Is Marijuana or Cannabis a Painkiller – Let Me Tell You

Cannabis / Marijuana

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What exactly is Cannabis, also known as Marijuana?

According to -

Dictionaries: Marijuana is a “strong-smelling plant from whose dried leaves a number of euphoriant and hallucinogenic drugs are prepared.” Cannabis is a synonym.


Biologists: Marijuana is any plant of the genus Cannabis; a coarse bushy annual with palmate leaves and clusters of small green flowers; yields tough fibres and narcotic drugs.


Medical science (pharmacology): Marijuana is a medicinal herb containing about 60 cannabinoids (chemical compounds that activate neurotransmitters released in the brain.)

Nutritional analysis (Ref: Wikipedia)

Calories: 1100 g: 567 kcal

Protein: 30.6

Carbohydrate: 10.9

Dietary fiber: 6.0

Fat: 47.2

Saturated fat: 5.2

Palmitic 16:0: 3.4

Stearic 18:0: 1.5

Monounsaturated fat: 5.8

Oleic 18:1 (Omega-9): 5.8

Polyunsaturated fat: 36.2

Linoleic 18:2 (Omega-6): 27.6

Linolenic 18:3 (Omega-3): 8.7

Gamma-Linolenic 18:3 (Omega-6): 0.8

Cholestero: l0 mg

Moisture: 4.7

Ash: 6.6

Vitamin A (B-Carotene): 4.0 IU/100g

Thiamine (Vit B1): 1.4mg

Riboflavin (Vit B2): -0.3 mg

Pyridoxine (Vit B6): 0.1 mg

Vitamin C: 1.0 mg

Vitamin E: 9.0 IU/100g

Sodium: 9.0 mg

Calcium: 74.0 mg

Iron: 4.7 mg

Industrialists: Canabis is ‘hemp’, which contains only 1% THC and turned into a vast variety of products such as pulp, paper, fuel, cloth, rope, resin, hemp oil, wax, cosmetics, jewelry, and even as an insulating material for constructions. - (Ref.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp

Dieticians: Marijuana is a nutritious food rich in minerals to be eaten raw in salads, or grounded in milk, tea, cake mix, cereals, etc

The man in the street: Cannabis is marijuana, a hallucinogenic drug able to arouse feelings of great elation. . Various extracts, including hashish and hash oil are also produced from the plant. In order to arouse a sense of euphoria the level of THC should be high. (THC: tetrahydrocannabinols, the psychoactive property that creates a sense of euphoria.)

Taxonomy:

  • Life: A living organism
  • Domain: Cellular
  • Kingdom: Plantae (Plants)
  • Subkingdom: Tracheobionta (Vascular plants)
  • Superdivision: Spermatophyta (Seed plants)
  • Division: Magnoliophyta (Flowering plants)
  • Class: Magnoliopsida (Dicotyledons)
  • Subclass: Hamamelididae
  • Order: Urticales
  • Family: Cannabaceae (Hemp family)
  • Genus: Cannabis L. (hemp)
  • Species: Cannabis sativa L. (Marijuana)
  • Sub species: Cannabis indica and Cannabis ruderalis and a total of 46 varieties of cultivars.

Evidently Cannabis is a plant with vast, versatile qualities, as each part of it can be harvested and utilized for a specific purpose.

But is it a painkiller?

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My personal experience of cannabis aka marijuana –

I was in my late thirties when I decided to test the effect of marijuana. After only 4 puffs of a joint I found myself momentarily ‘stoned’ – not able to move. My body was heavy, nailed to the ground, but staggeringly alive as every single nerve was all of a sudden hyperactive.

The next moment Tachycardia became my lot. My heart rate exceeded to 120 highly irregular beats per minute. Seeing with the eye of my mind the headlines of my death in our local newspaper – "Well-Known Beloved Citizen Died from An Overdose Of Marijuana”, and seeing the shock on the faces of my children while my coffin was sinking into a grave, made me giggle as if there was no tomorrow.

In vain I pleaded for help. “Please, call the paramedics, I am going to be the first woman who had died laughing.” Of course, nobody took notice of me. In fact, they assured me that I will be okay, I might as well enjoy being ‘doped’. After about 6 hours I was able to get myself to the nearest emergency care centre. According to the doctor on duty I was ‘too old’ to test the effect of such a strong adrenaline-booster. (Adrenaline booster’s toe in a jam tin, I thought.) After treatment of 6 weeks my heart was finally able to beat its normal rhythm again.

I will never know if Tachycardia was caused by the marijuana, or any other additions to the joint, or my personal reaction on the weird feeling of having one’s head in the clouds while one’s body was nailed to the ground.

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A couple of years later

I rented a cottage on a farm. To my surprise I found myself amidst a hippie colony. Oh, I always wanted to be a hippie! To be a hippie in my naughty forties was quite an exiting experience, as I was firmly, too firmly, settled in the artificial World of Pretension, in constant mourning because all my young-girl’s dreams of happiness and success were trampled into the mud while I was marching in the rut of a bucket pump’s ass.


Very carefully I started to use marijuana as a relaxer on Friday evenings. The result was feelings of carelessness and happiness. On Friday evenings colours were brighter, smells were clearer, food tastier than ever, and every nerve in my body was hyper-sensitive and eager to be pleased. The fact that my short-term memory left me time and again on Friday evenings in the lurch only provoked outbursts of highly enjoyable laughter. Fortunately I didn't get hooked and didn't miss it when I moved on to the next stage of my life two years later.

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Recently –

– a decade after the hippies - I have tried marijuana again in my desperate search for an effective painkiller. I took a few puffs and even eat half a teaspoon of it, truly desperate. Within less than half an hour I found myself nailed to my bed. Sadly, while my head was spinning and my body felt heavy and stoned, every nerve in my body was hyperactive, turning my pain into a fire more unbearable than ever before. I could feel for the first time the very source of my reflective pain.

At least marijuana can be used to detect the source of reflective pain, I thought, and I was not even able to giggle when the eye of my mind saw ME burning in a Wicker Man’s belly. Fortunately I fell asleep just to woke up an hour later more aware of my pain than before.

For three days my pain was more intense than before, which brought me to the conclusion that the marijuana must have paralyzed the ability of my brain to reduce natural pain-killing chemicals, which may not be 100% effective, but still capable to keep pain from driving a person crazy.

Read about the body’s natural pain fighters here - http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=55001

Conclusion -

Marijuana is not a painkiller. To the contrary, it intensifies pain and destroy the brain’s ability to activate pain-reducing endorphins.

So, if authorities try to justify the legalization of marijuana on its ability to kill pain, that will be a pack of lies.

The dangers in Marijuana according to my personal experience are -

  • Marijuana has a negative and dangerous effect on the heart and vascular system. It may instigate Tachycardia and Angina.
  • It impairs psychomotor performance.
  • It increases the ability of nerves to sense pain.
  • It decreases the ability of opiate receptors in the brain to reduce perception of pain.

