Pain and swelling of legs could be a symptom of Chronic Venous Insufficiency

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My readers will remember my hub Craving Tomatoes (Tomatophagia), and my conclusion that the craving was the result of a Kalium (Potassium) deficiency.

To refresh our memory: Potassium is the chemical element with the symbol K(Kalium), responsible for the proper function of muscles and nerves. It also keeps the electrolyte and acid-base in the body balanced. Most important, it regulates blood pressure.

Concentrated Kalium is also the substance applied by Dr. Jack Kevorkian, the infamous Dr. Death, in his practice of euthanasia, as it is considered the most effective and fast acting neutralizer of the electrical conduction of the heart, inducing immediate heart failure. Concentrated potassium chloride (Kalium chloride) is also used as the last of the lethal injections in the execution of criminals because it stops the heart in just a few minutes.

My readers will remember my complaints ~

  • My legs are irritating the living daylight out of me. To describe: A burning, itching pain, at its best a dull ache, and a feeling of pressure and heaviness.”
  • “The overdose tomatoes did relieve some kind of a bodily disorder I suffer for the past two-three months, something causing uncomfortable and painful swelling of my legs… The swelling is more like inflammation, perhaps of the muscles and I even suspect of the veins, if that is possible. I manage to control the condition by walking, dancing, doing exercises, and standing from time to time instead of sitting. Being horizontal on the bed seems to bring the best relieve.”

  • “… strange, the visual swelling is only in the bending behind my knees and between thigh and body where the veins bend, the rest of the swelling seems to be inside the legs, as if the vesel or muscles or nerves or veins or bones or whatever are inflamed.”

Amy Becherer emphasizes the cause of my craving for tomatoes ~ “.... I have been helping my 89-year old, ex mother-in-law... Her doctor put her on a diuretic for swelling in her lower legs and feet. The diuretic caused her to become potassium deficient....”

Becky Katz confirmed: “..... I suffer a potassium deficiency due to diuretics and blood pressure pills - they also rob calcium from your body. I get leg cramps and sore muscles when I am low on potassium.”

Then Amy Becherer came forward with a possible cause for the swelling of my legs: “.... I hope you are not developing lymphedema…”

My reply: “I've checked lymphedema, but don't relate. I have found, however, another clue - Venous Insufficiency?”

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What about veins and their insufficiency?

After a second visit to my doctor and some expensive blood tests, venous insufficiency was indeed diagnosed as an ailment I will have to cope with for the rest of my life. I am not yet sure whether my condition is Chronic Venous Insufficiency or Chronic Venous Hypertension.

What the heck does this mean in any case, was of course the question that sent me straight to my dearest Uncle Google…

I would like to share with my readers a brief summary of two highly recommended articles -

Venous Hypertension

In detail described at by Irene Anderson, Senior Lecturer in Tissue Viability, University of Hertfordshire ~


“... The venous system is made up of a deep system and a superficial system, which are joined by perforator (joining) veins. Deep veins are held within the muscle fascia of the leg while superficial veins are less supported and are nearer the surface of the leg. All veins in the leg have valves to ensure that venous blood travels back to the heart or from the superficial veins back to the deep veins via the perforators. These valves are particularly important in the lower leg as the blood needs to flow upwards a considerable distance to the heart especially if standing upright. If the valves do not work in the perforator veins, blood is pushed out into superficial veins, increasing the pressure in these vessels….

Venous blood returns to the heart mainly via the deep veins, which are bigger and stronger than the superficial veins, and there are three key mechanisms by which this blood flow is encouraged: Gravity, breathing and the calf-muscle pump.

