Borderline Personality Disorder and Relationships

Borderline Personality Disorder ensnares the individual who has it as much as it affects loved ones.
Borderline Personality Disorder ensnares the individual who has it as much as it affects loved ones. | Source

Tips for Surviving BPD

Borderline personality disorder, or BPD, literally makes life hell for both the person who has it and the people they love. Like all personality disorders, it's a pervasive, deeply-rooted way of relating to the world - so ingrained that a number of counselors sometimes claim that trying to treat the disorder is a futile attempt.

Part of the problem is that people with personality disorders typically do not believe there is anything wrong with them. They've "always" been the way they are, so it's hard for them to see their behaviors as contributing to the problems they have today. Another part of the problem is that the mental health community tends to stigmatize or see personality disorders as too big to handle, and in one sense, they're correct: we simply don't understand personality disorders sufficiently to treat them effectively and efficiently.

When I trained to be a drug and alcohol counselor and during the years I practiced, I rarely saw people with personality disorders, and received no formal training on how to treat them.

But if the experts in mental health can't handle people with borderline, narcissistic, or antisocial personality disorders, imagine how loved ones feel! People who love someone with BPD are often caught between feelings of tender protectiveness for their partner's vulnerable, fragile side and intense feelings of rage at they way they're being treated.

The good news is that the psychiatric community has a much better understanding of BPD and treatment today. A diagnosis of BPD isn't automatically rejected as an untreatable condition these days. Keep reading to learn more about BPD and how to cope with it if you or a loved one is suffering.


Can You Guess the Stats?

Many people believe that BPD patients are manipulative, but this is a mistaken assumption. In the video "Back from the Edge," shown later in this article, you'll discover why.

Signs and Symptoms of BPD

There are a couple of important things to understand about diagnosing personality disorders like BPD. The first thing to understand is that everybody has personality disorder traits. For instance, many people have experienced a fear of abandonment from time to time, and it doesn't mean they have BPD. In order to make a diagnosis, a clinician must consider whether a person has a sufficient number of traits, and how pervasive and enduring they are, to conclude that a disorder exists.

The psychologist or psychiatrist must also rule out other conditions that may have similar or shared traits, or figure out whether two or more conditions may exist at the same time. Usually, they rely upon the patient's reports about themselves, but may sometimes receive information from other people. Because the expert's exposure to the patient's behavior is limited, they may not get sufficient information to make a correct diagnosis.

On the other hand, many non-experts have plenty of exposure to their partner and try to make a diagnosis without understanding the proper way to use the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. This often creates more problems than it solves. Although they are seeking to understand, they often discover that by attaching a label to their loved one's behaviors, they introduce new reasons to argue with their significant other, who now feels defensive, criticized, and possibly even ashamed.

If you believe your loved one may have BPD, it may be possible to guide them gently into treatment, but it would be wise to withhold an "armchair diagnosis" if you don't want to make your situation worse.

When locating a therapist, look for one that specializes in BPD or a technique called dialectical behavior therapy (DBT).

This graphic shows the on/off nature of a BPDer's way of perceiving their environment.
This graphic shows the on/off nature of a BPDer's way of perceiving their environment. | Source

DSM-IV Diagnostic Criteria for BPD

The Diagnostic & Statistical Manual (Rev. IV) provides the psychiatric community with standardized guidelines for making diagnoses. According to the DSM-IV, borderline personality disorder may be present if at least five of the following nine conditions exist:

  • Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in (5).
  • A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. This is called "splitting."
  • Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
  • Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in (5).
  • Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior.
  • Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).
  • Chronic feelings of emptiness.
  • Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights).
  • Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms.

Remember that only a qualified, trained provider can make an actual diagnosis!

Living with BPD

To get an idea of what it's like to have BPD, imagine yourself waking up in the morning and deciding to make some toast for breakfast. The toaster dial is broken. You must remove the bread before it turns into a blackened char. But you also need to use the restroom and get ready for work, so you're squeezing your legs together and maybe twisting painfully as you wait for your toast to finish. Your gaze shifts between the clock on the wall and the toaster. Your dog's watching you and wondering why you're dancing around and making those funny cursing noises. You're tempted to kick the pup for that judgmental stare he keeps giving you.

You decide you can eat the toast now, even though it's not quite as golden as you'd like, so you retrieve it and drop it on your plate to cool while you rush to use the toilet.

Crisis averted. You down your meal quickly and go to take a shower. Unfortunately, there is no temperature control on it, so you can choose only between scalding your skin and freezing your butt off. How do you decide? You know some people can take warm showers, but you've never experienced one yourself! You wish you knew how to fix it or to find someone who does, but alas, you don't know anyone and can't afford to hire someone. You've been told that yours cannot be fixed, in fact. You suffer through your shower and feel tremendous relief when you get a chance to dry off and dress.

