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I was looking in the mirror today and after I blew myself a hot, sultry kiss, I had to ask me - am I a narcissist? I looked at my image again - are you?

Narcissism is self love and in particular - caring about only one's self. A true narcissist will gratify his own needs regardless of injury it may cause others.

Narcissism has been a source of contemplation for hundreds of years.

According to the Greek Myth, Narcissus was a very comely and robust young man. He was so handsome that a nymph named Echo fell in love with him. As unrequited love stories go - Narcissus would have nothing to do with Echo. She languished and was reduced to nothing but a whisper - hence her given name. Once Nemesis, the goddess of vengeance got wind of this, she made Narcissus fall in love with his own reflection. This tale of woe ends with Narcissus reaching into the well to embrace himself and drowning. In his place a Narcissus sprouted.

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The public has been demanding to know the identity of the person Carly Simon was thinking about when she wrote the song, "You're So Vain". Simon married James Taylor in 1973 but she says it definitely wasn't about him. The other suspects are Mick Jagger, Cat Stevens, Warren Beatty and Kris Kristofferson. Simon was interviewed in 1973 in Rolling Stone Magazine and she said then, "I can't possibly tell who it's about because it wouldn't be fair."

In 2003 Simon participated in a charity auction when she said she would divulge the name of the person she wrote the song about to the highest bidder. It made international news. The highest bidder had to sign a confidentiality agreement before the revelation. The name was never given to the public. The mystery still tantalizes the public.

Narcissism is not just for people!

A narcissistic number is said to be a number with a length of n digits. It has the property of being the sum of the nth powers of its constituent digits. For example 1. 11 is one digit long so the nth power would be 1. And 11 = 1. This could be applied to any one digit number.

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Next we have narcissistic rage. A narcissist may have explosive tantrums when they do not get what they want or when they are deprived of control. Many murders and mass murderers have been committed by narcissists. Hitler, Stalin, Ted Bundy.

A narcissist will do anything to protect their perceived self image. They tend to be very superficial and egocentric. Scott Peterson is another famous narcissist. He didn't want to get a divorce like normal people do - it would have sullied his image. Murder, however, was completely acceptable to him. Susan Smith killed her own chldren to garner the affection of a could be lover. I suppose giving the children to her husband wouldn't have been very noble.

Narcissism is normal to a certain degree. Having a positive self image, or feeling confident and successful is normal. Excess, as usual, is where the problem lies. When a person manipulates and lies to achieve a positive self image, the house of cards must stay in tact for the true narcissist. If the life they fabricate is threatened by exposure the narcissist will cheat, lie or kill to maintain the facade they created.

Actors and actresses are quite often narcissisitic. Pablo Picasso was a well known narcissist.

Look in the mirror again and ask yourself - are you more beautiful and important that anyone else? Would you kill for that face? Is the reflection that of the most perfect, special person you have ever seen?

Take the quiz and find out if you could be a narcissist!

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Just Ask Susan 5 years ago from Ontario, Canada

I don't need to take a test to know that I am not a narcissist. However I do know a few people that probably are and you are not one of them :) Very interesting read.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Susan - I would never have pegged you for a narcissist either! I did take the test and I scored quite low! I was surprised, I just assumed I thought more highly of myself! Haha!


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Just Ask Susan 5 years ago from Ontario, Canada

I scored really low I just went and took it.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I got a 7 and Dave got a 5! LOL


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Just Ask Susan 5 years ago from Ontario, Canada

Five here too lol.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

This makes me think of "The Fonz" when he'd go to comb his hair and stop like.. 'Oh, wait, I'm already perfect.' I must not be one because the only time I ever did that was when I looked in the mirror and thought "if I mess with it anymore it'll be worse" LOL! Yes and a true narcissist cannot say "Ooops, I was wrong!" because they don't believe they CAN be wrong. I don't think you have a worry because you're always questioning and recognizing and giving others credit where credit is due. I do however think you don't give yourself ENOUGH credit! Your very pretty, your very intelligent, and either you're going to refuse to see it, or you're going to evade admitting it! You're fun, you're witty and you must be a joy to be around!

I've been told that I give off an air of narcissist behavior, but those that know me well or see that I just say what I think.. well, say before I think I SHOULD SPEAK lol. I get word vomit - text vomit. lol. When I was told that, I thought about who I was around that day. It was a girl who always tried to put me on the spot in front of other people, then one day she did that to me, and I just said, "I don't know Becky, I'm so stupid I forget, why don't you explain it so everyone knows YOU know what it means" LOL.. she never did it to me again. But I had never done anything to belittle her! EVER! Hey I'm not on crack that isn't attached to me bottom... but she was. I can't help it that I am prettier than her LOL *cheezy grin*


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Susan - what's up with us? Lol

Kat - I did always have to wo der fleetingly if I am narcissistic but now that I've researched it in death, I can see I am not:) thank god! Lol


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

All up on this one, Real! Loved it! I didn't even score as average on the quiz - I was a 7 like you!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

How's ya research it in death? hehe...


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

MO - I wouldn't have thought you were narcissistic either! Thank you so much! This was another fun one to research and write:). I guess 7 is better than 17!

Kat - I just picked a few people off the top of my head - Scott and Susan - I knew they were. Andy Warhol - oops I forgot to add his quote - thanks Kat for the reminder:).


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Actually this hub reminded me of a book I'm wanting to read but haven't had the time with trying to box up my keepers for Monday when I get things signed! It's called the Parallel lives of Hitler and Stalin. People think they had nothing to do with anything, my personal belief is they had more to do with each other and the agenda than the public ever knew. The preface actually is quite gripping. Hitler was not a narcissist as many believe. All he wanted from life was to be a painter. His father could have been a narcissist, because he pushed him into living the life he wanted. Hitler was a very talented artist, and if he had of led his life his own way, he was very intelligent, and as a personal opinion with his creativity being stifled, drove him mad. It's a sad thing when a creativity is taken away, it can cause a lot of mental breakdowns in which some people are not aware. Just as they are not aware the the swastika is only inverted to his annoyance of people not living a life that had a flow with nature. It's true nature is backward, and flows with nature and is an ancient symbol of harmony with earths 4 elements. Water, fire, wind, earth.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I'm going to have to disagree with you Kat. I think Hitler was a huge narcissist! He was all about power and control - when it didn't work out he killed himself. I would bet the farm:)


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

Hitler was a religious and humanist racist. I think that's established. As far as him being narcissistic, he may have been more egocentric with delusions of divine power.

I flunked the test :-)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Austinstar - you can't flunk it! LOL and here's another thing - they say that actors and actresses are narcissists- but millions of people do want to be them.. We do lust after movie stars- they are the beautiful people - so can we fault them for knowing it's true?

So - some people are not really nacissistic if they are superior, in fact. Wear it Austin:)

As for Hitler - he had huge delusions of grandeur. He murdered thousands and thousands of people without giving it a second thought. He really didn't care about anyone but himself. I think his narcissism falls into that category.


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

OMG, you found out that I am the supreme commander of the entire universe! How did I let that slip?

Hitler, Smitler. He was an ass. But why did so many people carry out his orders to kill? Were they narcissistic? Or just stupid, spineless Pu$$ies? I don't get it.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I don't get it either! Maybe it was a case of mass hysteria? I have often wondered why one little man could control all those people. Weird.

Austinstar - you are of superior intelligence. You have higher education too so it just fits. If you ran for president tomorrow - I would vote for you because you paint pretty and your resourceful. What better reasons do I need?


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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

I enjoyed reading this fascinating hub, RH, because I have been working on increasing my narcissistic component so that bullies won't kick sand in my eyes when I am lying on the beach.

It must be working - I haven't been bothered by bullies in ages. Of course, I haven't been to the beach either so that could be a factor.

To add my 2 cents worth, I don't believe Hitler was simply a narcissist - his powerful delusions of grandeur qualified him for the title of an extreme megalomaniac with the accent on maniac.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Drbj - I'm glad you liked it and I'm glad you haven't had any more trouble from those bullies. Go back to the beach - take a big stick with you:)

I like that - Hitler was an extreme megalomaniac! I wonder what everyone saw in him - sheesh he wasn't even cute:)


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tlpoague 5 years ago from USA

That was an interesting quiz. I enjoyed reading this hub. My husband and I have been talking about narcissistic traits due to his new job. There is another personality that is simular to this. It is called, Historonic Personality Disorder (not sure if I spelled it right.) That was another interesting personality.

Great hub!! Thanks! Voted up...


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi tip and thanks! I'm glad you liked it - I've always been interested in deviant personality traits:) I'm going to have to look into that one. Thanks for reading and the votes:)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Just a quick question here, did I give off the impression I am a Hitler fan? Or that I think he was right or justified in his actions? Because if that's what anyone thought, then you are very very mistaken. Upon his not being able to carry out the life he wanted, he should have been institutionalized, as he was never rational about anything even as a child, he was a mentally ill child, grew into a mentally ill adult, so should we kill all mentally ill children?

Because I say he was a brilliant artist doesn't mean I condone his actions. But I have studied many books, not just what was put in front of me in school. Joseph Mingle was his right hand man who only was let to lead a life of luxury and die in the 70's with a breathtaking (no pun intended) view of the ocean, and nobody went after him but yet we had other wars.

I just told the truth, not what tidbit I was taught in school. I had to seek out more.

Kelly, now do you see why I don't like to be serious? Because if you told your children they could never have food if they did not, say, wear a green shirt, how many nights would they fast until they put on a green shirt? I do not, and never did condone the actions or those that could have overtaken him, assassinated him, but as said, they were pussy's who wanted their next meal and not to be used as a medical human guinea pig.

This is why our country is in a shambles because everyone is surfaced rather than actually digging into WHY. I can't do that, I can't live like that and that is why I cannot be serious because too many people would rather stand blind and pass judgment.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - no I sure didn't think you were condoning anything by Hitler:! You didn't give me that impression at all! I do also hate the fact that you can't interject tone into type:). Be serious or not - as you want Kat. Besides - conversation - is what can change our minds, make us smarter or make us realize something we didn't know about ourselves. As far as I'm concerned anyone can take any point of view they want - after all I have been known to change my mind too. I didn't know for example, that Hitler was a great artist. Glad I know that. Just feel free to be who you are and state what you think - I think that's awesome about you!


