thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Luke 17:34–36 says the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will occur while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night at the same time.
So who argues that the Earth doesn't revolve around the sun?
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.
What does circumcision have to do with blood clots? Are you saying girls were circumcised too?
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
The great biological truth concerning the importance of blood in our body’s mechanism has been fully comprehended only in recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life. Yet Leviticus 17:11, written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood."
Earliest recorded blood transfusion around 1492.
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Avoid swine (Deuteronomy 14:8). Not so long ago, science learned that eating undercooked pork causes an infection of parasites called trichinosis. Now consider this: the Bible forbid the eating of swine more than 3,000 years before we learned how to cook pork safely.
To be precise, the OT forbids swine skin.
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
The sun goes in a circuit (Psalm 19:6). Some scientists scoffed at this verse thinking that it taught geocentricity – the theory that the sun revolves around the earth. They insisted the sun was stationary. However, we now know that the sun is traveling through space at approximately 600,000 miles per hour. It is literally moving through space in a huge circuit – just as the Bible stated 3,000 years ago!
Galileo was considered a heretic of the Catholic church for insisting that the Earth revolved around the sun. The Catholic church insisted that the Earth was the center of the Universe. Please tell me again what verse says that God said that the sun is moving through space at 600,000 mph. This I would love to see.
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
The universe is expanding (Job 9:8; Isaiah 42:5; Jeremiah 51:15; Zechariah 12:1). Repeatedly God declares that He stretches out the heavens. During the early 20th century, most scientists (including Einstein) believed the universe was static. Others believed it should have collapsed due to gravity. Then in 1929, astronomer Edwin Hubble showed that distant galaxies were receding from the earth, and the further away they were, the faster they were moving. This discovery revolutionized the field of astronomy. Eisntein admitted his mistake, and today most astronomers agree with what the Creator told us millennia ago – the universe is expanding!
Way to copy the Wiki def. in your own words. Nice!
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Our ancestors were not primitive (Genesis 4:20-22; Job 8:8-10; 12:12). Archeologists have discovered that our ancestors mined, had metallurgical factories, created air-conditioned buildings, designed musical instruments, studied the stars, and much more. This evidence directly contradicts the theory of evolution, but agrees completely with God’s Word.
Out of curiosity, how are you making the connection to evolution?
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
The seed of a plant contains its life (Genesis 1:11; 29). As stated in the Book of Genesis, we now recognize that inside the humble seed is life itself. Within the seed is a tiny factory of amazing complexity. No scientist can build a synthetic seed and no seed is simple!
Not so, science has been able to synthetically duplicate seeds.
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Safe drinking water (Leviticus 11:33-36). God forbade drinking from vessels or stagnant water that had been contaminated by coming into contact with a dead animal. It is only in the last 100 years that medical science has learned that contaminated water can cause typhoid and cholera.
First case of typhoid fever 430 BC. First case of cholera as early as 1826. They knew long before gods word what was making them sick.
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Pseudo-science anticipated (1 Timothy 6:20). The theory of evolution contradicts the observable evidence. The Bible warned us in advance that there would be those who would profess: “profane and idle babblings and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge (science).” True science agrees with the Creator’s Word.
The irony is timeless.
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Science confirms the Bible (Colossians 2:3). These insights place the Bible far above every manmade theory and all other so-called inspired books. In contrast, the Koran states that the sun sets in a muddy pond (Surah 18:86). The Hadith contains many myths. The Book of Mormon declares that Native Americans descended from Jews – which has been disproven by DNA research. The Eastern writings also contradict true science.
This is your opinion, yes?
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
Source The bible and Eternal Productions
There are several more, but you get my drift and if you doubt it look it up for yourself and go back to the original languages.
So you used the Bible as your source as well as another source that uses the Bible as their source...
@Anna- I find your lack of sources funny sorta :lol
Galileo was a Christian, and back up his findings with the bible.
If you can't see the connection between blood clotting and circumcision I can't help you.
You asked for bible facts what other books should I use?
Honestly I was expecting more of an argument not just the ad homonym babble of a fundamental atheist.
Oh well nice try though
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
@Anna- I find your lack of sources funny sorta :lol
Galileo was a Christian, and back up his findings with the bible.
If you can't see the connection between blood clotting and circumcision I can't help you.
You asked for bible facts what other books should I use?
Honestly I was expecting more of an argument not just the ad homonym babble of a fundamental atheist.Oh well nice try though
Well, so be it. Your ignorance is much worse then I thought.