Rushing out the door so you won't be late, you get into your car, where you discover that somehow, your gas pedal and brakes have both stopped working. You cannot stop at red lights, and you're racing down the streets barely able to steer around corners. You have no idea how in the world you'll come to a stop!

Is it hard to envision how you would feel if you experienced such a bizarre morning? Would you be anxious, afraid, frustrated, angry? All of the above? A BPDer's brain has no dials to adjust the temperature and speed of their thoughts, so much so that simple, everyday events can seem like unendurable crises to them - at least until something happens that their perceptions of what's affecting them shifts again, such as a loved one declaring to leave or the police knocking at the door.

This is what it may be like to have the serious mental illness known as Borderline Personality Disorder. Although people newly diagnosed with BPD may think that the name implies that they're on a fine line between sanity and insanity, the name originated when psychiatrists couldn't classify people exhibiting BPD as clearly "neurotic" or "psychotic," the only two categories that existed when BPD was first characterized as a particular cluster of traits.

As it turns out, borderline personality disorder is far from insane, though a BPDer's behavior might lead people to believe otherwise. In a nutshell, they are extremely sensitive people who don't know how to regulate their overpowering emotions. This often leads to over-the-top reactions that are often made worse by people who try to help them.

Examples of how BPD people respond to their overwhelming strong emotions include the diagnostic traits above. Friends and family may see several of these:

  • Acting out (such as cutting or burning themselves, reckless driving, or outbursts of anger)
  • Threats to leave
  • Suicidal thoughts, gestures, or attempts
  • Extreme rage over seemingly minor triggering events
  • Extreme anxiety over real or imagined criticisms
  • Quickly changing moods - sometimes from one extreme to another within minutes
  • Acting hostile or withdrawn after periods of intimacy or connection (pushing away before he or she can be rejected.)

To outsiders, a person with BPD may seem perfectly normal. They can't see the inner turmoil of a person who literally feels like they do not exist or fit in anywhere.

This in-depth video consists of three BPD patients as they review their own thought processes and behaviors, with commentary from their loved ones and their doctors, to explain what it's like to cope with borderline personality disorder as an afflicted person or as a loved one. Although the video's statistic that BPD affects 1% of the population may be incorrect (further studies sponsored by the National Institute of Mental Health show that up to 6% of people meet the diagnostic criteria), you'll discover that BPDers are not "crazy" but that their methods are actually quite effective ways of responding to what their brains are doing.

BPD and the Brain

At least one study using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) indicated that the brain functions differently in people with BPD. They do not process emotions the same way - possibly due to having different density of gray matter.

BPD Treatment

BPD is a complex illness. Treatment may include:

  • Talk therapy (DBT, mentioned earlier, is considered the "gold standard" of BPD treatment)
  • Medication
  • Group therapy

It is expected that treatment will take at least a year, and the quality of therapist-to-patient relationship is extremely important. Because it is challenging to treat, many insurance companies don't want to see this diagnosis!

Instead of simply accepting in insurance company's refusal, research your policy and remind them that they'll pay for treatment one way or another: Many BPD people end up in emergency rooms for suicide gestures or for accidents resulting from risk-taking, and then get referred to in-patient treatment anyway. Wouldn't it be better to prevent that?

Compassion is an Important Key for Coping with BPD

Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality Disorder
Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality Disorder

The book and workbook (below) are best used together. People who love someone with BPD rave about how helpful Mason & Krieger's books have been for them.

 
The Dialectical Behavior Therapy Skills Workbook: Practical DBT Exercises for Learning Mindfulness, Interpersonal Effectiveness, Emotion Regulation, and Distress Tolerance
The Dialectical Behavior Therapy Skills Workbook: Practical DBT Exercises for Learning Mindfulness, Interpersonal Effectiveness, Emotion Regulation, and Distress Tolerance

This outstanding resource can be helpful for both BPD and bipolar disorder if your loved one is receptive to using it. It can be used independently or in conjunction with therapy. It provides an online therapy program that can be used when local treatment may be difficult to find.

 

BPD Over Time

By the time a person reaches their 40s, BPD symptoms often fade on their own, but they may never disappear completely. Both BPDers and loved ones should understand that emotional stability can still be extremely hard to achieve even if symptoms improve. That's why it's so important to find the kind of treatment that can work best for learning emotional management.

