Forget The Dream You Once Did Have

'The Death of Sardanapalus' - Delacroix

Forget it; forget the dream you once did have,

A dream which covered pain with pure sweet lies.

Forget the truth and all the sorrow and the pain

That came as weeping phantoms as the nighttime dies.

Forget the bitter and the sweet of memory

And the memory of a half forgotten past

And let the taste of what may come tomorrow

Be the wine that when all cups be dry, the one to last.


Forget the time when what was so was true

And now be sad and happy with an unknown truth.

Forget that then the all important thing was God,

And put away such thoughts and make a god in youth.

Look never more to age and wisdom and to old

Established forms as having good,

But turn to searching after gaiety and want,

Lest in a quiet time the mind unravels that not understood.


Put all that underlying reason out of craving mind

And turn deaf ears on voices that would teach.

Turn outward to a non responding world

Which puts pure thought away from reach.

Forget that man as man must have a goal;

And needs must inward turn to find his soul,

A soul with wisdom, knowledge and humility,

Which needs must face the ravages of years as on they roll.

Inexorably roll.

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writeronline 5 years ago

Whoa, TL, this is way deep. I dived in, swam around for a long time, trying to find the bottom, but couldn’t. Had to give up and strike out for shore. Now I’m looking in from the edge, a little afraid of getting pulled back in.

I’m actually not that good with undercurrent, ebb and flow, (swimming to me, is staying alive when I’m in the water). And I’m definitely out of my depth this time.

Nevertheless, I loved it. Might have to do a few more

laps before I can explain why..

Cheers


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A.A. Zavala 5 years ago from Texas

Ian, you are a soul that possesses knowledge, wisdom, and humility. An epic poem...


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

"Pure sweet lies" - I won't forget. No, I will.

Sorry, I was laughing so - I just came back from Italy and I was having a conversation with you.

You were in a better mood or so I thought

(I made you to be in a better mood).

I wanted to do an article, but it keeps rolling like those years and I have to cut it, I am afraid.

I hope you will like it. I hope the world would respond.

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“Don't tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass.” Anton Chekhov

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I think as a writer, you always manage to show the glint of light on broken glass...

Words, words, words...

Sorry, Ian, maybe I had too much of that strong Italian espresso...


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

WOL, after you analogy of the swimming, I was interested to remember that I had just (I mean, "just" as in a couple of minutes earlier) replied to someone's comment on 'On a Suicide' with the following: "I think we all need to put our foot into the water of pain and despair, but only the very lonely and the deluded will swim in that water if there is a person on the bank to lend a hand. It's just being able to see that one."

It must be a day of seaside metaphors. Perhaps, if you have not plunged into it yet, you could go and sniff out the good old West Australian salt air in 'A Deserted Beach'.

But this one, above? Just another of my depressing scribbles about rejection of values... We were all twenty once, weren't we?

Some less recently than others.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

AAZ (Sounds like an exclamation late at night = "AAZ! I'm so tired, I'm going to sleeee...").

Your comment, for which I am grateful and pleased, made me think of a girl I went to Technical School with. She didn't say I had "knowledge, wisdom, and humility", but she said,

"You have intelligence, knowledge and background - but none of it meshes!"

I always liked that comment. I think she was right. I am so lucky in all the gifts God has given me, but I have seldom learned to use them properly.

But with your recent encouragement, perhaps I am starting to.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, this was a mood decanted from a very old bottle; Vintage 1961 or thereabouts. I took a sip and I think it was "potabile" but I think I would have done better to join you in a caffè espresso.

Where did you drink it? In one of those little bars along the Corso, or was that you I saw in that smart Osteria overlooking Lungarno?

(It's obvious I am desperate to go back to Italy for a nose around, isn't it?).

Thanks for the visit, and of course I will read whet you have to offer. It will be splendid, I am sure.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Beautiful poem, but like A.A., I am going to have to read it a few more times to get the full meaning. I also need to think about it between reads. I like it.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, I will not tire you with the details now - for it (I mean the masterpiece) turned into a long read. I am going to split it into 3/4/5 parts.