Marijuana - Final Conclusion -

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Bad news –

Recently a devoted mother of 31 allegedly became the first woman in Britain to DIE from cannabis poisoning.

Ref.: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548669/Devout-Christian-mother-three-31-woman-Britain-DIE-cannabis-poisoning-smoking-joint-bed.html

Cannabis kills 30,000 people per year!

Ref: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-179264/Cannabis-kills-30-000-year.html

Good news -

A specific non-toxic ingredient of cannabis, Cannabidiol, treats certain Cancers and Epilepsy.

http://drsircus.com/medicine/cancer/cannabis-treats-cancer-and-epilepsy


Interesting comments on this article:

From: DzyMsLizzy

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It sounds as though you ended up with some other ingredients, even if those were accidental inclusions.

As to the rest, I'm not sure where you're getting your statistical information, but it certainly runs counter to my own research. In point of fact:

1) There have been NO deaths directly attributable to Cannabis alone--deaths where Cannabis is involved also have another contributing factor, such as alcohol.

2) You cannot "overdose" on Cannabis in the same way as you can with legal narcotics

3) Accounts such as the headlines you mentioned are generally sensationalist tabloids, not concerned with fact finding

4) The compound in Cannabis that gets you "high" is THC (not "THS"), and no, that is not a pain killer.

5) The compounds in Cannabis that can be effective medicinally are known as 'CBDs,' and are effective (with individual variations) on some pain, and for conditions such as insomnia. (You need to understand the difference, and buy from a reliable source, getting the exact (pure) strain you need.) Casual sources are quite likely to have contaminants that can be hazardous, and/or simply be the wrong strain. You don't want a high concentration of THCs for pain relief; you want higher CBDs. That is where knowing what you are doing, and understanding the product comes in.

6) Cannabis and hemp are botanical cousins, but are NOT the same plant. Hemp is useful industrially, for everything from paper-making to clothing and ropes, but you couldn't get "high" on hemp if you wanted to--the THCs are far too low to non-existent.

7) Hemp used to be a common plant in the USA; everyone, including President George Washinton grew it. During WWII, farmers were encouraged to grow it for the war effort.

7) It became "demonized" later on, when the paper industry decided they'd rather use trees. William Randolph Hearst rallied his buddies to instigate the ban.

Those are just a few key points. If you feel so inclined, you can read my in-depth article on Medical Marijuana. And don't trust government-funded sources of information, for they have a vested interest in keeping this beneficial herb illegal.

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Just Ask Susan 2 years ago from Ontario, Canada

When I broken my leg a few years back the hospital here never gave me anything for pain. Long story .... anyway I was in so much pain that I smoked a joint thinking it would help WRONG! I was so sorry I had as the pain got so much worse to the point where I was screaming. Other people have told me that pot helps their pain. Maybe in some instances it does actually help but for me it sure didn't.


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wilderness 2 years ago from Boise, Idaho

An interesting story, and perhaps one that more people should read. For myself, as few chemicals as I can put into my body, whether vitamins, prescriptions or herbs, the happier I am. My body evolved without THC, as shown by the bodies reaction to it, and it should remain free from it.


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Sunshine625 2 years ago from Orlando, FL

I'm sorry you had such bad experiences Martie! Marijuana is effective in treating some patients with their problems, but unfortunately not all patients. With cancer patients who have no appetite and need nourishment it has been effective. With my cousin's son who suffers from a seizure disorder, cannabis has been proven in studies that it helps those children. I am all for legalization marijuana. I would also like to see drug dealers out of business and get a real job, but they will just find something else to pimp.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Susan, I will certainly not recommend pot as a painkiller. If you have any aches and pains, and even mentally, taking marijuana will make it worse. I have tested it, so nobody will be able to convince me that I'm wrong -:) Good for those who benefit from it....


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Wilderness, the first time I've tried it, I was curious, the second time I was willing to go with the flow, as I had nothing to lose, the 3rd time I was desperate, and I am still desperately looking for an effective painkiller that will not kill me....


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Sunshine, I have experienced some of the benefits of marijuana; I will rather like to see alcohol illegal and marijuana legal. But as a painkiller it is totally ineffective.... for me....


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nighthag 2 years ago from Australia

I've had a few experiences with this drug and while giggles were fun I found its best use was in helping my chronic back pain last year, I was able to function without losing whole days in bed unable to look after my kids. The only negative I found was in impacted my ability to write, giving me a major turn in the dreaded writers block

My doc claimed that it worked differently for different types of pain and people


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WillStarr 2 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Legalizing "medical marijuana' is just an excuse to get high for most users. It does have certain benefits, but for most users, it's just a sham.

Having said that, I do believe that an adult free people should be able to put whatever they want in their bodies as long as they are solely responsible for the result.

Good Hub!


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marcoujor 2 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

Dear Martie,

You have done your usual superb job of tackling a controversial subject with a variety of objective and meaningful personal information.

No doubt the comment stream will contain a variety of opinions, experiences and feelings.

As an RN and currently as a Nursing Instructor, this is a subject that is discussed frequently in the classroom setting. There seems to be an undeniable benefit in the use of medical marijuana with those clients in oncology units and those with HIV / AIDS .

The American Nurses Association actually takes a pro position to the question "Should Marijuana Be a Medical Option?"...

Reasoning: "The American Nurses Association (ANA) recognizes that patients should have safe access to therapeutic marijuana/cannabis. Cannabis or marijuana has been used medicinally for centuries. It has been shown to be effective in treating a wide range of symptoms and conditions." (March 19, 2004)

In sum, as with anything, not everything is for everybody. Thank you for raising such a thought provoking subject. Voted UP and UI.

Love, Maria


Sueswan 2 years ago

Hi Martie,

I have tried marijuana and never had the desire or need to continue using it.

Thank you for sharing your experience because from what I read marijuana helps with pain. Now I know this is not true.

Voted up


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Nighthag, I buy your doctor's claim that it work differently for different types of pain and people. I wish it was able to kill mine. I can also not see myself as a creative writer while taking marijuana. Oh, the bright ideas that come to mind while doped are amazing, but momentarily lost as one's short term memory becomes inactive, and then, that horrible numbness that last for 24-48 hours after one's trip to Dopeland....


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Becky Katz 2 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Martie, I have a dear friend that has an inoperable brain tumor. She has medical cannabis that her husband makes into a butter for her to deal with the pain. She was in extreme pain and it deadens the pain so that she can continue her beloved career of teaching. She could not even function before, and none of the pain pills they gave her worked for her. She is not in pain now, as long as she uses the butter when it starts. Just a bit on some bread.

My son had a nervous breakdown from stress, after a divorce and losing his kids in the process. He adored them, but his ex convinced the judge that he was violent. Probably helped that he was a friend of her parents. He is on medical marijuana for this, and it helps keep the stress level down. He is doing much better at this time.