Dealing with Borderline Personality

Although science cannot point to a definitive cause of BPD, it has been proven that people with BPD have different responses in their brain to perceived rejection or criticism. Studies have shown that a childhood history of abuse or neglect is frequently present, but many people with BPD grew up in stable homes. A recent study suggests that certain chromosonal influences can influence whether a person develops BPD, but most experts believe it's a combination of genetics and environment.

One study points to a link between gray matter density and emotion regulation in people with BPD. The brain is literally constructed somewhat differently than it is in people who have better control over their emotions.

The one element that is universally persistent in people with BPD is a feeling of being invalidated. In order to help a person with BPD manage their emotional state, both therapists and loved ones must recognize this critical fact.

Ironically, that same element is what makes treatment challenging!

How do you tell an unreasonable person that their viewpoint is valid, especially when you may be feeling defensive against an unfair, targeted attack against you? Sometimes a loved one tries to cope by keeping the peace and validating the attacker, and this backfires by rewarding the BPDer's unreasonable behaviors - teaching him or her that their out-of-control behavior is an effective way to cope with their overwhelming emotions.

Here are steps you can take to de-escalate arguments and help your loved one while protecting yourself and specific things to avoid:

WHAT TO DO

1. First, be aware that you're the target of the attack, but you're not the reason for it.

2. Hear them out. Let them vent all the bile and anger that's seething in them Recognize that their attacks are a way of trying to figure out who they are and how they are supposed to be, and that their attack is a sign that they trust you enough to come to you for that guidance.

3. Understand that the BPDer is driven by a need to be accepted, but expects to be rejected or invalidated. You have to find a way to show acceptance without invalidating them, but also without rewarding the things that should not be validated.

4. To do this, find one or two points that are valid about your loved one's complaints and acknowledge them out loud. Use specific words instead of vague ideas. "I would feel angry too, if I believed someone was trying to control me" is better than "I get what you're saying."

5. Avoid discussing the issues for now. Simply use the validation technique and say something like, "You are important to me and I'd like to think about what you've said for a while. Can we talk about this in a day or two?" If you believe suicidal or self-harming thoughts may be present, ask! If the person admits they're thinking about it, ask them to promise you that they will not act on those thoughts for the next thirty days. If they will not promise, consider calling the police.

6. Even though raising the subject again is probably the last thing you want to do, prepare yourself to follow through. Your BPDer is obsessing over things right now, and the next 24 or 48 hours will give them time to develop doubts about what they said. By the time you sit down to talk again, their views will be less extreme.

7. Revisit the subject after a day or two, when your loved one is not out of control, so that your BPDer knows you meant it when you said you care. When you resume the conversation, continue to use validation and affection. Provide reassurance that you love him/her and would like to see a happy resolution even if you cannot get into complete agreement. Many times, a couple of days will let the BPD person recognize where he or she was out of control and they will feel remorseful. When they realize that they didn't mean what they said, recognize that they are telling the truth as they experience it.

8. Be prepared to repeat the entire process if your loved one escalates out of control again. It can take several years to overcome BPD with proper treatment and a highly motivated patient. If your loved one is not highly motivated (which is true of most BPDers), is not in therapy, or hasn't progressed sufficiently with a therapist, it can take longer.

WHAT TO AVOID

1. When your BPDer threatens suicide or self harm, do not reward their behavior by giving them extra attention and care. Take their threats seriously, but do not allow those threats to control your responses in any way that rewards this behavior. Go ahead and remove anything that you believe might be used for such a purpose, but don't cancel your workday to stay nearby.

2. Avoid telling your BPDer that he or she is "wrong," "crazy," "out of control," or irrational. Even if you think you're being comforting, such as telling her she's beautiful when she has just said she feels fat, invalidating her perceptions can contribute to her perceptions that her opinions don't count. Try to find a way to validate her AND confront her belief at the same time, such as "I know you don't like the way your butt looks, but I think you have the sexiest legs imaginable!"

Irrational Thought Patterns in BPD - Simplified Examples

She said...
His Respone
How She Interprets It
 
 
 
I feel ugly.
"No! You are beautiful."
"He ignores what I think."
 
"Well, why not start working out?"
"It's true: I'm horribly ugly."
I'm a failure.
"But you just got a promotion!"
"He doesn't pay attention to what I say."
 
"Well, why not go back to school?"
See? I am a failure! He never accepts me!"
People with BPD have a strong need to experience feeling better, but their thoughts sabotage others' attempts to find happy solutions.

Words to Live By

A gentleman who calls himself "Uptown" describes what it's like trying to meet the needs of a person with borderline personality:

"It's like trying to fill the Grand Canyon with a squirt gun."

