Dragon Quest IX: Legacy Boss Hunter - Malroth

Introduction

If you've stumbled upon this hub, then I have to assume that you're looking for help on how to beat Malroth in Dragon Quest IX. Malroth is one of Dragon Quest 9's Legacy Bosses, and is a fair deal stronger than Baramos, which makes sense given the quest order for their respective maps, assuming you've been doing the normal quests before the Wi-Fi quests.

I recently vanquished Malroth, using a party of nearly level 40 characters, which is something I don't exactly recommend as he's pretty tough. Read on to see what I mean!

Previous Dragon Quest Appearances

Malroth (then called Sidoh) was the final boss of Dragon Quest II, where he was summoned by Hargon to destroy Alefgard. However, a trio of descendants of Erdrick put an end to his fiendish schemes before they could be put into place.

Besides that, he has appeared in a fair number of the Dragon Quest Monster spinoff games, as a high-level ??? family monster that can be bred and subsequently added to your party.

Acquiring the Malroth Map

There are only two ways to acquire a map of Malroth:

  • Complete Quest #151 (Pushy Peddler) by giving the quest-giver an Ethereal Stone. As this involves downloading the quest via Wi-Fi, you will not be able to acquire the map in this fashion if you do not have access to Wi-Fi.
  • Acquire the map from someone who has it by using Tag Mode.

Do keep in mind that you only need to access the Wi-Fi once to get the quest information, so you don't particularly need to have a stable or personal connection to yourself.

I'm going to assume you got the map, so keep on reading! :P

Suggested Party Setup

You're going to want a party that's in their 50's, as a bare minimum. Failing that, you can make do if you have plenty of good stat boosts from some of the VUSTs. I recommend the HP boosts from Virtue and Courage to start you off. You're going to want your tank to have Reverse Cycle (obtained by investing skill points in the Fan skill tree; you'll probably need 100 points since the best tank classes can't use Fans normally).

Here's my party setup so you can get a good idea of what the minimum to beat this Legacy Boss is:

Winter - Level 40 Priest

369 HP

204 MP

241 Attack - Falcon Blade

354 Defense

163 Agility


Pyro - Level 38 Gladiator

474 HP

47 MP

369 Attack - Uber Falcon Blade

468 Defense

81 Agility


Windia - Level 39 Sage

374 HP

272 MP
308 Attack - Friendly Fan

317 Defense

203 Agility


Terra - Level 39 Gladiator

319 HP

117 MP

430 Attack - Ice Axe

337 Defense

63 Agility

Malroth's Battle Strategy

If this is the first Legacy Boss you decide to engage, I urge you to leave the grotto and go take on Baramos instead. Malroth is so much harder than Baramos that it's ridiculous.

Here's what you can expect from a level 1 Malroth:

  • Double attack.
  • Critical hits.
  • C-C-Cold Breath, which deals around 160 cold damage to the entire party.
  • Blazing breath, which deals around 160 fire damage to the entire party.
  • Did I mention his physical attacks do upwards of 180 damage to a character with 400+ Defense?
  • Or the fact that his criticals do over 500 (!) damage?

With all of the above said, he isn't that difficult. You can abuse the fact that he'll usually use a breath attack each turn to bounce them back at him with Reverse Cycle. Woe is you if you've yet to get a character with that ability.

Malroth's Loot

Unlike most of the other Legacy Bosses, Malroth will never drop a grotto map leading to another Legacy Boss. Instead, he'll drop Midenhall equipment and Red Orbs (the piece of Midenhall equipment changing every few levels and the chance for Red Orbs dropping increasing as well).

However, he will drop a Mini Medal on defeat, just like every other Legacy Boss. Here's what he drops at Level 1:

  • Mini Medal: 100%
  • Midenhall Boots: 15%
  • Red Orb: 10%

My Party Strategy

As mentioned a few sections ago, you're going to want your tank to have Reverse Cycle. The book acquired upon completing the 100 Shields quest is pretty much an essential as well (instantly block critical hits while you have a shield equipped). Given that I revocated my Warrior a while ago, I decided to switch the vocations of the rest of my party so they could all level up at the same rate. So, if you see some weirdness going on, it's because of how I've spread out the roles:

Turn 1: Priest uses Buff on Sage. Gladiator uses Gritty Ditty (Minstrel scroll acquired by completing the Level 40 Minstrel quest) to boost the party's attack a little. Sage uses Reverse Cycle and Gladiator 2 uses Helm Splitter (Axe skill that deals damage with a percentage chance of lowering defense as well) on Malroth.