My husband has severe PTSD. He served in Vietnam for four tours and also was a Sheriff's deputy for many years. Both were very stressful. He is totally disabled and has a lot of trouble sleeping without having multiple bad dreams that wake him and will keep him awake. He took many different types of pills and most of them made him much worse. Those that did not make him worse were ruining his kidneys and liver. He is now using the medical marijuana in brownies and we could not be more pleased. He is mostly back to being the man I married 28 years ago. We were on the verge of divorce because he was so hard to live with and was such a nasty, mean person most of the time. He has regained his sense of humor and gone back to being the loving caring person I fell in love with.

Marijuana, or cannibis, may not be for you, but it definitely works on many other people. They deserve the right to try it and see if it works on them.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Willstar, I have always consider myself free to try everything I don't instinctively fear , and then to chuck the bad and keep the good. In the process I have burnt my fingers more than once. But wth, every sport has its injuries....

Keeping anything illegal only increase underground activities and crime. Much easier to control what is legal. Where lucidity reigns a scale of values becomes unnecessary. (Camus).


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

My dearest Mar, because I know all of that, and because I know the consequences of overdosing, I've tried it as a painkiller. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, it didn't work for me. You know my open mind....

Love you lots, and I so admire your personal experiences and expertise :))


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billybuc 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

Good job Martie. I have an addictive personality as my alcoholism shows quite clearly. I have tried pot twice and liked it far too much, which amusingly scared me. LOL I have no foundation upon which to base any opinion on the pain question...I just know I'm much better off without it.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Sueswan, knowledge is but only like a pair of glasses - it helps us to see better. But we need a sense of responsibility to apply what we see (learn) in a positive and productive way....

I so detest people who know that specific substances change them into irresponsible monsters, or into anything they should not be, and yet they will use it again and again.... There is no cure for Stupidity....


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Billybuc, indeed, you are much better off without it, and best of all, you know it. I have insomnia since 1989 after my father's death. I know sleeping pills will make me sleep, but I also know that I like sleep far too much, and I also know the devastating consequences of taking it, so I don't even keep them in my house. As for alcohol - I can have it in my house, because I just don't like the taste of it, or its effect on me, enough to use it without the intention to relax with a friend or three. Without responsibility knowledge is worthless....


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Of course, Becky, everybody deserves the right to try marijuana for any purpose, and I am truly glad to know that there are people out there who benefit from it. I honestly regret its inability to kill or even reduce my pain - which has become a thorn in my flesh - because I love its ability to relieve my stress and to make me laugh from the bottom of my heart at the merest. Oh, just tell your hubby to have a joint on me.... lol!


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fpherj48 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Martie.....First of all, I thoroughly enjoyed this interesting story you've shared with us. Next, I have to say that I'm very curious as to what the HELL kind of pot is available in South Africa that caused such havoc to your mind and body. Considering the various frights you dealt with from use of pot....I can understand your negative view. (Especially if it did not alleviate your pain!)

I know several cancer pts, individuals with Fibromyalgia, chronic pain syndrome and crippling arthritis, who take marajuana in capsule form (maranol)....and would have ZERO quality of life without it. Having gone the distance with numerous other treatments, I have to believe they are sincere and genuine. For them, I can clearly see the benefits.

Suffice it to say that all substances we humans ingest, via any means in various forms, amounts & frequency, can and do effect each of us differently as our body chemistry and compositions are as individual as we are.

For instance, I am allergic to most all antibiotics (which can be rather scary when my body needs such a Rx, to heal). My body violently rejects any form of "pain" meds and I have even had some severe allergic reactions to "alleged" natural/homeopathic supplements. Yet, these same drugs are taken well by others and have given quick, successful relief.

I think it's fair to say, we all need to do our homework, research and as you say, "use responsibly" anything we introduce into our delicate, but complex system.

Your hub is very informational. UP+++ P.S. Have you tried melatonin for sleep issues? I SWEAR by it ...5mg. nightly. HUGS!!


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Faith Reaper 2 years ago from southern USA

Hi Martie,

I'm with fpherj and loved your stories, but am wondering, too, about exactly what kind of pot you tried! Those are extreme reactions to pot, but as has been pointed out, each of us react differently to different substances.

I have known cancer patients who were unable to eat due to nausea and it helped them to be able to eat. I have read studies that say it does help with PMS and Glaucoma too. However, as Bill pointed out, those with addiction issues, it can lead to the use of much harder drugs.

Thank you for sharing your experiences as relates to pain.

Up and more

Hugs,

Faith Reaper


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

@ fpher, you will make me try it again! Maybe I tried what they call 'Durban Poison' down here.... -:) Yes, what works for others may not work for us.

@ Faith, fortunately I am too scared to try harder drugs. I hate the feeling of being intoxicated. Ì honestly love my mind and hate being not able to use it.


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MsDora 2 years ago from The Caribbean

Martie, thank you for the warning. You really gave the product enough chances to prove itself. Voted Useful for sure.


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fpherj48 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Ah, Martie....I see. and the name, "Durban POISON," caused you no curiosity? Different "mixtures" of pot are given names for a reason. You always want to be certain what you have is the pure and natural dried plant.......mixed or "laced" with nothing!

In all honesty, being a "boomer," it's safe to say I have known my share of pot smokers......even "stoners." NEVER, have I heard nor witnessed such negative reactions as you describe.

If this were the case......I'm going to assume 90% would be "ONE TIME" experimenters!


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bravewarrior 2 years ago from Central Florida

Martie, I never had an adverse reaction to smoking weed, with the exception of a major case of the munchies. I found it to be very stimulating for sex. It really heightened all feeling. Of course, that being said, if it heightens pleasure zones, I suppose it could do the same for pain.

I'm all for legalizing pot. It's far less harmful than many of the drugs on and off the market. I'm shocked to learn that people have died from it. It makes me wonder if perhaps it was laced with something.

I'm sad to hear you had 3 miserable days after trying it to relieve your pain. I wish there was something your doctors could find to solve your pain problems. I can't imagine what you are up against on a daily basis. My heart goes out to you my friend.


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DDE 2 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

Is Marijuana or Cannabis a Painkiller – Let Me Tell You is mind blowing for show and now more of the difference between the two. I do know of people who smoke Marijuana and they have the exact feelings as you have explained. A helpful and informative hub.Voted up, useful interesting


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

@ MsDora, yes I did, and with a positive attitude, because according to my observation of others, marijuana has more pros than cons, while alcohol and other drugs have more cons than pros. Of course, there are exceptions, just as there are some babies who can handle coffee while others can't.

@ fpher & bravewarrior - The 1st experience was a nightmare, and most probably because the weed was mixed with something else. The last one was also a nightmare, and actually quite understandable according to my logic. If marijuana is able to heighten pleasure zones, why on earth will it skip pain zones? Nerves are nerves, are they not? If their ability to sense is increased, why will it not sense all there is to sense?