I need a bucket of espresso now, here and now, - to wake up and go paint the wall and finish my project of majestic proportions. It is so amazingly amazing that even I drowned in it or was it that somebody helped me drown in its intensity?

You would not happen to know anyone responsible for drowning unsuspecting victims that have no appreciation for music?


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Nikkij504gurl 5 years ago from Louisiana

"Forget it; forget the dream you once did have,

A dream which covered pain with pure sweet lies."

been there, done that. you cant truly forget some things though, you just have to let go and move on, but the memories are still there. you can block them or push them deep down, let them subside but sometimes they reach the surface again coming up for air. This was an amazing poem, Ian.


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Ian it is a shame you did not spend more of your career writing prose. You swirl the pen and a might storm raise from the paper.


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Randy Behavior 5 years ago from Near the Ocean

TL I enjoyed the pattern of repeating words. Were you using a poetic form or just doing something that felt right?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I hope it wasn't too depressing, Becky. It was full of late teenage angst (even though I was about twenty-one) but better late than never.

Hope you are completely well again, and still drinking lots of liquids.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

You are so, so much cleverer than I, Svetlana. I read your comment twice before I realised what you meant by the allusion to the pianist whose fingers could manage an arpeggio as well as they could a larynx.

Thank you for remembering. I am flattered.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you for your visit, and thank you for your worthwhile comment, Nikki.

Much appreciated, I really mean it.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Mike, I thank you. No, I didn't write a lot really. Even with stories written for the children in my classes, I think my "works" amount to an average of two per year.

I have started again, but I have always been a very slow writer, and the works in hand are going so slowly.

But thank you again and again for your encouragement.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

RB, great to see you here. I can't honestly say why I wrote it in this manner. Perhaps it felt right.

I know that I spent a lot of time at the back of Psychology of Education lectures, scribbling away at some of this stuff. I didn't understand Psych. of Ed. at all and it helped to fill the time for double periods.

Believe it or not, I have kept it for years, but only recently got to like it.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, if you promise not to drown anyone, I will see you in Rome on Monday. Pack wisely, we will be going all over Italy.

Actually, in my story I will NOT let you drown or run over or slay anyone. All other requests I can take. No, I think I can take any requests...

It is such a nice feeling to be in charge. No wonder writers are punished severely for their deeds - for what they make their characters go through.


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Beata Stasak 5 years ago from Western Australia

Beautiful and inspiring, thank you:)


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Rosemay50 5 years ago from Hawkes Bay - NewZealand

Be young, party, get drunk and forget it all, for when you are drunk you can behave as you like without thought of other or God.

Because the burdon of being a man is too hard, responsibility, having and achieving goals, looking inside yourself and maybe not liking what you see, not wanting to grow up and face a world with all the problems and troubles that go with it.

So just get drunk and play and forget it all.

Yes a deep and dark poen indeed but very well written. voted up

P.S. Congratulations on your 100th hub


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

It's funny, Svetlana, but I was just thinking that writers can make their characters do all the things that perhaps they want to do and don't have the guts. And there is no punishment that can be metered out to the wicked scribblers.

You are going to enjoy this one, Svetlana of the Numbers. I was going to write, "Saint Svetlana of the Numbers" but thought that that would be pushing it,

I was in my shower yesterday, and you know how OUR minds run on numbers... Mine on multiples of 13 and you on 4 + 2. So we can very much agree on sixes and 13s and 26's and 39's. 26th September 1939 is on Monday.

How about this magical equation:

(4 + 2)[(4 + 2) + (4 + 2)]

I could have written:

(4 + 2)(4 + 2 + 4 + 2)

but the former looks prettier, if not as elegant.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you for your visit, and than you for your kind comment, Beata. I have once again read the short poem that is your profile and it brings back such fond memories of W.A.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you for your perceptive comment, Rosemay, and thank you for the congratulations for my 100 hubs. That could just mean that I am writing too much, you know.