So I have another question for you. If science, as you say is false knowledge, then why are you trying to use it to justify the Bible?
Also, how do you define heretic? Galileo was considered a heretic by the Catholic church...Are you trying to say that Catholics were not Christians now?
When you are able to get your story straight. Come back and try again. I would like the facts, not opinion, not speculation, not rhetoric, not mindless babble about what you believe.
Just the facts, no faith, no religion, just facts. Can you understand this? I will say no, you don't understand the question. But I will give you another chance.
Anna Erwin wrote:
thetruthhurts2009 wrote:
@Anna- I find your lack of sources funny sorta :lol
Galileo was a Christian, and back up his findings with the bible.
If you can't see the connection between blood clotting and circumcision I can't help you.
You asked for bible facts what other books should I use?
Honestly I was expecting more of an argument not just the ad homonym babble of a fundamental atheist.Oh well nice try though
Well, so be it. Your ignorance is much worse then I thought.
So I have another question for you. If science, as you say is false knowledge, then why are you trying to use it to justify the Bible?
Also, how do you define heretic? Galileo was considered a heretic by the Catholic church...Are you trying to say that Catholics were not Christians now?
When you are able to get your story straight. Come back and try again. I would like the facts, not opinion, not speculation, not rhetoric, not mindless babble about what you believe.
Just the facts, no faith, no religion, just facts. Can you understand this? I will say no, you don't understand the question. But I will give you another chance.
I never science was bad, evolution is NOT science. I have no problem with variations, genetic recombination, adaptations, transduction, mutations, transformation, vital enzyme exchange through plasmids, conjugation within a kind, it’s biblical and a proven fact, but when you Darwinist try to take leap of faith with “Give it enough time you turn anything to anything look at these bones” that where it stops being science and becomes a pseudoscientific religion. And when you can't even tell how it all began and where the information came from. I‘ll stick with God and His word.
Roman Catholics are a different story.
FACT: Evolution is has been filled with lies and deception from the start.
Neanderthal Man
Piltdown Man
Lucy
Peking man
Peppered moths
Pithecanthropus Erectus
Nebraska man
Peppered Moths
Archaeoraptor
The Pig-tooth Man
Peppered moths
The Stanley Miller Project
All the ape-man drawings
Haeckel's Drawings
And the two latest jokes Ida and Ardi.
the list goes on and on. Like another hubber said fool me once.
FACT: The amount of information in the 3 billion base pairs in the DNA in every human cell has been estimated to be equivalent to that in 1,000 books of encyclopedia size. If humans were 'only' 4% different this still amounts to 120 million base pairs, equivalent to approximately 12 million words, or 40 large books of information. This is surely an impossible barrier for mutations (random changes) to cross" Dr. Don Batten, Ph.D.
QUESTIONS: What evidence justifies the evolution proposal that life spontaneously arose from non-living material in spite of the calculations showing that such occurrence is astronomically improbable.
By what means did the code of life and the enzymes necessary to make the code originate? Which came first: the code to make the enzymes or the enzymes to make the code?
If fifty years of intensive research on mutant fruit flies has produced nothing but more fruit flies, why is it thought that other organisms can evolve into something else?
If name-calling is all you got, keep thinking. When you have to resort to name calling to get your point across you have NO point.
Anna Erwin wrote:
Go ahead I am all ears. Tell me what parts are facts, which ones aren't and how you know the difference.
I believe the Bible is in fact filled with truths and none of it is fiction. It is an inspired book and men from all walks of life wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. The revelation and discernment of its writings also must be read and studied in that light. For non believers this is futile because they do not know the Author. A great book by Josh McDowell, Evidence That Demands a Verdict may shed some light, especially on the Person of Jesus Christ.
Anna Erwin wrote:
Go ahead I am all ears. Tell me what parts are facts
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Who is the historical Socrates? He never left a single writing. Did he exist?
I'm sure that some peple do consider the Bible as an accurate historical document but there is no Jewish or Christian biblical scholar that I am aware of that would make that claim.
Anybody with a real intellectual curiosity, however, would wonder how a desert nomad, 4,000 or 5,000 years ago would have come up with the thought that there was the possibility of an existence outside of the boundary of space and time of the observable universe. It was common to ascribe divine powers to things within the observable universe, like storms, or flood waters, etc., but the idea of a Being outside of space and time was revolutionary.