He would know. He spent 14 years pulling the trigger. He has studied extensively on borderline personality disorder and shares his wisdom with participants in the online Talk About Marriage forum.

General Lifestyle Considerations

Because a person with borderline personality literally doesn't know where they fit in this world, it's important for them to find ways to instill meaning into their lives. An active lifestyle that exposes them to other people is especially valuable. Consider doing some of these activities together to ensure that your lives are filled with meaning and avoid the nagging doubts that haunt the BPDer:

  • Volunteering
  • Group sports
  • Social club memberships
  • Mentoring others

Also, because people with BPD struggle to keep their emotions stable in the first place, introduce as much routine as possible in your lives with regular mealtimes and bedtimes, and comforting rituals like pet names for each other or daily "together" time - even if it's just five or ten minutes devoted completely to one another.

Living with BPD is not easy. Leaving may be the best choice for you. You are not ultimately responsible for anyone else, especially if that person isn't working on being responsible for themselves. However, if you have reason not to leave, putting these techniques into practice is likely to make your life easier.

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Mary Merriment 3 years ago from Boise area, Idaho

My husband has BPD. It's definitely been quite a chaotic roller coaster ride living with him. He has toned down a bit over the past few years though. I recently read that the hormone changes that occur around mid-life tends to calm the BPD related chemistry. He says he really has a difficult time understanding his previous thoughts and behaviors now. I totally know what he means. It is very chaotic, confusing and sometimes dangerous for all who are close to them.


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jellygator 3 years ago from USA Author

I'm glad he's reaching that age, MM. Living with BPD is probably one of the hardest relationships (along with narcissism) that a person can cope with. Few of them last for a lifetime, especially with BPD since it's marked by instability in relationships. You must be a very committed woman!


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teaches12345 3 years ago

What an excellent hub and so well written. I took your quiz, got a zero, but learned lots just by taking it. This information explains the actions behind the individuals who have violently acted out in society over the past year. Your diagnostic criteria is fascinating and the suggestions on how to help a loved one is wonderful. Voted way up!


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jellygator 3 years ago from USA Author

Wow, Teaches, what kind words! Thanks so much!


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starbright 3 years ago from Scandinavia

Wonderfully written and very informative hub. I didn't know a great deal about this disorder, but your info has given me a massive amount of insight. Thank you for sharing. Voted up and shared.


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jellygator 3 years ago from USA Author

Why, thank you, Starbright!


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Simplicity4All 3 years ago from Rhode Island, USA

I appreciate this hub and how you have written it in a way where your not stigmatizing people who have been diagnosed as having BPD. I was recently hospitalized and diagnosed with the disorder two days before my 26th birthday. Being someone who likes to know what's going on especially if it can shed some life on the chaos of emotions I feel on a daily basis I find myself constantly searching for more information and what medications or therapies are most effective to overcome this emotional disregulation I experience. What I have found is a mixture of literature ranging from informative and hopeful to some websites saying that having this means being a manipulative, emotionally demented individual. Its hard enough realizing you do in fact have a mental illness so its nice to see people out there who can present useful information without making it sound as though having BPD means being a manipulative, unlovable roller-coaster who is impossible to tolerate. Thank you for your hub and humble attitude :D


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jellygator 3 years ago from USA Author

Thank you, Simplicity. I don't believe people with BPD are trying to manipulate or that they are "demented," even though their loved ones aren't able to understand where they're coming from. It's certainly frustrating for both a person with BPD and a person interacting with them. I'm glad you found this helpful.


MisterT 3 years ago

I wish I had read this a year or two ago, before my potentially BPD STBXW left me (for another man). Hopefully your tips will help me deal with her through coparenting as we still, and will always share children together.


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jellygator 3 years ago from USA Author

She will probably be easier to deal with as a coparent than a spouse, because she won't be in that push-pull of "come here, get away from me" that comes with abandonment issues. Once she knows it's over and moves on to date others, you may find yourself becoming good friends again.


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ptosis 3 years ago from Arizona

I was going to right a hub ab0ut this because of my recent experience this week with this woman Kelly who found my dog’s tag and returned it to me. She has a husband named Steve. They both came over. Then Kelly would come over to my house and complain about Steve. I told here like Bob Newhart, “Stop it, you are emotionally dumping on me and I feel like a garbage can.” It took me 2 days to get over all that emotional BS. So I strongly disagree your advice point #2 ‘Hear them out’.

I slowly became aware that she lies about everything. She reads the same books as I do, (BS), her mom looks just like my mom, I got a rash from my apt.’s pool, her apt’s pool gave someone else a rash. On and on and on, agreeing with everything I say and do.