During my hippie-stage I had no aches and pains to be heightened; I was able to enjoy only the benefits, although I hated the contra-indications - fatigue for 12-48 hours. I am an adrenaline junkie, when I am awake I want to move mountains, which was not at all possible after a Friday evenings's party. I was totally mellow until Monday morning..... lazy, sleepy, too much relaxed.

Anyway, I just remember when I was a baby my parents used to complain that something that could made other babies sleep, made me hyperactive, and vice versa. Even as an adult local anaesthetic can't paralize my brain, but only my body. I was once 'present' during an operation. I could feel every single cut and tear, while I couldn't move my body. So, maybe my experience of marijuana should not be regarded as 'normal', or worthy to be considered as a reliable result of any scientific experiments?

Thank heavens, I am not allergic to seafood, or to bee stings, or to peanuts -:)

Lol!


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bravewarrior 2 years ago from Central Florida

Oh, how awful to have felt an operation! My goodness, Martie!


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

DDE, good to know there are others like me.... I almost thought I am the only one who have had some bad experiences due to marijuana -:)


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WillStarr 2 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

My own observations (starting way back in the 60's) is that pot often turns intelligent, enthusiastic, and productive people into dull-minded, laid-back, lazy losers.


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Eiddwen 2 years ago from Wales

Very interesting martie I certainly learnt a lot from this great hub which also left much food for thought. Voted up and shared.

Eddy.


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The Frog Prince 2 years ago from Arlington, TX

Pot intensifies not the other way around. Nice Hub Martie.

TFP


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

@ WillStarr, I agree. I saw this with my own eyes - "pot often turns intelligent, enthusiastic, and productive people into dull-minded, laid-back, lazy losers." I even felt it with my own bones during my 2-years 'trial'. I must emphasize that my observation, mentioned in my reply to MsDora, only implies marijuana's, opposed to alcohol's, ability to provoke aggression. Pot-smokers tend to be more peaceful, or should I say marijuana is more than a tranquilizer than alcohol. Personally I felt its tranquilizing effect to be more effective than alcohol. On the other hand, only half a glass of whine put me to sleep. Oh, what do I know? Honestly, I am not a professional in this particular fields. Lol!


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

@ Eiddwen, the more we know the better....

@ Frog, in my case it surely intensifies, but at the same time it paralizes my muscles and bones, turning me into a talking, laughing vegetable of a kind, able to feel and sense, but not able to move much and eventually not able to move at all.

I am only sharing my personal experiences and conclusions....


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Mighty Mom 2 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

The type and potency of the marijuana make a big difference, too. And some people are more susceptible.

The two main types of marijuana -- indica and sativa -- do very different things. It sounds like you got a hold of some strong sativa. No wonder your head exploded. Whereas indica is more of a body relaxer.

I learned this from my son, who was able to get himself off a number and dosage of hardcore PRESCRIBED pain medications by getting a medical marijuana card. When he walked in with his giant trash bag full of pain prescriptions, I guess they recognized he was not just looking to get stoned.

He used cannibis OIL. It is concentrated -- does not create the high but does reach the body's cannabanoid receptors.

But with his many trips to the dispensary, became quite knowledgeable about marijuana.

I'm not taking a position pro or con here.

Just adding a piece of information -- indica and sativa VERY different plants and highs.

see www.patientsmarijuana.org/Sativa_or_Indica.html

Martie -- Some people are extremely susceptible. Sounds like you had the worst of the worst experiences. Like when I tried pot brownies on New Year's Eve in 1986 something. I thought I would not live to see 1987. HORRIBLE, scary!!

MM


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Ruchira 2 years ago from United States

sorry martie you had to go through so much but on a brighter note..you provided useful information to the novice.

sharing it across!


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btrbell 2 years ago from Mesa, AZ

Funny, I was just telling my daughter, I should try pot for pain. I have been on painkillers pretty much 24/7 for tbhe past 3 weeks. Glad to read of your experience first! Up+ my friend! I hope youn are feeling well. Randi


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AliciaC 2 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

This hub is very interesting, Martie, and so are the comments! I've never tried marijuana, but I quite often read about people in the local newspapers who are allowed to use it for medical purposes and find it very useful. On the other hand, it sounds like your experiences were nightmarish! It really seems that the quality and type of marijuana and an individual's specific response to its chemical content need to be taken into account.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Mighty Mom, thank you so much for your very interesting and informative comment and the link. I have added a link to an article that explains the medical value of cannabis without THS . I am going to discuss this with my pharmacist asap.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Ruchira, believe me, I feel quite sorry for myself, and I am eager to find a safe and effective painkiller.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Btrbell, amazing how pain can send us on dangerous routes, searching for relief. Please take note of the link I have added under 'Good News'.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Alicia, by now I am quite sure that the THS ingredient of the plant was the reason of my traumatic experiences. I am going to do some homework, and maybe more experiments..... which I will share, of course....


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Alastar Packer 2 years ago from North Carolina

Martie, you have experienced the plant with some very unusual effects! I admit to partaking of it myself back in the '70s and early '80s ( remember that Dim the Lights! movie serial of mine lol) just so you'll know. Yes, its been what...30 years of abstinence for me. In addition I just finished several months ago the most up to date tome on the plant at well over 500 pages with excellent sources. I'm in awe a bit at your reactions as they are rather different from anything I ever experienced or saw. I wish back then you could have know that M. doesn't kill. We each can react differently of course - sometimes with rather extreme symptoms it's true, but the majority don't, again according to what i saw and have knowledge about. And to finish, there can be no doubt but the plant has a great many benefits in the natural cabbanoids for the human body. Take care friend Martie, I'm sorry you got the downside from the stuff.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi, Alastar, by now I feel quite sorry for myself, missing out on all the benefits of marijuana. Maybe I should have taken only one puff instead of four. Lol! What happened to your 500 pages tome on the plant?


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Alastar Packer 2 years ago from North Carolina

Everyone can react differently, especially their first one or two tries. Oh my, the book was by someone else and very good. Like I wrote its been many decades since I gave it up. Anyway, the plant may well be one of the most beneficial to humans in its natural state for its alkaloids and cabanoids. If I can find the title to that well written and researched book will let you know. Take care, Martie. You really don't need the book as any thorough research on the net will produce the same answers if not compromised by those hoping to keep you and I on pharma meds for life. The plant of course can have its down side with sometimes the side effects you experienced, most unfortunately. Already two states over here have legalized it for personal use to those over 21 btw. All the best precious lady.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, Alastar. The research already done on the cannabis plant shows very little negative results. Turning it into medicine is the obvious thing to do. Next time I will try it as a drink - a pot of tea - or maybe in a browney or salad. I do believe my negative reactions could have been the result of overdosing. Just see what happens when you eat/drink too much of anything. Anyway, at this stage I will even smoke cow manure if it can relieve my pain. Lol! Hopefully I will be okay by the middle of this year after the necessary surgery. Thanks again :)


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Alastar Packer 2 years ago from North Carolina

Much luck and blessings. This plant can do it - especially used as you've mentioned. Martie, you know my desire and empathy is with you all the way.


