Pro- Ana, Pro- Mia, Thinspiration , Scary!

  • This is forever. I will do whatever it takes. I want to be thin more than anything, even food”
  • “One day I will be thin enough. Just the bones, no disfiguring flesh. Just the pure clear shape of me, bones. That is what we all are, what we're made up of and everything else is just storage, deposit, waste. Strip it away, use it up”
  • “Food hinders your progress”
  • “How many pounds till I am happy, how many pounds till I get thin? Three more pounds till I am skinny, three more pounds and I win!”
  • “When you coast without eating for a significant period of time, and you are still alive, you begin to scoff at those fools who believe they must eat to live. It is blatantly obvious to you that this is not true”

How scary is this! These are actual quotes from young girls who are anorexic or bulimic and think it is a lifestyle choice rather than a disorder. I had done this post before for my friend who is a plus size model and a discussion on the forum made me think of posting it here.

Pro Ana Pro Mia

Pro Ana is a concept that rejects Anorexia Nervosa as an eating disorder or condition that requires medical intervention. While some Pro Ana Mia sites groups / forums / organizations are for offering support to socially-isolated Anorexics, others attempt to explain Anorexia as a "lifestyle choice" that should be respected by doctors and family.

There are groups or forums which are usually places where crash dieting techniques and recipes are shared, members compete to lose weight or organize group fasting, share how to hide weight loss from parents and/or doctors. While information about maximizing safety of practicing anorexia is shared what is also shared, worryingly is advice on how best to induce vomiting or about how to use laxatives and emetics.

Thinspiration

So what is thinspiration then? It is image or video montages of slim women, often celebrities, who may be anything from naturally slim to emaciated with visibly-protruding bones. Then there is also, reverse thinspiration which may take the form of photographs of fatty food, overweight or obese people intended to induce disgust and motivate further weight loss.

Like I said, really scary!

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bala99 7 years ago from Hyderabad, Telangana, India.

There should be a Medical and Psychological bench mark to determine the basic nutritional parameters and they should be implemented by law. That way even suicide is a matter of personal choice! Dictatorship? Yes! But much needed, in such cases.


molly the LIL dolly 7 years ago

nothimg the matter with your bones showing bones are beuatiful fat is not


karma angel 7 years ago

its so beuatiful bones are beautiful fat is nasty and it jiggles gross


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

These two comments above actually demonstrate the point I am trying to make.


Pooty 7 years ago

That's an unfair statement to make. This is not a 'token suicide', it's simply a choice that some people have made. How is anyone supposed to distinguish between a healthy and unhealthy weight anyway? As a girl I consider a role model said, she was taken to rehab because she was what, 110 pounds. The doctors said they wouldn't release her until she reached 'a healthy 120lbs'. The same night they told her this, the winner of The Biggest Loser (America) was praised and awarded because she lost her weight, quickly and unhealthily, and became a 'healthy 117lbs'.

If you're 150lbs, you're fat. If you're 110-120lbs, you're too skinny. Since you have written on the subject of anorexica, you would've done your research (otherwise you would be a misinformed and unintitled to an opinion on the subject) please tell the world what a healthy weight is, how to to fix the mental scars and what the side effects of ana are. You have in no way mentioned any of the unhealthy or dangerous side effects of fasting, nor the healthy ones (yes, it is actually healthy to fast. The Apostles in the Bible did it, it cleans your system, cures you of many ailments, and helps your mind. That is a scientific fact.)

You haven't mentioned anything other than your own discrimination against the people who have a disease.

"There should be a Medical and Psychological bench mark to determine the basic nutritional parameters and they should be implemented by law." Yes, there are studies that have already been done to show the nutritional needs of the human body. I agree, let us remove all the fast food, the alcohol, ect from the system. Let's monitor absolutly everyone so that no one can be unhealthy. You would never have another donut, beer, French Fry, burger, hotdog- anything. Instead you can live like the anas do and have Celery and Cereal, Fruit and Vegetables, Vitamins. You can drink water like we do, instead of that unhealthy, damaging soft drink. Wouldn't that be fun?

I guess what I'm trying to say is, do some research. Most of the ProAna-Mia sites actually supposrt those in recovery, and never, ever encourage people to 'become' anorexic. Would you really rather your little sister thinking she's alone? Thinking that no one feels how she does? Or your little brother taking laxatives and diet pills without having the information provided on these sites about how dangerous they are? How some affect your heart, liver and kidneys?

Before you accuse do some research, seriously. Try understanding instead of discriminating. We need love and kndness, not blind hatred. If that's what you feel like doing, leave us alone. Because most of the time- we're lovely people who are just sick.


Pooty 7 years ago

Just as an after-thought, how would you feel if you had an eating disorder (which is exactly what Proana sites call it) and the world told you dumb and stupid for having it? Would you just stop, or feel worse and hide in your addiction? Have some respect, it is a mental disease. Would you write about how parents who are informed that their children have Autism should put them into an institution because they are 'stupid' for not speaking, or 'idiots' for not learning the same way you do?


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

Thanks Pooty, for your impassioned comment; I really appreciate the time you have taken to express your feelings. I have actually come acorss several sites that give you 'tips' about how to become anorexic or bulimic, trying to promote these diseases or trying to explain them away as lifestyle choices. THAT is what I condemn.

You make a good point, about healthy at 117 pounds and and unhealthy at 110 pounds. While 110 may be perfectly healthy for one body type and build, it may be disastrous for another. The point I am trying to make is that you have to be healthy given your particular body type, build and metabolism, and not try and achieve what may well be an unhealthy weight (which could be more or less) that is all.

If intersted you could try reading another write up of mine http://hubpages.com/style/Sexy-at-Any-Size-Really to understand what I think.


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bala99 7 years ago from Hyderabad, Telangana, India.

110 - Unhealthy

117 - Healthy

120 - Unhealthy

Even NASA's tolerance bandwidth for rocket launches compare poorly with this weight management parameters.

The emphasis of the hub was on deliberate loss of weight for Modelling or other purpose. The illustration was of such cases. The point was concern for the lasting damage to the girls system.

I think it is exploitation of these wannabes. There is gender discrimination here. Has anyone heard of males to Pro-Ana specs?

As for eating disorders, the very fact that it is a disorder makes it, anomaly and a case for treatment.

As for your query about the standard for weight of people, there is one. It is called BMI or, Body mass index. It is calculated, taking height and weight into consideration. There are corrections for body frame size. Even by that standard, the model in the hub is way below the healthy level.

Reena, Attagirl! Good for you.


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

Thanks Bala, isnt it the most heartening thing that writing can spark off debate or thought or even change, even of the minutest kind?


Pooty 7 years ago

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First, I would like to address this comment 'I have actually come across several sites that give you 'tips' about how to become anorexic or bulimic, trying to promote these diseases or trying to explain them away as lifestyle choices. THAT is what I condemn.' You will often find on either the front page of the site, or even the very page the tips are on a disclaimer warning against ED (Eating Disorders). They often have useful tips for those already with the disease (e.g., if you purge (throw up), make sure not to brush your teeth within an hour otherwise the enamel in your teeth wears off. Don't use diet pills as they absorb the water in your body, as do laxatives. Drink a lot of water, etc.) Also, anorexia and bulimia are lifestyle choices, so is binge drinking, smoking pot, etc. What you have to understand is that condemning the ED is condemning the person. You can't help anyone with an ED, we can only help ourselves.

Secondly, beauty is perception. Some people suit weight, others don't. I don't, but plus-size models do. As long as you’re healthy, that's all that matters. Ana's live extraordinarily healthy lives. We research, we try to be healthy- we just want to be thin. As for metabolisms, you can speed yours up in an attempt to lose weight.

The shape and size of your body always counts, which is people choose different goal weights. I want to be 110lbs, then perhaps 90.I is about 5'2", 5'3"- that's healthy. I have a classic hour glass shape though, where my hipbones are perfectly inline with my shoulders. I suit the mold of 'slim'.

In response to Bala, your BMI is inaccurate. Arnold Schwartanegger's (spelling?) BMI in his heyday would have classed him as well into the overweight. If you have muscle, any muscle, it is inaccurate. My mother is five foot and weighs more than she looks. She works on a stud, running up hills all day and carry large buckets of water. Her BMI states she's overweight- does that mean she is?

Ana's spend A lot of time working out. What's to say we're not muscle-y? Show me an accurate way to calculate weight. And as for your questions about males and Ana, I might have misunderstood the question but here is the answer. Men can also be anorexic. The weight they want to become is a deeply personal choice. They could be 7foot and want to weight 100lbs.

No one I have conversed with who is Pro-Ana has ever, ever recruited any 'non-anas'. In fact, it is discouraged. What you don't understand is that we both love and hate our disease. We adore and detest Ana.

I'm not trying to change anyones opinions, just showing the other end of the conversation. Our end is often ignored, re-worded and abused.