Maybe we could have notifications that say something like: "You have managed to resist the temptation to publish too many hubs. Well done!"


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Yes, Ian, I liked your comment. Even the fact that such things came to you in the shower - I had "a shower" moment once - when I could bear "my writing" no longer - but it only got worse there - I was laughing out loud and if the bath itself was big enough I would be on the floor rolling ... I am not exaggerating. Luckily for me, I was getting ready to go out for a dancing night - so I did not write much after that madness. Let me assure you that I am no "Saint" and I have no intention of becoming one. I still relish the idea about writing about "Lucifer" - The Bearer of Light - you bear light and go straight to Hell (or grateful readers will send you there anyways).

“Sono una donna vile e malvagia, ma ti prego perdonami, mio amato padre, prima di morire!!!!”

I would not say my mind "runs on numbers" - I just love joking about it - and creating the point of reference -- it helps.

But I loved your parenthesis - it helped me the ... oops ... too revealing.

Yes, that was the point - I was not going to reveal too much - just a cup of coffee in Rome, then...

though it is going to take a bit longer than one day - well, I cannot help it - I am a serial murd... oops ... writer...

But "the number of chapters" will be less than

(4 + 2)[(4 + 2) + (4 + 2)]

"Number of chapters" = X, where

3 < X < (2011 - 1939)

Did you mean to say that you saw this world for the first time on Monday as well?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, my friend, you get funnier and funnier. Maybe we are marching to the same drum.

I believe I saw the world for the first time on a Thursday, but I cannot remember whether that was correct. I was a child at the time. I'm going to Google search it... I'm too lazy today for all that "take one and carry one", business.

Oops! Tuesday.

Now I'm going to Google search Tuesday's child is... full of grace.

Yeah Right!!!


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, tesoro mio, practice your Italiano, will you?

You will need it [{(Spanish, too!)}]

Note the parenthesis, por favor.

Oh, dolor! Oh, dolor! Oh, Pain! Oh, Pain!

If you want you can bring your drum, too, I think Mike will be delighted to put us through field training (or is it basic training? or drills?)

Anyway, he will relish the sight - us marching better and better with each passing day - he is an expert in all things military.

====================

Forget the dream, forget your nightmare, circa 1961, we are going on a trip...

We are gonna have FUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is going to be AAAWWWEEESSSOOOMMMEEE!!!

P.S. Just remember to book the aisle seat. For you it is a short flight, but for me it ....

Oh, Pain! Oh, Pain!

I promise you have never had anything like that before.

Fun? or Pain? Maybe a little be of both - you always need to balance, that is your fate.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

We can both have the aisle seat, Svetlana... we'll be on the other side of the plane to each other, and not only be able to chat and stretch our legs, but I will be able to make lewd remarks about everyone you goes by and you can criticise their clothes and Mike can be out backup if things get nasty.

I hate to tell you, that you will have to do the drinking for the pair of us (Mike might help you) as I still do not drink... Thirteen years is a long time.

I am in the the middle of a poem to commemorate my 26th September, so if you hear of me being drummed out of HP, you will know why.

I haven't written a poem for about three years or more... no, it's less, but it's still along time.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Wow, 100 hubs. I didn't even see that until Rosemay commented on it. I had to go see. Fantastic.

No, I am not feeling better. I need my allergy medicine and they keep back-ordering it. I will call again Mon. to see if they have it yet. If they don't, I will have to call my Dr. and have her write another prescription for it. I will have to pay for this one as my insurance only pays for maintenance meds if they are ordered by mail.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Poor you. I don't understand your medical system. We are so lucky here. i don't have to pay for a thing, even prescriptions, because I am over sixty-five, and as you know the National Health is absolutely free. So when I had to go to hospital for the pneumonia attack, it didn't cost anything, and regardless of what a lot of moaners say, the attention was wonderful.

