http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 01900.html
In this Washington Post article it says that two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps. The stimulus also went to the $3 billion in National Science Foundation grants and the $10 billion for the National Institutes of Health. And much of the $19 billion for health information technology will not be spent until 2011
White House is considering a pure public jobs proposal: giving money to states and cities to hire people to paint schools, board up vacant homes, staff child-care centers and reopen library branches. Workers would be paid the market wage. They suggest paying people lower-than-market wages, maybe $8 an hour, and reserve the jobs for those who really can't find better work. Instead of extending unemployment benefits over and over, the government would help people develop job skills and would get something in return.
America needs jobs now, what are your thoughts?
jiberish wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601900.html
In this Washington Post article it says that two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps. The stimulus also went to the $3 billion in National Science Foundation grants and the $10 billion for the National Institutes of Health. And much of the $19 billion for health information technology will not be spent until 2011
White House is considering a pure public jobs proposal: giving money to states and cities to hire people to paint schools, board up vacant homes, staff child-care centers and reopen library branches. Workers would be paid the market wage. They suggest paying people lower-than-market wages, maybe $8 an hour, and reserve the jobs for those who really can't find better work. Instead of extending unemployment benefits over and over, the government would help people develop job skills and would get something in return.
America needs jobs now, what are your thoughts?
Cut corporate taxes in half.
Cut foriegn aid.
New Public jobs should be based on border/port security.
Drill ANWR and all other domestic oil sources.
All health care cost become tax deductible.
C.J. Wright wrote:
jiberish wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601900.html
In this Washington Post article it says that two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps. The stimulus also went to the $3 billion in National Science Foundation grants and the $10 billion for the National Institutes of Health. And much of the $19 billion for health information technology will not be spent until 2011
White House is considering a pure public jobs proposal: giving money to states and cities to hire people to paint schools, board up vacant homes, staff child-care centers and reopen library branches. Workers would be paid the market wage. They suggest paying people lower-than-market wages, maybe $8 an hour, and reserve the jobs for those who really can't find better work. Instead of extending unemployment benefits over and over, the government would help people develop job skills and would get something in return.
America needs jobs now, what are your thoughts?Cut corporate taxes in half.
Cut foriegn aid.
New Public jobs should be based on border/port security.
Drill ANWR and all other domestic oil sources.
All health care cost become tax deductible.
CJ, I agree with all you points, except health care cost. The costs are in line, when all is said and done doctors and nurses are not the ones making the profits.
Here is one job created by Obama:
The 26-year-old son of Nation of Islam chieftain Louis Farrakhan gets a $63,000 government job as a “business manager” in C(r)ook County after the Nation of Islam-endorsed C(r)ook County Board president, Todd Stroger, wins his seat.
jiberish wrote:
C.J. Wright wrote:
jiberish wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601900.html
In this Washington Post article it says that two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps. The stimulus also went to the $3 billion in National Science Foundation grants and the $10 billion for the National Institutes of Health. And much of the $19 billion for health information technology will not be spent until 2011
White House is considering a pure public jobs proposal: giving money to states and cities to hire people to paint schools, board up vacant homes, staff child-care centers and reopen library branches. Workers would be paid the market wage. They suggest paying people lower-than-market wages, maybe $8 an hour, and reserve the jobs for those who really can't find better work. Instead of extending unemployment benefits over and over, the government would help people develop job skills and would get something in return.
America needs jobs now, what are your thoughts?Cut corporate taxes in half.
Cut foriegn aid.
New Public jobs should be based on border/port security.
Drill ANWR and all other domestic oil sources.
All health care cost become tax deductible.CJ, I agree with all you points, except health care cost. The costs are in line, when all is said and done doctors and nurses are not the ones making the profits.
Making all medical expenses tax deductable doesn't punish doctors or nurses.... In fact making all medical expenses tax deductable would allow many people to live without health insurance. Therefore driving down its cost.
jiberish wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601900.html
two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps.
That statement is very deceptive. Much of the tax breaks are offset by unfunded mandates turned over to the states via the expansion of unemployment benefits and food stamps.....
C.J. Wright wrote:
jiberish wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601900.html
two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps.That statement is very deceptive. Much of the tax breaks are offset by unfunded mandates turned over to the states via the expansion of unemployment benefits and food stamps.....
I didn't write that, I quoted it from the Washington Post, and it is true, what is it that you feel differs from the article, it's the same thing.
jiberish wrote:
C.J. Wright wrote:
jiberish wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601900.html
two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps.That statement is very deceptive. Much of the tax breaks are offset by unfunded mandates turned over to the states via the expansion of unemployment benefits and food stamps.....
I didn't write that, I quoted it from the Washington Post, and it is true, what is it that you feel differs from the article, it's the same thing.
I know you didn't write it. I was just making a comment about the statement.
During the Great depression many public works were founded, allowing much to be accomplished that wasn't being done and many to be employed that were without jobs.
What we need to do is look around us and ask 'what needs to be done?' and then train and pay people to do it! Back in the 1930s, of the things we needed was roads ... I'm sure there is still a need for something today, we just need to think hard what it is Americans can do that would benefit us all ... then create a public works program to get the jobs done. ![]()
jiberish wrote:
C.J. Wright wrote:
jiberish wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/06/AR2009110601900.html
two-thirds of the stimulus went toward tax cuts, fiscal aid to states, and expanded unemployment benefits and food stamps.That statement is very deceptive. Much of the tax breaks are offset by unfunded mandates turned over to the states via the expansion of unemployment benefits and food stamps.....
I didn't write that, I quoted it from the Washington Post, and it is true, what is it that you feel differs from the article, it's the same thing.
If stimulus monies went to tax breaks, they are really only temporary tax breaks, because eventually you will pay the taxes.