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

Pooty, how old are you? You sound very young. On the one hand you refer to 'eating disorders' and call your condition a 'disease' and how others should be sympathising with you, and on the other hand you call it a life style choice.

If you are anorexic, it is a disorder (look up the dictionary meaning it means something is WRONG) and you need help. But then I don't know you so I wont presume to tell you what you need and don't.

Besides Pooty, I am not too sure what it is that you are defending. Are you defending the sites I have talked about or are you defending a perceived attack on people with eating disorders? Because far from attacking, I am suggesting that people with eating disorders need help; just not 'help' from sites promoting 'thinspiration' and other such concepts.


Pooty 7 years ago

Actually, according to the Websters dictionary the definition of disorder is not 'WRONG':

Main Entry:1dis·or·der 1 : to disturb the order of 2 : to disturb the regular or normal functions of

I am young, I am 19 years old, 20 later this year. However, it's not the physical age that counts here. I have a lot of trouble expressing what I am thinking to others sometimes, and get caught up in my own head.

I'm not sure what I'm defending. It is a lifestyle choice. Let me explain.

As almost any ana will tell you, we like control. We control our bodies, what goes into them, what comes out, etc. Have you ever been more than a day without eating? It's painful. Do you think that we would rather plonk ourselves into the dieseased pile? Or admit that one, we love control, two, we can't stop and three, if we admit we can't stop then we admit we have no control- therefore it becomes a 'choice'.

I'm defending all of it suppose, because these sites are made by us. The 'help' you're suggesting is often painful and forced. Instead of 'helping', many judge, hurt, abuse, distrust and make things worse. These sites, made by sufferers ninety-nine percent of the time support recovery. In my own opinion, when I am ready to hang up my measuring tape it is these sites I will run too- not a doctor or a family member.

Going back to a point I made earlier, do you really expect any Ana to seek 'help' from the same hypocritical people who declare us an obese society, then say everyone who isn't overweight is underweight? Take Oprah for example- one day she's buzzing about a new crash diet, the next she's crying about anorexia.

You have never once mentioned the brilliant parts of these sites- the help with recovery, the safe tips (if you're already doing it, isn't it better for you to learn the dangerous and often deadly parts from people with experience?), the community, the safeness of these places.

These sites are refuges for those who have no where else. You can't turn to a parent- what if they do (insert extreme here)? You can't turn to 'friends' because everyone bitches- let's be honest. Don't you think it's safer to learn the good parts from these sites rather than die because you were misinformed, or had no information?


Emily 7 years ago

In response to Pooty: Eating disorders are not 'choices'. If that was the case, I would never choose to go through all the pain I've been through as aresult of my eating disorder. There's a big difference between anorexic and pro-ana. Anybody that has really suffered an eating disorder would not promote it or think of it in a negative light. Eating disorders are mental illnesses, very different from starving yourself (unless you are starving yourself because of your eating disorder) which is your choice.


Pooty 7 years ago

Hi Emily,

I agree with you. It might sound as though I'm back tracking but I actually do. When I said they are a choice, I didn't mean that we all thought when we were kids that we'd grow up and become ana or mia. I meant to say that it's not up to anyone else to 'fix' us. All I've been trying to say is that pro-ana websites are not always evil and wrong. Often, they are very supportive of recovery and promote healthy ways of trying to live with ana, for instance, negative calorie foods, exercise, etc.

I don't look at ana as a curse, but a gift.


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bala99 7 years ago from Hyderabad, Telangana, India.

Pooty, I admire you for the spirited argument you are putting up. Arnold Schwarzenegger as an example of the in accuracy of BMI? Wrong choice.BMI is a system designed and modeled on normal muscle density. Yes it can be inaccurate in the cases of people who either pack in abnormal amount of muscle on to their frame, or simply dry out intentionally. Your next statement proves me out.

About your mother, again, compare the national statistical average height to hers. There is good chance that you will find a substantial difference. Both of the examples are abnormal and do not fall under statistical averages at all.

Now is statistical averaging any accurate? Yes! it is. Worlds economy runs on this.


Emily 7 years ago

Pooty,

If you really appreciate the seriousness of eating disorders, don't use the words "Ana", use the correct medical term 'anorexia nervosa'.

Anorexia nervosa is NOT a gift. If it is, it is the most unwanted gift I've ever received.


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

Thanks Emily, for putting that in no uncertain terms, that it is NOT a gift; that 'Ana' is not some sort of benign, friendly companion. I thought that coming someone who really knows what they are talking about, it would carry more weight for someone like Pooty?


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girly_girl09 7 years ago from United States

Emily- unfortunately pro-ana and pro-mia sites are never supportive of recovery. When I was diagnosed with an eating disorder at age 16, I decided to search the web for information about it. I was clueless that there were sites out there that were actually encouraging me to not receive treatment for my disease. So, you can imagine how difficult it was for me to begin my recovery once I came across several sites offering TIPS on how to hide my behavior and telling me that nothing was wrong with me, telling me that having heart palpitations, weakness and black-outs and the inability to focus in school, was all ok and just part of who I was.

These sites are very, very dangerous. Please do not think that they support you as a person, they are supporting and encouraging eating disorders. While an eating disorder is part of you, it is not all of you.

Those sites made my recovery impossible. Once my mother was told about these types of sites and that our home PC should be checked, she was able to closely monitor my internet activity so I couldn't keep receiving support from anonymous people online. The tips and tricks and inspiration was supporting me to do damage to my body, instead of beginning the healing process..

You're right, eating disorders aren't a choice but we can choose how we cope to deal with them. I know they never go away, I know that for sure. But, I have been able to deal with mine; this would've been impossible with me frequenting pro-ana/mia sites. I'm just very sad that there are sites out there that encourage eating disorders, when there is so much you can do to start the path to something much more powerful, which for me is the control that I have to eat a normal amount of calories, but mostly all healthy foods.

I'm not saying I'd relapse if I looked at a pro ana/mia site, but it could be possible. I wish they weren't allowed and hope that I don't accidentally stumble across one some day.


Emily 7 years ago

I know that pro-ana/mia sites do not promote recovery, that's why I don't frequent them.

Many are 'pro-recovery' in theory, but in reality, they are stopping the sufferer from telling somebody of real medical importance (i.e. a medical professional), and delaying recovery.

Now can people please differenciate between anorexia nervosa and pro-ana, because they are entirely different. Anorexia nervosa is a mental disease that you cannot choose to have and has a 20% mortality rate, while pro-ana is the imitation of anorexia sufferers in order to lose weight.

Yes Pooty, people with eating disorders should not be discriminated against, I should know, the stigma I've encountered became so unbearable it pushed me deeper into my eating disorder.

But Pro-Anas should not be tolerated, they don't understand the seriousness of eating disorders and don't respect all those who have died as a result of eating disorders, or medical professionals that attempt to recover sufferers, or scientists and psychiatrists that have researched and provided the world with valuable information on the subject of eating disorders.

Instead, pro-anas are (generally) teenage wannarexics that emulate the behaviour of sufferers of anorexia nervosa for vanity.

People that really have suffered from anorexia nervosa know, for a fact, that eating disorders have very little to do with vanity.


Pooty 7 years ago

All I can say is what I know.

I look at this as a gift, but that is a personal choice. I don't support the 'recruitment' or encouragement of the disease, I support the care that the community provides.


Emily 7 years ago

My own generation embarasses me yet again.


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

Pooty is sounds as though you are determined to delude yourself. I hope you have someone there who can help you; and whom you will permit to help you.


Emily 7 years ago

Reena, I wouldn't go there if I were you. This could turn nasty!

I often wonder what age these people are, and it takes a 15-year-old to knock some sense into them???'


Pooty 7 years ago

I'm not deluding myself. I have a problem- I know that. I actually eat, I just restrict.... a lot. I fast, but I also reep the benefits. My boyfriend knows what I am, and I suppose you could say he helps. Reena- Have you ever had an eating disorder? And Emily, if you do have an eating disorder and are trying to avoid pro-ana sites then how did you find this topic?

In regards to what you mentioned earlier about me calling the disorder 'Ana', you do realise it is a personification of a diesese that is very painful yes? Also, "I often wonder what age these people are, and it takes a 15-year-old to knock some sense into them???'", no it doesn't. If you had an eating disorder you would realise that the opinions of people, especially those whom you don't know, would have little effect on whether you went into recovery or not.


Pooty 7 years ago

Emily, sorry I misread your post earlier.

I agree with what you said. The majority of Pro-Ana sites are created by wannarexics who think it is a diet, what I am trying to defend is the handful that are not. There are a few out there that are not like that at all. These sites actually do support recovery, and the people with the 'problem'.


Emily 7 years ago

What I meat by knocking sense into them was not recovery, simply the fact that eating disorders are something you choose to have, they are mental diseases.

Yes, I have an eating disorder, I have suffered from it for two years now. I want to recover. I fully understand the deteriments eating disorders have on both physical and mental health. I want to get better because I don't want to suffer like this any longer.