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

RealH, I've never understood why everyone who meets me and my brother always describe us as "smart". I don't feel any smarter than others, and I do feel dumb from time to time, but I just read until I find the answer. Love to read. Maybe that's the secret.

Hey, no matter how smart or artistically inclined Hitler was, he's still dead. Doesn't matter if you're rich either!


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mythicalstorm273 5 years ago

I got a 5... That is really low... I don't know if I believe that quiz. lol. I'm a little bit more narcissistic than that. lol.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Austin* The reason it matters of his youth, is he DID NOT want to go into politics he hated politics, and that is not condoning his actions or that of Stalin nor Mingle. Reading past what is given you is the secret, but I would never think anyone here dumb.. And you are smarter in some things than other people, because YOU might know something that they don't, as Kelly said we can learn from each other and that should be ok. But him being dead is like a jab, he committed suicide when backed into a corner, much as the child within him already had years before, it was the only outlet of his mind. It matters to be rich only when you are rich at heart. And when you have that, it's not smart, it's brilliance, there's a big difference. A lot of people still hurt over that era. The one girl I would call a TRUE SISTER of mine would not be here today if he lived. But we're both rich, because we are rich at heart because we have each other.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Austinstar - it is because you're well read and educated. It's obvious - your vernacular gives it away:). you tackle some pretty tough topics too - things that people can't just spew without having a lot of knowledge behind them. Look at it this way - I know I am smart - but I have always had to study! Really - put hours into studying for tests and I could get an A. I bet you are one of the people that doesn't really have to out much effort into the study part. My sister and nephew are like that - how did I miss out on that gene?!

Myth - i think you're right - I only scored a 7 and I think I'm much more stuck on myself than that!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

I got a -402 what's that mean?


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Spirit Whisperer 5 years ago from Isle of Man

RH, what another great hub. It is full of interesting information and makes people think. I always feel that I have benefited greatly from reading a hub when it gets me thinking and questioning and your definitely does so.

I like the fact that you introduced Narcissistic Numbers as this would suggest that the condition is in some way reflected in the scientific order of the universe and that gives food for thought also.

My personal take on any label is to steer clear. We attach enough labels to ourselves which only serve to place further limits on us. One of the biggest problems faced by mankind is his willingness to identify with his body. Many people cannot get over the idea and they truly believe they are their bodies and their brains. For these people their relationship with themselves depends on their appearance which they either hate or love.

Successive American Presidents have been responsible for killing far more people including the Native American Indian Nation that Hitler ever did but I too like Austinstar would be unable to label them narcissistic. There are other labels that would fit a lot better.

The main point of your hub for me is that you make people aware of the dangers in identifying with their physical bodies and wake them up to become aware of who they truly are and for this I thank you. I love reading your hubs and look forward to your next installment.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH - I'm too perfect to be a narcissist. :)


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

Still, you gotta admit that the Narcissus flower is beautiful!

That's the one thing I can't do. I have a black thumb when it comes to gardening. Would you believe I just put fake roses in my planter? I did. Everything else I planted just died.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

SW - thank you so much! I really like trying to deflate the value society places on appearances. I feel strongly that the wrapping we come in is no where near as important as what's inside:). The need for perfection or sameness drives me nuts!

Thank you as always - I do value what you think!

Stu - I knew you were perfect but please don't try to gaze at your reflection in any bodies of water. Do you swim well? Narcissus didn't and that was the end of him! Ha!

Austinstar - I can't grow anything either! I have 2 African Violets and it is my life's mission NOT to kill them. I've had them for a couple of years now and I just add a little nitrogen evey so often and they're still alive! I can't manage house plants. The weird thing is - I can grow vegetables and out door things - if I move it indoors - dead!

What kind of Indians are we anyhow? I thought it was supposed to come naturally to us!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH - Of course I swim well; remember, I'm perfect (hehe).

Stoo


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

I think we're the kind of injuns that like to stick feathers up our butts and Crow! Or maybe that's just me.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - it's early for me - what was I thinking? Maybe it was a rhetorical question? LOL

Austinstar - I can hardly deny that I am of the same flock - after all - here we both are! Inside typing on hub pages - not outside planting maize. I would have to conclude that I would rather stick a feather up my butt and Crow than eat crow. You know what else is funny? The cross street I live on is Crow Ct. The sign adorns my front lawn!


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX

RHW - Blew yourself a kiss huh? Don't fret. Obama leaves his lip prints on his mirror.

Excellent information.

The Frog


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barbergirl28 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

Well you have confirmed that I am definitely not a narcissist... lol... I didn't even score as normal... lol... does that tell me that I should start being a little more narcissitic?

Very interesting hub. I love the mythology part. I have always had an interest in that kind of stuff.

Voted up - awesome and all of the above... speaking of that... why isn't there an all of the above choice?


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi Frog! I totally was thinking of you when I wrote this - many feel that O-BAM-AH! is a narcissist! I almost put a photo of him in it but I'll leave the politics to you so as not to make a fool out of my perfect self:)! LOL

BBG - LOL! How do you like it? I did this to prove to you that you are NOT that! So of course, I had to link the hub that started the train of thought:) I was cracking up and couldn't wait for you to read it! No one can ever call YOU that - so I debunked it! LOL!


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barbergirl28 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

Should we send the guy a email with this attached... ha ha ha... no I won't go there - I don't need those kind around... LOVED LOVED LOVED THIS! ha ha - and because I am really not on a scale if I ever get called this again, I will just refer them hear! LOL


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

People always believe what they want to about others, BBG. But we know the truth about you! That's why we all love you as much as we do! :-) And, that goes for Real too. In the end, we may be all pretty damn strong personalities, but we're lovers, not fighters - until you threaten the ones we love. That's what matters.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX

RHW - It's nice to be thought of (Frog blushes) and I have something on the back burner about narcissistic personality disorder and Obama. It is a mental disorder you know?


Jrandol62 5 years ago

Hey RHW....I scored a 7....far from being one, which I knew I wasn't. LOL Hope your weekend is going well...Have a good one!


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Spirit Whisperer 5 years ago from Isle of Man

Oh, I forgot to tell you how I did on that Test of yours. I scored a total of 2 and it came up for self sufficiency. What does that make me RealHousewife?


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

BBG - I thought you would get a big kick out of this one! Haha! I knew you would pass the test. Fun!

MO - I up and awsome what you said!

Frog - Yes it is a mental disorder. According to the text books it NPD is one of the 10 mental disorders. So I will love to see that hub!

Jeff - hi there and thank you very much - I hope your weekend is going great too!

SW - It makes you very smart - it means your wife has trained you quite well. (LOL!)


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barbergirl28 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

I have to up and awesome and beautiful what MO said as well....

BTW - RH - your assistance is needed over at Chocolate Martini - we need your witty ideas! LOL


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Ok BBG - I'll put my cape on and be right over!


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Uh, is someone hiding Chocolate and alcohol from me? That, dear friends, is unacceptable. Not the alcohol so much, but the Chocolate for SURE!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Mo, hey, this is why we must keep the rainforest protected, it is where chocolate comes from! In our cases tho, if you've not tried the Wonka chocolate, it comes in bite sizes and bars, and is sooper :) Look for them at either Wal-mart or Meijers. Alcohol is ok now and again if you need word vomit, or other bodily functions to go awry! lol..


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barbergirl28 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

Hey Mo - stop on by and join the party... I can't promise the real stuff... but there is a mention of alcohol and chocolate... lol


Stu From VT 5 years ago

FP,

The mirror in the morning, the MB's derriere in the afternoon, and the SEIU's backside in the evening. At night I guess it's Michelle's turn; even though there's no light, at least it's too big to miss.

St


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Choco -! Where? That's where I'm going....


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

I found some chocolate milk that is high in protein and low fat and really tastes awesome! It's Chocolate Almond Milk! It's thick too. A whole cup for 120 cals! Unbelievable.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Ooooh, Austin! I might have to try that! I stay away from choco milk usually because of the cal and carb count - the closest I usually get is the Carnation breakfast essentials - which I actually really like!!! BTW, girl, how ya been!??!

And in all honesty, BBG and Real, I gotta stay away from alcohol because of different meds I'm on and because I'm diabetic, but chocolate...now that I can be VERY good about and I have to - I need at least one vice. Sheesh.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Oh, and Kat, all it takes to get word vomit out of me is usually a simple question...lol


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

LOL! Mo.. That's cos we're Detroiters! We have middle finger vomit and roadrage vomit too! lol


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH,

"I'll put my cape on and be right over" - I think I see a new TV show coming - Batwife!!!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Stu.. did you ever actually pass initiation into the superhero club to be able to don an actual cape? ;) How is this happening... Ah well, yeah, you do have quite a cute mustache there.. and those puppy dog eyes.. that might get you in.. unless you're of a rival club... ;)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

My kids love the soy chocolate milk! Ewwww! But whatever - I buy it for them.

Everyone needs a vice or ten Mo!

Stu - how funny would that be?! Omg! That is a stellar idea:)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Oh Kat - I knew you would let him in without an application - you are for the ethical and humane treatment of all puppies:). Stu is a very good dog - house trained - oh and political advisor!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

BBG,

I'll be right over. We should all get something from the alcohol and chocolate groups every day for good health!

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Austinstar,

Does this special milk have any bourbon in it? I like to get a balanced diet.

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Katharella,

Have not qualified for superhero status yet. Given the state of academia, I wouldn't be surprised if you could major in it though. :)

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Frog,

For Obummer, NPD is not a mental disorder, it's a policy plank.

Stu


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Truckstop Sally 5 years ago

Fun hub and questionnaire. I was below average, but the authority section was my highest. I scored 0 in vanity. So I guess I like to be in control, and would prefer doing it with a bag on my head. ha!


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Cogerson 5 years ago from Virginia

Nice hub....I would have responded earlier but we have a lot of mirrors in the house and sometimes it takes me awhile to walk through the house...actually took the quiz....and I am not a narcissist....thank goodness....a fun and interesting you have written....now I am going back to the mirror.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Sally - I scored really low in vanity too! I'll count it as a good thing! I'm glad you thought it was fun too - I love making fun of crazy stuff!