Being born with clubfeet, and although it had been rectified, my calf muscles never developed in full. Inder-developed calf-muscles pumps therefore seem to be the ‘devil’ behind my ailment ~

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“The calf-muscle pump ~ When blood is pumped into the arteries by the heart, it is pushed forward under high pressure. Only a little of this pressure is left once it has passed through the capillaries into the veins so the action of the muscles provides a pumping action that helps to push the blood up. As the calf muscle contracts, the valves in the deep veins are squeezed and they open to allow the blood to travel upwards. As the calf muscle relaxes the valve closes and creates a negative pressure as the section between valves empties. This negative pressure draws blood from the superficial veins, through the perforators to refill the chamber ready for the next contraction of the calf muscle.

If the valves are incompetent they will allow backflow (reflux) of venous blood in the deep vein and the volume of blood in the lower leg will increase. This increased load will cause a rise in the pressure on the vein wall and will affect other parts of the venous system. As these veins stretch their valves here will not close properly and the volume of blood — and therefore the venous pressure — will increase. As the valves are unable to prevent backflow of blood, chronic venous hypertension results."

(In detail described by Irene Anderson at

Chronic Venous Insufficiency

During my research I stumbled upon an excellent article in emedicine.medscape by Katherine E Brown (DO; Chief Editor: Vincent Lopez Rowe, M.D., DO Consulting Staff, Department of Surgery, University of California at San Diego.

Two to five percent Americans suffer Chronic Venous Insufficiency (CVI), previously known as postphlebitic syndrome and postthrombotic syndrome.

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The causes of CVI

  • Venous hypertension in diseased veins;
  • The absence of, or damage to, venous valves;
  • A blood clot formed within a blood vessel and remaining attached to its place of origin, known as a thrombus; (Varicose veins rarely cause CVI. They serve as indicators of venous hypertension, the most common reason for CVI);
  • Aging - the venous valves simply lose their efficiency;
  • Deep vein thrombosis (DVT), causing backflow and the increasing of venous pressure. This could make venous valves incompetent;
  • Little activity minimizes the pump action of calf muscles on venous return, causing higher venous pressure. (Keep in mind that I was born with clubfeet and my calf muscles are not properly developed);
  • Obesity;
  • Standing or sitting for long periods. This increases venous pressure in dependent lower extremities;
  • Smoking.

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CVI can lead to ~

  • Poor cosmesis,
  • Leg edema: Damage done to capillary basement membranes by white blood cells results in leg edema. Decreased oxygen delivery to tissues results in local hypoxia; swelling is the body’s strong drive to correct the oxygen deficiency. The result is inflammation and tissue loss.
  • Chronic life-threatening infections of the lower extremities.
  • Chronic venous stasis ulcers.
  • According to the article pain, especially after walking, is a hallmark of the disease, though in my case walking and exercises relieve my pain and uncomfortableness.
  • CVI causes lipodermatosclerosis (characteristic changes) to the skin of the lower extremities, which lead to eventual skin ulceration.
  • Thrombosis.

Clinical manifestations include the following:

  • Leg edema (swelling);
  • Lipodermatosclerosis (skin changes).
  • Perforator veins bulging into subcutaneous tissue.

Treatment ~


  • Leg elevation – (When sitting, legs should be above the thighs. Supine, the legs should be above the level of the heart.)
  • Compression stockings – these produce graded pressures from the foot upwards and decrease edema and minimize venous hypertension.
  • Unna boots - rolled bandages that contain a combination of calamine lotion, glycerin, zinc oxide, and gelatin.
  • Injection sclerotherapy - directly into veins

Surgical Therapy - reserved for those with discomfort or ulcers refractory to medical management:

  • Vein ligation - the treatment of choice.
  • Subfascial endoscopic perforator surgery (SEPS).

(In detail explained by Katherine E Brown at emedicine.medscape)

Another interesting article about Chronic Venous Insufficiency is available at

If I knew all this years ago, I would have made an effort to develop proper calf muscles. I would have been also more concerned about my daily pottasium/kalium intake. 2000 mg intake per day is recommended by many nutritionists, though the Institute of Medicine 2004 guidelines specified 4000mg per day.