The matter of the fact is, pro-ana and pro-mia sites delay recovery. Pooty, I can see that you're confused about what you're talking about because you're going back on your words. We're in the same situation you know. I know what you're going through, I'm going through it too. I want to get better, but not through dodgy underground websites created by mentally unstable people, but by people who have done the research and understand the scientific aspect of my mental disease.

Yes, you should not be ashamed of having an eating disorder, I am sick and tired of being discriminated because of mine, but you should not be proud of it either. Learn to acknowledge the seriousness of your eating disorder, it is not a 'gift'.

There's a difference between anorexia nervosa and pro-ana. A huge difference. I am not attacking suffferers of this mental illness, I am attacking those that promote it, glorify it and those who cannot respect the seriousness of the disease.

If you log on to pro-ana or pro-mia sites you are saying that you don't appreciate the seriousness of eating disorders or respect those who have suffered from them.

If you truly respect those who have died and suffered from these deadly diseases, you should be able to find the strength to get help yourself.


bam 7 years ago

Pro ana/mia sites don't tell you anything you don't already know.. it's common sense. I was a vegetarian for the longest time and everyone thought I had an eating disorder. Excuse me for eating vegetables?


Justme 7 years ago

I think, in order for someone to write anything they really want the world to hear, they should be open minded and not attack any given person. Age is of no consequence here. I am going to be 30 yrs old this year, which is not young by any means. Anorexia and bulimia is a disease, not a life style choice. I have suffered and yes suffered, most of my life from this disease. Some people are so diseased they die from it and some can live an entire life with it and not die. Obesity is also a disease. It can kill people just as anorexia or bulimia can. I work in a hospital and see obese people die nearly everyday from heart attacks, and very rarely do I see people die from an ED. I could come on here and say the writer of this sounds young or the person who couldn't get the words out right was just a kid trying to be like me, but I am not. I disagree with both. I would love to wake up not obsessing over my weight, or having to immediately weigh myself, or feel so weak I can barely walk. however I can't control this, which makes it a disease and NOT a lifestyle choice. Unless you've been in my shoes, you will never understand what it's like. All this post did was remind me of how ignorant our world is and how they can attack peope they don't understand with out knowing exactly what it is they go through, which is exactly what they did back in the early 19th century, eg: skitzophrenics, etc. I can understand how frustrating it may be seeing these sites that teach people how to be anorexic but bear in mind these people tend to be in a very fragile state. Most of them die not on account of their disease but because they feel worthless and commit suicide. I really hope these people never read sites like this because these sites have the potential to cause suicide. You can attack me all you want but I only commented to let others know the truth behind ED's.


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

@Justme: I am not sure how my post 'attacks' anyone; it is merely about something that I found scary: that there are sites out there that encourage people with eating disorders, even share tips on how to become anorexic or bulimic and which teach how to hide the fact that one may have an eating disorder. That is the purport of my article; and the way that these sites have been defended in the ensuing comments bears out my premise I think.


Catherine 7 years ago

Wow. go Emily! I'm 15 too and I have never had this disease, and I will never expect to fully understand it, so I can see from a different point of view than people who have been sufferers, and of course they have a different point of view to us.

Emily you give me so much inspiration, you are so sensible. Pooty, please listen to Emily, you are defending and glorifying something that is causing so much pain, and why? I don't understand that part.

Of course, it is good that some of these pro ana sites will help to make sure that people are being careful with what they do, but Reena's point still stands, these sites are preventing people from seeking help, and convincing people that there is nothing wrong with them, and giving tips on how to hide their situation.

Reena has not attacked anyone, only the fact that these sites are defending a terrible disorder that needs profassional help in order for any of these girls (or boys) to save themselves.

Feel free to reply if you don't agree, I'm just reading to learn and it is very interesting but upsetting, and I will admit, pretty scary.


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

Thanks for seeing my point of view Catherine.


Puella 7 years ago

go pooty!


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Lady_E 7 years ago from London, UK

I'm glad you wrote about it too, Reena.

You know another sad thing is: I was checking my Google Analytics a few days ago and some plonkers (excuse me) are using these keywords to search. "sexy anorexic pics", "Hot anorexic girls". Honestly, the world is just going crazy but I'm glad we are raising awareness and receiving positive responses.

Regards, Elena.


cc 7 years ago

THIN is beauty!!!Why you people don't understand this?If we are skinny doesn't mean we are anorexics.we just eat healthy!leave us in our world!


Emily 7 years ago

I honestly don't know where to begin, pro-ana is such a debatable issue, something that should only be debated by people that have been affected by eating disorders and mental health professionals.

I hate this, "Go Pooty!" and "Go Emily!". It shouldn't be a war of two opposing sides, (as human beings, we should have common interests), it should be a war on our inner demons.

And I think, before we even try fighting this disease, several thing need to be established:

1. Eating Disorders are mental diseases with no one particular cause. Food itself is never the problem, so food can never be the cure. Eating disorders have nothing to do with vanity.

2. Every human being has a soul, and a person's beauty can only be measured by this soul. The human body is only a mortal or finite temple in which the soul is transported.

Now that we've got that cleared up (but of course, feel free to disagree with these points), we can move onto the nitty-gritty.

Now Justme: You agree that anorexia nervosa is a nervous illness, I presume. So how can you compare a mental illness with a physical state? Yes, obesity can kill just like any eating disorder. Obesity is defined as having 20% or more extra weight than you should have. I know plenty of people that are obese and their quality of life has not been affected in any way. But I do not know one genuine disordered eater that is satisfied with their quality of life.

I, personally, have what is considered a healthy weight BMI. If you didn't know me properly, you'd say I was 'the picture of health'. You wouldn't think that I was fighting a disease with a 30% mortality rate. There isn't one day I'm not fighting with my own self. I have been attacked by a disease that contradicts my sanity and my health and everything I've ever been told. It has invaded my mind and it alienates me in my own mind. I don't have any idea who I am without my eating disorder because it is a permanent parasite that feeds off my sanity and leads me to self-destruction. I don't believe I'll ever be living my life until I'm recovered.

Catherine: Thank you for your reply but there's no point in trying to persuade Pooty to see the light. Eating disorders cannot be cured by knowledge. Pooty knows what she's doing, she accepts that her eating disorder is a mental illness, and she's fighting it as best as she can. Fighting it by living, because everyday is a struggle when you have an eating disorder. Pooty has to find the strength in herself to free herself from this eternal nightmare. She'll do it in her own time, and God help both you and I, Pooty, as only about a third ever fully recover.

Lady_E: What you have seen is purely a result of shallow ignorant uneducated fuckers that don't understand the fact that an eating disorder is a disease and not a 'diet' or 'lifestyle choice'.

CC: You're the very shallow ignorant uneducated fucker that I talked about previously. We understand correctly alright, we understand that beauty is skin-deep and that we are worth so much more than how people judge our bodies. We weren't complaining about skinny people, people often call me skinny, we are complaining about people like you that don't understand what beauty really is.

And lastly, Reena: I understand that you meant well in bringing up the topic of pro-ana as a means of raising awareness, but please don't ever again (though after these responses, I strongly doubt you will). Leave pro-ana to the mental health professionals because too many people don't know the first thing about eating disorders.

As a sufferer and one of the informed I feel it is my duty to add the following links that I advise you to use if you think you are at risk of developing an eating disorder:

http://www.eatingdisordersanonymous.org/

http://www.edreferral.com/

http://www.something-fishy.org/

http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/


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Reena Daruwalla 7 years ago from INDIA Author

Thanks for the links Emily. For some reason your comment was flagged as spam probably because of multiple links


sunnygurl 7 years ago

Well, I read what everyone had to say. But to be blunt about the subject there really is no point in leaving comments about this. It's not going to stop any of the young girl's and boy's who take in this mental diease or (lifestyle) as some feel it is. In all reality the more attention it gets the worse it seems to spread such as the media portrays it in movies, magazines (skinny celbs), and the biggest one of all the internet. But I'am not saying we shouldn't talk about it, just we should attack the people who help fuel it...but not really the websites them self's but the fashion runway shows, the magazines that say "hey lose 20 pounds in a month" on there cover the billions of advertisments on tv saying take this to lose weight, be fit by the summer, with this diet. This is where young people first get it in there head that they need to lose weight fast and that it really is important. For example my little cousin who is under 10 years old as on numours occasions told me she is fat, that she is on a diet, that she needs to lose weight. She is a child and she is thin but she's got it in her head that she needs to diet and as someone who suffers personaly from EDNOS I can understand both sides. I have a promble I know that, but I've had it for years and have accepted it but that doesn't mean that I want other people to have to go through the thing's that I put my body through. So I believe that people should stop bitching at the sites and go directly to the source if they want to get something done. Remember the people who make these sites are people who are already touch by "pro ana" and they are mostly set in there ways people should just go after the main promblem. So that's what I think should happen.