Cogerson - Thanks! Be careful not to run into a mirror when admiring yourself:). Get a hand mirror - then you can carry it every where with you! LOL


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Amy Becherer 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

You're no narcissist. You wouldn't be the involved super mom that you are if you were. You'd be fully engaged with the mirror. You're beautiful enough to be consumed with yourself, but that's the beauty of you, too. You aren't, you take it in stride, and get involved in life. You are a gorgeous real person, RealHousewife


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi Amy! You're too cute:) I loved making some fun of the topic though! I did score really low on the test - so I suppose you're right. You aren't either - I can tell:) Thanks as always for your kind words!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Without going to look, I am pretty sure you're already in Stoo! :) I thought I saw a puppy face in my list of human followers.

OK OK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK.. I'm coming clean, I did not score a -407.. I scored a 37. Only "I" did not take the test. Someone who knows me very well, took it for me, (Because I didn't want to make myself something I'm not, and people tend to do that on those types of tests) lol, and said he marked the questions he thought fit me best. So apparently I'm the perfect one. I guess that's the reason when I seen my iPhone's facetime doubled as a mirror, I still keep two other purse mirrors. One with an attached comb LOL (YaY EL lol) and the other is one of those x15 magnifiers! lol.

::sigh:: it feels good to be the odd one out. LOL.. well, cos, like he said, he's really never met anyone like me. Except for my friend Sherry, she's pretty and smart, and we gloat about that in email. LOL. It's strange you know, being a perfect person, because, she's pretty, and nobody likes us, cos we're smarter than them LOL!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Katharella,

I guess I'll have to take the test too. Whoever comes out more narcissistic gets to be POTUS in 2012, and the other gets to be VP.

Just in case you're not "natural born," don't worry about it; I don't think it matters any more. :)

Stu


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Stu, someone who knows you very well has to take the test for you! We tend to not want to think of ourselves as "this or that" but it's about how others view you. People have a hard time with educated people, readers, philosophers, philantro... no wait that don't fit.. I'm natural born because the only thing I worry about is 2012 NOT happening. Sherry and I already have our homes set up. She got a Penthouse, and I'm going to live there with her and all the cats and gods..er..dogs! Darn palindrom's :) See, I could take the test for HER, and she would most likely score a tad bit higher than me because she went back to college quicker than I did. ;)

Oh, and I wrote the hub on being a Superhero already awhile back, so I have that cornered too, but oh yeah as I said after 2012 Sherry will be POTUS and I'll be VP. After I read your political hubs, and you don't eat more chocolate (cos it's not good for doggies) and only have a once a year celebration with alcohol and no internal organs are damaged from it, then maybe you can be Speaker of the House or something. OH, and we'll make sure you get brushed everyday! (Sherry will feed you a good regimen of low fat meat, & veggies so you don't know you're getting the veggies) Actually I'd get her to try hubpages, but she'd find that beneath her time of spending as she has more important things to do. She's saving the world you know. She is not tolerant of alcohol so gotta be careful. :)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Katharella,

I think we need to make a compromise here.

(1) Speaker of the House isn't important enough for me (see, I am narcissistic). I want to be point man on vacating all laws, agencies, regulations, and EO's that violate enumerated powers (eliminate 90% of D.C.). I guess I want to be Chief Justice.

(2) The booze is non-negotiable. It's Knob Creek or I'll stay here in VT and get bashed by liberals. I'll pay for the bourbon myself (I don't want to risk morphing into Nancy Pelosi).

Hizzoner


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Stu! You're talkin' yerself into a cage! Yeah.. no... there's no negotiations as we decide on everything. Just ask Keith. Never mind he's a beta too. Now you lay down and be good or you'll drop down to an Omega real quick. ;)

You do NOT want to be called Nancy before your time. (You can point, but that's only cos yer male)

-hizzzzzzsss heh


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Stu, while I'm not QUITE as conservative as you are, I can't STAND Pelosi - but I gotta say this. The woman looks damn good for 70. Thinking she sold her soul to the devil or to Isabella Rosselini for that!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Katharella - I thought that was the dictatorship we were fighting. I think we need some "separation of powers" here.

Motown - I took a political test online comparing myself to the likely POTUS contenders, and I came out more conservative than Jim DeMint. He was my closest match at 63%. I matched Obama at under 1% (my lowest match). San Fran Nan is ugly at any age. My stomach turns whenever I see her picture. If she took any more Botox she would explode (I'd be happy to send her some).


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Mo... LOL that reminds me of Death Becomes Her LOL!!!

Stu.. there'll be no fighting because it'll be a two female Communistic society! The only separation of powers will be she's leader when I'm asleep and I'm leader when she's asleep.

::sheesh man are ya ever gonna get it:: If you stay a pooch you might have things real good, become anyone else, and yer...like not going to make the cut! We're tight. We've had this power for like 15 years. So we've already had the rules for a long time. Ever been to China? Bow to the presidential photo? You know, across from the Forbidden City..er.. Palace that is surrounded by a moat. There's flea's in the moat. yeah. ;)


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Yay, Kat! Someone caught the reference! :-)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

I'm a movieaholic lol! It's one I have not yet seen on blu ray tho! But it's on the list!!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Katharella,

Communistic society - DON'T SAY THAT. We're practically there NOW.

Ruff


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

:X ugh... oh yeah I forgot about The Patriot Act.. oh but wait, aren't we talking about AFTER this rapture of 2012 that's not really going to happen (on Dec 22, not may)?

Now now.. you don't Ruff.. cos I'll do one thing Sherry won't.. I'll put a muzzle on that snooter! Just ask my Rottenwilder! (Sherry is just smart and narcissitic, I'll actually put ya in a cage with a muzzle and bark back atcha.)

Grrrrrr


Stu From VT 5 years ago

How's "woof" (more gentle)?


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

I suppose one can woof through a muzzle.

Meow phsssssssssst!

(Retracts claws for awhile) ;)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Katharella,

We're on the same side. We gotta get along here. I assume you're a RWNJ like me. Let's join forces!!!

Woof


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Stu, regarding Nancy Pelosi and her Botox - try not to hold back...tell us how you really feel. I'm very conservative in some areas, liberal in others - and overall, I want the government out of anything that doesn't involve defending our borders, protecting the sovereignty of our nation, or looking out for the welfare of our citizens. I'm not confused, but lots of folks think I am. Oh, well...lol

Kat, that will be an awesome one on Blu-Ray - we don't have that one yet either, but I don't think my hubby got as big a kick out of it as I did. I laughed my ass off. Unfortunately, it grew back. Eh.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Motown,

I'm very conservative in some areas, and very conservative in other areas. I'm eclectic!!!

Woof


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - way up there:) you mentioned having someone who knows you take the quiz - because you can be subjective about the self - so true! Great point! While I took the quiz I tried to be very careful to think about how I saw me and the truth.

Stu - see what I mean? You're one hot dog!

MO - I'm confused too - but Pellsi is a stupid ass - and we got the dog! Stu is my advisor. Wayne Brown too - I like how he thinks. Then there's Frog Prince and Breakfastpop - check them out - fun and smart people.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

I was up all night I couldn't sleep, cos I'm too excited about going to get my DEED to my house today!! TODAY I'M AN OFFICIAL HOMEOWNER!!! YaY and when I return, I'll answer each and every question properly! Cos I have stuff to say! I really wish we could post photo responses lol..


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Caramus 5 years ago from Chicago, IL

Uh this is about narcissist's get back on topic! I scored a 32 BTW. Loaded questions....


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

No loaded questions...he is HOUSE. I've told y'all that before. :-) That's why I love him.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Congrats, Kat!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Car - that really doesn't surprise me:) We should be calling you Rico:)

Yes Mo - doctors and what not do tend to be narcissists with a God Complex. However, they did go to school for a century to get higher education so --- I can't really fault them for feeling a little superior or if someone is really educated and smart and they know it? I gotta admire that!

Kat - way cool - congrats!


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Very true, Real. And, he doesn't have the degree, but my husband is brilliant - frighteningly so, to be honest. He's smart as hell. I temper his narcissism and he draws me out to be a little more assertive when need be. We're perfect complements to each other. :-)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I bet you are. I could tell he was really intelligent from reading his work. I always try to read between the lines as a reader, and he uses colloquial language a lot but then he uses the same language to describe intricate thought processes that one could know know unless they are smart:) you know what I mean MO? Like the St. Louis story - his linguistics are that of a gangsta - and it's believable but he focuses on the important psychology of making it real without rubbing the readers face into the point by telling them:) you have to extrapolate - you feel me?


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down, babe! ;-) Both of us have been sorta screwed. We should both have multiple degrees by now. Life just doesn't always work out like it should. I'm not whining, just telling you that we both had big plans! LOL - Instead, we found each other. That's good enough for me.

And, he knows the gangsta speak - raised in South Philly - and the redneck - well, that was bred into him in Jax. :-)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Hi! I'm back! Well thanks for the congrats on having the highest score! I know I know.. :::bows::: oh wait.. you mean my house!

Thank you thank you everyone! :) Took a lot of doing without (not much cos shoes, clothes, make up, purses, jewelry.. girly things are just a basic human right) LOL Ooopsi! :)

Stu! Oh, yes was so good to see you on Ghost page! I dig him, he puts it out there!

Oh.. MO looks like I better roll on over to yer site n' catch da lowdown on yo-man yo! Next time ya get screwed lube it.

RH: When you said "his linguistics are that of a gangsta" I totally thought you were gonna quote Idiocracy, except he says "ah pimps love is very different of dat of a square".. gotta love UPGRAYDD (Two d's for a double dose of pimpin, and UPGRAYEDD he gon git his money) Massive truth to the future of our whole world if people don't cut the shit. ;)

Oh and Car: "Na Na Naaaa naaaaaaaaaaa" ;)

I gotta take the test for Sherry. lol You guys rock.

MO: You an da man see Idiocracy, cos you'll totally put the digg on! ;)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Yeah shyte happens:) All you can do is make the best of what cha got! Thats what you're doing.

South Philly huh? Interesting - he should write a story about life in South Philly, Ive never been there.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

RH no! You're not allowed! You're too sweet and people there will take advantage of your sweet nature! If me and Mo god with ya then that'd be different! :) Besides you're a mommie and mommies need to stay away from SP!! And Detroit, with the motto "where the weak are killed and eaten" and omg! LOL I have a tshirt that has a guy holding a gun to a little dogs head and the saying says: "Say nice things about Detroit" LOL! Like.. wait, what's good to say about it, uh, well there's Chinatown, but it's American..