Fruit and vegetables rich in potassium/Kalium ~

(in brackets = mg)

  • One papaya (781).
  • One cup of prune juice (707).
  • One cup of tomato juice (535)
  • One baked sweet potato, with skin (508).
  • One tablespoon of molasses (498).
  • One cup of cubed cantaloupe (494)
  • One small banana (467).
  • Diced honeydew melon (461).
  • One-half of a medium avocado (450).
  • One-half of a medium potato, with skin (422).
  • One large chopped or sliced tomato (400).
  • One-half cup of cooked pinto beans (400)

The rest of the list is available @

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AliciaC 4 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

I'm glad that you're getting closer to a definite diagnosis for your leg problems, Martie. It must be very frustrating trying to find the exact cause of the problems and the best treatments, but it sounds like the situation is getting a bit better. Good luck!

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, AliciaC. To find the best treatment, or at least an effective treatment, is currently quite a challenge to meet. I hope this hub will inspire many suggestions from readers. Take care! I'll see you soon in your corner. Off to bed now @ 2:00am :))

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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

This is really fantastic, in depth reasearch! Excellent article - I love the way you added the continuation of the conversations of Amy and Becky Katz! The great photos really helped me understand it better as I saw all those viens - didn't realize we had so many in the legs!

When I was a tech - one of the things we were ordered to report was edema in the legs...I always meant to ask why - but I never did learn why. I am betting this article has lots to do with it:)

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Becky Katz 4 years ago from Hereford, AZ

I am glad you are getting closer to a diagnosis. Glad I could help you narrow it down. I had to stand in a job not too many years ago and have discoloration in the skin on my feet. They could not understand why we would complain about standing 10-12 hours a day. They said we worked faster, and would not provide us a stool. Too bad the company closed, I would send them this article.

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kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Oh, Martie, I did not not about the full picture. The club feet came as a total surprise to me. How many things can go wrong with a human body both physically and mentally and yet there is always some room for adjustment. Somehow we do survive.

It's an unpleasant condition, but it is not a curse, is it?

You know when I first learned about club feet? Only recently - our friend Erik had them - and he walks "funny". I had nightmares about him and I even saw him once on a bus praying he would not spot me.

I am digressing. I wish you feel better. I see you as a pillar of strength, really, medical conditions or not.

Remember the hub Ian wrote about RLS (restless leg syndrome)? We laughed, we laughed about Restless Hand Syndrome, Restless Brain Syndrome and Restless Foreplay Syndrome and TMJ.... but, honestly, real RLS bothered me the last time maybe in 2002 - 2003. I did not think it would come back. It did. It is such a bugger. Now I see a close correlation between RLS and stress. Oh, well...

Are you feeling OK?

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femmeflashpoint 4 years ago


Duhhhh ..... NOWWWW I remember what this is, lol!!!!

I had blonde-brain-cramp when I was asked earlier on another hub.

You've done a far superior job than I could have done in explaining it, lol.

Excellent work!


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Vinaya Ghimire 4 years ago from Nepal

My mother has this problem, and she has been doing all sorts of things to overcome pain. I was not aware that this is linked to potassium deficiency. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

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A.A. Zavala 4 years ago from Texas

A painful condition! I had a minor calf tear and tore a ligament on he bottom of my heel. It is HELL in the mornings. Hope you feel better!

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

RealHousewife, I guess the main reason why edema has to be reported, is because it is a warning of the possible formation of blood clots and also of the possible disfunction of the heart and/or kidneys. But this is only my logic conclusion; I don't have the qualifications needed to swear by it. Thanks for your inspiring and interesting comment :))

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Becky, thanks to Google we can easily find answers for our questions, though there are still so many questions without true reliable answers. I appreciate your support and participation tremendously. Take care!