Another intellectual curiosity of the Hebrew Bible is the Genesis account of creation that bears a striking insight into the sequence of events surrounding the Big Bang. I do not recall the passage but there is even a segment that talks about the stars expanding into a void and eventually becoming nothing but smoke. Not many desert nomads had PdDs in astrophysics 4,000 years ago.
The common translation of the ancient Hebrew word for "period of time" into "day" has the detractors claiming that the Bible says that creation occurred in 6 or 7 sideral periods. That's nonsense. It could just as accurately have been translated as billions of years instead of days.
The Bible is not an historical document. Anybody mocking it for lack of provable "facts" is setting up a straw man that they can knock down. The Bible is a source of wisdom, however, and the hundreds of stories say more about what it means to be human as anything written since.
cosette wrote:
Anna Erwin wrote:
Go ahead I am all ears. Tell me what parts are facts
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Well, the bible is only one book of many. Much of the others have been lost in the fire at Alexandria Library in the time of Cleopatra. Much information is missing.. dead sea scrolls are part of the many in the series and, of course, through translation, a lot has been lost here too.
I think if you are just kind and happy, you won't go far wrong. Just live your life with good intentions, even though this can go pear shaped sometimes, that is just one of those learning things.
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Denno66 wrote:
And eat plenty of eggs.
umm.. the secret to life is eggy egbert! Yum. x
shazwellyn wrote:
Denno66 wrote:
And eat plenty of eggs.
umm.. the secret to life is eggy egbert! Yum. x
He must be a special egg if you speak that highly of him. ![]()
cosette wrote:
Anna Erwin wrote:
Go ahead I am all ears. Tell me what parts are facts
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cosette wrote:
it's funny because it's true
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the page count . page 101 is page 101
Denno66 wrote:
shazwellyn wrote:
Denno66 wrote:
And eat plenty of eggs.
umm.. the secret to life is eggy egbert! Yum. x
He must be a special egg if you speak that highly of him.
Nah, just another of the suckers that I eat out on a regular basis. You know, the Saturday morning sucker! lol
shazwellyn wrote:
Denno66 wrote:
shazwellyn wrote:
umm.. the secret to life is eggy egbert! Yum. x
He must be a special egg if you speak that highly of him.
Nah, just another of the suckers that I eat out on a regular basis. You know, the Saturday morning sucker! lol
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PeterBoston wrote:
Who is the historical Socrates? He never left a single writing. Did he exist?
I'm sure that some peple do consider the Bible as an accurate historical document but there is no Jewish or Christian biblical scholar that I am aware of that would make that claim.
Anybody with a real intellectual curiosity, however, would wonder how a desert nomad, 4,000 or 5,000 years ago would have come up with the thought that there was the possibility of an existence outside of the boundary of space and time of the observable universe. It was common to ascribe divine powers to things within the observable universe, like storms, or flood waters, etc., but the idea of a Being outside of space and time was revolutionary.
Another intellectual curiosity of the Hebrew Bible is the Genesis account of creation that bears a striking insight into the sequence of events surrounding the Big Bang. I do not recall the passage but there is even a segment that talks about the stars expanding into a void and eventually becoming nothing but smoke. Not many desert nomads had PdDs in astrophysics 4,000 years ago.
The common translation of the ancient Hebrew word for "period of time" into "day" has the detractors claiming that the Bible says that creation occurred in 6 or 7 sideral periods. That's nonsense. It could just as accurately have been translated as billions of years instead of days.
The Bible is not an historical document. Anybody mocking it for lack of provable "facts" is setting up a straw man that they can knock down. The Bible is a source of wisdom, however, and the hundreds of stories say more about what it means to be human as anything written since.
Did you know......Mankind came across 'religion' by accident. To understand- you must KNOW where mankind was on the evolutionary scale, such as "How many people were actual conscious beings?" or "What type of society/civilizations complexities were there?"
When you know the answer to those questions. It becomes self-explanatory about whether or not, 'god' exists.
It may not give you 100% proof, only because you'll not want to believe it. It is understandable.
When you come to the self-realization, just like I did(after so many years of religious study), the anger you will encounter will hurt badly.
To start- let's get the simple facts we know out of the way.
The Universe exists. Why? Who cares!
The Earth exists. Why? Who cares!
The Human race exists. Proof- you have your very own individual consciousness.
Why do Humans exist? You SHOULD not put oneself into a collective reason for existence, because each human being's purpose is defined by oneself and no other.
There can not be a collective reason. Unless, specific circumstances are met by all people.
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