It's amazing that I have whacked out 100 pieces of scribble. I wonder who wrote it all for me.

Ha ha ha!


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, I remember that you don't drink, so I was not really planning a drinking night...

For the first Chapter you don't have too many choices, I am the writer and I am writing you, so...

To be honest, my writing took a life of its own. When I started writing it (in June), it looked nothing like it looks now. I had to re-write everything and I am still in the process. So, to meet the deadline - I don't want to miss my flight - I'd better get busy with it (she said in the middle of painting and going out to dance later).

Good luck with your poem. The most important thing is to have fun writing.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

I am not 65 yet, and I have amazingly good insurance for this country. It is on the free enterprise system still. The government pays for my insurance because My husband is a Disabled Veteran.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

I forgot to ask you: will we be criticizing all clothes or do you have some preferences?

Your wish is my command: I will stop over in London.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Becky, I find that very reassuring to read. We know so little about the workings of our friend's countries. We don't even have veterans in this country, except for a few, as there is no conscription.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, I am beginning to look forward to this story of yours with anticipation, tinged with a little trepidation... and I like the idea of that, a lot.

And I have no worries about what you wear, I feel that you will most probably have really good dress sense. I can almost imagine you fitting into the North London scene with your clothes... North Londoners are better dressed... if you like black.

No, that is a generalisation but the South Londoner tends to be more chav, whereas the North Londoner has more class.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, I don't normally wear black. The most important reason is that it is not my colour - it kills me - you know about colour coordination, there are at least four types of faces - it goes by season: Spring, Summer, Fall & Winter.

I don't remember my "season", but black is one of the "no no" colours for me. I do have a few items, but it is an exception.

Another reason why I dislike black immensely is... I will tell you later.

However,.., the piece is not about being proper - it is quite the opposite. The same reason you drown people... In that piece we both can get drunk and lie under the table and be discovered in the morning... still asleep... (No, that idea just popped in my head).

Writing gives us freedom - I had so much fun writing it - because I can do everything that I cannot do in real life.

There are many parts to the story, but I have to shuffle everything and re-write parts for tomorrow. So, I have to decide on the beginning.

It was meant for the 26th, so you understand the reference and the deadline, and no matter whether it will be a shorter or longer chapter, I will publish it before midnight Toronto time (I am five hours behind London). It is my gift to you, but I hope if anybody else reads it... they might enjoy it as well.

Now, back to painting and writing.

See you tomorrow in Rome./La vedi domani in Roma.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you. A lovely comment... I almost said, "A lovely hub".

I look forward to it.

So it's Rome, is it? I loved being there. It was so vibrant; so decadent. so full of everything,

Did you know that the movie, 'Roman Holiday' with Audrey Hepburn and Gregory Peck was filmed during the days of Technicolor and could very easily been filmed in colour, but the director was aware that the mise en scene would have upstaged the storyline in colour, because that city is so beautiful... so it was filmed in black and white?


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Happy Birthday Ian.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Happy Birthday Ian. Thanks Mike for the tip.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you, Mike. I aim to go out and to be insufferably rude to people for most of today. That's what is so nice about being old.

People say, "My goodness. He's getting quite nasty in his dotage", but what most people who know me well, will say, is that I have always been obnoxious.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Mike was put on this planet to direct good vibes and positive thoughts towards the kind, the chaste and the pure. Unfortunately he saw me aa a light at the end of a tunnel, and directed you, my dear friend , towards me, bearing gifts and calling out salutations, only to find a disagreeable old coot, sitting in a grubby dressing gown and muttering obscenities to my visitors.

Not really, but we can all aspire to something similar.


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attemptedhumour 5 years ago from Australia

Just think how many words you have swirling around in that scon of yours? I didn't want to write scone, as you would pronounce it as such, so it's scon! Anyway, a hundred hubs is but a pin prick in the rich vein that awaits it's unearthing. Now get cracking on your journey towards 200 600 10,000 hubs, then I'll be impressed (a bit). Now you know this poem is challenging for me early in the morning when I'm fresh, but it's 11-25 pm, so I can't think of anything earth shattering to write. So i shall read it again when I'm more focussed. I've been laying blue stones all day and that's a darned good excuse. Good night William, until the morrow.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Hi, Keith. I just sent you a long reply and lost the lot when I realised I hadn't signed in.