BP 7 years ago

hiya

ive read most of the comments on here, some were kinda long so i skimmed them, srry if i miss read them and so my views on what hav been said arent quite accurate. srry bout spelling too

my eating disorder started out as EDNOS and i found an online community on bebo, there i met many girls, some who would share with each other what they had eaten that day and their weights, others refused to do this as they felt it would create competition. i became good friends with a girl who was and still is extremely ill with this disorder and yes she would congratulate me if i had done a fast, however their were girls i've met they have told me to get help.

i did try and get, while i was waiting, 3 months i was on a list as they were overworked, i developed bulimia and by the time i was offered help i didn't want it because my thought patterns had changed, i still suffer with bulimia.

i use the pro-mia and ana sites, this does not mean i think it is a healthy option for people and would encourage anyone to diet unhealthly. but i does mean that i don't condem these sites. part of me does agree with pooty's early post's, not sure about the most recent ones.

Reena, i do think that your views on these sites come from an outsider looking in, who may have already had a biased view from the start due to media influence, unless you have used these sites will you know and used more than i would say 3, will you know that on these sites people are trying to help just as much as there are people on there who are that ill that they beleive eating disorder's are normal and the 'right way' to live your life


anon 6 years ago

Hey, I read all the comments and lets just say that being anorexia helps in ways. It is not something I would've ever chosen for myself and I wish I could recover, but that would just mean going into a worse hell than I am right now. I recovered my weight in 4 months after I was ready to recover. Nobody could've forced me to because I had to overcome my control which I loved so much. Secondly, recovery made my life worse, I wanted to cry everday because my body's hunger radar exploded. I was 100 times more hungrier than before even though I was 'normal weight'. recovery is worse than being anorexic..I felt depressed everday when eating and binging everyday. Recovery involves binging. I was happy being ana..I had control over my life, over my grades, and over what I do with my body..And I ate healthy..The only reason I gained weight and recovered was because I ate junk food and sugar most of the time. Recovery was being out of contol in life and who would feel good when their life is out of ocntrol. So try to understand that ana might be better to live on than dealing with a lot of mental problems.


unsureee  6 years ago

heyy ,, i would just like to say ,, i am 14 and most people say i am thin but i just don't think it ,, i know im not too skinny at the moment and i think i am still a bit fat. so for about two weeks ive been living off of water and some sweetcorn or pasta each day ,, skipping breakfast and lunch,, and ive been fine ,, ive lost half a stone and i felt great and in control. but then i looked up about anorexia and read that i could die if i got to the state where i was actually anorexic so today i didn't eat till i got home at 4pm ,, when i had 1 and a half bagles ,, and then one bite of a cookie and pasta for dinner ,, but now i feel horrible ,, i would make myself throw up but i hav a phobia of being sick .. i wish i had more control to not hav eaten that much but i still don't think its anorexia ,, i know what im eating and i like that i am able to not eat a lot. i found a site saying how to help me become anorexic and hide food and it helped me . you can say that it is bad but without that site i would still have not eaten but i would feel more alone.


Ashely 6 years ago

I think that a lot of you people should actually be ashamed of yourselves. You do not know what ana/mia's go through. That is their way of coping and that is how they are going to. Therapy and medical help are not going to change what they think. The only way that they can get better is by themselves. If you do not know what it is like then please do not judge them. Live their life for a change. It's how you view yourself and if they think their fat then they will do anything to the point of their bones showing. If that is what they want to do then let them do it, but don't judge. Because I think that you yourself has problems and you may not cope with it like that, but there are other ways that other people may disagree. Unless you want to be judged then stop judging yourself.


Babs 6 years ago

I am the mother of an anorexic. I have seen the hell my daughter has gone through. What all people should strive for is to be healthy. If you think you have might have a problem talk to someone. I finally had to take my daughter to an emergency room and ask the doctor to talk to her alone because I knew she would not talk to me. Luckily she finally got scared and taked to the doctor. She was taken by ambulance to a hospital that specialized in eating disorders. She probably would have been dead in a few weeks if I hadn't taken her in. She went back to the hospital three times before we could get her stable enough to live at home. She stayed at the hospital for about 10 days each time she went in. I have cried an ocean of tears for my daughter. Everyday I eat with her every two to three hours. My entire life is dedicated to helping her get better. Please don't fool yourself into thinking you're okay. That's the illness tricking you. If my daughter had died It would have destroyed our family. I don't know if I would be able to go on. Please tell someone.


shannon Lesche 6 years ago

well if anorexia is a mental illness, or a psychological disorder how could pro ana mia sites recruite or turn non anas into anorexics or bulimics ..... and why would a healthy individual even search for those sites .....

and i believe that most individuals searching for or viewing these anorexia promoting sites are simply wanarexics .... in addition records of anorexia date back to the 16th century..... further anorexia and anorexia nervosa are two completely different things .... anorexia is a simple lack of appetite and hunger .... while anorexia nervosa is the deprivation of food as a means to loosing weight...

i am not defending anorexia i just feel like the authors of the various comments are naïve as to the true nature of anorexia nervosa and its origin, dangers and yes bennefits .....


CHELSEA 6 years ago

you people hardly know what you're talking about. ive also suffured from ana. and it is ALL about vanity. i want to be beautiful. thats the point. and just as pooty has said when im ready to hang the measuring tape up. i will. i have never seen one pro ana site promote an eating disorder. they promote safe ways to lose weight and ways to help us with out all the medications. and those tips are for those of us who already have it. ma'am, with all do respect. be careful next time when posting something like this. its disrespectful. these are our bodies. and when did it become your business what we do to OUR bodies?


anete 6 years ago

I'm with Chelsea.

First of all, I'd like to say to Reena, that you're talking about A DISCUSSION but whenever Pooty says something, you say that you are really young and I don't think you know what you are talking about.

I don't even know why I'm reading this, it just pisses me off. How can people who don't have an issue with food or an ED or whatever talk about it??? I don't go round talking about schizophrenia or about obesity just because I REASERCHED it. This is ridiculous! There are different reasons why people have an issue with food (I don't like to call it an EATING DISORDER) and some people might call it their CHOICE and some might not.

And how can you talk about a NORMAL WEIGHT or STATISTICS? What is normal and healthy for you, isn't it for me and what is normal for me isn't it for the next person. This is like let's talk about beauty. Beauty and weight and body image are so different for everybody.


Dizzy Lizzy 6 years ago

I wish I had the strength that many ana have. I am really fat and I need to control it the way yu gys do. We all have issues that other peple think we should change. I am not ana, but have struggled with weight and have similair issues as anas do. When I go into my self hating mode, it is comforting to learn new ways to lose weight without hurting myself like drinking peppermint tea for headaches. I have read some things that I disagreed with, but everyone that comes on these sites understand that this is peered reviewed so if something don't work for u, ignore it!!!!

The only way I would tell someone to get help is if they were unhappy with the way they live their lives. And it wouldn't be through passing judgement because that gets u no where!!!


han 6 years ago

just read like all the comments...made me so sad.

i was into all that stuff for a while but now im out. and yea its not easy...and i know i cant relate to all those who are so in it...but surely we all deserve more than that pain....we are beautiful even if we cant see it right now....and if your not in it please don't start..you are beautiful...God made you beautiful....


UDon'tWannaKnow 6 years ago

Dear "unsuureeeeeeEEE," Chelsea (who says it's ALL about vanity), anete (who agrees), and especially you, Dizzy "I-wish-I-had-the-willpower-of-someone-with-a-mental-illness" Lizzy,

GIVE IT UP AND GROW BRAINS, YOU IGNORANT FAIL-BASKETS. Stop using your cute little vanity diets to cheapen the suffering of people with actual problems.


elizhutch 6 years ago

if you haven't actually suffered through this, then you honestly can never understand what we go through. just see our side of this. if you wish to understand what we see look in the mirror and look at all of your imperfections. we choose to take action to become what we were meant to be. you don't, you choose to classify us because we are different.


izi 6 years ago

this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I've heard a lot during the past years, about my "eating disorter".

Try not to over think any of this stupid comments you,ve written down, like we WANT to feel that way. We don't want the feeling, we want to be thin. So get over it, and you can only control your own life, not ours. So just stop reading the "boosting - blogs" or whatever it is.

Upset pro-ana/mia.


anon 6 years ago

Having read many of the comments there appears to be two underlying arguments. That of those who have suffered from an eating disorder and that of those who have not. What is important to remember is that nobody is 'right' or 'wrong' in the discussion but understandably have biased opinions in terms of 'what is beautiful' and 'what anorexia is all about.'

The facts are that many people all over the world suffer from eating disorders whether they eat to little or even too much. Either way it is a psychological condition based around the perception of food.

Now I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of (in this discussion) anorexia nervosa but I do know that EVERY human body needs certain nutrients, vitamins etc in order to survive and remain healthy. That is scientific fact and whilst watching what you eat and exercising is good for your health there is a line that needs to be drawn.