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Ardie 4 years ago from Neverland

My mother in law deals with this and she thinks it is because she stands on a hard tile floor all day for work (she's a baker). I wonder if a change in diet would help her!! Thanks for this Martie, I can't wait to talk to her tonight :)

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

kallini2010 – I walk normal, but I think this would not have been possible if only one foot was clubbed. I am lucky, my feet were successfully rectified. I don’t have pretty feet and beautiful well-developed calves, but I’ve never developed any (inferior) complex about this. I have also learned how to disguise them by emphasizing my better-looking parts…. (He-he)… Strange, the complexes I did develop (and eventually conquered) were totally unjustified.

Your reaction towards Erik is natural and rooted in human’s (and even in animal’s) instinctive tendency to select the best of the best to ensure survival, including the survival of one’s own genes. Interesting!

Svetlana, we tend to believe that a ‘pillar of strength’ should have a strong and ‘perfect’ body, and this, too, is rooted in our primordial urge to survive. However, evolution lifted humans to a phase where character and personality are more important than bodies, at least for the best part of their lives on this planet. Check

History – many of those who had done something worthwhile for the human race had one or the other physical and even mental disability. (A topic for a hub.)

I am okay in spite of the irritating, uncomfortable pain. I am still testing medicine available for the condition – until now nothing seems to be effective. According to my doctor the condition is incurable; we can but only treat the symptoms and try to prevent complications such as thrombosis.

But I must add, while I am moving – dancing, walking, and doing exercises (of all sorts) - I have no pain.

According to my logic mind Restless Legs, too, must be the result of vein insufficiency to a certain extend. I am going to read that hub of yours again.

Thank you so much for your concern, Svetlana. It is good to know I have friends who care about me. It strengthens my determination to please them (and myself) by finding effective treatment.

C U again soon :)

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

femmeflashpoin - It is always good to see you in my corner. I am so glad I have managed to refresh your memory. They say deep down we actually know everything, we just need somebody to pull it to the surface. Thank you for your inspiring comment :)

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always exploring 4 years ago from Southern Illinois

Martie, You wrote an excellent article. I felt like i was back in anatomy class 101. I am not kidding, your research is top-notch. I am glad you have found the cause for your discomfort. I am not having any problems, but i know i sit way too much at this computer. I have started getting up more. I do keep my legs elevated and now that it is warm, i will ride my bike more. I almost forgot what my treadmill looks like. ( Shame on me ) Thank you again..Lots of hugs...

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Vinaya, that word 'trying'.... Trying this and trying that, all sorts of things to overcome a specific pain - Is this not simply 'living our lives on this planet'? I hope your mother soon manage to do the right thing, so that you can tell us what it is :) Thank you so much for your comment.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Torn calve muscles and ligaments are horrible pains of a different kind; it must be almost unbearable on the bottom of one's heel. I hope yours have healed by now. Sadly most of our injuries, although they seem to heal, eventually become irritable and even unbearable pains and ailments. Take care, and thank you so much for your continues support.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Ardie, changing one's diet to the better will always improve our body's ability to fight viruses and bacteria; it will also slow down the aging process. Unfortunately your mother-in-law most probably suffers the same condition as I - the tile floor is not to blame, but simply gravity. One of the reasons why shoes with high(er) heels are recommended for people who have to work standing, is that standing on one's toes strengthen the calf muscles and therefor forces the pumps to work harder. In flat shoes this mechanism becomes lazy and eventually inactive. She should also allow herself more horizontal positions with her feet higher than her heart. (Says I who don't do this myself... Lol!)

Take care, my sweet friend! And remember, prevention is better than cure.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

always exploring - Your comment means a lot to me. I've written this hub all the way with the haunting knowledge that many of my friends in here are qualified nurses and medical practicians, while I am but only a journalist reporting the knowledge they have obtained.

I must get myself a treadmill, as well as a laptop that will enable me to write while I sit on the bed with my legs stretched out. But you know Murphy's Law - before you can do something, you've got to do something else. In this case the something else is generating the needed funds...

Thanks a million for your encouraging comment :))

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kallini2010 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Dear Martie,

I did not think even for a second that your condition would take away something from my image of you. I think it is quite the opposite, your courage and openness only confirm my conviction that you are a pillar of strength.