At this point Malroth has probably damaged the party with a breath attack (most likely before Reverse Cycle went up, if your luck is similar to mine), so my turn 2 looks like this:

Turn 2: Priest uses Multiheal on the party. Gladiator uses Gritty Ditty. Sage uses Forbearance and Gladiator 2 uses Helm Splitter.

At this point, the battle is pretty much won just as long as Malroth doesn't spam regular physical attacks, as breath attacks will be reflected and critical physical attacks will be blocked.

Conclusion

Well, that about sums up this Legacy Boss Hunter article. Don't hesitate to leave feedback/comments/questions related to Malroth in the comments section. If you need help with this fight, let me know and I'll help you as best as I can!

Until the next time, take care and have fun! ;)

-Winterfate

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Redemption 5 years ago

Ah that's what dragon quest marloth is from eh? And that's where erdicks equipment comes from too hmm interesting. Srry I just played 2 dragon quests number 5 and number 9 o3o so Nimzo Is the is the other final boss I know where he is from and the backstory. Hmm I wonder about dragon quest 1 :/


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Redemption: Yeah, I've played 3, 4, 8 and 9 myself. I envy you for having a copy of 5...so expensive now. :)

The Erdrick equipment is actually from DQIII, as the protagonist of that game is the one who is eventually named Erdrick (Loto in earlier translations). ;)

But yeah, DQI and DQII deal with descendants of Erdrick. DQI's final boss is Dragonlord, by the way. :)

(He appears as a Legacy Boss in his true, dragon form if I recall correctly, but I've yet to get that map.) :D

The Erdrick saga is DQIII > DQI > DQII. So DQIII is the prequel of the first two games if that makes any sense. :P

/DQ History Lesson


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theilluminator 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

nice hub about malroth! he was so hard to beat the first time! ( its easy now, since ive been grinding grottoes like mad and got some great equipment)also, my all physical team took out baramos from lv 2-5. im working on lv6 now.


Redemption 5 years ago

I just went through videos of all the DQ games wow wee lots and lots of different stories! Yeah I feel lucky to have DQV but I've beat it so many times now I know what the characters are always going to say! Btw if you didn't know final boss for 5 is Nimzo. Very touching storyline I can say NO SPOILERS! ;)


Redemption 5 years ago

Yeah dragonlord is in his true form but to be truthful I was disappointed with his strength as a legacy boss. Btw it's been awhile but I've been grinding for 8 weeks and finally got Nimzo's map. He is in his final form (Dang he was easy in his first D:) and he is much stronger then he was in DQ5. But I guess that's the case with all legacy bosses eh? Gregynarl is a grotto boss (not legacy) but he is as strong as one I would say. I cant remember but I think he drops the map to dragonlord so if you find him Winter there you go :D just keep grinding regular high lvl grottos 70+ I think he was in. Good Luck, Your friend Redemption


runescapian 5 years ago

malroth is hitting around 210 on me i have robert : level 62 gladiator, jack : 58 sage patty: 47 ranger, and semlla :level 48 sage why cant i win?


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Redemption: Yeah, I haven't found a grotto with Greygnarl yet. :(

Thanks for the wishes! Good luck to you too! :)

runescapian: Well, the easiest thing to do is get the 100 Shield book equipped on one of your Sages, as that will prevent that character from getting hit by critical hits. After that, you should have the Sages healing every turn. I also recommend getting Gritty Ditty (you get it by completing the Level 40 Minstrel quest) as that allows you to boost the physical attack of your whole party. Your Ranger should have the Gritty Ditty scroll equipped.

Besides that, what are the HP of your party? The more the better. :)


the dude 5 years ago

how much health he got winter? as level one i mean


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

the dude: I think he has a little over 7000.

*confirms online*

7500 at level one to be exact. :)


Redemption 5 years ago

Hey guys! :) Well the dude like winter said marloths health at lvl 1 is 7500 (not the worst some have 9500). And I wanted to add when I neared marloth I was lvl 61 and my teammates in their late 50s and I didn't revocate yet it was lady luck on my side. And also one thing to do is save up your coup de graces intill you get co-op de grace either make your team invincible or use quadraslash. good luck to you guys ;)


Redemption 5 years ago

Btw here's my main character :)

Cullen

Revocated Minstrel lvl 63

Weapon: Erdrick's sword

Shield: none

Head: Halo

Torso: Pallium Regale (from DQ5 :D)

Arms: Crimson gauntlets (clothes gotta match lol)

Legs: Loud trousers

Feet: Acroboots

Accessory: Ruby of protection


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theilluminator 5 years ago from Pennsylvania

oh god i messed up my profile picture....