The only thing she wants to bitch about was what a sociopath Steve was. Steve beats her, then later she denied ever saying that and recanted, “He just pushes me up against the wall and yells in my face.” She suspected that Steve had porn on the USB memory sticks because they were ‘encrypted’. Nope just broken memory sticks. She said that Steve ruined her laptop, nope, just need to update the software. She told me that she was looking through his stuff while he was a work. I asked her, “Why are you going through his stuff?” She replied “Oh, he has stolen some stuff of mine that I’m trying to retrieve.” She kept saying that she was going to leave him but never did. More and more BS was piling up.

Steve come to my apartment complex to say that he’s not the asshole that Kelly made him out to me. The reason why is that I printed out my hub on sociopaths for Kelly who must’ve shown it to Steve accusing him of being a sociopath. I told Steve, “I believe you.”

We weren’t alone. It was hot and everybody in the apt. complex was out, Mickey, Christine, Cookie, Inge. Both Steve’s phone and my phone got a flurry of NASTY accusing texts from Kelly. At one point Kelly comes around the corner 50 feet away and yells “HEY A$$HOLE!” and Steve slinks to her and they go away. Kelly wasn’t the victim – she is a Tasmanian Devil whirlwind of emotional drama. That night her so-called ‘final text’ to me was a demand that I never contact her ever again.

The next day I get an apology text from Kelly, I texted back, “You are dead to me Ghost, do not contact me again.” That created another flurry of texts saying that she had no reason to contact me. – Crazy huh? I ignored them. And I put a ‘no ring’ ringtone from her phone.

That night at 8:30, Steve is at my door. He said to me from outside, “I don’t know what is going on, I just came home from work, but will you please quit calling Kelly.” As he was stomping off, I said, “I’m not calling her, she keeps texting me.” Kelly was in the truck that was parked right outside my bathroom window and as Steve entered and started the truck up, I heard the most viscous mean witch-like curse came out of Kelly’s mouth, “Muth-rF-cker!”

Just stay away from BPD’s because they are chronic compulsive liars, violators of trust and privacy, public scene makers, who has nothing good to say about anybody. Why would anybody want to follow your advice of #2 “Hear them out” when the intense toxicity of seething rage would put even the most strongest and stable person into a deep funk?


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jellygator 3 years ago from USA Author

You're absolutely right to not listen and participate with someone like this if you aren't invested in keeping a relationship with them.

For people involved with someone who has BPD, letting the BPDer exhaust their angry feelings (without taking it personally) is an effective way of giving the BPDer a chance to come around and regulate themselves better. Confrontation just fuels this stuff! (As you discovered with Kelly, as a neighbor who isn't involved with her! Can you imagine what Steve is coping with? Of course, he plays a role in it, too.)


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ptosis 3 years ago from Arizona

Oh yeah, I'm not sorry for neither because they choose to stay with each other. Steve must love her even if he may be a sociopath. The way I look at it, if Steve is emotionally dead inside, then Kelly's antics keeps him from being bored with life. - I like my boring life! And I get too caught up with other people's emotions to be any help at all. Just writing the comment before got me upset for a couple of hours.


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jellygator 3 years ago from USA Author

Don't get upset, Ptosis! Pat yourself on the back for your "boring" (aka peaceful) life!


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ptosis 3 years ago from Arizona

Yeah, I'm was bored as hell today after that emotional blowup when I commented this morning. Dealing with intense emotions is so exhausting. I wasn't sure if I was tired or extremely bored.

Feeling better now. Thanks for the concern.


surrender 2 years ago

My BPD partner never lies....in fact that is the one thing he doesn't do and can't. Although he is traumatized daily by his own dysregulated moods, fears and insecurities he struggles with everything inside his being to regulate what is fair and true. I have pushed him to the extremes more than anyone and he found a way to remain with me still. Yes he can be toxic and a monster when he feels threatened but ultimately he returns to a place of love and understanding. It is what allows me to be with him and try to support him as best I can.


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jellygator 2 years ago from USA Author

Not all BPD people lie, but some do. It's also tough to figure out what exactly constitutes a lie. I knew one person who felt like it was a "lie" whenever someone changed their mind, so your BPD guy's statements when he's being a monster could be seen as a "lie" by someone who thinks consistency is evidence of honesty.


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Harmel 2 years ago from Staff Ave Cochranton Pa 16314

Thank you for this very good article.I have dealt with depression and anxiety most of my life. Due to alcohol and drugs being a major part of my younger years, I never learned my coping skills. I am now working with a therapist that deals with this disorder, that is why I looked at your article. I finally feel that I may be able to get the help I need to learn how to cope with life. Remembering what I learn seems to be the hardest part. Thank you !!