Actually Michigan is a beautiful state! Ya just have to know where to find it, and it's not really in Detroit lol. Downtown has SOME cool places but it's got cool places like Holland where they have Tulip Festival and lotsa lakes. The Upper Peninsula is beautiful! Like, waterfalls EVERYWHERE! Super pretty! :) Philly is good in like.. cream cheese :)

::::eeeek I'm a home owner!!!::: I could NOT sleep a wink all night! Sorry still excited! :)


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Real, he's got some pretty crazy (and TRUE) stories bout growing up in Philly and going to school where he did.

No, Kat's not joking - Detroit really does have a motto "Welcome to Detroit, where the weak are killed and eaten."

And thankfully, Michigan is really a beautiful state. Wouldn't live there right now with the economic situation being what is is, but oh well.

Congrats again, Kat! I'll have to check out that movie too!


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Hello! i am ralam.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - first congrats on the house! What a process that is - so stressful till it's over:). I have heard Detroit is a little rough too! St. Louis has it's areas:). If in Detroit - only the weak get eaten I should be fine:)! LOL

MO - cool - he should write for us about that! Way interesting to me - how people live in other cities with the differences in language and what not.

Ralam4488 - I can see your name just fine - so tell us are you a narcissit?


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bingskee 5 years ago from Quezon City, Philippines

very interesting read. i believe everybody has a streak of narcissism. only to a varying degree. but to become a dangerous narcissist is something to be worried about.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Bingskee - hello! Right - everyone has a degree of a bit of everything I suspect. But as you pointed out, it is an issue when the balance is lost:). Thank you so much for reading and commenting:)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Thank you RH! Yes, and you know, I honestly don't know.. IF I didn't have those Detroit Roots (I typo'd "rotts" great typo lol) I really am not sure I could have accomplished it. Because when I comes to push and shove, I've had to literally,----- "literally" fight to get what little I've got! And it took A LOT of doing without to get it. When I was married, it was this apt. that apt. this rental house, that rental house, until I finally said, "If I don't have a HOME that I don't have to answer to anybody by the time I am 35, then I want a divorce" LOL! Well, when I was 35, we were just getting ready to close on a house, on the lake with a beautiful view. I already had everything planned out for décor.. then, I think it was like getting hit upside the head with a brick! If I had to threaten him with that, what was our marriage? The view didn't seem so appealing anymore. The little "off to the side room" for me to be on the computer.. it lost it's appeal too. When I looked at my husband well, he didn't look so appealing anymore either. I know we're not supposed to promote our other sites, but I have a youtube where I posted a little guitar thing I did, I was trying to teach my son how to read tab. Well, it's only up there because when things started going to dvd I went through my video's and found that clip. He'd pulled in the driveway, and my son cut the video off. (the old fashion BIG clunky kind) lol, but if he came in, he'd of bitched, because while I was ready to go out for our "Thursday night dinner OUT" he would still bitch because I was doing something "fun" rather than... say.. washing the ceiling!! It was obvious the house was clean alreaday LOL. .seriously. So I figured it was time to go. I'll post that video to your page so you can get a giggle and know that is why it got cut short. You'll know the background, plus I didn't want to be bashed for "not doing it as good" because he always inhibited anything I did or my son did, so getting the house on my own was I think, what I needed to do.

When I first moved here, I was feeling a bit homesick for mom n' dad, my grown kid.. (who practically packed my bags for me, as he was SICK of hearing me nag about winters and mean people) LOL. So, yeah my DEAR friend said he was moving south back home and would have a spare room if I wanted to go I was welcome. So after mom told me to stop taking care of everyone else and think of myself for a change, and dad too, I JUMPED at the chance, and have been working on getting on MY OWN to feet since then. And when I say it didn't come easy, when my mom was dying I had to go be with her, and when I returned I had to live in a house condemned but the landlord was still a schumck and turned on electricity so I could do ebay and auctions and save! He let the "rent" go to keeping the bill paid, so I never bothered to get a bed, so yeah, I slept literally with cockroaches on the floor. But someone I knew came over and he gave me a paper and said "THAT IS GOING TO BE YOUR HOME".. it was this house. :) Now when I am a shopaholic, lol I don't feel so bad about it. I still get child support money due from 30 years ago, but I raised my son working double jobs and sometimes double shifts when I was with the troll (that's his nickname) LOL. Sorry for the book, I just hope nobody was blind sighted that anything came easy.

And about what you say to MO.. there is, it's called "Ebonics"

I agree relam4488.. OH too close to a 1488.. Um... yeah have someone who knows you well take it, I, for one would LOVE to know a true score on that! As I think me posting my true result proves that we don't like to face facts about ourselves, like "No I don't want to be center of attention" when you might of forgotten..." when I took it I said no to that question, and scored lower. But then the person who took it for me, said, why was it a joke among your friends at the club there was a piece of wide tape with your name on it.. :) I indeed do have a photo of it, but it was in the days when I did drink at times I didn't have to work, and it was one of the reasons I didn't view alcohol so good anymore either. It brings out a person inside that you really don't want others to see, and it makes you do things that you would not ordinarily do. The non-drinking me is just as truthful, but it's not as unbecoming as a woman who drinks. Since my ex mother in law, I've realized that men might find a tipsy "girl" cute, but as you get older it's so unbecoming on a woman. And not so handsome on a man either. That bar taught me a plethora of what alcohol will do. I did my one time a year alcohol with my mimosa! (AND HOME ALONE)LOL!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - I had a husband that stopped being so appealing like that! I know just what you mean. He didn't look so cute anymore. Better to git while the gittin is good! LOL

I agree - alcohol can only be ingested in moderation! Right - grown women just look pathetic when too drunk! I keep my limit at a couple usually. I do get paltered on occasion but I don't behave much differently than normal:). I'm going on a float trip this weekend and I'm sure I'll drink way too much:)


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

A float trip sounds divine. You can have my alcohol, I don't drink. Just act like it.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I don't often but beer never tastes better than when you're burning to death in a metal canoe - it goes down pretty easy;).

The float is awesome - 5 miles on the Upper Meramec. It's supposed to be sunny and 80 all weekend! The kids have a blast and they are so much fun. I can't wait!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

RH: Oh, if I hadn't of already burned all my ex mother in laws pix.. you'd never drink a drop again! LOL Yeah, that bad! And if I showed you the medical photos of what it did to my ex bf's esophagus, you'd never go out of moderation! It effects everyone different. I'll stick to the cancer cure! Ah la natural! Giggles rather than hospitals!

Oh the float thing sound fun! It's supposed to be 80 here all week too! I was just looking at suits! I'm thinking I'll have to stuff my top part with flotation devices tho! It's the ocean, it can get kinda rough out there! I'll have to ditch those melons or be shark bait! LOL


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Wil C 5 years ago from United States of America

Interesting article RealHousewife. I do believe everyone has a bit of narcissistic tendencies. Everyone is usually aware of their own flaws quicker than anyone else. Which leads me to believe that narcissus's are very good at rationalizing. They can find a way to justify most anything. I did take that test, but I found myself knowing how each question effected my score(which I imagine many did as well). So if a narcissus was taking the test, I guess she or he could actually determine if she or he wanted to be labeled that way. It was definitely an entertaining article. Thumbs Up.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - you're so lucky to have the ocean! But right - it's a lot rougher than this river! Wear a lifejacket:)!

Wil C - hi and thank you for your great comments! I do think that everyone knows what the answers would be - but since you are only doing it for personal knowledge there wouldn't be much point in cheating. I think what you are talking about might be mixing in another disorder! Haha!


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Wil C 5 years ago from United States of America

Haha! It's a possibility. I would imagine any Narcissus would also need to be a liar at some point which he would immediately fall back on his superior rationalizing skills to accommodate. There were also a few questions I thought, well it depends on my mood. That said, I did score a little higher on it then most in here, but it was still below average. It was fun, thanks.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

You're welcome:). I bet narcissists do lie to themselves all the time - they keep telling themselves how wonderful everyone else thinks they are. Haha!


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Wil C 5 years ago from United States of America

I wonder how a room full of narcissists would communicate with each other. I imagine it would be extremely frustrating, since all each one would want to do is talk about themselves. Probably a bunch of people shouting over each other telling them to pay attention to me.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

They would probably be asking each other if they could borrow their pocket mirror or asking each other if they looked good;) lol!


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Darknlovely3436 5 years ago from NewYork

Another great Hub: however is it wrong to be in love with yourself


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Yes I know lovely:)!! Thanks for the comments:)!


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Caramus 5 years ago from Chicago, IL

Will C, A room full of us narcissists would communicate on a level you lesser beings cannot comprehend. Our minds, telepathy is out there. ;p


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

LOL Car!


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Jane Bovary 5 years ago from The Fatal Shore

OMG I'm not revealing what I got for that test, not even under torture.

So you blow yourself hot kisses? Haha..I loved that line.I also love the story of Narcissus - there's definitely a lesson to be learnt there.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

No, no, Jane - hot, SULTRY kisses! That was brilliant wasn't it?


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Jane - really? I don't believe you! But you are awfully smart so you know, you probably are superior:)

Right - I couldn't think of anything more narcissistic than kissing myself!

MO - I read in the ABC's of writing that your are supposed to try to get the readers attention in the first paragraph. LOL!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

I have to slightly disagree there about loving yourself. For an instance. I love myself to the degree I would not do things to harm myself on purpose. Like say, I like to dress well when I go out, due to my parents teaching me to have pride in myself. I would not become an alcoholic because I've seen the devastation it's caused to people I love. I would not do cocaine because I value my sinus problems "as is' LOL and unless it came straight off the coca plant, I don't want it in my body. So I think we all should love ourselves to a degree.

RH: LOL at "superior" remember "inferior"??? hahaha.. that was great! I felt so.. superior LOL! That was funny.

A true narcissist "I" believe would be sort of Sociopathic because they would have spent too much time on themselves to worry about someone else.