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always exploring 2 years ago from Southern Illinois

Hi Martie, this is my third attempt to post a comment on your hub, every time i click post it goes back up to the start of your hub, so here goes my fourth attempt. lol...I am truly sorry you are in pain and sorry you had such a horrible experience with marijuana. I am surprised. I know many people who smoke, including me ( 80's and 90's ) It always gave me a calming and wellbeing feeling. That old cliché, " Only deadbeats smoke pot. " Is not true. The people i smoked with were all in the medical field, and unlike tobacco, there was no craving. I do believe you must have gotten some pot laced with some bad stuff. I am glad marijuana is becoming legal in many states. It helps so many cancer patients tolerate food without nausea, plus it helps people who are depressed. The downside is taking something in the lungs, but you now can get it in pill form. Warmest regards and best wishes for a speedy recovery from pain. You always write great and informative hubs. Hugs...


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Love you too, Alastar :)


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Randy Godwin 2 years ago from Southern Georgia

Excellently written as always, Martie. I'm very sorry you had such a bad experience(s) with pot as I have never had such bad effects from the plant. I do agree it affects many people differently as is shown by the different comments from your readers.

I don't about it being a painkiller, but I do know it's a very good cure for nausea during chem0 or any other time. I have glaucoma which I take legal prescribed drops for to help slow down the degeneration of my vision. Even with my insurance they cost over $200 a month to use. 3 little tiny bottles with hardly anything in them because I can't smoke a few joints of pot a day instead.

Yes, medical marijuana should be legal. In fact, if you read the Marijuana Stamp Act it should never been made illegal at all. Big money contrived to put in the fix to make the plant unlawful to possess at all. A sham of the government turned into a shame.

Enjoyed the read as always and never suspected the plant would have such bad effects on other people. Like someone else said, I've known some really brilliant professionals from all walks of life who were, and still are, regular pot smokers. :)


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi, Always, restarting your computer solves many problems. I have met highly intelligent users of M on the farm, professionals who could not dare using it in their homes or backyards or wherever they could be judged and condemned by our extremely conservative society. For them it was merely a stress-reliever par excellence. But I have also met those deadbeats - those zombies floating empty-headed through life without living it, although they could justify their parasitic life style with lies of all sorts and con their beloveds out of their earnings without feeling guilty or ashamed. Some were the off-spring of rich parents, while others were washouts of another kind. But I must add that I've learned the most precious lessons during my stay among the hippies. One of it was to never-ever think that one person is better or worse than another. Born and raised in your shoes, dealing with the issues that were on your path of life, I would have been you, and vice versa. I was a snob before I met those people and I will always be grateful because they have expanded my view on life and humans.

Anyway, I wonder what will my doctor say if I ask him for a prescription of medicinal cannabis? I have no idea! Take care, dear Ruby :)


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Randy, I am so sorry to hear about your glaucoma. The price of health care and medicine is ridiculously high - just another proof that man eats man instead of serving each other with their Godgiven talents. Thank you so much for your supportive comment. 1:00am down here; time to say good night :)


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Nell Rose 2 years ago from England

Hi Martie, yes I can quite believe it, I remember getting stoned out of my tree so to speak trying to get rid of toothache. I ended up stuck to the chair feeling so heavy, my hands were tingling, I thought I was going to have heart attack but the stupid pain in my tooth just got worse! yes I read about that girl over here, it was terrible. My son used to smoke it and I always had panic attacks every time he did, luckily he doesn't now, as he is with his girlfriend. The only other time I took it was when my aunt died, in grief I just smoked a whole one, so bad, I was hallucinating, my son had to take me outside to get air, i saw a hedgehog and thought it was ten times bigger! never ever again, great hub, and really useful, nell


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Dear Nell, you have no idea how relieve I am to know that someone out there have had the same nightmarish experiences than I. I almost thought I was a freak. I must say that I didn't experience the negative side of M while I was living among the hippies, and, obviously, because I took it slowly and knew my limits. So, the first and last time must have been bad because I totally misjudged the power of those crackling leaves and seed. Lol! Oh my gosh, seeing a giant hedgehog must have been scary. Definitely you have had too much, Nell. Hahaha!


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tillsontitan 2 years ago from New York

Wow Martie. First of all, this is such an honest and open hub and I see its brought out so many others' honesty as well.

My first time left me laughing, hungry and paranoid as hell! I have to say I totally agree with Brave Warrior about the heightening of feelings.

It would seem our body is not always your friend. I was taking Chantix to stop smoking and wound up with a rash from head to toe accompanied by hives all over my body. I was on Prednisone for three weeks to stop the itching and get rid of the mess. Who knows what our bodies are going to react to.

I truly hope you find something to manage your pain dear one. I can't imagine living with it day in and day out.

Voted this up, useful, and very interesting.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Tillsontitan, and here I was thinking that I was the only one who had tested the effect of M on my precious system. Lol! Maybe I boasted too much in the past about being healthy and pain-free, or maybe I haven't shown enough empathy and patience to people in pain, maybe this stage of my life is but only another school where I am supposed to learn something I am going to need in the future. Whatever, Mary, I am trying my best to keep mind over matter. Thanks for sharing :)


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always exploring 2 years ago from Southern Illinois

Martie, i came back to tell you that i love your picture on Cosmoplitan! Clever girl...

Pain go away

My special wish

for you today

Hugs...


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Always, I had some fun with that one. Lol! I used PhotoMania. Very easy....

Thanks for your special wish :)


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mckbirdbks 2 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

Marijuana? Never heard of it. But then again, there is that whole amnesia decade thing.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Hahaha, mck!!! ROFL ... and now I can't remember what I wanted to tell you..... :))) Something about amnesia.... Mmm.... lmao!


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Jackie Lynnley 2 years ago from The Beautiful South

I hate to say I hope it gets legal everywhere but I do. I think pot smokers have no idea how stupid they look and all in a circle sucking the same joint, but well, that's all beside the point, lol. Legalizing will make sure it is laced with nothing (I assume) and it will put many dealers out of business which might clean this country up very much. The worst I have seen is someone living for the next joint, life would be nothing without it; they think. It is their reason for living and I find that so sad. I would hope doctors and nurses would be banned from it...after all; until they retire at least.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Jackie, being addicted to marijuana must be awful. I can't imagine living with a cured brain all the time. (Interesting, this double meaning of the word 'cured'!) Imagine driving a car while intoxicated with this substance - or being a patient at the mercy of intoxicated doctors and nurses!! Occasional use has its pros and cons, but even when it is legalized the hand of the law will have to keep users from destroying themselves and others. I can clearly see it as medicine, but only in a purified form. Maybe I will try it again as a painkiller, but then only half of the previous dose. Oh, really, I need an effective pain killer!