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jellygator 2 years ago from USA Author

You're welcome, Harmel! I would bet that you learned plenty of coping skills, and they were helpful for getting you through those younger years. Now that they no longer work, it's time to replace them. You will never find a key to having some fairy-tale perfect life, but I think we can learn to be happy in our skins, living our own lives, to the best of our abilities, imperfect as that'll always be!


Mary Pop 2 years ago

These past few months been overwhelming and stressful. I don't have BPD but Iam so confused with my situation. Right now Im undergoing a Domestic Violence counseling. My husband of 8 years accused me of having an affair with a coworker. He found text messages of emotional contents that this friend and I exchanged. He wanted me to admit and each time I denied I felt a blow/kick on my left thigh which actually caused a big bruise. To make a long story short, we are waiting for his court appearance next month. Even if I dropped the charges, the state of Texas pursued it. Now he's scared to go to jail. We have an 8 year old daughter that adores her. So we hired an attorney to hopefully benefit from plea bargains against possible jail time. Secretly I cried when I let him hire an attorney because I know Im waving my biggest chance of a good riddance goodbye. Half of me wants to run away the farthest from him but he never would. He said he loves me so much that even if I cheated he chooses to stay with me. Next thing I hear is that he hates me so much that he wants to grill me alive. I am a nurse by profession so I actually knows what's going on. For the longest time I have been asking him to seek medical help but obviously he never did until law had to be involved. As Ive said I know what's going on but just don't know what to do next. The Other half of me wants to keep helping him. Right now he is in his optimum goodness. Everybody is telling me what about after we hear the judge's decision. We don't know whos gonna show up next Dr Jeckyl or Mr Hyde?


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jellygator 2 years ago from USA Author

Oh, we know who will show up. It's just a matter of how long it will take. What will you do about this, Mary Pop?


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Sami Hanson 2 years ago from Kansas

This hub is extremely insightful as well as helpful. I appreciate that you have written this article in an organized fashion as well as using words that those not familiar with mental health/psychological disorder can still understand. The chart on how those with BPD interpret certain things is also extremely interesting. My sister's boyfriend just got diagnosed with BPD so I am definitely bookmarking this so we can read it later! Thank y0u!


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jellygator 2 years ago from USA Author

Thank you, Sami! I hope your family will have a rewarding journey. It won't be easy, but it can be worthwhile.


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lambservant 2 years ago from Pacific Northwest

I just had to sever a relationship with someone with BPD. I was her last friend. The problem was she wanted me to regulate her, fix her when her emotions were so intense, and no matter what I did, it was wrong. My own mental health started going down after a few years, on an off, of trying to love, support, and be her friend. The manipulation was known to her because once she called me and admitted she was being abusive, manipulative passive aggressive. I did all the things you mentioned. My heart goes out to her, but I cannot save her, "regulate" her, or help her. This is a helpful article in that it helps to understand BPD better than just reading symptoms. But at the end of the day, I think it was unhealthy for both of us. My heart is broken to have to have severed the friendship, but she won't get help.


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jellygator 2 years ago from USA Author

I can imagine how painful that decision was, lambservant, but I'm glad to hear that you're taking care of you. Ultimately, she's responsible for herself no matter who is or is not there for her!


Trier 21 months ago

I wish I'd read this earlier. My xGF who suffers from BPD just broke up with me again. She did it before but I'm pretty sure this time it's definite. This article was very insightful and I can now clearly see how I could've handled the situation a hundred times better. Especially the irrational thought patterns and what to do and don't are eye openers.

If only I'd known this before... I am not even that hurt or sad for myself because I know I tried my best to help her and be good, I'm sad because of how awful and lonely she must feel right now and there is nothing I can do.

Anyway, great post! Cheers


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jellygator 21 months ago from USA Author

Trier, BPD is challenging for both the person who suffers with it and the people who love them. Thank you for reading, and hopefully in the future, you'll be able to understand "what's underneath" and respond to it in a way that brings about harmony.


BlackPoplar 18 months ago

I've been married 8 years to someone with some sort of personality disorder (or at least, I am convinced of it). We now have a daughter together, and she is struggling with these first early weeks. Besides her difficulty with the tasks involved, she is pushing as much of the care as possible onto me whilst I am the main earner and she is off on 12 months' maternity, and I am struggling to get her to see reason.

I don't think I'll ever get her to a proper psychologist or psychiatrist. She was raised with a major prejudice against mental health problems. I'll describe her here - let me know what you think.