I almost wrote a long reply (on a piece of paper), but for some reason I feel exhausted. You are right, tons and tons can be written about people who overcame their conditions and maybe due to the struggle became better than those “blessed” with perfect bodies. I cannot complain about my body, I have finally admitted that the nature gave me a wonderful gift and I did not realize that I should be grateful. But even I have “secret” problems and the inferiority complex. I can be open about some issues, but not about some others. That makes me admire you even more and more.

I cannot write everything I wanted to say, but let me say this. Maybe because you so openly share your predicament and your experiences you help someone who does not have your strength. I know of a mother who’s second daughter was born with a cleft palate (it’s not a big deal these days!), but you know what she did? She hanged herself. She was found in time and she lived, she is still alive and even have a grand-grandaughter from that girl… But that episode – always comes back to me to haunt – how life is unpredictable and fragile. I liked that woman with cleft palate very much – she was the funniest woman I ever met. Not the happiest, but the funniest.

And, yes, Martie, of course, I wish you all the best, I wish you feel well, do not even doubt it for a second.

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Becky Katz 4 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Martie, my mother was also born with club feet. In 1936, they were just learning to correct this. Her Dr. immediately slapped casts on both little feet and started the process of fixing her feet while they were still soft boned. You could not tell that her feet were shaped wrong at birth. An extremely advanced Dr. for the times.

She strenghthened her legs by riding horses. She was raised on a ranch and was always riding. She never had problems. Perhaps riding could help you.

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Pamela99 4 years ago from United States

I know this is fairly common and at least you finally know what is causing much of your problem. I hope your legs are improving now. There was very good information in your hub that I think will help a lot of people. Rated up.

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drbj 4 years ago from south Florida

This is a very carefully researched and written article, Martie. You are to be commended for your ability to transfer complicated medical terminology into perspicuous information.

Has your doctor suggested wearing compression stockings -those that rise above the knee? They are often effective in relieving edema and painful symptoms. Please take care of yourself, m'luv.

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SanneL 4 years ago from Sweden

Martie, I'm so sorry to hear that you suffer from this very painful and unpleasant condition. It can be so frustrating to have to live every single day with pain. Unfortunately, this is yet another incurable condition. In fact, I have never heard about this before, until you mentioned it to me a few days back. So I searched on Google and read about CVI.

You are very well informed and it looks like you take all the right precautions to help to lessen the pain, and that's good!

You should definitely get yourself a laptop, so you can sit on the bed with your legs stretched out. That's how I write. On my bed leaning back with my head and shoulders propped up on pillows, otherwise I could not last more than two minutes, before the pain will be too much to bear. So my bed is my office. Lol. At least, I don't have to commute back and forth to work. Haha!!

I know there are no treatment yet, but I truly hope they will find a cure soon. I just hope your improvement will be better in some way, maybe with some kind of exercise. You know, horseback riding is very good for strengthening the calf muscles, and it's such an enjoyable pastime. You should give it a try.

You wrote an excellent article, that will help many others with this condition. Just take care of yourself, and I will keep my fingers crossed that you will feel better soon. Hugs to you my friend,


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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Pamela99 - Coming from you, the best writer about medical issues, I regard this comment of yours as a 'feather in my hat' Thank you so much. Improvement is not yet in sight, but I believe my doctor will come forward with alternative treatment. Take care Pamela, and thank you again :)

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

My dearest drbj, thank you for your much appreciated compliment. Now those stockings... what shall I say? Before I can try it, I'll have to peel a few apples with my Self-Image. I am laughing at myself for being so vain while I am in pain. In situations like this, some sayings make sense, such as 'rather dead than wearing that' and 'over my dead body'. Lol! But I know at the end I will yield... but I will not tell...

Take care, my dear drbj!