When some pro-ana websites label anorexia nervosa as a'choice' I can almost guarantee that sufferers would not choose many of the effects that under-eating or denying your body of particular food groups, can result in. For example, liver failure, kidney failure, heart failure or even death at a young age.

I must ask- lying in a hospital bed pale and skeletal, attached to a machine and having no strength to even get yourself to a toilet- is that beautiful?


meeee 6 years ago

i think this is a very unfair summary of the site i find they help me and without them i wud be a nobody

'Sacrifice is giving up something good for something better'

this is what i learened and it is how i rule my life !!


Daphne 6 years ago

This makes me cry so badly. Do you know how hard life is when you have an eating disorder? It's not a gift or vanity. It's KILLING people.


Law Russafier 6 years ago

"Man do not live by bread alone but by the word of God" .. Jesus went 40 days and nights without food and He seems pretty fine to me .. Reason people are fat is because they just eat a lot .. and don't stop no matter what they're boy is tryna tell them .. Thin IS beautiful and that is the reality .. Who likes being fat? Most people would say out loud that you should "love the skin your in" or "be porud of who you are" but deep down you're wishin you were as skinny as that supermodel or whoever .. Thin is IN


Kirby 6 years ago

Well... I have to say you have quite the argument going there. Honestly I don't know if I'm anorexic or ana or anorexia nervosia or how ever you wanna put it, but some of my friends are scared by how thin I am, especially my mom. I don't feel any different- I just like being hungry. I like the feeling you get when you haven't eaten for a day. It makes me believe I am in control of something in my life- no matter what happens I can control the way I eat, and it makes me feel powerful(well kinda). I weight about 100 lbs but I'm pretty short so it ends up to be on the very low end of normal. I don't consider myself anorexic, but if it's a mental disease, then for all I know I think I look 10 pounds heavier than I actually am. No, I've never been to rehab, but here are my feelings about this.

I hate when people treat me like "ohh my god, that's not healthy, you need to eat" and all that crap. I feel fine and healthy- probably more than them- and for living in america they're obese people EVERYWHERE!!!! So why is it that people are sent to 'rehab' for being way to skinny when we have a lot more people who are morbidly obese and they die of heart attacks and blood clots every second, but that's ok. How is obesity normal but anorexia is now a mental disease? I'm not saying that anorexia isn't, I'm just saying that if it [i]is[/i] a mental disease, how come obesity isn't? Plus, I don't think pro-ana websites are the problem at all. The cause of the problem is all the emancipated celebritys and tv stars and models are friggin' skeletons! If you ever watch americas next top model the people there are walking bones, and you see the 'plus' models and they look skinnier than most normal people! If your looking at pro ana websites, you already have a problem, and like somebody mentioned not all of them are bad. Some have forums that you can talk on, so you know you are not alone, which seems to me a lot better than so called 'rehab'

I think that if your an anorexic, and you want to go to rehab that's fine with me, but if anyone tried to take me to rehab I would not go, I have never been, but, from what I hear it's a bunch of doctors trying to 'understand your illness'. That would make me even more angry and it would make me want to eat even less. How would you even know you have anorexia? If it's really a mental illness, your brain would convince yourself your fat and to you it wouldn't be not eating it would just be dieting and all the people around you telling you your skinny would just be whack jobs trying to make you feel better.


Lauren 6 years ago

maybe people should just accept that we are all different. some are wanorexics, some have a mental illness, some have no control and some absolutely DO! we cannot change somebody's mindset (remember when homosexuals were given electric shocks to cure them and society deemed this OK?!) as long as we do what we can to help others IF and WHEN they ask for it and NOT judge them, we should mind our own business and just be content with our own lives and try to be the best person that we can be x


Jessica 6 years ago

i want to be thin


morgan 6 years ago

ok listen if yuou believe that your bones shouldn't have bones showing your STUPID its good for them to and i go with lauren


MIAGIRL 6 years ago

We know that its a harmful lifestyle, but its a choice. You have no idea how it is to feel as fat as I feel every day of my life. I could eat right now and keep it down, if I wanted. I'm sick of trying to look for actual thinsporation and getting stupid articles like this!


Unbeautiful 6 years ago

I actually disagree MIAGIRL. I don't think that this is a choice. If it was, i wouldn't be choosing anna and mia. There compleat hell. I hate them and they hate me. There the ones that make me push away everyting important in my life-not just food. There the ones that tell me im fat, and tell me to shove my fingers further down my throte because 'no matter how much i think iv gotten up, its not enough until you see blood'. There the ones that scream at me to run further..faster, to make it burn. There the ones that have convinced me that im never gona be good enough..thing enough. Im never gona lose enough. And i belive them. Cos there right. Im fat...i know that. And being thin is something i'll always want. Even though it doesn't matter how much i lose because it'll never be enough. Wanting to lose weight is my choice... but doing to anna and mia's rules isn't.


EDsufferer 6 years ago

Okay, so I'm 20 and I'm suffering from an ED as well and it's hard to admit. Truly. I don't like thinking I have a disorder, I don't like knowing that there is a part of me that is unhealthy and always will be. But those of you who don't have it, there are some points that are trying to be made that you're vhastly overlooking.

When it is said that EDs are a disease and not a choice, it's the same as a heroine addiction being a disease and not a choice. it is an addiction of the mind. and although there is no external chemicals causing the body to be physically addicted, it's still a mental addiction. Although the sufferer likes to feel they are in control, as pooty pointed out, it's hard for them to understand and realize they aren't. it's especially hard to admit you're not in control (as the first step of recovery from any addiction is) when you feel you're controlling and watching your diet so carefully: what you're out of control is the thought process that always comes back: I can't gain weight.

It's so hard when it controls your every day habits. I work at a pizza restaurant, which makes it increasingly difficult because when I want to eat, I can't stop. I smell and crave the food and once I take the first bite, the next thing I know I'm grabbing the 4th, 5th, sometimes 6th slice and somehow still finding ways to put it away.

I have acted as an external observer of my brain when i'm going through this, and find myself thinking "if I eat too much I'll have to throw it up anyway, and then it will be easier to throw the rest up" and I'm shocked by my OWN THOUGHTS. And no matter how bad it makes me feel about myself (and trust me, every bite I feel ashamed and wonder if I can really purge it again) I always find myself doing it again.

And girls that are on those "pro-ana/mia" "thinspiration" sites, you're calling wannabe annorexics and bulimics who don't really have a disease, but the disease is not the actual intake (or outtake) of the food, it's the mental process of it, and yes these girls still have a disease because of that alone. It's not vanity if you're so focused on not gaining weight. Whether you want to feel beautiful in your own eyes through an ideal weight, or beautiful in the eyes of others through an ideal weight, it's still the same thing.

And if you read these sites, you realize that these girls are still going through what those who are "actually living with the disease" are going through; suffering through eating in public, suffering through hiding the purges, finding foods that are easy to purge, that don't hurt coming back up, red eyes from the strain of purging and having to come up with excuses; these are all points that I suffer through on a daily basis and it's so hard because almost nothing else is going through my mind. I can work 10 hours a day, sometimes more, and I have to plan ways to make it look like I'm eating so no one is suspicious, or if I do it at work, how can I throw it up in the bathroom without anyone hearing me?

I admit that I'm suffering from this disease and I plan on finding help soon because it's hard. But those who aren't suffering, you're all ganging up on pooty. You say you aren't, that you're just trying to state your opinions or "help" her by telling her what she needs isn't going to help. i've lived with an opium addict for 20 years, and I know the same doesn't work with a drug addict either. Those of us who suffer, KNOW the health risks, KNOW the disease and deep down KNOW that we need help. The problem is that we want to deny it, because who wants to admit they have a problem? especially a mental disease such as that. You're not helping, you're making the situation worse.

and by stating your opinions in the start of this post, pointing out the things that ED sufferers have said on those sites, it is scrutinizing, even if YOU don't see it as such. In the end, it's not YOUR opinion that matters. It's the persons you're talking about. The ones who need help. We feel. And you're talking about an extremely sensetive subject, it's natural to want to defend ones own habits and thought patterns, not listen to the scrutinizing opinions of a stranger. Hope this helps you understand pooty's point of view, NOT that I AGREE with everythign (s)he's said, I can just read his/her posts and UNDERSTAND where they're coming from. Cheers.


ToBeperfect... 6 years ago

No, I agree. There is a point when it's gone too far, but while you sufffer from the disorder you don't see it as a problem, it's a mental disorder. It's only when you come out the other side that you realize.

BUt bones are beautiful, and I would rather starve myself to death than become fat.