The symptoms describe "frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment." This actually is one which I can't pin to her quite closely. However, while we were dating, I did try to break up with her once, and she did go completely frantic and even threatened suicide. I myself actually realised I valued this level of devotion, and I apologised and gave us another go (obviously). However, otherwise, she in fact tends to be aloof about her friendships (outside of ensuring a minimum 'standard' such as birthday cards, Christmas cards, etc.), and about our marriage in most respects - she sort of expects that whatever she does or says, I will fall in line. Or used to - I think we are in a stable pattern now, but she does tend to try to dictate my schedule. I've tried to instigate some level of improvement in our lifestyles in the past (e.g. to make my career do-able, with a long commute, also allowing some 'me' time, etc.), and only when I had threatened divorce once or twice, would she finally listen to me that things were getting bad. So is this narcissistic tendencies?

But then the other characteristics fits more closely. She used to be obsessed with everything being "perfect". When things went wrong early in our marriage (e.g. an argument), it was like the world was completely shattered - she would have fits and tantrums. (She would also tend back to self-hatred.)

Which moves on to "identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self." She is sometimes so unbelievably stubborn in her views and so self-righteous, and yet she has major issues with her confidence and self-esteem. Her latest thing, though, is to get very angry about how "crap" she is with me, as in like, "oh, and this is just another reason I am crap, right?!" (To which I respond, "no, but..." and relate the argument relative to her views.)

Then there's impulsivity. She has struggled with mainly shopping and alcohol. She in fact used to push me to drink sometimes, even when I didn't want to. However, thankfully, these are two habits which I seem to have broken over the past 8 years! (Two sessions of marriage counselling later.) A shame that I missed out on the sex one...

I need not repeat the "suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior." Tick.

In terms of "instability due to a marked reactivity of mood", I don't know what "intense episodic dysphoria" means, but she suffers majorly from anxiety. She has alone seen counselling for this, but it just comes back. It is less / not crippling, like it used to be. However, it says it lasts "only rarely more than a few days". I could be wrong, but she seems to have suffered anxiety for months at a time, not hours.

I have no idea if she has "chronic feelings of emptiness".

In terms of "inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger", I mentioned the tantrums above. I have to admit twice slapping her - once when we were in a taxi, and she was having a frenzied fit at me when I tried to get the taxi driver to turn back for my passport whilst we had plenty of time. I just had to smack her leg to shock her out of it so I could even talk to the taxi driver for 30 seconds. Once we got to the station, all was fine and dandy again. Then another time a year or two later, she was again in a frenzy and storming about throwing things around, and I slapped her cheek. (She nearly went to the authorities with that one... she was convinced it was spousal abuse. Trust me, it wasn't.) But she does this still to an extent - life is fine and lovely, and then it's a massive problem and an argument becomes a fight. I don't like it, especially now having a baby in the house. I sometimes feel threatened by her manner - like if I weren't bigger than her, she would hit me.

I have no idea what "transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms" are.

Some other things I find odd that I want to mention:

- difficulty with sex (sorry to admit) - mainly just not really knowing what to do, focusing more on herself than me... I keep thinking this has to be narcissistic personality disorder, but anyway...

- an apparent fear of vomiting / illness. She almost never vomits herself (very strong stomach), but also she can be in denial about the possibility she might (e.g. when she is sick or, in the past, drunk). It's very odd. She doesn't like me to admit to being sick, even if I am. She is now really worried about the baby spitting up, which is a regular sort of thing, and very normal for babies. It's a serious problem for her.

- terrible learning ability. She doesn't learn new things very quickly at all, and seems to have very little drive to develop or improve herself.

- oddly great memory for car makes, models and number plates. The other evening in bed, I asked her our neighbours' number plates, and she got them all correct. I didn't know a single one. She knows those of her aunts and uncles, and at least some of her cousins, as well.

- excellent cook.

- anxious about mess / disorder. Even when the mess is to, say, build her a new kitchen, she may have a tantrum about it.

I realise I am not being very flattering of my wife. She really is lovely, and there are many more positive traits, and some of her negatives come with positives. But I just want to understand what I am dealing with all the time. I want to have a better chance of raising my daughter in a normal home environment.


BlackPoplar 18 months ago

I had meant to mention about a lack of ability to see logic, and to understand logic, and likewise to emotionalise everything. Some people will say this is just "women" or the nature of a wife reacting to a husband. I don't accept that. She really just cannot understand when her logic is way off, and she cannot accept being corrected - she thinks I'm "trying to be right all the time", even when I am simply just right.