For instance, the states took the stimulus money for lets say, unemployment benefits. Accepted monies today with increased requirements on those benifits to be payed out in the future. The fed will not increase their contribution, the state will have to increase their contribution to keep the accounts funded. Basically the fed's increase provided via stimulus is temporary, the state's increase is permanent. So you have a reduction of fed taxes that require an increase in state taxes to make up the difference. Kind of a "slight of hand" trick....I think we are on the same page here...
The problem now is that we sent our manufacturing jobs to China, not to mention that the new Cap & Trade will tax the existing companies out of a job. Food stamps, unemployment compensation, and a government check of $250 is not a job! Infrastructure only employed a few extras. We could start drilling and build refineries, but oh, I forgot, we will soon not be dependent on Oil......right!
jiberish wrote:
The problem now is that we sent our manufacturing jobs to China, not to mention that the new Cap & Trade will tax the existing companies out of a job. Food stamps, unemployment compensation, and a government check of $250 is not a job! Infrastructure only employed a few extras. We could start drilling and build refineries, but oh, I forgot, we will soon not be dependent on Oil......right!
An even bigger problem is that the Republicans don't seem interested in getting manufacturing jobs back in the US. McCain so stated in 2008.
Drilling for oil is a great way to jumpstart the economy. Creates tons of jobs. Ranging from cooks to nurses to engineers to janitors. Lots of upside.
You can't fix the economy until you fix your unit of money. If I were in power (and it's ashame I'm not - lol) I go back on the gold standard immediately.
We are buying products with worthless paper, no wonder everything has risen in cost over the last 30-40 years.
When the dollor is worth its paper then you have a starting point to fix all else - including health care.
Other countries would hate us because we're not following them any longer and we would be immediately richer. But who cares.
After that stablizes, I would abolish the Fed and the Federal Reserve Note and move over to pure silver and gold. I would set the weight and measure as to its value and the states can mint all the coins they what.
The result, gold would come down and stablize, you would have "real" money that is worth more than we have now, and you would get the best bang for your buck!
We could buy a lot more Chinese Yuan with gold and quickly pay the China loans decreasing our natinal debt.
Having silver and gold coin as the only legal money (BTW it is the only legal money) the value would be self stablizing. With the value fixed it would be worth the same no matter how much you coin because it has real value. No more recessions and depressions.
C.J. Wright wrote:
jiberish wrote:
The problem now is that we sent our manufacturing jobs to China, not to mention that the new Cap & Trade will tax the existing companies out of a job. Food stamps, unemployment compensation, and a government check of $250 is not a job! Infrastructure only employed a few extras. We could start drilling and build refineries, but oh, I forgot, we will soon not be dependent on Oil......right!
An even bigger problem is that the Republicans don't seem interested in getting manufacturing jobs back in the US. McCain so stated in 2008.
Drilling for oil is a great way to jumpstart the economy. Creates tons of jobs. Ranging from cooks to nurses to engineers to janitors. Lots of upside.
At this point I have lost respect for both parties. I am a conservative first, Republicans are no better than the Dems these days. I hear no outcry from them, except one or two, but they are rarely publicized.
Allowing oil companies to drill where there is oil would be a novel idea.
I wrote a hub "Pioneering the next economy" which is my beginning to my answer --- also I would agree 110% with Joer4X4.
Do a google search for "Wizards of money" -- and listen to at least the 1st 20 minute audio. (26 audio's available)
There is SO much wrong with the monetary system it is unbelievable.
Sell the liberals to the arabs. It's a win-win deal! We get the money we need and the liberals get to help the arabs on their road to "Progresive Town"!
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Sell the liberals to the arabs. It's a win-win deal! We get the money we need and the liberals get to help the arabs on their road to "Progresive Town"!
Very funny, but I'm sure you just "offended" someone, maybe the Arabs....![]()
jiberish wrote:
sneakorocksolid wrote:
Sell the liberals to the arabs. It's a win-win deal! We get the money we need and the liberals get to help the arabs on their road to "Progresive Town"!
Very funny, but I'm sure you just "offended" someone, maybe the Arabs....
Damn I did it again! Will you forgive me?
joer4x4 wrote:
You can't fix the economy until you fix your unit of money. If I were in power (and it's ashame I'm not - lol) I go back on the gold standard immediately.
We are buying products with worthless paper, no wonder everything has risen in cost over the last 30-40 years.
When the dollor is worth its paper then you have a starting point to fix all else - including health care.
Other countries would hate us because we're not following them any longer and we would be immediately richer. But who cares.
After that stablizes, I would abolish the Fed and the Federal Reserve Note and move over to pure silver and gold. I would set the weight and measure as to its value and the states can mint all the coins they what.
The result, gold would come down and stablize, you would have "real" money that is worth more than we have now, and you would get the best bang for your buck!
We could buy a lot more Chinese Yuan with gold and quickly pay the China loans decreasing our natinal debt.
Having silver and gold coin as the only legal money (BTW it is the only legal money) the value would be self stablizing. With the value fixed it would be worth the same no matter how much you coin because it has real value. No more recessions and depressions.
All excellent points - you must be a Ron Paul supporter ![]()
I would do the following.
1. End the energy crisis by supporting the development of hydrogen based energy to be combined with current technology.
2. Stop the trade imbalance with other countries through tarrifs and tax incentives for business to produce domestically.
3. Withdraw monetary support for Israel and any other country that recieves money while conducting wars.
4. Support agricultural initiatives to create more food that we could trade to other nations who cannot compete with our capacities.
5. End the wars we are conducting and take the money we save from it to support a health plan in this country.
6. Support the research and technology through grants to explore space and thus creating an advantage with regard to new technology and private enterprise.
7. Create tax and spend legislation that will force congress to become fiscally responsible with our money.

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