Anamia 6 years ago

I personally think that AN or BN are lifestyle choices, they are NOT a physical state, but a state of mind. To prove my point, the definition of a lifestyle could be claimed as the rules, values, regulations and norms you decide to follow during a period in your life. Just because anorexics and bulimics have a slightly different set of norms and values than "normies" does not mean they suffer a "disorder". the word itself insults the ideas of different cultures, subcultures and democracies. We all value our image, just, some of us take it to extremes to maintain our figures. When you become addicted to that feeling you get when someone says you look good, you've lost weight, or when you skip a meal. that's what you describe as a disorder. But for us, it's the pursuit of happiness


Kaity 6 years ago

I can only recount what the other girls have said. I have been on, studied, and lived these websites for almost 3 years. When they began, they were much more harmful. However, there are many MANY people out there that simply try to build these sites to relate to people with these EDs, and offer them help and support. Most even have a disclaimer on the main page along the lines of "We do not endorse Eating Disorders. They are a serious mental illness, and those who exhibit symptoms of these disorders should seek help." Most also offer a "recovery" section of the site.

So, you see, they are not promoting EDs so much as offering a place of belonging for men and women who have them already.


ifonlyiwerethin... 6 years ago

okay i read all of the comments(it took 4ever) and i am a wanorexic, i admit it. some people have told me im not fat but im 11 and i am 106 pounds i am FAT. i hate it when people tell me im not and Renee you aernt an ana so you need to stop. another thing im not an ana either but i can understand what a lot of them are saying even though they are 4 years older than me or more. you know what my mom supports me. we researched this on the web and my mom says she doesn't mind as long as i stay healthy with vitamins. i wanted to do research before i actually started and you know what i am dissappointed that people cant see that jesus did this, how can you say what jesus did is bad ?


Indian 6 years ago

What a lot of self indulgent crap and whining there is in all the comments! All "poor me you don't know how i suffer" and so on

None of you have a single thing wrong with you that a healthy dose of poverty will not cure. Try having some REAL problems such as not having enough to eat, struggling each day so that the family does not go to bed hungry and then watch your inconsequential moaning and self pity evaporate.

Really these so called 'problems' of overabundance and your lifestyle diseases - you people have zero clue about REAL problems and REAL issues of survival. Selfish, insular, developed country 'problems' PAH!


Carmen 6 years ago

you are completely out of line comparing poverty to an eating disorder. If you had read any of the comments you would have realized that an ED has nothing to do with food itself. for an over eater food is the drug that keeps their minds off their problems, for someone who is anorexic their control over not eating is their drug. YOu have obviously never been affected by this disorder either yourself or anyone you're close so maybe you shouldn't judge.


Liz 6 years ago

Okay. Wow. I actually skipped the last 6 weeks or so worth of comments because I wanted to get my say in before I forgot it!!

I suppose I'm what you'd call a "wanorexic" becuase I DO read the thinspiration blogs, occasionally I look up pro ana mia sites and I have my own issues in my own blog on Open Diary.

But I'm very desagreeable/defensive toward the whole idea that by looking up these sites I'm instantly defined as a "wannabe" not a "will have" or "does already have". As someone said, what makes you think that anyone mentally sound is going to look up these sites?

I've had anxiety, depression and control issues my whole life. I've been self-harming since I was 12 and the fact that I already have these issues, these thought patterns - although in the early stages - should indicate something other than a try-hard. Is it that I'm a wannabe anorexic, or is it that my head's already started to create "Ana"? I'm using the personification not as to publicise it or my agreement with the sentiment but as it's the most appropriate way to state my impressions/thoughts.

I say "Ana" is already in my head, an acquaintance so to speak, and that this is just a way of getting to know "her", being manipulated by "her" into wanting that friendship to grow because we have so much in common, because that's how I feel, how I think, that's what "Ana" wants me to do.

It's a weird way to explain what I think "wanorexics" are going through, or doing; but it makes sense. There are exceptions to all theories, of course, and I'm not saying we all are or that every anorexic starts this way. I'm not even saying I'm necessarily becoming anorexic. But that's my theory.

Also, in response to the whole "obesity" thing going on... from what I've seen, lots of these sites actually have areas for ALL kinds of EDs, including obsessive over-eating which often leads to obesity. So they're not JUST for ana and mia, they're also for EDNOS (Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified), compulsive overeating, etc. Just an added little thought, they usually have definitions and dangers lists for all these disorders, and yes as lots of the people have said SAFER ways to go about the disorder.

One thing I always remember, for instance, is to take a multivitamin tablet occasionally, just in case my diet restrictions/lack of eating due to lack of appetite mean I'm missing out on essential vitamins and nutrients. I first read about this tactic on an anamia site, where it clearly stated "do NOT replace a healthy diet with multivitamin tablets!"

Which is another point. You really have to TRAWL through these sites, especially today, to find sites that encourage the disease as a lifestyle choice. Most sites have so many disclaimers and danger warnings, it's impossible to say they're truly promoting the diseases. They're support networks, of like-minded people.

There are also sites which are trying to redefine the idea of "pro ana" and "pro mia" like www.webiteback.com

This is a complex issue. You can't just sit there, read here and there and come up with a judgement. NO ONE, not the mental health professionals, the family members, the sufferers/participants themselves or the casual bystander with a supposedly "objective" point of view can EVER understand what EDs are about.

The moment you start to learn, you realise how truly ignorent you are. The more things you learn, the more you realise how ignorent you have always been and will always continue to be.


proanasiteskeepmealive 6 years ago

Pro ana forums are the only reason I'm still alive. Years ago the encouraged me to attempt recovery, and I didn't visit them for 18 months, then after I slipped up, I started vistitng them again.

Granted, eating disorders are hell. Pure hell. Torturous hell. But you can't help those who don't want help. You can only support them until they realize they need it. I don't want to go back into recovery again, but as I spiral down into depression, these girls(and boys) help me see that life can be beautiful, and let me know that my intake is too low. And encourage me not to purge. They let me know that I just have to find my groove again, and I can be happy.

I feel like people only see the negative in pro ana sites. Some sites are awful, admitedly. But having them available has saved at least one person, me.


Skulljuice 6 years ago

Everybody always tells me to accept myself as I am. And that, I'm doing. By being pro-ED.


LexxThinangel. 6 years ago

It may be scary to you, but thats because you spend your life beleiving in "science." and "disorder."Have you even looked outside of your stupid textbook and actually tried to lose weight?It's the only thing that's not scary in this world,it's the one thing you know no matter what happens in life you can depend on.It's hard sometimes but the joy, the beauty ,the accomplishment every time the scale drops 15 pounds,it's admirable,it's beautiful,it's powerful.The world fails to understand that we "pro-ana" and "pro-mia" girls,we understand one another we see the beauty the accomplishment of weight loss,we share the beautiful secret that everyone else fails to understand.The quotes,pictures,and words may seem harsh and critical or even"scary" to you, but to us they motivate us,fasinate us,give us envy of their success to fuel our own,just as maybe a collegue making some wonderful"discovery" or"break through" would yourself.This idea of losing weight being terrible is what causes is us to connect,motivate,and lean on one another through these sites.Most of us have been shipped off to facillities or placements or physciatric units for simply not eating or purging,we cannot trust anyone but eachother, most of us have to hide everything all the time, we can't even be caught on thinspirating websites because of you and the rest of societies stigma on the only place I and thousands like me find understanding.I'm a 16 teen year old girl from ohio, and the people I thought I could confide in turned on me and turned to you and the rest of the world.They've already tried to send me out of the state and settled for six hours away from my home and family because I was doing the one thing that brings me comfort and happiness.They've diagnosed me with "Bulimarexia" and "OCD" and "Depression" and all that other bull crap.I'm not dying I'm keeping myself beautiful and sane.If I'm committing suicide it's because you stupid people who've never tried it and don't really understand even if you say you do drill into people's brains the terror of it and we're suffering in loony bins and turn to these websites because noone else even "professionals" who supposedly over came it can comprehend why we need it and how absolutely flawless tanned skin outlined by brilliant white bones is.Science may prove it's dangerous and body and mind deteriorating,but if everything can be proved in a lab then why do we have blocks crowded with churches and so many more un-answered questions.If you knew it all you'd skip dinner tonight and rid that excess anxious skin on your body, you think I'm deluded,irrational,and sick go ahead, but I bet in the next thirty days even if it's not to my or others like me extreme you will notice someone else or yourself and think "she's fat."or"I need to go on a diet" or "I'm gaining weight these jeans are too tight."or anything else along those lines.So while you preach to me and other girls and young women about the health hazzard, pay attention to your thoughts or observations on others, we are the grls that got those looks or knew that we need to shed and we put into gear you have thought abouts someone over-weight"they need to lose weight."Obesity kills people daily more than amonth of self induced starvation deaths.I'm sixteen with a future, who is shunned and turned away because I purge and fast,and I slither around pretending to eat and stealing praise so I can be a writer one day, because if not I'll be boxed in with "timeout rooms" and "tube threats" never living life never thin, never free, and never beautiful.Atleast 20 people have told me I could model in the last year when fasting and 3 years prior before it started or evn during the first year to year and a half, not one person ever told me.Of course, I can't share my secret,can't express the pain that goes along with no-gain, and why I don't look good enough yet give me two moths and i"ll look even better.No,I just blush and say"no I couldn't,but thankyou."On these sites I'm free and with the only profound worthwhile human beings that understand the quest and significant importance or flawlessness,perfection,and control outside of a twilight novel or a religious cult.I beleive in god, and I have faith in him,but he can't do everything for you, he can guide you, or help you but you have to do the work yourself,and by striving for perfection you're not trying to be god, you're working your hardest just as a monk would, you are living the best life you can, trying your hardest,and doing over and beyond the best you can putting a 110% of effort into everything you do, even weightloss.What is so wrong with that?We need one another because after all this, I know you still absolutely cannot fathom to step out of your textbook, keep the stigma going you're doing great!but hopefully a fellow girl or guy will read this and think "WOW that is so true!",If you do think that just know I understand you and you're not on your own.You may have to hide from home ,school, work, family, friends and speacialists,but I know what it feels like to glimmer with white poking through your flesh,and as you're walking hear them whisper"Wow, I want to be skinny like her."