I personally think that she also lacks true sympathy and empathy, although she is clearly able to express sympathy in conversation. I am just unsure if these feelings are ever genuine - she never really speaks about others' plights or about concerns about others. Life is very focused on her.


BlackPoplar 18 months ago

I wish I could edit the above posts, instead of constantly re-posting, but I also meant to note the following:

- goes silent on people she is angry with, and can do this for ridiculously prolonged periods of time. More generally, she bottles up emotions;

- struggles to verbalise her thoughts and feelings generally;

- she doesn't seem to "get" tone of voice, though with my effort, this is getting better. She often speaks in the wrong tone (usually condescending or stressy, when she has no reason to be), and doesn't really get my tone of voice, taking things I am saying sarcastically or in a humorous way, seriously;

- when we first started dating, her behaviour could be described as inappropriate at times - almost "exhibitionist" - in terms of PDAs. She made me uncomfortable sometimes, and didn't seem to sense other people's disapproval, or maybe she just didn't care. I'm not sure if eventually my discomfort changed this or if it's just that we're older and less frisky in general!;

- what used to be a somewhat extreme intolerance of bad service at restaurants. Again, this has calmed down in recent years, but she could be embarrassing.

Any of this sound like BPD, or NPD, or even Aspergers, or all three???

I would have thought NPD, but her self-esteem is so low sometimes, and she really lacks the confidence to do most things alone. She seems to need almost constant emotional support.


BlackPoplar 18 months ago

In looking up Aspergers, I see a lot of overlap as well. I would say that she:

- has a hard time relating to others, though she certainly is fine with social contact. Again, she lacks in the ability to express her thoughts and feelings and notice others' feelings;

- is bothered by loud noises, lights, and strong tastes or textures. If I've been doing DIY anywhere around the house, she has often had to leave the property entirely. She also can't stand to have anything but dim lights on.

- she sort of likes fixed routines, and definitely struggles with change.

- she definitely doesn't or hasn't always recognised verbal and nonverbal cues and certain social norms. She does stare at others, and she does avoid eye contact. Again, getting better with time, with my effort.

- her sense of spatial awareness and balance are somewhat poor. She really struggles with slippery surfaces, e.g. bathtubs. Took 6 tries to pass her driving test.

- has few interests, or and she focuses intensely on a few things. (Movie night is pretty boring at our house.).

I am increasingly thinking BPD and Aspergers combined....


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jellygator 17 months ago from USA Author

Hi BlackPoplar. I am not a diagnostician and no longer work in mental health in any capacity, but I would say your conclusion is consistent with the information you have provided. If you find your relationship suffering as a result of these traits, please consider seeing a therapist - for yourself, if she won't go - so that you can maintain your own well-being while getting through the challenges!


Catscratched 16 months ago

Big, fluffy piles of gratitude to you, Jellygator, for publishing this material online. My spouse is genocide survior, who between the ages of 10 & 14, managed to outrun the Khmer Rouge, successfully pass thru forced labor camps and outlasted miserable refugee camps. After 6 years of marriage, I have learned to practice patience on Olympic levels. My wife is living, without question, with BPD. Menopause was interesting. Some longer-term mellowness combined with seemingly shorter periods of Rage/Blame. Any port in a storm! Commuting to work together has been a study in learning how to keep my mouth shut in the face of frequent outrageous commentary, "suggestions", insults & running criticism. Since learning the bullet points of her littany, I have developed a sense of her "degree of skew". I fool myself into believing that ghis helps me react in more appropriate ways. Again: Thank you.


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jellygator 16 months ago from USA Author

Wow, Catscratched! You are both heroic, in my opinion!


TonyB 10 months ago

My wife, who I love more than anything in the world, has most of these characteristics but hasnt got the suicidal/hurting herself tendencies. We have been married for a little over 3 years. Her family knows, but wont discuss the matter. Her mother blaims it on a thyroid problem and says it was probably from when she had a fall and hit he head when she was young.

One month after we got married, we decided to see a counselor because we were trying to "merge" our two families, she has two children, as do I. The counselor had us take personality tests, spent several months with us before he finally told me to read a book called "Walking on eggshells". It spoke wonders to me, it was me living with a BPD. All I could do was pray for my wife and feel like I needed to figure out what I could do to help her. When she is being "herself", she is absolutely the most wonderful person in the world. I couldnt have gotten a more beautiful bride......but when its bad and she has these "episodes", all I want to do is run away as far away as I can get.......in her mind, ll she can say is "I want you to leave, I want my life back, just me and the kids.

I want to be with her for the rest of my life, but not this way! How do I tell her that she has a "problem" and convince her to seek help?

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