My main point is about the people who have contributed nothing to society and are not willing to change their ways, why should we support their habit and let them ruin our society.
    YES some doctors and lawyers are drug addicts and alcoholics, I have no issues with this as they contribute to society.

    It is a social ill, we must help them, understanding why are they doing it, and their prob is comlicated enough, if we just kill them for example, are we solving the problem, no, there will always be cases like these,

    Posted 2 months ago
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    lyricsingray wrote:

    lorlie6 wrote:

    cabalacus wrote:

    Thanks for all the comments.

    Firstly, I have not deserted my forum, I went to bed.
    I did not write the original post to start a war.
    I was not getting at recovering addicts, I actually respect them for helping themselves.
    My main point is about the people who have contributed nothing to society and are not willing to change their ways, why should we support their habit and let them ruin our society.
    YES some doctors and lawyers are drug addicts and alcoholics, I have no issues with this as they contribute to society.

    I don't think anyone has anything more to say.  To you.

    I love you

    admire you for coming out and telling your story, bless you always lyricsngray

    Posted 2 months ago
  8. lyricsingray profile image92
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    prettydarkhorse wrote:

    lyricsingray wrote:

    lorlie6 wrote:


    I don't think anyone has anything more to say.  To you.

    I love you

    admire you for coming out and telling your story, bless you always lyricsngray

    Thanks Pretty dark horse, your a doll smile

    Posted 2 months ago
  9. lorlie6 profile image96
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    prettydarkhorse wrote:

    lyricsingray wrote:

    lorlie6 wrote:


    I don't think anyone has anything more to say.  To you.

    I love you

    admire you for coming out and telling your story, bless you always lyricsngray

    Lyrics is the best...ever.

    Posted 2 months ago
  10. lorlie6 profile image96
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    Friendlyword wrote:

    donotfear wrote:

    I beg to differ with the original poster. Not all drug and alcohol users, otherwise known as addicts, are worthless. Get real, man. Your opening statement sounded bias. I work with substance abusers regularly and yeah,  I do see some cases of lack of motivation being the primary cause of the abuse. But a lot of these folks have a dual diagnosis too....both substance and Mental disorders. So whoa up a minute.

    He is long gone.  It was just someone acting like another undercover racist spewing their hate. Dont waste your time with what sounds like a real drain on society.

    Thanks, Friendlyword, all that rage was a waste of time!  I have HUBS to write!!!

    Posted 2 months ago
  11. aware profile image80
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    cabalacus wrote:

    The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.

    The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.

    Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.

    PLEASE COMMENT 

    you take aspirin ? drink coffee? or antacid?

    Posted 2 months ago
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    aware wrote:

    cabalacus wrote:

    The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.

    The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.

    Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.

    PLEASE COMMENT 

    you take aspirin ? drink coffee? or antacid?

    amen

    Posted 2 months ago
  13. cabalacus profile image44
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    aware wrote:

    cabalacus wrote:

    The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.

    The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.

    Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.

    PLEASE COMMENT 

    you take aspirin ? drink coffee? or antacid?

    Yes I do drink coffee but that is not what I am on about.  I am talking about drug addicts and alcoholics tat do not want help, why are we supporting them when they have made a personal choice to use a substance.  I have no issues with people who want help or addicts that do not impact on society in a negative way,  I am from Scotland and there is a massive drink problem here but we just throw money at it with no real results.
    I also do not believe that addiction is an illness it is a personal choice that the individual makes

    Posted 2 months ago
  14. aware profile image80
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    and further more you with no hubs  questioning  the contributions of others  just kills me. this drug addict and alcoholic has 19.when you write more than i have. ill hand you the stone myself. then you can feel free to throw it . your off to a bad start. but welcome to this venue anyway .

    Posted 2 months ago
  15. cabalacus profile image44
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    aware wrote:

    and further more you with no hubs  questioning  the contributions of others  just kills me. this drug addict and alcoholic has 19.when you write more than i have. ill hand you the stone myself. then you can feel free to throw it . your off to a bad start. but welcome to this venue anyway . 

    I am not questioning any ones contribution, I am just putting my point across and being slated for it, I am saying that the people that contribute NOTHING to society do no deserve unlimited help

    And thanks for the welcome

    Posted 2 months ago
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    I think that the programs are important because they really do help people that want to get better.

    There are people out there who don't want to get better (for whatever reason) and they'll just hold the rest of us back, but that's how it has to be I guess.

    Posted 2 months ago
  17. lyricsingray profile image92
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    aware wrote:

    and further more you with no hubs  questioning  the contributions of others  just kills me. this drug addict and alcoholic has 19.when you write more than i have. ill hand you the stone myself. then you can feel free to throw it . your off to a bad start. but welcome to this venue anyway . 

    You Rock

    Posted 2 months ago
  18. lorlie6 profile image96
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    aware wrote:

    and further more you with no hubs  questioning  the contributions of others  just kills me. this drug addict and alcoholic has 19.when you write more than i have. ill hand you the stone myself. then you can feel free to throw it . your off to a bad start. but welcome to this venue anyway . 

    What an honorable response, aware.  Thanks.
    Do you, Cabalacus, really believe that people go to their own graves, hurt their children, end up institutionalized or insane by choice?

    Posted 2 months ago
  19. lorlie6 profile image96
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    Scarkaiser wrote:

    I think that the programs are important because they really do help people that want to get better.

    There are people out there who don't want to get better (for whatever reason) and they'll just hold the rest of us back, but that's how it has to be I guess.

    So true, Scarkaiser-it's frustrating.  As the book says, "Some are sicker than others."

    Posted 2 months ago
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    cabalacus wrote:

    The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.

    The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.

    Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.

    PLEASE COMMENT 

    Drugs are out of control in the U.S. More help on our boarders would be a plus, but there would be an outcry of RACISM. This PC crap is killing us.

    Posted 2 months ago
 
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