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

SanneL, I appreciate your empathy tremendously. I remember reading about your daily struggle with Mister Pain, and ever since then I take off my hat for you for being such a sparkling personality in CyberSpace. Yes, we may not allow our mortal bodies to keep us from being who we really are. I am not my body, I am just captured by it. I've learned how to enjoy and appreciate the good it offers and to ignore the bad as far and hard as I can. I try to hold onto Clippet's advice: "Something that can go wrong by itself, can go right by itself."

Thank you for pimping my hubs all over Facebook. I appreciate your friendship and support with all my heart.

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thebluestar 4 years ago from Northern Ireland

My dear Martie, I am so pleased that you are making headway into finding a solution to your problem. Girl, you have truly suffered with this. I experience similar problems with my legs too, but it is all to do with having diabetes. So at least I can relate to the problem. I hope that with further research you will eventually find an answer and relief for your problem. Your article certainly opened my eyes and as ever is so full of information. Superbly written in your own style. Net:) Shared with my facebook buddies. Voted up and all the way except funny.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Annette, I saw the link in Facebook and I thought you were too sweet and adorable for words. If only the sympathy and empathy we receive from others could relieve our pain.....

I have a date with my doctor this afternoon :))) So maybe I come home with more effective medicine.

I don't want to complain - there are people out there suffering unbearable pain and discomfort. Mine should not even be mentioned. But I must say I hate what I have. It is so-so irritating. So in order to compensate, I am trying harder to do what I like and what brings me pleasure. My believe: 'Cometh the moment, cometh the one I need,' once again has proved itself as worthwhile to hold onto...

I'll see you in a couple of hours in your corner, Annette. Thank you so much for your love and support :))

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PegCole17 4 years ago from Dallas, Texas

Very interesting information. I'll be forwarding this article to my spouse who is suffering these symptoms. We've asked at least 3 doctors for a diagnosis and he is currently getting physical therapy for "lymphedema" although the CT scan showed negative for lymph swelling or blockage. We've been looking for compression stockings and the sources that follow along with the article are helpful. Thank you for this valuable explanation and I hope your condition improves.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi PegCole17 - I am so glad to read that you've found the information in here valuable. I have received some positive news from my doctor today - venous insufficiency does not appear to be the cause of the swelling and pain in my legs, but rather the result of the swelling caused by an infection in the kidneys and bladder. There are millions of reasons why we suffer specific symptoms, and one thing is a fact - doctors are not God. Some of us know more than some of them about some conditions. I really hope the links in here will bring you to the real cause of your husband's pain an discomfort. Thank you for your insightful comment. Take care!

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drbj 4 years ago from south Florida

Not to worry, dear Martie, if you wear the stockings under slacks. No one will know and I promise not to tell . . . for a small fee. You may be wondering if you can also wear them under jeans? Only with difficulty. Heh, heh.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

He-he, thanks drbj... so good to know I have friends who will not tell on me... I think those stockings will be nice to wear in Winter, but I cannot even tolerate jeans in Summer, so I don't know... Let me rather put my hope in my doctor's latest suspicion... (Oh, I must brag (he-he) - He said my legs look too beautiful; he can't SEE any signs of permanent CVH & CVI.) Lol!

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Daisy Mariposa 4 years ago from Orange County (Southern California)


The information you have provided in this article will help a lot of people. Thanks for publishing this well-researched, well-written Hub.

Also, Happy April 15th Birthday.

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Debby Bruck 4 years ago

Time to bookmark. I'll be back later....

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Thank you, Debby!

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Kris Heeter 4 years ago from Indiana

Great article and a very thorough explanation. I found the percentage of women who have it cited to be surprisingly low. I would have expected it to be a bit higher. I've known several women who have had this. Most who finally sought treatment have felt much better. Great hub!

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Daisy! thank you so much for your comment, and for sharing this hub on my birthday :)

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Kris, oh, I wish I could find effective treatment! I am so fed-up with this condition. Thank you for your kind comment.