Thanks for the comment. Always looked forward to and always appreciated. I still laugh at your comments about "Education and West Australia" being oxymoronic.

I was talking to a friend yesterday and "bigging you up" regarding your verse and other writings. I hope your ears were burning.

By the way, my oldest and perhaps my best friend, a very good published writer, lives in Victoria. She is not a novelist but a stunning writer. Have you heard of her? Hanifa Deen.

Take care,

Ian.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Tell me, my ever-surprising friend, why Sardanapalus? Wasn't he a bit of a self-indulgent weirdo who liked dressing in women's wear, twiddling away his days weaving & making dresses, and eventually leading his unfortunate armies into defeat before committing a unique & bizarre suicide? Or - is all or some of that actually the main analogy of this poem? -

". . . the memory of a half forgotten past

. . . let the taste of what may come tomorrow . . . "

Twenty-one, huh? Precocious lad! No wonder our WOL's swimming for his life!! I could use a life preserver myself!

h-e-l-p-p-p-p--p-----p-- - - ---- ----- -

By the way - I am a Tuesday's child. (see February 2, 1932) Grin!

I love your works and the comments they inspire, even when I'm too unsophisticated to properly follow all - or most - of them. Need I even explain that your audience is way over my head? ( may I grab your hand, WOL?)


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Funny you say that NellieAnna, I feel your comments are over my head. I try to keep mine simple because I know the old Coot can't handle all the excess. Love the "grubby dressing gown" comment Ian. I think it is probably pristine. Mine is just for warmth. I am freezing in this air conditioning that my husband needs so badly.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Happy Birthday, Ian. If you wish to sulk in some dark corner of yours, I respect your choice, but why?

Isn't life what we make it? I am not quite sure why birthdays are supposed happy, but I wish mine were different - not blending one into another.

Last year I did not celebrate (another idiocy - what is there to celebrate?) But I happened to remember it - I was so sick and I had to work and I was taking cough syrup not to cough on the customers - the bloody thing made me HIGH. I was not coughing, but I did not make much sense either.

But Daniel's birthdays were good for two years - last one and this one - he will remember - this year we went to see the performance of Cirque du Soleil. It was awesome! But I HAD to make it memorable.

You still can do, too.

Again, happy Birthday!


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Ian. Svetlana has given you a starring roll in, what I am guessing is a birthday present you will never forget.

Nellieanna the rest of us pretend to know where Ian has taken us. But often are blindfolded and just listen for clues.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Ah - What a place! Thank you both for the encouraging words.

Becky - you give me too much credit for being (possibly meaningfully) obscure, though I am processing a suspicion that he prefers the excess at times, - at least it seems to stir his replies to a flamboyant pitch and adds ever so much sparkle and color to the discussions.

Mike, now you've described close to what it is going on here where I sit, trying to follow along. Thank you.

So these are encouraging words from both of you, (I think). But again, maybe a little over my head, especially as I sit here multitasking, also trying to figure out my health insurance plan choices, if any, for 2012. grrrrrr.

Becky - you are insurance-fortunate, though I am sorry to hear that your husband is a disabled vet. Nice to know, though, that he and his are well-treated. I wonder if his need for chilly A/C temperature is related to his disability? Different temperature requirements in the same house really are something of an issue. But it's probably simpler for you to bundle up than for him to stay cool, huh? I have only myself to try to please in that, and I try to err on the side of frugality.

My health insurance is based on being both over 65 and a widow of a City of Dallas retiree. I'm beginning to think I'm paying premiums for the two of us, though. So if I'm grumpy & frazzled, - please understand why! If I missed the points of the messages, PLEASE do!