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AudreyHowitt 2 years ago from California

Interesting article Martie--but it sounds as though you have had unpleasant experiences with it--I know that in many cancer and AIDs patients it helps stimulate appetite---I am one of those who feel it is less dangerous than alcohol in many respects--best to you!


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DzyMsLizzy 2 years ago from Oakley, CA

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It sounds as though you ended up with some other ingredients, even if those were accidental inclusions.

As to the rest, I'm not sure where you're getting your statistical information, but it certainly runs counter to my own research. In point of fact:

1) There have been NO deaths directly attributable to Cannabis alone--deaths where Cannabis is involved also have another contributing factor, such as alcohol.

2) You cannot "overdose" on Cannabis in the same way as you can with legal narcotics

3) Accounts such as the headlines you mentioned are generally sensationalist tabloids, not concerned with fact finding

4) The compound in Cannabis that gets you "high" is THC (not "THS"), and no, that is not a painkiller.

5) The compounds in Cannabis that can be effective medicinally are known as 'CBDs,' and are effective (with individual variations) on some pain, and for conditions such as insomnia. (You need to understand the difference, and buy from a reliable source, getting the exact (pure) strain you need.) Casual sources are quite likely to have contaminants that can be hazardous, and/or simply be the wrong strain. You don't want a high concentration of THCs for pain relief; you want higher CBDs. That is where knowing what you are doing, and understanding the product comes in.

6) Cannabis and hemp are botanical cousins, but are NOT the same plant. Hemp is useful industrially, for everything from paper-making to clothing and ropes, but you couldn't get "high" on hemp if you wanted to--the THCs are far too low to non-existent.

7) Hemp used to be a common plant in the USA; everyone, including President George Washinton grew it. During WWII, farmers were encouraged to grow it for the war effort.

7) It became "demonized" later on, when the paper industry decided they'd rather use trees. William Randolph Hearst rallied his buddies to instigate the ban.

Those are just a few key points. If you feel so inclined, you can read my in-depth article on Medical Marijuana. And don't trust government-funded sources of information, for they have a vested interest in keeping this beneficial herb illegal.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Audrey, I, too, believe it is less dangerous than alcohol and also a better stress-reliever. But not for everybody. Best to you, too -))


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Dzy, thank you so much for your informative comment. I feel like adding it to the hub. I will link your hub and correct the error (C instead of S) as soon as I'm at me desktop again. Thanks again!


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fiftyish 2 years ago from UK & Southeast Asian Region

That's a very well written Hub Martie, voted up ;)

Marijuana, just like any mind altering food, beverage, or substance, affects different people in different ways. Additionally, some foods, beverages, or substances can enhance the health and wellbeing of the user, but can show adverse side effects and pose health risks in others.

I tried Marijuana in my younger days, and just like you, I couldn't move. With me, it was my head. It went down onto the top of a table and I just couldn't lift it up for about 45 minutes. Oddly enough, I could move every part of my body from the neck down, but just couldn't lift the head up.

A couple of other times when I tried it I started to laugh, uncontrollably, and as funny as that might sound, I was gasping for breath – literally – and that was scary.

So, my experience is that Marijuana can be harmful to some, and this is why I personally think it should be regulated as best it can.

Andy Aitch


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Fiftyish, it seems to me you and I are in the same boat, although I remember not being able to move my entire body except one of my fingers. As in everything in life every individual has its own boundaries to be identified and respected. Even the merest substance can have a negative effect on us when we don't pay attention to our body's ability to tolerate it. I bet your laugher was highly contagious.... I am laughing while seeing you with the eye of my mind gasping for breath.... How scary - to not even be able to identify danger while one is under the influence of cannabis, and sadly this is the cause of many tragedies. Thanks for your generous comment :)


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LeisureLife 2 years ago from USA

It affects everyone differently


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, Leisure. I believe this is the case with everything, and that is why I find it so difficult to believe anything that was not properly tested by unbiased scientists. And even then I will always keep in mind that exceptions is the order of the day....


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Nellieanna 2 years ago from TEXAS

I guess I simply missed the drug scene. It wasn’t around, at least not in ‘decent’ places, when I was growing up and getting on with my life. But the one called alcohol was present/ When I got drunk at 12, (cleaning up the Christmas eggnog which my parents had served, though our house was usually free of alcohol) I decided I didn’t EVER again want to lose consciousness deliberately. I didn’t touch alcohol again till I was in my 40s and then, only with great restraint & moderation. The specter of not being able to think clearly or operate my own body was & is enough to keep me sober! So a bad experience early-on was a good lesson for the rest of my life.

Overall, in fact, I agree so with your commenter, Wilderness, that the fewer chemicals I can put into my body, the better off I am. Disturbing the nature of things inevitably seems to set up as many or more distresses than it supposedly cures, and that goes for habitats, ecologies, and the human (or any) body. The natural powers of a healthy body to first, as he mentioned, evolve itself - (and that, from a single cell!) - and then to maintain and heal itself are so powerful, yet so underestimated.

People seek chemical relief so quickly, though, that the body hasn’t a chance and probably forgets how to handle external and internal unbalances. It’s amazing how effectively it can work when allowed to.

Anyway, my dear darling cyber daughter, I’m glad you learned not to rely on that chemical. I don’t want you to be in pain and I hope you are doing better without the chemical. I feel sure you’ve made a wise decision. At some point, one must just decide on a direction and if it is far out-of-hand already, it probably won’t be easy. (Perhaps hypnosis would get your body in gear to help itself?) But I suppose that once the body has become far removed from its natural health, other means of relief and remedy may simply become necessary. I like to think I’m a pretty good example of staying healthy without all that, being 82 and taking no medicines and able to fully care for myself. But I don’t purport to be the arbiter of what others do or ‘take’. I admit that I would prefer, for their sakes, that people cultivate health within themselves, though. But with all the drugs, legal and otherwise, thrust at them from the crib on, it is not a very encouraging prospect. But it's never too late. I shudder to think what my life could have been like, had the experience at 12 not made a strong impression on me. By the way, I tried smoking (tobacco) about the same year and was also turned off that horrible path after the one try! The unadulterated body has wisdom if one just heeds it!


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midget38 2 years ago from Singapore

Thanks for a very frank sharing, Martie. It's an absolute no indeed.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Nellieanna, my dearest mother in cyber space, I was away on holiday since March 16. Although I did share some pictures on Facebook and followed news updates about the missing plane, I stayed off-line, and now so happy to be back and read your lovely comment.

Fortunately, since I entered adulthood my brain (common sense) is always in control, even when and while I use myself as a guinea-pig during my quests for knowledge and wisdom..... and nowadays in quest for a natural pain killer. I don’t trust chemicals, but I also know that herbs, too, can be dangerous. I am, however, obliged to take NSAID’s, but their pain-killing ingredients are totally insufficient.