IGETYOU!


athina 6 years ago

i glanced over some of the comments and am always a little concerned when people who don't or haven't achknowleged yet that they have an "ed", say it's a choice. Unfortunately any one with any type of addiction has no choice, hence getting help. Maybe before you say something, do the research, and may have learned that an addicts brain and body is chemically wired differently. I am not harping on any one, especially if you don't understand, just remember to learn about something before stated uncorrect facts.


AnaAbomination 6 years ago

Fridge Picker have Bigger Knickers.

I guess we can already tell you're one.


Kat 6 years ago

why would somebody promote anorexia and bulimia?

I have both and it's HORRIBLE! I feel isolated, having an Eating Disorder is the worst hell ever.

And some people promote this? It's sad.


me! 6 years ago

starving is control. control is tough. bones are beautiful when thin isn't enough


mikkimanyhawks 6 years ago

Indian - if you have so many problems with 'survival' why are you wasting your time on the internet, being unreasonable and unfair? it seems to me that some people with serious EDs would still have the exact same problems even if their family WAS barely able to get by. I do see your point, but I think that you're being very harsh, and comparing things that are VERY different.

also, i think people are generalizing too much... in my experience with reading about Pro-Ana and 'wannarexics' and also really severe Anorexia Nervosa...for some people it IS a lifestyle, for some people it's a disorder, for some people it may even be both. not trying to offend anyone, I'm not trying to promote anything or assume I know what people are going through.

my own personal view on it is, if it works for you and you love it, do it. If it's hurting you, try to get help. but there is a fine line between being a 'wannarexic', 'Pro-Ana', whatever you want to call this, and feeling completely unable to escape from your suffering, even if you want to.


AppleJuice 6 years ago

POOTY IS RIGHT SO SHUT UP AND TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT S/HES TRYIN 2 SAY. :D


tinylovebeauty 6 years ago

you need to shut up you don't know what its like to wake up and dread looking in the mirror and hate you're self and wanting to rip your selfe to shreds because you are too ugly and fat, then you fast and restrict for a week then feel like shit and go on a binge and after are engulfed in guilt and self disgust and self hatred and go searching the house for the sharpest knife and laxatives, and every time you hurt your self and say ow you tell your self to shut up and go to hell and that you deserve to feel that pain because you are too fat and stepping on the scale and bursing into tears when you see that you've gotten 2lbs uglier after a binge, people with EDs don't like but we need it to have the sense of contol that you wont ever be controled by food that these fools who think that ana's and mia's can and should just stop are wrong we have to be in control and be lovely and skinny and beautiful and only after we are skinny we will be worth anything let alone being loved


mianalways 6 years ago

i totally agree with you tinylovebeauty, people don't understand what it's like. It's a constant struggle, and I feel like no one ever understand what i'm going through. it doesn't matter how many people tell you you're skinny and pretty you're never going to believe it until you finally reach your goal of the size you want to be. Everyone without an ED should stay out of this, please. because people looking from the outside will never understand until you have been in our shoes, we don't need to hear that it is wrong, it is our life. hate it or love it.


Bristi 5 years ago

Everyday of my life I look at the abundance of what is around me. I see everything, all the wants and the needs. What I see is chaos, over-indulgence, excess, and a severe lack of control. Control is a necessity in such a messed up world. Control of myself is the only way out. I get up everyday and control everything I eat. I eat less than 800 calories a day. Because I do NOT need more than that. I do not consider myself to have an eating disorder, but at 17 yrs of age, at 103 pounds, I want to weigh less because it is a necessity. I do NOT have an ED. I am merely a girl who wishes to regain control. And of course to be thin. I look in the mirror everyday and see fat. I step on the scale and see the number rise 1.5 lbs and I think fat. I hate it, I loathe it. And while I at least recognize I should't think that, I can't stop. It is an addiction. As I said before, I do not identify myself as having an ED, but I am very sympathetic towards those who do. I agree with the many people who have commented before me. No one knows what it feels like unless you have an ED. No one needs to judge the girls who do. It is a sick way of people to stick their asses into places that are none of their business. Just stay out of it! Your judgment, your correction, your horror and shock that someone could have an ED does not help anyone. You will never understand.


mianalways 5 years ago

well said, amen to that


NeverTrustTheInternet 5 years ago

Basically, no one is going to agree.

THE END.


danix3 5 years ago

everyone has their own opinion about what an eating disorder is. Whether you suffer from anorexia, or bulimia. It's a disease. Point blank. if you truly suffer from this disease, It take's over you're life. You're whole life becomes about food, weight. Until, you finally reach help. i guess, the pro ana/mia sites, help those girls. who want it. Who want to be skinny. Who want to look like a celebrity. but those, who are recovering, or like Emily, Reena, Pooty, bala, girly_girl, or whatever. all have their different meanings. everyones different. everyone has their own views. those who actually endure the disorder. Know, the sites. don't help. The sites, don't explain the risk's it can cause all of it. It should say, Eating disorder tips. Here's everything you can do to avoid, eating. Or to eat, and binge and tips. To know how to throw up. Should say, You could DIE. You could, end up in a wheelchair, for the rest of your lives. Or if you have it, you can get help. In all odds, you might find yourself, getting help with someone who has the same disorder.


lets not fight 5 years ago

Truthfully, I think the reason why there is so much controversy about this is because this so-called "disorder" is actually pretty undefinable. To me, being "pro-Ana" is not about telling people not to eat or telling them to lose 20 pounds. To me, being "Ana" is waking up every day and thinking 'have I gained weight?' it's about thinking every few hours 'don't eat the ice cream' and instead reluctantly picking up an apple. It's about knowing that I have a problem, admitting to it, and accepting myself for who I am. I don't look to pro-Ana websites for encouragement to starve myself, I look to them for company, reassurance that I am not the only one who is obsessed with my weight.

No one will ever understand, and that's cuz no one will ever be able to think the way another person does. I don't understand what's so wrong about it anyway. No one is telling each other to become anorexic. We're just offering support to people who already know they are.


always8 5 years ago

Suicide can be 'death by natural causes'. . . perhaps EDs can be too. For friends and family, death of a loved one will never be an acceptable choice.


Freja 5 years ago

I read the beginning of the discussing but eventually I gave up because it's soooo long. What i did read i agree with - both parts. I don't "recommend" becoming anorexic, but just saying that I found myself in both views. Anorexia was my prison but at the same time it was my saviour. Let me explain:

I probably should say that I'm not very old - only 20 - but I started bulimia when i was about 11 and I was first diagnosed with anorexia when I was 14. I have a long history of self-harm, suicide attemps and extreme mood swings. I'm NOT looking for a huge discussing on the topic nor am I looking for sympathy, but pro-ana sites and pro-mia sites actually saved my life. I'm against them, but I might not have been alive if it wasn't for the "help" and support I got there. I know it sounds a little weird, so let me fill you in. As I mentioned earlier i have done self-harming for many years. I was a suicidal teenage bulimic with extreme mood swings that often let to me throwing things in rage. I couldn't control myself but I found comfort and help in an anorexic "life-style". My mood swings never completely disappered neither did my obsession with death, but my anorexic behaviour - that later lead to suffering from severe anorexia - helped me control my out of control emotions. For almost 3 years i lived in the shadow of anorexia. It isn't long compared to most, but it was more than enough for me. I wanted to get better I truly did. Of course recovery isn't easy and not long after I began recovery did my mood swings and fears come back with full force, and with that came another suicide attemp. I got help and support from pro-ana sites - both support on getting better, but also help on going back to anorexia. One thing is sure tho, pro-ana sites DO NOT encourage suicide or any other abusive behaviour exept the disease (anorexia) itself. It took me another 1 1/2 years before I got help and was diagnosed with Boderline Personality Disorder (BPD). I still remember that day very clearly, and I was told that anorexia (and bulimia) is actually very commond in people with BPD and I'm sure that I would eventually have committed suicide in my late teen years if it hadn't been for my anorexia.