Ian - you must be relishing the trip to Rome by now! And in such good company, too!

I like you in red, Svetlana! - You're possibly a "Winter". Bright, vibrant slightly cool colors. - yes, red is 'cool' unless it's a more vermillion, which is warm. I'm a "Spring", though I think since my hair is now silver rather than its natural warmer tint, I may be changing seasons. I find I wear colors I didn't before as a Spring and some of them, I wear less. I used to love ivory. Now I'm washed out in it. I never could wear bright white; now I can. ~ etc, etc.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Ian - thank you for letting me know the exact day of your birthday. I knew it was in this time frame but I didn't want to ask. Now I can go add it to my Libra webpage! When I was updating the page from Virgo, I started to just put "sometime in Libra" for your birthday on the page, but figured I'd get the real skinny eventually. So this is really timely! I'll go fix it right now! You fit the Libra description so well! Happy one, dear pet. It's a tiny gift compared to Svetlana's, but it's from the heart, too. There's a link to it on my profile, by the way, and it's a rather pretty page. :-) Or, heck - here it is:

http://nellieanna.com/11libra.html

I didn't know that about "Roman Holiday"! wow. I really did wonder why it was in B&W, since most movies at that point were in color. That is really good info. It's one of my favorite movies, too. Think I'll put it in the DVD now, in fact, in honor of YOUR birthday. I may have a sip of Limoncello just to celebrate you and Rome!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Some of the Sardanapalus character is woven into the fabric of the poem/my life.

I can remember that when girl friends and boy friends of mine (two vaguely divergent types) would introduce me to their mothers, said Maters would usually say, within closer scrutiny of my good self, "II don't want you to have anything to do with that boy. He's a nasty little piece of work. Why don't you choose someone nice like Kevin?"

And then said Mater would sit me down and ply me with food, as I looked as if I "needed a decent meal".


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

It was a pleasant day on South London, in honour of me. 22 degrees which was OK, but a day in which it makes one think that London (and England) is so beautiful... Then the skies opened (also in honour of me) and the poem writing that I was attempting struggled on for two lines.

Two!!!

Freezing in the air conditioning, Becky?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, this may sound trite.. and maybe it is trite, but last year on my birthday I had not met you and the several wonderful friends I now have on HP.

I used to read this sort of thing when I first joined, and I would thonk "WhaaaattteeevaaaaaaaaH!!!" and think what pathetic lives these people must have, but I have got to know you and...

and I started to list the people who have encouraged me and put up with my laziness and my arrogamce and indolence. I don't want to leave anyone out, so your name is the only one i will mention, buit they all know who they are, and if they do not, then I hope at some time they do. Some are very old friends and some have just appeared on my horizon.

Some have come and stayed for a while and them wandered off. But every one has made me feel that I in on a constant learning mode and I thank all of you, of them.

Birthdays? Bugger them...

but Friendship? Long may it reign.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Mike, I am already seated in my bath-chair and waiting to be pushed along the Via Vento or Lungarno. I will be the disgusting old roué with the plaid shawl across my knees, STILL groping at nubile bottoms as the young persons pass. Neither preferring male nor female, but whatever is in arm's reach.

And Mike, you may ask me to get up and walk, using the silver tipped walking stick to help me along. But beware, you never know what I might have secreted beneath that woollen shawl across my aged knees,

'Twere well that I sat and let sleeping dogs lie.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I am still catching up with greetings, I think half the children i ever taught who are on FaceBook have sent me greetings, and I have been reading those,

On to Rome, I feel.

The Sardanapalus (Delacroix version) reminds me so much of a few parties I attended in my vastly misspent youth.

And it also reminds me of one of my favourite poets, who happened to say:

I cried for madder music and for stronger wine,

But when the feast is finished..."

I love Dowson.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, I have the same feeling - as you know, we often have the same feelings. I told you that my best friend, the one I had in school - her birthday is Sept. 25th. I thought it was the best friendship I ever had... Maybe it is just the haze of youth. I don't know.