And lol yes I love being by the ocean, but the sand just WILL NOT stay at the beach!! LOL. I find it months later still little bits in my hair that didn't wash out, and well, other nooks and crannies ;) lol. I'm getting a new suit this weekend though! And a cute floaty thing so me don't drown! I'm thinking of one of those one pieces with the dress/skirt thing attached so I can wear a swim ring around it LOL then people can just think I have a SUPER DUPER waistline! Although that will blow the whole thing of getting the lifeguard to come and save me when I do that "fake help" scream... um.. decisions decisions. :) I better go with the flotation device in the bra area. THAT'S IT! I'LL GET A DOUBLE D CUP SUIT AND USE STYROFOAM! *smirk*


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - I would never hurt myself either! Because it would hurt! I would not do drugs - unless someone gave them to me for free.**** (that's the sarcastic asterisk everyone)!

Narcissists are sociopathic and can be psychopathic! It really is all about them. I'm pretty sure my ex was - I used to say the problem was I loved him and he loved him even more:)!! Lol!

Wear the life ring - pretend it has a slow leak!


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Well, it worked for sure, Real! ;-)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I actually had to go do it - I mean look at myself in the mirror and blow myself a kiss! LOL! I did lmao too - because it was so ridiculous! I mean you should try it anytime you need a good laugh. I was writing it and was trying to figure out which adjective to use. Hot and sultry made me laugh!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hey RH,

Can you add an old Christina Amphlett song to the main post? I bet you can guess which one. :)

Stu


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

RH: you're ex reminds me of a guy I went out on a double date with. When my friend and I got a moment to talk alone, she said, 'I didn't mean to set you up with a guy who isn't sure if he is in love with himself or his car more" it was hysterical.

Slow leak. .yeah good thinkin'... ;)


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

To all my BFF's here - I'm blowing you all a KISS!

We are very deserving of kisses.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - you are the smartest dog! I'll say it again:) let me guess did you mean' "I Touch Myself" LOL too funny dawg! Why didn't I think of that? Perfect!

Kat - yeah, I saw him last summer - he tried to get me to meet up with him (a clandestine meeting!) i don't have a gun anymore so there's no point:)

Austin - I, personally, thank you! I needed that - there's not as much satisfaction when you only blow kisses to yourself! I hope you don't have to work today. I have to figure out how to remove the tree on my lawn. Big Dave is not happy about that.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Woot, Austin! Are they hot, SULTRY kisses? That's all I'll take. :-)


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

Hot, sultry kisses are the only ones I have, Mo.

RealHo - Call a tree removal person! Do not try to do it yourself. I can picture you with a chain saw and it's not pretty.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

OMG, Austin, I was going to tell her the same thing about the tree and the chainsaw! I got a visual this morning...it was scary! LMAO

Awesome - hot, sultry kisses all around then!! *BLOWS*


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Austin - no wonder Bob is such a happy guy and singing all the time:-)

I think Dave is going to do it - you know I'd kill myself. I was using the electric trimmer last year to cut the hedges - I cut the electrical cord in half instead! LOL. Oops! I've been shocked pretty good a couple of times - I learned NOT to clean an electric stove by prying the burners off with a butter knife. I figured it out when I was getting back up off the floor!


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Astra Nomik 5 years ago from Edge of Reality and Known Space

This is a great Hub. I enjoyed reading this immensely. There is , I feel, much more to this subject than stated here. People can fall in love with other people who are reflections of themselves. People with the same hobbies, interests, appearance, likes, dislikes, skin color, sexual orientation....the list is endless.

It seems finding true love or just finding love is somewhere opposite Narcissism, but closely related. I wonder what commenters make of this? I am very interested in this subject...


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi Astra - thank you so much! I think you're right on - people tend to see their reflections in other people and love them - and sometimes when we see pieces of ourselves in other people we hate them. most of the time people aren't picking up on that stuff though;). When I am disgusted by someone - I often wonder what's up with me? Why am I not liking what I see? Hmmmmm. Very interesting point you've raised - thank you!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH - RIGHT!!! That's the song. Maybe you can add it as a favor for Sheepie!

Stoo


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Sure I will - I wish I would have thought of it myself:)!!! Lol!


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Sharyn's Slant 5 years ago from Northeast Ohio USA

I DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ ALL THE GREAT COMMENTS ON THIS GREAT HUB! I began to read them but damn, so much time needed and my ass is sore. Must get up and move around:) Maybe I'll be back . . .

Nice job Kel! I seriously love how you can stir things up :)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Sharyn - hey there - Well move your ass around by all means sister! LOL! Well these comments sometimes just take a life of their own! Thanks so much for YOUR great addition:)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH - Yea!!!!!!!!!!!! You did it!!! That's one of my favorite songs.

Thank you!!!!!

Stu


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - so funny:). I had to laugh when I saw Austin Powers Dance - I like the song too!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

"My name is Austin Danger Powers. Danger is my MIDDLE name." I remember that video from the movie; it was hilarious.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Astra makes a very valid point! I never like anybody who isn't as cool as me! And I can find middle ground, cos Middle Ground is my middle name! (that's a movie quote but I highly doubt anybody will get it) heh..


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - it is hilarious! I just love that kind of humor too - so silly! I have laughed each time I watched the video and my 9 year old found it extremely hilarious! Lol!

Kat - explain please because I don't get it!


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Granny's House 5 years ago from Older and Hopefully Wiser Time

I took the test and scored a 4! Does that mean I am boring? heheh


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Granny - I sure hope it doesn't mean that because I scored low too:) No - I think it means we are rational!!


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Granny's House 5 years ago from Older and Hopefully Wiser Time

Can I be fun and rational? lol

Tina


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

YaY I'm still the winner!! lol.. It's a movie quote Kel. :D


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Tina - yes that is the best!!!

Kath - What movie?


djyonos 5 years ago

thank you for this, I reposted it to my fb wall. What is you opinion on the French sentiment of noblesse oblige and how it relates to narcissism?


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Djyonos - merci beaucoup! Je ne sais pas? C'est difficile savoir. Qu'est-ce vous pence?


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hey RH,

That's pretty good. I took alot of French in high school. Are you fluent?

Stu


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - No - im certainly not fluent. I wish.I took two years of it for my college credits but I loved it! I got straight A's and "tested out" of French 3 and went straight to French 4 (Reading). I still try to practice by reading French Magazines and listening to French films:) sometimes I fall asleep while listening to them hoping I will retain it better! Haha! I read it much better than I can hear it in conversation. It's maddening.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

But, it's impressive, Kel...lol I can pray in Polish, but only if I'm reading it, like you with French. I understand very little of it spoken, but I know the phonetics so I can read it like I'm a pro...lol


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Neat Mo! I wish I would have taken more languages. I suppose the love for reading and writing would fall into place with love for written word and the need to make sense of them.I was thinking about taking Spanish! Through the community ity college - not for credit.

So Polish - do their letters sound much like ours? That's cool Mo. I also love the sound of Russian - or Austrailian! Oh la la!


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Hahaha...I love the sound of all Slavic languages (Polish, Russian, etc...) Most of their letters sound like ours but some are very, very different. I wish I knew more. Michael and I are very seriously considering investing in the Rosetta Stone for Polish...the majority of the foreign population in Chicago is either Hispanic or Polish, so either language would be a bonus for us. Ukrainian (Ukraine used to be a part of the Soviet Union) sounds a lot like Polish because Ukraine and Poland are so close. My religious community when I was a sister was founded in Poland. That's how I learned the very little I know. Spanish is always a good language to know in the U.S. because so much of our non native population speaks that language, yanno?


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Yes I have kicked myself several times for taking French rather than Spanish! So dumb - I mean we have a gazillion people fluent in Spanish here. I want to go to France someday - so I took French basically for a two week vacation! LOL

My mom wants to learn Spanish on Rozetta Stone - so funny you mention that. She just said I should learn Spanish that way and then write a hub about it. I said well that would be one expensive hub to write! Ha!


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

So do the hub on French! Spanish is nice, especially for poetry.

You can use your French in Canada. When I was in Montreal, I felt so special because everyone was calling me Madame, which in Texas has a whole 'nother meaning. But it was melodic they way they said it.

I had a friend from Bolivia who lived for many years in Europe and never spoke anything other than Spanish. It's almost a universal language like English.

I much prefer the romance languages over the gutteral ones. That's not romantic at all sounding like you are coughing up a lugie.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Austinstar! LOL! Madame;) And wouldn't that be the Texan way? They say everything so politely. In St. Louis they call those "ladies" something a little more vulgar!

I wonder if they use French much in Louisiana anymore? I think they would have a Cajun dialect though....I have been hooked on this show "Swamp People" which takes place in Louisiana - you have to catch that! I bet you would like it too - these guys catch Aligators! They have to thin out the population because they threaten the people near the Bayou. It is fascinating - I want to go back there and cruise the swamps:)

You pegged that one - it does sound like they are coughing up a lugie! Like German - that's rough. The romance languages are my favorite and I heard that they are so closely related if you learn one its easier to learn the other 4 - I think there are 5?


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

I don't think it's classified as a Romance language, but that's how I think of Russian. I think it's a beautiful sounding language. And, I have a weird thing for Russian men. I think they're hot as hell!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I am fascinated by Russia - period! The KGB - spies! Vodka! I had an uncle who disappeared for like forty years. Grandma's only brother. He was in the AF - somehow he ended up working on a technical computer thing - high tech for those times. He had a partner. The Russians approached him and told him they wanted to know how the thingy was made - he said, "over my dead body." So they killed him. Uncle Dick found out he was killed and got out of dodge. Grandma and he finally got back in touch after he retired from the service. He had been all over the world - living in foreigh countries all those years. He died but I would have LOVED to given him a polygraph about his years in the service! So - now you know why I am really interesed in that country! He said stuff like that happened every day.


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Austinstar 5 years ago from Somewhere in the universe

OK, Mo, I think that's weird. Russian men? They all look so sneaky or something.

I really like tan and tall.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Austin, I like the big and boorish ones that look like bears (like Tevya in Fiddler on the Roof and my husband...lol).

Real, I've read a lot of historical novels about Russia...and I always want more.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Motown,

I was thinking about getting Rosetta Stone. I took many years of French in middle and high school, and really loved it. Sadly, I've forgotten most of it, but I bet I could learn it back again quickly as I have a head start.

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH,

There are six national romance languages: French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, and Catalan. There are numerous other romance sub-national languages, as well as regional romance dialects.