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evvy_09 5 years ago from Athens, AL

Your boss tips are always so detailed! Malroth looks like one scary boss and it's unfair that he would have fire breath and ice breath.


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SikAnTwisted 5 years ago from Columbia, SC

Great tips!

Ill kill him yet...


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

evvy_09: Thanks for reading them! Now get a DS and a copy of this game. Do it now! :P

And yes, I don't like the fact he spams breath attacks, at all. :'(


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evvy_09 5 years ago from Athens, AL

I will soon I promise! You have me hooked on a game I don't have and I soooo blame you! :)


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

I tend to have that effect on people, haha. :)

I guess I'm too enthusiastic about videogames. :D


TGTASC 5 years ago

Winterfate if you think Malroth's crits are deadly when it does over 500 Estark's crits do about 640 on my lv 99 warrior's who have 100 in virtue and quite a few levels in other VUST's!


Matt 5 years ago

I need loads of Red Orbs!!! It makes me rage so hard when he's drops Mini Medals.


Redemption 5 years ago

Hey guys I'm fighting the last legacy boss I can't spell his real name but it means dark dream and let me tell you, CRIT CRIT MULTI-HIT DEAD D; he is the strongest legacy boss I think he is from DQ 4 I forgot :/


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Redemption: I think you mean Nokturnus (or however it's spelled now). :o

If I recall correctly, that boss is from DQ 6.

I've actually taken a hiatus from Dragon Quest IX, since I purchased Final Fantasy III. :)

Was getting a bit bored with grotto grinding to be honest. Still haven't found one that has Gem Slimes in it. :'(


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Hey Winterfate,

I'd like to take on Malroth, as I need some red orbs for some armor. My main party:

Jdude, Lv.99, Minstrel, 512 attack, 496 defense, 392 agility, 540 HP, 179 MP, equipped with Bad Axe.

Samantha, LV.98 (so close! lol), Warrior, 693 attack, 619 defense, 89 agility (lol terrible),564 HP, 89 MP, equipped with Uber Falcon Blade

Clyde, LV.63, thief, 317 attack, 296 defense, 412 agility, 312 HP, 112 MP, equipped with Deft Dagger

Rosalina, LV.54, Priest, 189 attack, 222 defense, 199 agility, 219 HP, 356 MP, equipped with Mega-magical mace.

Am I ready to take him on?

It feels strange to post a comment on this section not the Corvus one, lol.

Thanks in advance!


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

DQPlayer: Hey there! :D

Jdude and Samantha are perfect. However your Thief and Priest are a bit flimsy. Comparing them to my party at the time of defeating Malroth, it seems they could use more Defense. You can boost Defense by raising Resilience or by equpping better armor/shields.

With that said, you can beat him with a little luck. The party I posted in the article can actually beat Malroth about 75% of the time. :D


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Well, yeah, Jdude and Samantha are meant to be my best.

I beat Malroth 7 times last night.

lol.

But yeah, Clyde and Rosalina are okay.

I don't really use Clyde all that much, and Rosalina is also a LV.81 mage, until I figured I need a healer that could use more than Cacedus (or however you spell it)

About that armour, I'm currently trying to grab myself some Legendary armour, but I can't seem to grab any Red orbs or Agate of Evolutions. I got 2 Agates, but the red orbs are hard.

alright, I'm out of here to have my afternoon waffles.

Don't ask.

P.S. I've been told at level 1 red orbs are 10%, not 5%.

P.P.S. Check out my comment on your hub about Dragon quest IX :D


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

@DQPlayer: I dub thee: "Malroth Slayer"

:P

I haven't played DQ9 in a while...too much Final Fantasy 3. XD

(And given that I'm going to start working next week, I'll have less time for that as well. :o)

The hardest part about Agates are those darn Sainted Somas. The other ingredients are easy.

Afternoon waffles? Is that a similar meal to my midnight cereal? :P

If you get a Red Orb drop, let me know what percentage is listed, as I'm running off of internet info for that, to be honest.

And yes, I did see your comment in my other hub. Made me lol.


DQPlayer 5 years ago

I just got a red orb, how do I check the percentage?

Do I check the monster records?

Sorry I'm confused lol.


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

If you gave Malroth the experience, you can't, as the map will now be at a different level than when you got the drop.

If you kept the experience, check Malroth's Map. It should be listed on the lower right corner of the map in the treasure map menu. :)


DQPlayer 5 years ago

He's still level 1, so I'll check the percentage tonight (I'm not allowed to play today, but I can sneak it upstairs)

I feel happy because I got a red orb, mindenhall boots, and a mini medal. TRIPLE DROP!!!!