A week ago I gave marijuana another try – I chewed and swallowed a quarter of a teaspoon, and lo and behold it killed my pain for a couple of hours and the only side-effect was a little drowsiness. So, until surgery solves my problem, I may very well chew it again, but only when I reach the end of my natural pain-barrier, which is quite high. (I chew it because I am too lazy to get it in an inhalable form and I can’t see myself puffing on a pipe. Lol!)

But must confess: Experimenting with tobacco while I was a teenager awakened and empowered the nicotine addict in me. This is quite an interesting story: What made me smoke, when/why did the urge to smoke took control over me, how did I eventually become addicted to nicotine. I might as well write a hub about it. It is one of those weird operations of the psyche. I can only thank my lucky stars I don’t also host an alcoholic in my psyche. But honestly, having Mr. Nicotine as a personal despot in my life is more than enough for me to cope with. I am extremely cautious when it comes to any other addictive substance, as I enjoy reality with all its ups and downs too much to waste any time in an unconscious state.

Thanks so much for your powerful comment, Nellieanna. You always reinforce my own principles and encourage me to control my bad habits the best I possibly can.

Lots of love and admiration from my heart to yours.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi midget, frankness is one of my trademarks, and not always in my favour. Nevertheless, rather be frank - and a true advocate - than a con-artist benefiting from lies, is my motto since I can remember. Thanks for the visit :)


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Nellieanna 2 years ago from TEXAS

Again, my apologies for my tardiness. Awesome (or awful) things have been keeping me limited in my online activities. And speaking of addictions, HP is the most addictive for me, and where I can write to my heart's content in so many ways. No way to just check "Like" to acknowledge a comment, either. I'm glad there is not. Having the real opportunity to make contact and to respond to contact is among the things I prize most about HP, and it is something greatly lacking or limited elsewhere online and even more, sometimes, IRL.

Anyway, I completely understand your position with the pain. We are similar in being able to tolerate quite a bit and unwilling to dull our minds with chemicals, whether for pleasure or medicinally. Your statement “. . I am extremely cautious when it comes to any .. . . addictive substance, as I enjoy reality with all its ups and downs too much to waste any time in an unconscious state. . . . ” could have been made by me, in fact. I truly hate to be ‘out of it’ when I’m up and about. Fortunately, I’ve learned to give myself over to healthy sleep, though at times, it seems, reluctantly! When I do lie down, though, I can ‘let go’ and sleep, and with very good quality sleep, of any duration. It’s one of my ‘aces in the hole’ for health and longevity. I can recommend cultivating that skill, which is one the mind can master. I went through a semester at college when I was unable to ‘turn it off’ and realized I had to take myself in hand, so to speak. So many rather everyday habits make such major differences. For instance, now, when the years have been gathering, and most of my contemporaries are finding themselves more and more unable to rise up from sitting without clutching support and even using canes, I make it a practice to make my legs do the work. They’re not what they used to be, but they know they have that job to do and I make them do it! haha. I also practice standing and sitting ‘tall’, so the ugly ‘widow’s hump’ won’t get a start. I strengthen balance off and on by standing on one leg at a time. I’m sure it’s helped me catch myself from falling when I surely would have otherwise. These are just a few little everyday ‘differences’ one can make if one disciplines oneself and cultivates a few simple habits as one notices (preferably before!) the tendency to let things ‘slip’. Fingers, joints, all those vulnerable areas are all less efficient, but I insist they function as well as possible. I’ve been a bit concerned that lately, I’m noticing the strong hand muscles in my thumbs and little fingers are losing mass since I seem to play the piano so seldom. I thought that typing would do the same job, but perhaps not. So, I can’t let myself off so easily. I must get back to the musical keyboard!!

It’s never too soon or too late to develop the healthiest habits one can. Of course, it’s equally vital to have fun and reward oneself, too! haha. As George liked to say, ‘In moderation”. I confess that moderation is almost a ‘downer’ for me, but I’m finding that less gets the job done. haha. Seems that my own preferences for being alert and feeling good outweigh my impulses to eat the whole carton of gelato! hehe. Sometimes, though, it seems simpler to just forgo the whole thing. I am somewhat addictive and compulsive. My ‘visual’ mind even pictures me eating it all. hehe. So I try to tell it that is the best it gets - visualizing it!

The mind is such a creator, though. It can do amazing things if it gets the orders and ‘go-ahead’ to. But it does require a good master, and the tricky part is that the master is the same as the slave, just at a different level and consciousness. One must encourage the one sometimes more than allowing the other to take over.

Much love to you as your season is in change. It’s a lovely one here, with everything greening up and feeling nice. But it IS Texas and is forecast to metamorph into more storms and stuff between the idyllic days, till they all turn H-O-T. Oh, well. So be it. Right? Hugs.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Nellieanna – Sorry you had to wait 23 hours for my reply. Reality seems to be a hungry monster down here as well, allowing me very little time during the day to spend online. As always I agree wholeheartedly with your entire comment. I am terribly lazy when it comes to physical exercises and I am already experiencing the consequences. But my laziness is not the only reason. By the time I am done with my daily chores – mostly brain-activity - I am totally exhausted. We are expecting a cold winter (-2C at daybreak and about 17C at midday.) Of course, this is not cold comparing to the winters of northern countries.

Thanks for your lovely comment, Nellieanna :) I know I don’t have to say it, but I am saying it in any way: Take good care of yourself.


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KoffeeKlatch Gals 2 years ago from Sunny Florida

Awesome hub. I never thought too much about weather or not pot helped with pain. I just assumed that there have been studies done and it was proved to do so. Now I find myself questioning the actual results of pot when being used for pain. I am in pain everyday, so far I haven't tried pot to help with it. I am now leery of trying it. Thanks for a wonderful and informative article. Up and awesome.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

KoffeeKlatch, I am so sorry to hear that you, too, are in pain every day. This is truly a soul-draining situation. I prefer painkillers that don't intoxicate my mind... If only I could find it.... :(


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Pamela Kinnaird W 2 years ago from Maui and Arizona

The effects of marijuana sound just awful. I see all the dissenting votes on this, but lots of good feelings for you. So glad.

Marijuana has been proven to be a forerunner in some instances in the cause of schizophrenia. Like you and your terrible ordeal with the pain which wasn't blocked and indeed made worse by the marijuana, marijuana can effect some people in strange ways. Some people's minds are put into a weakened state by the use of marijuana -- and especially if it is used repeatedly. Other people seem to be just fine (as long as they don't attempt driving or something that could put someone else in danger.)

Voting up and across.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Pamela, thank you so much for your profound comment. Sadly we can never know what the effect of any substance will be; what could be fatal for one could save another's life. So, we have no choice but to try what seems to work for others, and then keep going with what works for us. Unfortunately M doesn't kill my pain. To the contrary..... But maybe it may one day cure another ailment, so let me rather not be narrow-minded and hypocritical :)


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vocalcoach 2 years ago from Nashville Tn.