Stu


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Da! Yes! lol my only Russian word. I too am fascinated by Russia and their culture. Kel, when you're relative said "over my dead body" they took him serious. It's a VERY frugal language. (I had a Swiss friend who didn't understand slang, and I said "Daniel that is the shit" and he showed me to the restroom) LOL. With Russia tho, I have it high up in my Google Earth program lol, because they actually let you see way more of it than China. You can only get few snaps of China. But if you've not seen The Hunt For Red October, it's so frugal that you almost don't need to read what they are saying because when you hear the English, you can gather what they are conveying back! I actually did an online learning of Russian, and one thing about their (and other far Eastern) languages is some of their letters mean things like.. say if we said "communication" we say "tion" as "shun" all that is cut out and is a symbol for a sound. China does it too, and one thing I thought kinda neat but sad, is that the AT "@" symbol in China means "Love Him." There was a couple who wanted to name their little boy @ but their Government wouldn't let them. They don't have enough letters to make unique names like we do, so they wanted something different but ah, just like in Germany, you cannot name your baby Adolf. I was going to legally change my name to "Fuck Off" but found out, I can change my last name to "off" but not my first to "Fuck" LOL I almost went with Phuck LOL! If anyone wants to learn Spanish online, you can get a good start from 123teachmeDOTcom If anything you'll be able to read it, some of the people speak to quickly, but when the kids speak it's slower like they like to teach. it's a great site and is used in schools.


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

A head start is always good, Stu. I just wish that Rosetta Stone wasn't so expensive! It's a great program, and I know that because I know others who have used it. AND, they've got knockoff types in the store. The whole immersion concept to me is as close you can get into throwing yourself into the culture in another country, you know?


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

Kat, you're my trivia source for the day! That is such interesting information. I'm going to have to check out that website. I personally LOVE the sound of Russian. I would love to be able to learn Polish and Russian...those are my first two language desires - despite the Romanticism and, in the U.S., the utility of Spanish.


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Sun-Girl 5 years ago from Nigeria

Awesome and quite a fascinating hub you actually shared in here which i love.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hey one of you guys should contact Rosetta Stone and tell them to give you a free bee and if you like it and find it easy to learn you will write a hub about it? Maybe they will cut you a break?

Stu - you'd pick it right back up. I have a couple of apps that are free with instructional French exercises - I do those while I'm waiting for the bus or have a few minutes. It helps keep it a little fresher. Some of them are really good!

I've also heard of people that learn new languages by watching t.v. That's why I listen and watch movies in French and I turn English subtitles on. Fro as well plus you learn some slang. The books never teach you the dirty words. I did buy a French dictionary of dirty words but someone borrowed it:(


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

MO - I am always surprised by Kats knowledge! She just has bits tucked in her head about everything. You can totally tell that lots of us are readers;)

Sun Girl - well thank you very much!


Motown2Chitown 5 years ago

She really does, Real! I wanna see more hubs from that woman! :-) Did you hear me, Kat?! ;-)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I second that! Did you hear that Kat?


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hey RH,

I probably will get Rosetta Stone when I have a little more time to devote to it.

I still remember all the French swear words. Just ask if you need any (very handy - you can attack your enemies in complete stealth - when they ask, just say it means "good morning" or something like that).

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

I third and fourth that. I'm allowed to vote twice (I used an SEIU serviced voting machine).


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - let me know how it works! I would like to learn Spanish too. I am really curious if it works.

You can have 5 votes Stu - take one from the lazy people who don't use their vote:)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi RH,

Will do. Things are busy right now with work and bombarding Congress with emails, but I'd really like to fit this in somehow. I suspect this software is very good though. Alot of Fortune 500 companies and major federal agencies use it. Also, it's amazing how many languages they offer (something like 30 or more).

Stu


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - I know - I didn't even realize there were that many languages! If I get my hands on one first, I'll let you know;)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH - OK, cool, Stu


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

lolz (I'm getting addicted to the z on lol now) yea yea yea.. I need to type a hub.. I just got my house and really am doin' lota switchin' n' changing before work men get tearing things apart! :)

I am very good friends with a girl who lives in Warsaw. She's from Texas so I'm guessing she's good, I'll ask her how she learned and get back with ya.

RH: You brought up a great idea with the getting disk and pausing them. But while you can do that sometimes they're not always facing the camera. BUT I did learn a little french by a video (back in the day of vhs lolz) heh, the girl would say it slowly so you could see the way her lips and tongue formed. Lots of our words are latin, so it'd be a good place to start on which ones are latin or derived from. Also remember too that a lot of our words are the same with different meanings. The only thing that really makes English harder is we have things like "two, to, too" they don't. My friend is taking Spanish right now for her Archeology dig. She typed out a sentence, and while I don't know spanish other than what I learned at 123teachme, I said "And your DentiaIST(sarcasm) is going to be pissed when he sees you've not stopped drinking Mt.Dew" lol!

When learning any other language I find it easiest to shoot for BEING SLOW and learning the alphabet, (alpha-greek) and colors, and nouns.

Austin* is helping me with my pain, and she said something (I'm still waiting on my Dr.'s return call I'm assuming he's researching it)I HOPE, she said Omega3. I thought.. omg.. I want Alpha3, maybe even Beta3, Delta or gamma, but WHY Omega. nothing like wanting to be 1st. lolz heh. I'll ask my friend about learning polish, but one thing to remember, the older you get, the harder it is to learn a new language. When babies are taught two growing up, that part of their speech center in the brain is more colorful on a ct scan than that of an adult. NOT TO SAY getting older is a reason to stop learning.

STU: I'm in on the letters to Congress, I haven't kept up with Ghost as of late, but I have a few to hound (heh, pun intended) them with myself. NC is on the brink of a new ADD med, which I need as well as for another 3 other ailments. I know someone with Sleep Apnea and it will help him too so we need to get this bill 577 to pass and I don't think this time it's going to be that hard as they're ppl like me, who cannot take add med, that this certain strain is equal to and I have proof in a 4.0 gpa and sleep patterns, as well as chronic pain that were not as exacerbated until I stopped that and began narcotic hell.

I am willing to submit my personal medical info as well as some non's that have seen the transitions and how detrimental these other meds have been to my health as well as keeping me mentally depressed rather than focused and busy. NOT having it has been extremely harmful to a number of physical abilities that were NOT present before. Just gotta brush buckies more often, which I know doggies hate, but my dog also benefited as she was quite the lil' thief in her day.. when there was quality. She snubs non quality and dogs don't tend to lie unless they are the one who broke the lamp, but their eyes ALWAYS give them away. (as well as that droopy face you can't be mad at) NC needs bill 577 passed. Thanks FOR ALL YOUR HELP FOR A HEALTHIER country and maybe we can phase out everything but burbon::ahem:: if you're good. :)

I LOVE YOU GUYS. I wanna go back to college really bad, and despite I live 30 miles from town 10 miles up the road is a community college!! :) I want to go!!! Badly, plus read all the books I have that I'm ready to give up on. (although I'm doing well with my Gone with the wind trivia book LOL)

It's all about how pretty dresses were back then, forget all that war part, it's just drama)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

OH have you guys Google Earthed Russia yet? Oh I love the Kremlin, I want to live there. :) Da!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - you are a treasure:). I'm so glad you got the house! You must be busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest. Hey MO knows some Polish. She can pray in Polish anyhow;)

I think you should go back to school if you want! I love taking classes and probably will keep taking things that interest me until I'm dead.

I should watch Gone With the Wind again! I have bought that one;)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Aw tanks, if only we could open me and find money! LOL!!! OMG you're killing me with the one legged man thing.. was at my buddy's wedding. His grandpa has one leg, but has his fake off and it was leaning upside down on the side of the house.. well, you KNOW I'm not going to let that prime wedding pic go to waste! LOL I snapped it upside down with tennis shoe n' all, and when he copied the pix off my card, HE POSTED IT TO HIS WEDDING PHOTOS!! We say we are the brother and sister that neither of us ever had.

Oh I'm going back to school there's no iffin' about that! I just want to maintain that 4.0 and I can't do it without the add med. And as soon as Scott gets here he's taking classes too, so me and my honey bunny will be schoolin' it together.

Oh.. I LOVE GWTW!!!! I couldn't get tired of it for nothing! While I do have the dvd, I still have it in my queue in Netflix so I can see it on Blu ray. lol. Now with the trivia book (I got NEW FOR .50 at the resell shop go figure) I'll pick up on some of the questions I skipped over! I truly love the book, and I'm that person who WRITES THE ANSWER IN THE BOOK lol!! I figure it's mine, I'm using it! lol. There's something that comes over a person who had eyesight, lost it, and was able to regain it. I kinda felt like.. I'm never going to get rid of it until I finish it so WHY not write them in! :) Oh, I did a hub if you wanna check it out, and I did post links from my friend in Warsaw.. musta been on Mo's other site.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - I just read a new hub of yours I bet that is the one you mean? Where you were giving yourself a little trouble for not getting enough done on Sun? Lol!

I loved Gone with the Wind so much! Rhett Butler and Scarlette! Omg! Classic.

I do not write in my books but I do always place a sticker with my name and add. On them so if I loan them out I'll hopefully get them back:)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Um, let's just say, there needed to be a general place so jibber jabber wouldn't detour others from topics they came to read about. I'd hate to be the cause of someone turning away! I have hubs in the makin' :) no worries!