It is not about your birthday at all. But when I wrote the story, I wanted you to like it, of course, and it is the intention that counts. You were the first person who encouraged me to stay on HP, otherwise I would have left in February? March?

It does not mean, that I singled you out - the first person to whom I wrote a tribute/collage was Augustine - I thought he was the strongest to take it and stand all alone feeling that I was insane to display favoritism so brazenly.

There is no favoritism - we are all different and I am happy that we are.

The idea was born at the end of June - you see how long it took me. The other articles (I am not naming names) are sitting there wondering why did I put them in the prison.

You don't have to like it - I mean my story. Nobody has. I had an idea that if I can become a good writer, people would read it because they want it, not because they expect me to invest the same time and energy for reading. This "tit-for-tat" HP thing is self-indulgence.

I don't mind it - but I have no time anymore -

The funniest thing - I was writing this "thank you thing" as the last article for my HP life.

It turned out to be a never-ending novel.


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attemptedhumour 5 years ago from Australia

Hi Ian, I must have been laying bluestone pitchers in my sleep because your poem is still a bit of a puzzler for a blockyeded brickie. I had a go at writing a prose poem on the weekend but it just doesn't work for me. It's a language that I don't possess, or perhaps one rung too many up the ladder. Rosemay seems to have decoded it quite well, so I'll stick with her analysis. Oh well, happy birthday mate and well done on reaching the ton. I would have got there too, but i keep unpublishing some of my hubs. Cheers


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, I have read the first two sections and I am entranced, That is the word. I feel as if I am being carried along and that I am actually having the conversations that you have created.

It is enchanting.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thanks for your comments, Keith. I didn't think it needed decoding, but that is the way I am. I either speak in very simplistic language, or this sort of garbage, But it's my garbage, and that makes me happy.

I am the person who shouts at the dishwasher when it starts to show off and try to annoy me.

You know what dishwashers can be like. The bottom basket jumps off its wheels just to piss me off, so I shout at it, and then grumble and mutter at it for a while. Sometimes I let it off, but if it gets really silly, I give it a good piece of my mind.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, when you said that painting reminds you of the parties - did you mean orgies? I have not checked the story - I think I read about it too long ago... Just a thought. I guess you were joking.


naturalsolutions 5 years ago

It is simply, forget everything right? it is more on broken heart quotes. We don't have to forget our dreams we just have to change it and make this dream better.


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attemptedhumour 5 years ago from Australia

Because it's over my head doesn't mean it's garbage, it just means that I'm being honest about a style of writing that i have difficulty understanding. Some readers would no doubt do the same about Mick and Joe's inane conversations, or some of my simplistic poems. That's the way the cookie crumbles, but most of your stuff is a joy to read, even for blockheads. I just remember that I've only rinsed the dishes in the dish washer, so your hub wasn't totally wasted on me. Cheers mate, it's only ten to ten, so i can still think a tiny bit, on diminishing batteries.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

You say, "Orgies!" and I say, "Parties".

It's all a matter of perspective.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

naturalsolutions, thanks for your visit. You are right, but it's also about rejection of perceived values, if you like.

Some memories cannot be tweaked.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Keith, I admire your poems and your comments so very much, and I hate you putting yourself down, if only in jest.

You, the "working class bloke; the guy whose other people's stuff is above your head" (your words) are only a figment of your own imagination.

When I was teaching, one of the surest ways I had of assessing a child's intelligence, was if he/she could manipulate words, show perception and understanding and also have a good sense of humour. You have all of these, my friend. In spades.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, you know my curiosity - I just have not participated in that kind of perspectives. Yet.

But this is one hell of a party (very romantic!):

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Its dominant feature is a large divan, with its golden elephants, on which a nude prostrates herself and beseeches the apathetic Sardanapalus for mercy. Sardanapalus had ordered his possessions destroyed and sex slaves murdered before immolating himself, once he learned that he was faced with military defeat.