Hello dear Martie,

A fantastic hub! No one can 'tell it like it is' like you can and I love you for it. Speaking of pain, I'm having a fair amount so forgive me if I cut this short. Just know that you are loved and admired by yours truly along with countless others.

Hugs and happy moments - Audrey


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Vellur 2 years ago from Dubai

Interesting and informative read. Have learned a lot about marijuana. Nowadays it is being touted as a medicinal cure, but after reading your hub I have my doubts. Thank you for sharing this.


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mary615 2 years ago from Florida

Here in Florida, we will vote for the legalization of Marijuana Nov. 4th. I do have friends who rely on M. to help them get trough the pain of cancer.

I licked the bowl after my son-in-law made chocolate chip cookies (and included M. in his recipe. I couldn't taste it at all, but within an hour, my heart was racing, I thought I was having a heart attack. My tongue was thick, and it was difficult to speak. I read that M. helps even children who have seizures.

I enjoyed reading your Hub, and I read ALL the interesting comments. Voted UP, etc. and will post on my FB page since this subject is very timely for us voters.


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Lady Guinevere 2 years ago from West Virginia

Well I read this and most of the comments and am on the fence with this. I had a friend who died years ago and he took M for his pain too. He never said what he felt like when taking this stuff. I know, from working at a concert center years ago, that the smell of that stuff made me sick to my stomach.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Dear Vocalcoach, Vellur, Mary, Lady G, thank you so much for your profound comments. Let me repeat my reply to Mary on FB and add even more -

Thanks for sharing this, Mary. I've given it yet another try to again it made my nervous system even more sensitive, emphasising the very cores of all my senses. Instead of 'killing' pain and feelings, it even aroused what I thought was dead, and especially my appetite and courage to speak my mind to hell with the consequences.

But I must say, it got me so high that I could bear the pain, as if I was only a spectator, analyzing myself, feeling myself objectively until I finally fell into a deep sleep.... To awakened the next day with a nasty hangover that lasted the entire day. I can't live in this kind of foggy world. I simply need a pain killer, not a drug that prevent me from being my sober self. This foggy state of being will, of course, be a welcome option one day when I have no more responsibilities or goals to achieve.

I do accept its medicinal value, but knowing too well that we people react differently to everything in this life. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for all.. Each and everyone of us must take responsibility for our own pains and discomforts, and manage it in accordance with our personal idea of quality living.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts :)


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psychicdog.net 2 years ago

My experience with Marijuana (and I smoked for years) is it intensifies whatever effect you are currently experiencing or feeling. It's an exaggerator you could say and great for musicians. Unfortunately, if you have any paranoid or schizophrenic tendencies it will make things worse and your first use should be with safe and trusted people. A huge study in the UK proved, however, that though the rise of it's use has grown over time the proportion of schizophrenia in the population has not increased accordingly which means it does not CAUSE it, (but don't quote me - find out for yourself). If it is made legal it will, in my estimation be a good thing - it's a herb not a drug in some cultures so you should be able to plant your own for personal use. On the other hand, like many of the legal drugs we have, it's overuse to the exclusion of a normal hard-working life would be detrimental but as a supplement it is great. Cheers for an interesting hub Martie. I'm interested to see what happens with the vote to legalize.


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mary615 2 years ago from Florida

I have friends who have children in their 30's and up who smoke Marijuana every single day! They remind me of those people who are functioning alcoholics. These folks get high at night, but yet they get up every morning and go to work and lead productive lives.

I think there is a big difference between those people who use M. just to get high, and those who rely on it for pain control.

The ad now running on our local TV to convince voters to vote for the legalization shows parents with a young child who has seizures. They are begging for the right to give their child M.

Voters here will decide tomorrow, and I have an idea it will be passed. We have a lot of retirees here who would certainly use it.

I am so sorry you are in pain; I wish something could be done for you.


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teaches12345 2 years ago

Thanks for sharing from your experience. I've never tried it, probably will never, I trust your judgement on the effects.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Psychicdog, this is also my experience - "It intensifies whatever effect you are currently experiencing or feeling." On the other hand, what I really like about it - since I have discovered my limits - is its ability to make me laugh my heart out about the merest, and to make me care less, actually nothing, about issues that upset me. When I get the occasional need to let my hair down, I prefer marijuana above alcohol.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Mary, to dope oneself every single day with marijuana falls most certainly in the same category as any other addiction. The body get used to it and then one needs more and more to get the acquired satisfaction. Too much of anything is not healthy. I am honestly completely fed-up with my pain, but still manage to keep mind over matter. Fortunately my life is filled with too many responsibilities and exiting adventures - I just don't get the time to give power to my pain; I manage to stay on top of it. Tests, inter alia a MRI, to determine the source is now scheduled for 17 November.


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MartieCoetser 2 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Teaches, I feel the same about drugs in general. Although I am adventurous, I will most certainly not try drugs like LSD, heroin, etc.


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colorfulone 22 months ago from Minnesota

I am sorry to read about the great pain you experienced, and what happened after using pot to relieve pain. As others have said, you must have gotten some that was laced with something else that was very bad for you. There are too many case studies to think otherwise. Or, you are just very sensitive to pot, while most people are not.

I hope your pain is manageable, and have quality of life.


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MartieCoetser 22 months ago from South Africa Author

Hi colorfulone, apparently, according to the most recent diagnosis, the cause of my pain is Ischiogluteal Bursitis. I have just commenced prolotherapy. I will soon write about this. I keep reminding myself that millions of people are suffering pain, and many have no hope surviving it. Thanks for your encouraging comment :)


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colorfulone 22 months ago from Minnesota

Martie, I will be hoping that the prolotherapy will be an answer to decrease your pain.

I live with chronic pain since a serious car accident several years ago. So, I truly do understand and am able to share how others feel through suffering.

I hope one day you will be pain free!


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MartieCoetser 22 months ago from South Africa Author

Hi colorfulone, although I don't want any others to live in pain, it is good to know that I am not the only one sailing in the pain boat. I am also counting my blessing each and every day, as there are millions suffering more pain than I. Life seems to be the epitome of sadism. It doesn't allow anyone to experience this awesome universe without having one or more thorns in their flesh.


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poetryman6969 22 months ago

From the comments it looks like the jury is still out on this one. I think I would only try it..after the last resort.


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MartieCoetser 22 months ago from South Africa Author

Hi poetryman! I will not argue about the value of cannabis. I can but only say that I have tried it more than once and it did not kill my pain, which seems to be instigated by osteoarthritis and some of its consequences. It did, however, tempt my appetite :)


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Nadine May 19 months ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Wow Thanks for sharing your experience with taking Marijuana. I've never tried it and have no intent to do so. You have also attracted very interesting comments with this hub. Voted up!


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MartieCoetser 19 months ago from South Africa Author

Dear Nadine, I do believe medical science is busy to change this addictive plant into useful and effective medicine. Sadly, it didn't kill my pain. If it did, I would have taken it without any qualms. Thanks for stopping by :)

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