I'll ALWAYS love GWTW.. I just love Vivian Leigh and what a perfect choice for her! "I'll think about it tomorroa"

As far as the book, no.. the original owner had already a few WRONG lol answers in, so I fixed them, but no, I think it was someone I read on there that had a ":(" after loaning a book out and never seeing it again.. you? Not sure but my dad once told me, NEVER loan a book or you might as well give it away you'll NEVER see it again. Well, I did once, and sure enough, never seen it again (it was on female clairvoyance) GONE! Then got a book for Christmas and hadn't had a chance to read it (Tommyknockers Stephen King) and was asked to borrow.. I said my husband bought that as a gift and I WILL GET IT BACK UNSCATHED! Promises promises.. "well I broke up with my bf and I'm not going back to get it" I said "Well, that'll be $6.00 then" She looked at me AS IF!!! I said I'm serious, I want the money or the book! She took her $6. out and said my god remind me never to ask to borrow something from you again. I said, no need, the answer is already no! LOL we did remain friends for awhile, until she moved, but we didn't stop being friends, she just got on drugs and didn't want me yelling at her about it. COME TO FIND OUT her oldest daughter is the daughter of my bf's brother!!! Long story short.. last time I seen her, she was 15 and pregnant and I took her out to get food cos there was NONE in the house! I was pissed and blew off at her mother cos of it. Gave her some and said HIDE IT for later, but when I went back over they'd moved out!! ::sigh:: No more book lending though nope! I do have some however I'm donating to our town, we're going to get a library!!!! YaY!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

It was a great idea - for those of us who just really like checking in and saying hello too;)

You're right about lending books - I usually do not get them back. I'll only lend to family cuz I can hound them;) my goodness you don't already have a Library in town? I don't know why I'm surprised - we don't have a good bookstore in our town. I have to drive over to the next little city:(. It is exciting though - and funny that we would be the type to think so! Lol


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

The only reason we're getting a library is because its beside the playground for the kids. No, we have a tiny general store, a post office about as big as my living room and the town hall doubles as a fire department. LOL.. no when I say I live in a small town, I'm talking BLINK and miss it. :) It's mostly farmland is the only reason I can say it's bigger than 2 blocks.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Omg! I didn't realize your town was that small! I have lived in towns like that and I tell you, life can be very interesting in small towns;) I want to retire in a town like that.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Yes, that is why I TALK TO NO ONE!!!! NO ONE! I will drive into town to get one little thing rather than go to my own town store. Not cos I don't want to support my town, but ONE WORD and it might as well be on the news :::NEWSFLASH::: KATHY ALLEN HAS SWITCHED FROM PEPSI TO MT. DEW AND BOUGHT A BEER "GASP" lol seriously.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I know! I know! Omg! I used to purposely say a little something (always silly not to be hurtful) but just to watch it spread like Wild fire! It works in the office place too:)!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Katharella,

What exactly does Bill 577 do?

Thanks, Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RealHo (hehe, I can say that cause we're buddies),

Con - Telling someone "you can't tell this to anyone" means everyone will know with a few days.

Pro - If you draw a picture of a duck, ask someone to copy it, ask someone to copy the second, and so on for about 30 iterations, you'll get a picture of an English Sheep Dog.

So, the secret will be out, but it may have nothing to do with what you originally said.

Stu


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Stu - lol! Yes you are puppied in and can use RealHO:)

Too funny and so true! Doesn't everyone love a delishious secret? Nothing so irresistable. I always say if you want someone to listen - whisper:)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH,

That is so true. If you scream something from the rooftop, nobody will listen. If you whisper, everyone will want in on what they don't have a right to know.

Glad to be puppied in.

Ruff!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Right Stu - "Come here I have to tell you a secret" are mighty powerful words;)! Lol! I'm working on a couple of hubs now but one of them - I just can't wait for you to read:). Funny!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Stu read about murdered highly decorated Christian Veteran Perry Parks. He lived in Rockingham NC and stationed at FT Bragg and was in search of getting away from Narcotics for his pain. Other Veterans have made a website for him wwwtheperryparksDOTcom, but this is not for "fun hippies" it's for people IN HORRIBLY PAIN and other ailments that pills are causing them more detrimental effects to their health.

The police came into his home, maced him and shot him in front of his wife and daughter. All he was trying to do is get pain relief, and he said it worked, and please read his story before you pass judgment on him, anyone else who reads this please! http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/house/PDF...

People can think what they want, but if people drink alcohol or smoke cigs, or drink coffee to over extent for the caffeine, then they are self medicating for a reason. It's time to stop lining the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies and take control of our lives back. There WAS a time in history when alcohol was illegal, but young people don't know diddly about the prohibition, nor do they want to learn about it, but if their alcohol was taken from them they'd be seeking other forms of relief from their mental and physical pain, and nobody can argue that fact. I think you know that already though, don'tcha Stu ;)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

HI RH,

Looking forward to them!

Stu


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Kat - thanks for keeping things alive girl;)

Stu - I will tell you Obama and Clinton are in it! Lol!


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Katharella,

Thanks for the good post and link.

Stu


Stu From VT 5 years ago

RH,

Sounds intriguing. Will anxiously await.

Stu


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Stu, pass that to Ghost please.. or any other Vets who need pain control! PTSD or any other ailment.. there is a list, and please don't let these people suffer any longer if there is a GOD GIVEN PLANT that helps them, and they want it, then they deserve it! ANY Vets in NC near FT Bragg need to know of Perry Parks, he was not just some guy who wants to get high, he wanted OUT OF PAIN. He fought for this country the least we can do is help these people who are short of drinking gasoline to help their pain get some relief from the mental and physical hell narcotics put them through.

So are you going to anxiously await, or write congress and tell them our country need to help these vets who fought your YOUR FREEDOM? hummmmmmmmm?


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Katharella,

Gotta think about this one. I know about the pain issues, but for some MJ is a pathway to more serious drugs that can cause overdose. People might start on MJ for medicinal reasons, but later get hooked, and want a better high. This is not a one-sided question.

Stu


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

Stu.. I really thought you were smarter than that. If it was a path way, then why did a highly decorated officer want a step down. You didn't even read up on him. If it's a drug people get "hooked on" then whey did I have it from age 13 to age 40, and stop and move away? Um, I didn't get hooked, and I know many many people who have never gone past that one thing. No drug is one sided, but obviously you need to endure some narcotic hell, because I am one person who wants OUT of narcotic HELL and into a lesser form and more controllable relief.

You go look up some statistics of how many deaths have became of narcotics and how many deaths have become of MJ.. do that research and get back with me. Or.. you could sit around and lick your but while veterans get hooked on morphine and have their intestinal tracts torn up, then become addicted to laxatives and their bowels begin to become dependent on them. How many people have DIED from both, look it up and get back to me on that... seriously. How many livers have been ruined due to alcohol? How many livers have been ruined due to MJ? Answer that, convince me with SOLID SCIENTIFIC PROOF and you'll sway my opinion.

This isn't about getting high it's about getting out of pain. Get back to me on that. Statistics. Google it.

I get a much better high on a couple Vikes and a benzo.. but I'd rather not have my intestines tore up. Don't be media brainwashed or whatever it is your parents told you, or just go pour out your liquor and do without that self medication. I'm for bringing back the prohibition. People that think it's not just one sided need their drug taken away. I'm for taking alcohol away. All of it. ;)


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Katharella,

Your conclusion may be correct. I wasn't saying your point of view is wrong; I was simply saying it is not an issue I have studied deeply enough to have a credible opinion.

Stu


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Legalization will be a dual situation forever. Just like abortion. You will have a portion of people that are for it (and for excellent reasons!) and you will have a portion that are against it (and for excellent reasons!) then you will have people that experience more of life and change their minds for some reason.

I'm just all about allowing us to have personal choices. When you are allowed to choose for your own reasons - based on what you have seen in your life - it will be less of an issue.

I am bothered by a drug - that can help people - not be allowed to be used. If it helps someone - let them have it. Just like narcotics though - it should be strictly regulated.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

That's the point Kelly, it would be strictly regulated as a drug that is what it's about. I would like to eliminate using a narcotic to control my pain, and another ailment, but it isn't a personal choice like abortion, so I need to disagree on that.

Abortion is murder and not healthy, and can be of much regret later as someone I once knew, cried for years having done it. It cannot be UNdone.. BUT having pain relieved rather than the damages of alcohol, which I knew someone did to "enhance" his narcotic and nearly died, like I said to Stu, show me PROOF someone has died from it physically, as I can show you proof of physical damages of abortion and alcohol. I'm divorced due to alcohol, and a girl I knew was told she'd never be able to bear children because her uterus was damaged during a procedure.

I guess it's time to stop wasting time on people who only care about themselves. I'm glad Michigan legalized, because it prolonged the life of a loved friend who was dying of cancer. BUT.. I'm sure nobody really cares about her or others, or the highly decorated Veteran who was gunned down just outside FT Bragg. People who don't care, just can't be made to care. One cannot inform those who don't want to be informed. I'll not bring it up to either of you again. I promised a dying Veteran I would help him, and I guess although I'm not a dying Vet, I still will fight for my country and the Veterans who I nursed their tears for 8 years.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I'm not disagreeing with you on either point. I did not say I agreed or disagreed with abortion - I said I think it should be a personal choice is all. I wouldn't judge anyone for what they felt was the right thing for them,

I think marijuana should be legalized for anyone who needs it.

Both arguments - to me - should be a choice every American has.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America

I know you didn't. But the two cannot compare, as abortion is murder at any stage, and cannabis has never killed anybody. What choice did the aborted baby get. (That's not a question, because if people didn't let doctors perform abortions, it'd be done the old fashion way and women would die too.) Then two deaths would have occurred.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I didn't mean to compare the two that way - only that those are two examples of things that I think should be a personal choice. I'm not saying they even belong in the same conversation other than private rights, really.


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epigramman 5 years ago

...well when you look like me you can't afford to be a narcissist - lol - that's why I've got the cat in this picture with me - lol - and it took me so long to scroll down to the bottom of the screen that I came up with a famous brand new epi top ten list for you:

TOP TEN THINGS THAT EPI DID WHEN PUTTING THIS SCREEN ON 'AUTOMATIC' SCROLL:

10. prepared his morning pot of coffee

9. fed his cats

8. put the Real Housewife on his honor list

in his profile introduction hubpage

7. phoned into work and checked my starting time tonight

6. had a banana

5. checked the weather forecast on the TV

4. went back outside to check on my cats

3. came back here and sat down

2. and thought about this most definitive hub on narcissism and how well you write and provoke your readers into all of this feedback

1. ....and c'mon let's be serious here: in my profile picture, really, who is the pretty one ...¸lol


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Epi - you crack me up! Lol. Beauty is only skin deep my friend:) I have known some gorgeous top notch jerks in my day! Haha! And at the end of the day - the only reflection I have to live with is my own. I hope I can smile back at it with every glimpse I get. I am positive that YOU can.

As always you use words in the most beautiful way! Thank you for gracing this hub with your presence.


