Can a war be logical?
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War is the failure of politics and is exacerbated by greed.
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war can never be logical
killings cant be solved by another killings- BannedMarine3
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prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
killings cant be solved by another killingsIf there is a group of 10 extremist religious suicide bombers whose belief is human sacrifice by blowing themselves up along with Americans in dedication to their God, What would be your logical solution? Ignore them? The logical answer would be to eliminate them. Do you think their belief could be changed if they had overwhelming faith that Americans are evil?
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BannedMarine3 wrote:
rhamson wrote:
War is the failure of politics and is exacerbated by greed.
Is that a no? lol
Depends how you take it. If a war is fought for a political reason how can that be logical when there are two sides to the story based on a political dialog. (no resolution) If it is fought for greed based on the failure of the political dialog then there is a question of logic based on the unanswered questions of the political debate.
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BannedMarine3 wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
killings cant be solved by another killingsI believe you are wrong, but you are welcome to your opinion.
thank you, I believe that life is precious and that if you instigate a war you are offering many lives...
like for example the government sending troops to Afghanistan and IRAQ, why do they need to do it, how about those who are killed there, thousands already, is it in anyway different to the people who are killed at Ft. Hood Texas, dead is dead and human lives are important, so much so the people who are left behind to grieve, war causes damaged beyond repair, emotional and psychological problems.. 
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war in invetitable because it always comes down to human nature. People are always striving to be the best and when you do so you are in a constant competition against people and you may not even know it. War yes is a kind of primative way of settling things but people have been doing it since the down of time. These days though most of the wars going on are power and religion based that other countries tangle in due to allies and "big brother" countries like the usa. People say its not our war but if we dont clean up the worlds mess as the superpower who will....
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BannedMarine3 wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
killings cant be solved by another killingsIf there is a group of 10 extremist religious suicide bombers whose belief is human sacrifice by blowing themselves up along with Americans in dedication to their God, What would be your logical solution? Ignore them? The logical answer would be to eliminate them. Do you think their belief could be changed if they had overwhelming faith that Americans are evil?
Is the case cited based on no provocation and no past history? Did both parties have something to have a beef about? You have to ask this question because retaliation is a lot different than justice.
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prettydarkhorse wrote:
BannedMarine3 wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
killings cant be solved by another killingsI believe you are wrong, but you are welcome to your opinion.
thank you, I believe that life is precious and that if you instigate a war you are offering many lives...
like for example the government sending troops to Afghanistan and IRAQ, why do they need to do it, how about those who are killed there, thousands already, is it in anyway different to the people who are killed at Ft. Hood Texas, dead is dead and human lives are important, so much so the people who are left behind to grieve, war causes damaged beyond repair, emotional and psychological problems..most of the service members goin over and dieing are dieing for what they love... for marines we just love war and going over there is what we all want too doo. iff we die it was just because our hobby is dangerous
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BannedMarine3 wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
killings cant be solved by another killingsIf there is a group of 10 extremist religious suicide bombers whose belief is human sacrifice by blowing themselves up along with Americans in dedication to their God, What would be your logical solution? Ignore them? The logical answer would be to eliminate them. Do you think their belief could be changed if they had overwhelming faith that Americans are evil?
if you kill them all, is the problem solved, are you sure there is no more killings again, or will it stop there or more retaliatory killings unending cycle of killings on both sides.
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prettydarkhorse wrote:
BannedMarine3 wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
killings cant be solved by another killingsIf there is a group of 10 extremist religious suicide bombers whose belief is human sacrifice by blowing themselves up along with Americans in dedication to their God, What would be your logical solution? Ignore them? The logical answer would be to eliminate them. Do you think their belief could be changed if they had overwhelming faith that Americans are evil?
if you kill them all, is the problem solved, are you sure there is no more killings again, or will it stop there or more retaliatory killings unending cycle of killings on both sides.
As long as fighters are killing fighters then they are just doing there job. preventing civilian death is the goal
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cmlindblom wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
BannedMarine3 wrote:
I believe you are wrong, but you are welcome to your opinion.thank you, I believe that life is precious and that if you instigate a war you are offering many lives...
like for example the government sending troops to Afghanistan and IRAQ, why do they need to do it, how about those who are killed there, thousands already, is it in anyway different to the people who are killed at Ft. Hood Texas, dead is dead and human lives are important, so much so the people who are left behind to grieve, war causes damaged beyond repair, emotional and psychological problems..most of the service members goin over and dieing are dieing for what they love... for marines we just love war and going over there is what we all want too doo. iff we die it was just because our hobby is dangerous
I think that that is a very good answer for the person fighting the war. Your training is to defeat the enemy not coddle or debate the ramifications. But when dealing with foreign policy and diplomacy the political solution must be run to the end before hostilities take place.
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cmlindblom wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
BannedMarine3 wrote:
If there is a group of 10 extremist religious suicide bombers whose belief is human sacrifice by blowing themselves up along with Americans in dedication to their God, What would be your logical solution? Ignore them? The logical answer would be to eliminate them. Do you think their belief could be changed if they had overwhelming faith that Americans are evil?if you kill them all, is the problem solved, are you sure there is no more killings again, or will it stop there or more retaliatory killings unending cycle of killings on both sides.
As long as fighters are killing fighters then they are just doing there job. preventing civilian death is the goal
how about their families and children being left behind
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prettydarkhorse wrote:
cmlindblom wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
if you kill them all, is the problem solved, are you sure there is no more killings again, or will it stop there or more retaliatory killings unending cycle of killings on both sides.As long as fighters are killing fighters then they are just doing there job. preventing civilian death is the goal
how about their families and children being left behind
we all know exactly what we got our selves into.... we join the military during a time of war. what do you expect. i expected to get in on it. i may not believe in the reasoning but ill have a good time figuring it out. sounds very ignorant i know but hey i am who i am. a grunt marine
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Maybe not logical, but then humans don't live by logic alone, nor do any animals.
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cmlindblom wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
cmlindblom wrote:
As long as fighters are killing fighters then they are just doing there job. preventing civilian death is the goalhow about their families and children being left behind
we all know exactly what we got our selves into.... we join the military during a time of war. what do you expect. i expected to get in on it. i may not believe in the reasoning but ill have a good time figuring it out. sounds very ignorant i know but hey i am who i am. a grunt marine
And that is why we pay you to do it. The reasons are immaterial to that cause. However if you apply that reasoning for waging war you will not get a whole lot of support from the civilized world.
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
It can be biological
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zampano wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
It can be biological
LOL< hmmmmm...
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Poppa Blues wrote:
Maybe not logical, but then humans don't live by logic alone, nor do any animals.
HI there all, Hi POPPA
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zampano wrote:
prettydarkhorse wrote:
war can never be logical
It can be biological
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War is a necessary evil, unfortunately. If someone invades your homeland and wants to rule over you what do you do? Sit there and take it? No, you fight back. Or live like some crawling worm, which is not an option.