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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

". . . And needs must inward turn to find his soul,

A SOUL WITH WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND HUMILY,

Which needs must face the ravages of years as on they roll."


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

One or two of those ladies seem to have come somewhat under dressed. I wonder of their mothers knew they had left the house like that.

What do you think, Becky?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Hi Nellie and Svetlana,

Not the best day since my birthday (Ha ha ha!)

Sorry about a joint letter, but I am feeling a little Grrr!

I went to the Common today to try to write a bit more of the poem with which I am struggling a bit. It’s a poem that nobody is going to like, but who cares?

They lock the car park at 6:00 every day, and although I was in there writing and there were two other cars, some little “Jobsworth” came and locked it without me seeing him.

The other two cars had contained a lady with her granddaughter who were going for a walk, and another lady walking her dog.

The other two ladies came back to find they couldn’t get out, and believe me, if cars are left in there overnight, they are almost completely demolished. I saw one once… everything destroyed and then is was torched.

We rang the “Emergency number” which luckily I could get because a friend of mine had been a Park Ranger, but the Council had sacked all the park Rangers on 17th September to save money. So Diane, my Park Ranger couldn’t herlp apart from to give me the “Emergency Number”

They didn't answer the call until 40 minutes later. Then passed the buck for a while. Then, at about 4:45 some little xxxxx (Did I say that?) who had been there all the time, but we hadn’t seen him, came & opened the gate. He refused to answer me when I spoke to him. Then an old xxxx told him to lock us all in because we were demanding to know why we were being treated so badly. I'm certainly complaining tomorrow.

To make matters worse, when I had got out of the car to explain to the first lady that I was ringing my friend, I dropped my walking stick, and as we were forced to drive out quickly, rather than get locked in, I drove out and didn’t realise till I got home. I drove back, but someone must have found it..

So I arrived at home at 8:00… not a fun day.

Oh! I won £10 on the lottery. Yay!

Grr!

And Double Grrr!!!


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, (Svetlana says all covered in paint which turned out to be the wrong colour anyways and rushing out, not colour, the typist(ess)) - take this comment and write a story - it is as long as a hub - everyone would love it. You could write it as if it happened to somebody else.

You write the best funny stories.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thanks.

By the way, what coloured colour was the colour supposed to be before you realised it wan't the correct colour?

I have a colour which I have in six rooms of this house. It's one of those colours that are mixed for you in the DIY shops. It's a Dulux paint and the colour is called Salisbury Stones #4. It's a sort of "non colour" like a pale creamy green with about 1% green and... I want it virtually everywhere.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

I have a very, very pale mint green in two of my rooms and trying to work it in more. The painting is rather decadent. I believe the Romans had many of these type parties. There is a reason that they were called liberals. They forgot their clothing a lot. Either that or they were playing the reverse of 'Gone With the Wind'.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, I was going for contrast - but I made a mistake - there is not enough of it -

The paint is called "Gold Sunset".

There are four colours: Sailing Sky (Darker Blue, focal point #1), "Sun God" (Bright Yellow/Orange, focal point #2), "Celestial" (Lighter blue), and ... Gold Sunset.

I will have to go buy lighter colour. That is for Daniel - I have never had such bright colours - when I will finish I can share photos on FB - I like it. Maybe I am ready for colour. In my room, (if I ever make it decent), I would make an Orange Wall as a Focal Point and there is Blue (dark blue) painting there - there is no name to it, but I call it "Surfacing".


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

You just used my favourite word, Becky.

Decadent.

I like decadence because one can take one's time in that. This party, on the other hand, has a good deal going on.

But one can always try!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

As I said, Svetlana, I a would like to haveSalisbury Stones #4 all over the house. Except in the back living room, which is north facing and only gets direct light in one corner for about three to four weeks of the year. That is painted a rich, dark red, and with the terra cota tiles on the floor, interior wall to ceiling wooden shutters, Afghani kelimson on the furniture and and and, it looks (going back to one of my favourite words) decadent.

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