Alright Winter, I have to go to school soon, so I'll check this in about...9 hours because I have a badminton tournament today after school.

See ya!


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Good luck in that tournament! :)


DQPlayer 5 years ago

I appreciate your thanks, Winter.

Won the final, 25-1.

I'll post a comment when I get to the red orb drop, okay?


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Way to go!

Also, take your time, I can wait. :)


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Yep, it's 10% red orb, and 15% mindenhall boots.


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Where are you Winterfate?

Is your internet down?

My girlfriend keeps sending me emails and I really can't help but look here while I'm on the computer.

Now she's all pissed at me for not answering! lol.


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Nope, my internet's not down. I read your comment a while ago and actually fixed it in the article. :P

You should really answer her before she rips your throat out. :P


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Lol, she actually says hi to you.

She plays DQ and is just starting her battle against Leviathan.

Maybe you can tell why my warrior's name is Samantha.

She promised to make a comment on the Corvus hub, but don't tell her that I'm telling you about her. She'll get pissed at me twice in two days!


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Haha, I see. That's pretty awesome. Over here in Puerto Rico, the number of females (of any age) that play videogames is low compared to the States or many other places for that matter.

Ok, I won't tell her that I know about you, although she could just figure it out by reading this hub. :P


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Whoops.

But anyway, her name is Sam73.

I don't know many girl gamers either, but my girlfriend plays COD. :0

lol.

she posted a comment on the Corvus one, but it didn't appear, so she's doing one right now while i do this.

Is there any time difference from the U.S. and Puerto Rico? when I'm typing this, it's 8:02 in the morning.


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

There doesn't appear to be a time difference. As of the time of this post, it's 4:13PM. :D

I'm not really a fan of FPS games myself, to be honest, and I have a certain beef with CoD that has nothing to do with the game itself lol (the fact that I hate Activision for merging with Blizzard Entertainment; I love Blizzard, could care less about Activision).

And, I don't see any comments posted by her. Is she sure that they're submitting? :o


DQPlayer 5 years ago

@Winterfate

I'm not an FPS fan either, so I see what you mean.

As for my girlfriend, her friend's brother just died so she hasn't been around here. I'll attempt to bring her back here.

Sorry for not responding sooner, I got this new AT&T U-verse thing that SUCKS! It took me 173 minutes to log onto this page. :/

So once it's fixed or when we get it replaced, I don't think it's likely that I'll post as many comments as I normally do.

Could you give me any tips? I have all the agates and Red orbs for the legendary armour but I can't get the drop from Excallipurr. That victorious armour is a 2% drop, so I bring my thief to take damage till' he gets his Coup De Grace, which always makes a monster drop something if it hits, but all 29 times he's dropped a tactical vest.

Help!


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

DQPlayer: Oh I see. I'm so sorry to hear that. (Both your gf's friend's loss and your terrible internet connection).

As for the Victorious Armor, you just have really bad luck in drops. I can relate to that myself. :/

While I haven't used what I'm about to suggest myself, I've heard it works wonders. There's something called the Hoimi Table, which is a Random Number Generator (RNG for short) exploit that allows you to manipulate drops.

Here's a link that explains it:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/937281-dragon-quest...

And here's a link to the Hoimi Table calculator, since the link at Gamefaqs to the calculator is broken:

http://www20.atpages.jp/dq9tools/hoimi.cgi


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Hey Winter,

I got my internet back on track, so I tried the Hiomi Table but I kept messing up. I did get the Vesta Gauntlets from Equinox, so thanks a lot. It does work, I just kept starting over because I couldn't find a green link until I found the red link works just fine.

Bunny ears!

(Y)

Sorry I was bored.

Also, thanks for helping my girlfriend. She beat Leviathan last night, after she convinced me to join her and kick some whale butt. lol. But she is so into it, she grinded on Metal slimes, the normal ones, til her characters were all level 73.


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

You're very much welcome! Glad I could help you out once again (and your girlfriend as well). :)

Those bunny ears also look like a Piranha Plant (from Mario). :P


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Lol! They do!

I was gonna ask if you ever played Mario, but I think I've already got an answer.

But the Hoimi Table works great, I accidentally forgot to save before the alchemy so I was stuck with Mythical Armour. :P I'm just gonna ask even thought I can't be positive you know but I know the Hoimi Table works for 2% drops, but what about just a rare drop in general? Like for Malroth (I have to Red Orb grind again :/), if you used the Table, would I get an orb every time? That'd be very useful if it does.

Luckily I already had all the ingredients for those darned 8 Sainted Somas so I already have 4 Agates of Evolutions again.

Thanks in advance!