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Neil Sperling 5 years ago from Port Dover Ontario Canada

cool hub and fun test -- wow -- I'm almost someone who is a star and famous... almost.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Thank you Neil - this was super fun to research and write:) I checked out your profile page alone and I have to agree with you - you for sure have star quality! Lol. Thanks for the read and great compliment!


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fpherj48 5 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

RealHousewife....I see this is an older hub, but since I'm just a few months into the Hub community, I'm "catching up" with as many fellow-hubbers as possible. I'll guess this is the case with most newbies...My goodness! What an INCREDIBLE response you got to this hub!! I thought I would never scroll down to the END! When you wrote this, did you expect all these visitors?? You did? Oh yeah, that's right, you're a narcissist..lol...kidding kidding! What went through my BIG head as I read this was...."Hmmmmm, you could actually change the Title of this Hub to: "All about Casey Anthony." It is stunning how very much your definitions describe her to a TEE! Don't you agree?


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi fpherj48 - you are so right! Casey Anthony is one of the biggest narcissists in history! Great example!

Ohhh be careful dropping down those hub rabbit holes! Lol. You can end up in hub land forever and a day! Lol.

I did not think I would get this big of a response! Never! But I know I'm interested in what makes someone work - click - whatever. I am curious about what makes people tick and human behavior. This subject seems like everyone is interested in so I was encouraged to learn with this one if I just think about what I'm intersected in I can research it, learn more about it and write a hub that brings lots of fun!


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Sunshine625 5 years ago from Orlando, FL

I scored a 10! OMG is that a bad thing? Celebrities score closer to 18...does this make me a wannebe celeb? I'm glad I'm not like Casey Anthony! UGH! Good one fpherj!

This is one fun hub REAL DEAL! I loved the video of Austin Powers! Carly Simon...awesome! Well I'm glad I stopped by this hub which told me I might be too into myself! Geez. The questions were repetitive...they were messing with my head! It's all good, I'm not all that but Sunshine rocks! LOL Ok I'm outta here! I had fun with this hub and my comment:)


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi Sunshine! I had fun with your comment too! haha! You are a 10 my friend so the score must be accurate! I do love that Carly Simon song - always wanted to know the answer too!

You do ROCK and you make me LMAO!


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fpherj48 5 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

RealHousewife....Ditto! I often wonder if sunshine knows she's so funny or if she surprises even herself!!. she constantly cracks me up!! Even her comment here is so typically "Sunshine" and I AM L M A O!!!! She's a treasure!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi fpherj48 - I know! She is a treasure and I am so glad to have sunshine comments here:)Your comments are appreciated as well!!

I am so glad you are lauging with us!


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Sunshine625 5 years ago from Orlando, FL

Psssst....I can hear you!! lol xoxoxo


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Sunshine - yep! We know! lol XXXOOO


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barbergirl28 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

Ha ha - that is too cute... I just couldn't resist when I was looking through the pictures and then it must have been fate because you totally plugged this one today! Thanks for giving my daughter a piece of fame!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

BBG - thanks for the awesome perfect picture! Did you show her? I hope she loves it too! You have such beautiful children and so funny. I can not believe you spotted that one - and so lucky you are such a GREAT photographer! Thank you again!


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barbergirl28 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

Bella now thinks that she is famous... I told her that you wrote this and used her picture and all these people that have commented on this have seen it (she doesn't need to know you just added it) But she did have a huge smile on her face. I think she likes to be in the spotlight! LOL


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

I knew she would! She is going to be a movie star! Or Cinderella....just a guess:) lol Awww it is the perfect photo for this! Tell her thank you so much for being a beautiful model for me!


ExoticHippieQueen 5 years ago

Wow girl! You have so many comments,it's almost a book in itself!!! My daughter actually has Narcissistic Personality Disorder among other things..............it's a trip! Very interesting hub!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi ExoticHippieQueen:) love that name:) haha - yeah I probably do too! Among other things:) lol. Thanks so much!


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Victoria Lynn 4 years ago from Arkansas, USA

RealHousewife--I got a 7 too. Fun article here! I'd love to know who Carly Simon was writing "You're so Vain" about!


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hey Victoria - thanks! I would love to know the answer to that question. I have a feeling - it really may have just been a good song she wrote - with no particular person in mind. So when the hoopla about "who is it" came around - it might have been easy to just say "can't tell ya?" lol I would like her just to tell us the truth though since we have all been curious fans all these years:)


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tirelesstraveler 4 years ago from California

I frequently shower and start the day. Sometime down the road I think "Oh dear I have no idea what my hair looks like". Luckily a good hair cut and curls come to my rescue.

Love the way you draw readers to your other hubs.


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi tireless traveler! Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the hub!


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vocalcoach 4 years ago from Nashville Tn.

Wow - what a hub! And what an amazing array of comments. I enjoyed my last 6 hours reading and reading and reading Kelly's hubs.

You see, I actually started with a completely different hub...which lead me to a test, which lead me to another hub which lead me to a mouse which lead me to a cat, which lead me to a house that jack built! :-) (or something like that).

The point I'm trying make (and doing a very bad job) is this: I love these hubs of yours and all the comments (I read every single one) and must say that I enjoyed an entertaining experience the likes of which may never happen again.

From Hitler (I loathe even saying this name) to narcissim and other personality disorders and sprinkled with delightful humor, this was and will continue to be a thought-provoking and winning hub!


klarawieck 4 years ago

Yayyy!!! I'm a narcissist! Hahaha...

What made me read your hub is the fact that yesterday I posted a video of myself thanking my HP friends as a way to commemorate my second year HP anniversary. And it was such a random and uncharacteristic thing to do that I am still embarassed and have only left it up there because it came from the heart and my friends have responded to my video. So, that being said... Am I a narcissist? I don't like looking at myself in the mirror and I've taken all my recorded performances off youtube because I don't like to advertise myself. But I guess I do like to call attention to myself by doing unusual things and surprising others. I don't think I do it for me, but for them, to shake things up a little; but I don't know... maybe subconsciously I'm doing it for me. Lol It's hard to tell.

So here I am.. a narcissist with a best friend who is a sociopath! Life can only get better for us!

BTW, what a gorgeous little girl in those pics!

As usual a wonderful, informative hub! I wouldn't expect any less of you. :D


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hey Vocal Coach - oh thank you so much!! You are such a favorite of mine - always have been! And now I am getting so fond of Lisa too!

You aren't and never do a bad job of anything. Now here's a housewife who has been up all morning dehydrating vegetables and fruits and I get a break and read your lovely compliments that make me feel SO great and it's bad how?!? LOL. I love you!


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hey kiarawieck - no I'm sorry - if posting your video makes you are narcissist then everyone is! No, that doesn't count ESPECIALLY because I can tell that you are slightly embarrassed - they don't feel that:). Hey I'm going to be so excited when I read 2 years I might make my first video! Lol.

Oh hey that little girl belongs to Barbergirl28! If you haven't read her work yet she's awesome too! She's a great photographer so was sweet enough to help me out with a perfect photo - don't you think? Or am I being narcissistic again? Haha

Thank you so very much!


klarawieck 4 years ago

Hahaha... No! We're not narcissists at all. All those hours spent looking at ourselves in the mirror and talking about how wonderful we are trying to impress every stranger we meet down the street are completely justified! We are THAT good! Lol

I will look up Barbergirl28 and read her articles. The pictures are very cute. She did a good job and so did you!


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Thanks again Kiara - yeah see? WE aren't the narcissits - it's all the other pretty people! lol


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest

You have "Muder, however..." instead I think you meant "murder", maybe a misspelling.

Anyway, I hate the term narcissist because ever since self-help books, we throw that term around for anybody who is selfish when they are quite different.

As often as the term is thrown around, there really aren't many people who are actually narcissistic. Narcissism came from Narcissistic personality disorder which includes pretty extreme requirements to fit into this which do not have to do with looking in the mirror a lot., but rather 5 of the following, grandiose sense of self-importance, preoccupation with success, power, brilliance, beauty, requires excessive admiration, sense of entitlement, only to be associated with high-status people, lacks empathy and can't recognize feelings of others, envious of others or wants them to envy them, arrogant behaviors, intolerant of criticisms. It's pretty extreme and all joking aside (often naricissism is thrown around jokingly) these people are extremely hard to be around and you know it if you meet one. They're not your average run of the mill selfish or over-confident person...or even kids who may seem like they have a lot of these features but it's not a diagnosis one gets as a kid.


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi izettl - wow thank you so much! I really appreciate the time you took to explain that in detail....I was not really meaning to imply that we should actually - physically go and take a look in the mirror. I meant it in more of the "go check yourself" way.

Also - I totally did not mean to write a research paper or diagnose anything really - it was more for fun and self reflection but with valid research and points. I think you are probably right on with your information though!


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sholland10 4 years ago from Southwest Missouri

"I am pretty, oh so pretty..." I'm afraid to take the test. LOL What a great conversation going on above. Your videos are so funny. I am still mad at Carly Simon for selling the name of the person that "You're So Vain" is supposed to be about, and creating legal documents that keep it a secret. GOOD GRIEF!! Like Hollywood and Rock Stars aren't all about drama????

Now, let's talk about me... LOL

GREAT HUB! Votes and Shares... (I didn't know our interview would result in this hub... LOL J/K!!!)


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

haha! Ok Susan - we can talk about how you just made me laugh! lol

You are witty and very wise as well!

Yeah I know, Carly managed to just get more publicity for nothing...she didn't tell the secret to everyone - she just whispered it into one persons ear! What a rip!

Thanks so much for the votes and shares!


IntegrityYes 4 years ago

WHOA! COOL!


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hi Integrity Yes - ditto to your comment! Whoa! Cool! lol


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quicksand 4 years ago

Interesting article. I guess we all have a little bit of narcissism in us. Otherwise we would not be dressing well, eating good food, taking days off to have a good time, and so on.

It was great to spot Carly Simon here and that long lost song "Clouds In My Coffee!"

Now I am off to check out my reflection in the water, the bathtub is nearly full!

Peace!


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Hahahaha Quicksand! I hope you didn't fall in the tub - maybe I better call HUB 911 and send the Elites to check on you?!

Thank you!


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quicksand 4 years ago

No worries, RealHousewife, I won't fall in! I am too much of a narcissist to "let go!"

Cheers!


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO Author

Ok so you're pretty normal then, huh? I think - we are all paranoid about being narcissists:) lol

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