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marcoujor 4 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

Dear Martie,

Wow, I missed such an important and well-scribed piece that is informative to many of us.

I love the way you thoroughly explored this condition and are trying to do everything in your power to find relief/ solution.

I am sorry that you continue to suffer such pain and discomfort. I will refrain fromn my typical "litany of nagging" as I know you are indeed aware of how to cope as comfortably as possible with this chronic condition.

Voted UP & UABI. Much love, Maria

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Maria, my goodness, I have not noticed that you've missed this one. But really glad you've found it, as you are the one who 'hear' my moans and groans. I am so fed-up with this condition, fed-up with trying all so-called cures without any success. But then, just opening my eyes, I see so many people suffering far more painful chronic ailments, so gratefulness because I am not one of them, keeps my spirit high.

Thanks a lot for the ayoba votes.'...

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marcoujor 4 years ago from Jeffersonville PA


I am filled with AYOBA for YOU...

Love, hugs and snogs,


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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Love you, Maria :}

Smack of a kiss and a breath-taking hug going your way.... :}

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NateB11 4 years ago from California, United States of America

Very good information. I've had swelling in my legs for several years, only recently been able to go to the doctor about it. Good information about the potassium connection and the causes of the condition.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi NateB11 ~ good to know you've found the information in here 'good'. In spite of knowing all the symptoms and possible causes of CVI and also preventing severe swelling and potassium deficiency on a daily basis, the real cause of my CVI is still not diagnosed and the continual nagging pain is driving me crazy. Thank you for your comment. I would like to know more about your condition via e-mail and will contact you as soon as I can.

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epigramman 4 years ago

...well dear Martie I think about your legs all of the time - there I said it - and I hope everyone here at the Hub knows about it too - because yes there is not a chat that goes by between us when I don't ask you how you are feeling - so to come to this hub and to learn more about what you have to endure and put up with - is a very educational experience for me and a very humble one too as I think about you dear friend - I myself deal with some sort of arthritis these days and I try to walk everyday for my writer's walk (lol) around the bay of my lake and deal with it the best way I can on a daily basis - so yes we all have our own crosses to bear don't we - but just know dear Martie, my good friend and esteemed colleague I am sending these pure warm wishes to you and sending good energy also from lake erie time ontario canada 9:28am and big hugs from Tiffy and Gabriel.

And I have received a visit from my mum (my 4th ghost story in 2 years) and she loves to move things around to get my attention. This time she moved a plant from above her old pendulum clock over to above the window and she put an artificial flower in it for good measure.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi, my dear friend, Epi! You actually pulled my tears with this beautiful message of you. Yes, these damn legs irritate the living daylight out of me every day of my life since the end of last year. I will consult a specialist in January, when my medical aid will allow me to do so. (For some reason beyond my comprehension, my GP cannot or don't want to determine the cause of my ailment - he call it normal aging. Some people develop arthritis, hypertension, and so forth, while others develop chronic venous insufficiency. Whatever! I'm so fed-up. Thank you for caring, Epi. I really appreciate your empathy and sympathy. But don't worry too much, hey? This will not prevent me from living and loving ardently and wholeheartedly. (If a tree doesn't fall on me, I'll live till I die...)

Thanks for sharing the good news about your mom. I wish my father could pay me a visit or two. I know I am 'quiet', but believe me, I have too many balls in the air. Just know that I am watching you - as long as you're okay, I'll be okay (or at least NOT upset because you're upset. As you know, it is a fact, we want our friends to be happy, because then we can be happy too.)

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Denise Handlon 4 years ago from North Carolina

Wow! I found this article to be VERY useful and interesting. I've also been experiencing ankle and knee edema and a 'heavy' feeling overall...a friend just mentioned this condition yesterday and this is the second time it is being brought to my attention...time to investigate with my doctor. Thanks! Voted up.

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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa Author

Hi Denise, please share any information you manage to obtain with me. Thank you so much, your comment gave me hope....

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