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

If I recall correctly, it should work. If anything, you should have a margin of error to get the drop since you don't need to land in the 2% sweet spot of the random number cycle (you have 2 or 3 spots that will get you the drop). :)


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Alright Winter, this may be it.

I'm leaving.

It's just, well, I'm getting older, I have a girlfriend, it's time for me to start my first year of college, and I don't have that much free time.

Thanks again for all the help you've gave me, I really appreciate all of it.

I might come back, but that's not very likely.

I hope you understand.

-DQPlayer


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

@DQPlayer: Hey! You don't have to explain. I understand perfectly. :)

Just enjoy college in all of its facets, and I'll be here if you ever poke your head around here again.

Take care! It's been awesome talking to you. :)


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Hey Winter, thought I'd just drop by for a little bit.

My main character:

Jdude-Minstrel-Lv.99 Revocated 10 times

Hypernova Sword (Attack:612)

Soulsucker (Defense: 652, Evasion chance 16%)

Heavenly Helm (Defense: 652)

Legendary Armour (Defense: 652)

Sol Invictus Gauntlets (Defense: 652)

Infinity Trousers (Defense: 652)

Boots of Beatitude (Defense: 652)

Meteorite Bracer (Agility: 597)

100 Sword, 100 Axe, 100 Hammer, 100 Claws, 100 Staff, 100 Wands, 100 Boomerang, 100 Knife, 100 Whip, 100 Spear, 100 Bow, 100 Shield, 100 Litheness.

Also revocated 10 times in all vocations.

Whew, that felt good to let out.

Is that better than your Hero?


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

Considering I've only done 1 revocation period (and that wasn't on my main character), yes, your Hero is way better than mine. :P

To be fair, I really don't play DQ IX anymore, since I started working, and I spend what little free time I have on the weekdays to surf the internet and play Billy vs Snakeman, among other things.

(Weekends I inch ever closer to beating Final Fantasy 3 DS, or play Starcraft II.)

Glad to hear from you again! :D


DQPlayer 5 years ago

@Winterfate

WHEW!!!

Man, I love that.

I feel better that I have a good Hero.

Now I'm going to rub it in your face. :D

Almost done with FF3?

I finished it a while ago, even though I'm not necessarily a FF fan, it's not bad.

I've been grotto grinding, just got Platinum Crypt of Doom LV 93. filled with PKJ's and Gem slimes.

But then I get owned by Greygnarl. :(

I actually got a Co-op de Grace and used Quadraslash, but he lived and took out my tank, and then I was totally screwed. :/

Alright, I'm going to bed at 8:00.

I haven't done that in a long time.

I'll check in tomorrow at 3:00 PM.

DQPlayer,out!


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

@DQPlayer: I don't really fancy myself a FF fan either. I've only played 3, 7 and 9. As for FF3, yep I'm almost done with it. However, I'm torn on whether to just beat the game, or try to powerlevel with the Black Belt job to get 9999 HP on my characters.

I've heard the last few bosses in FF3 are hard no matter how strong you are...so...

Sorry to hear about your Greygnarl run. At least you found a grotto with PKJ's and Gem Slimes. That's pretty awesome. :D


DQPlayer 5 years ago

@Winterfate

Trust me, you could REALLY use that extra HP.

Trust me.

My friend and I played some DQ and we took out Mortamor and Estark, both finishing off with Disco Stew. :P Man, I love that move.

We also took out Greygnarl, wasn't too hard.

Alright, gotta get going to the handball tournament with my gf.

See ya.


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Winterfate 5 years ago from Puerto Rico Author

@DQPlayer: Ooo, you're kicking butt now! :D

Have fun! :)


DQPlayer 5 years ago

Hey Winter!

Guess what?

We won the final, 29-2.

My gf scored 24 goals in under 5 minutes, and I scored 5. :/

Lol, my gf's is better than me. She has a wicked arm.

Anyways, just wanted to ask if you've ever got a Co-op De Grace. I've had four of them so far, one which got all my party to 100 tension with all attack fully up and Estark's defense all the way down. But then he used Disruptive Wave. :(

Lol, I also remember that Greygnarl had full attack, defense, and agility, and then I said, "HAVE A TASTE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE!"and used Disruptive wave :P


Lord of the Sword 4 years ago

@DQPlayer

Lol.

Lol.

Lol.

That must have felt good. :P


Yuki 4 years ago

Malroth- I thought he was from 6, which I'm trying to beat (geez, whoever made this game made it for nerds, or super smart people!), so what is the main boss for that anyway?

Tyranasuara rex- I know that's not this hub, but I'm pretty sure you need to beat that quest to get the Malroth map... So how do you beat her?

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