I guess what I'm really trying to say is that you shouldn't judge people with eating disorders because most of the time they actually have reasons for doing this. Some have serious mental disorders (like Borderline Personality Disorder, Bipolar Disorder etc.) or have been sexually abused, neglected etc.. A lot also suffer from OCD (Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Anxiety Disorders etc. Or they might just have a hard time coping with life and have found hope in anorexia. I'm not trying to categorize anorexic, everyone have their own reason for it. I'm not saying that Eating Disorders are ok, but don't judge people who suffer from them. I've seen how people look at me when I tell them that I had anorexia. Most people start acting weird about it because they don't know how to handle it. And some just avoid me. They are always observing what I'm eating and are careful not to talk about weight, diets and food when I'm around. And they never talk to me about that time of my life. They always act as if it didn't happen. I NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT. We all do! And not to a shrink. We need to talk about it with family and friends.

Eating Disorders are like a little dirty secret in our society. It's not easy to ask for help when you feel so ashamed of yourself and at the same time an american television show makes fun of bulimics?! It's just my experience anyway. It's not any different than drugs or alcoholics - it's an addiction and it will eventually kill you if you don't stop.


Princess 5 years ago

Um okay so i've been anorexic and bulimic and i don't recommend it but i don't think anybody who hasn't had it or hasn't seen someone close to them suffer with it, has any idea what its like. I didn't choose to wake up every morning and have the first thing i think about be how much i can eat, I didn't choose to worry about how many calories a carrot has, i didn't choose to be under-weight. It sucks. But i would also like to say that Reena was right about the websites. Most of them do give ways to become anorexic or bulimic. Like for instance the "ten thin commandments" or websites with qoutes like "A good anorexic is one who doesn't get caught" Its good to support girls with this disorder but don't give them qoutes and encourage them to continue to have this disease and not get help.


Phoebe 5 years ago

I suffer from EDNOS (eating disorder not otherwise specified). When you're stuck in an ED, you can't help obsess with thoughts of change, of 'thinner' and 'better', and you strive for it. Not to mention in active disorder, it's hard to be alone. I don't think pro-ana or pro-mia is a negative thing, because it keeps those struggling with company. Not negative, but it is unhealthy. I won't lie there. It will kill us.

But nobody woke up and said "Hey, I feel like being thin and boney." and started making pro-ana sites. It's a disorder, which means these sites are ALSO disordered. It's not a game. We just indulge in the websites that keep us comfortable while in active disorder.

'nuff said.


curvygirl101 5 years ago

I'm unsure on how I feel about pro-ana/pro-mia websites. My best friend in the world has been going through hell with some mental issues. She started cutting herself, stopped eating, and started puking. She also wants to die and has said she was going to kill herself. She is still a cutter but is getting help for that issue, but I'm not sure if anyone but a few friends and I know about the eating disorder. She barely eats, and if she does she immeadiately goes and throws up. She just really wants to die and I can't scare her out of puking/not eating. I'm not sure if a pro-ana/pro-mia site would hurt her or help her. I just want her to get better, she's so thin and thinks she's fat! I don't want her to die when she's only 14!


Jess 5 years ago

I have read some of the comments but I do have to say I strongly believe that it is not a choice. This is a disorder just like depression. I know I wasn't like "Hey today seems like a great day to be depressed and want to die." Everyone I have met with a ED has always wanted to recover or wished that they didn't have it. My heart goes out to those that have a ED or know someone suffering with one.

I'm not pro ana or mai but I have gone to some of the sites and pulled some tips and ideas on how to lose weight and to keep yourself on track. Some of it is a good idea and may work for some people. When I did go to these sites most of them had links to support groups, 24hr chats to talk to someone, who made be able to help you onto the right path. There were some bad points that I found really gross because they did support induced vomiting and such. I agree that a lot of the people that did make the site are most likely wannabes but maybe these wannabes have been able to help some people because now they have some where were they can go and talk to others that have same problem. It's really hard to say. We are all here telling one another that you are wrong, your wrong and im sure someone will tell me I am wrong too but all well each your own.

I would also like to point at that there may be people here that are just saying shit to feel like they fit in. There may be people here that eat everyday but like to pretend that they have a problem. I'm not saying that any of you are. I'm just pointing out that as humans we do stupid shit. I have first hand experience with this. A girl I went to school with use to cut herself just for attention. She started doing this after finding out that I was actually depressed. YAY for bi-polar.....NOT. She choose to cut herself, she choose to feel depressed. After the teachers and her parents talked to her. She actually came up to me and said she was sorry. We became friends and now she is going to school to help people with disorders. She has always been a great supporter for me.

Like depression I believe this is a disorder and that the people who do have it should try their hardest to get help or find a way to find themselves. It's hard to come out and talk. I know this first hand as well. I have a hell of a time talking to people about my depression. I feel ashamed that I have thoughts of dying, of my life ending, feeling that no one wants me etc. It is hard thing to deal with. I just want to throw a tip out there for those looking to recover but don't know how to ask for help.

Sit down a lone in your room or some where were you feel totally comfortable and write a letter about all your feelings and anything that comes to mind. Mail it to someone you trust and know will offer or help you get the help you need. This way you are asking for help without having to say a word to someone's face which can be the hardest thing in the world. It help me and now when i feel really down sometimes I write random letter and it helps make the feelings go away.

Not choice, Not a lifestyle, not something to pretend to have. This is a disorder, this is a painful thing for a lot of people.

Stay strong all of you with a real ED. You can full through this. You are beautiful inside and out and we love you for you.


mia 5 years ago

People may tell me I have an eating disorder, but its not an eating disorder because to me its normal. I am not saying that how everyone elses chooses to eat is wrong, its just we all have a different idea of 'healthy'. Its a choice that I have made to starve and purge, because that is what I am doing, its what I have chosen to do because it makes me feel better about myself, its not about being right or wrong, at the end of the day, I do get upset and angry and feel so alone that I want to shut myself away. But that is a sacrifice I am willing to make to feel better in my body, because I have happy time too, not just bad ones. And I don't feel I can talk to anyone like the numerous CAMHS councellers or my parents or friends, or any other people that are trying to help because they judge me so I post on these sites because people are there for one another, these are what I would call my friends, the ones I can really talk to. I feel beautiful when I see all my bones. That's not to say you do, but then, its what makes me happy . Because at 15 I don't have much else I can control.

Lily l


cathy 5 years ago

If such thing would be implemented by law, Bala99, then I would rather go to jail than to be as someone wants me to be.


Kayla 5 years ago

I would like to mention to all of you that what a person decides to eat or not eat has NOTHING to do with any of you. Ana and Mia ARE life style choice just like someone decides to eat these girls decide not to. There are OBESE people out there and no-one is making a fuss about how much they eat, but still they are putting their bodies under huge amounts of stress and are someday going to KILL themselves aswell. The one thing that we are all certin about in life is that we are all going to die but these girls who DECIDE to be Ana or Mia just decide that when they die they are going to be thin.

Finally I would like to ask you all have you ever been Anorexic or Bulimic? Do any of you people out there know what it is like to look in the mirror and hate what is looking back at you?

When you know what it is like to have ana or mia then you can come back here and start giving out about these websites.


gem 5 years ago

Fat people don't want to let anyone be ana cuz they are jealous cuz they're fat.


Domo 5 years ago

Wow, I know this an argument going nowhere, but for the record, almost every single pro-ana site I've been on (which is a lot-probably 20 or 25) have supplied links to websites that are all about recovery. I just got so mad when I saw people saying that there is NOTHING about recovery, because that is a load of crap. And, no anorexia is NOT a choice. And it doesn't appearover night. With me, I was 10 pounds overweight. So I cut back a little and started to excersize a little. Then I got addicted to losing weight and I kept losing and losing. Then I realized something was wrong with me. I am now terrified of touching a morsel of food. This NOT the case with everyone. Everyone has different causes


kat 5 years ago

I just don't know who orwhat i am anymore,ten years ago,i started on a path, i went from135 llbs to 105 llbs in 2-3 months,i did nt do it on purpose,one day i was ok ,it crept on me, i thought i was fine, i had become obsessed,i found pro ana sites an i got in deeper and my mum somehow pulled me out,but its never really left, i have children now amhappily married,i find that im constantly back and for months im fine,then im not for months o eat properly,for months i resrestrict,take laxatives, pro ana, im in a ten year on off cycle, feel like a ED fake caught in a start stop cycle,i don't want it but i don't know who id b without it,i love my famiky,i am not pro ana but use the sites,i feel guilty ,aaaah i don't know x


Tiny? Tim 5 years ago

http://fantasyfeeder.com/cms/index.php

I'd rather spend time here ^

I've seen both sides of the coin. Anorexia, and Obesity.

And frankly, i'd rather be overweight than underweight.

the fact that there are sites promoting the wasting away of the human body is absolutely horrific. The link i posted is not much better, promoting obesity, but at least the body doesn't look as if its going to break at any given moment. I have a friend named Taryn who looks like one of those Thinspirational pictures. And everybody looks at her and feels sorry for her because she looks so unhealthy, whereas they look at me, weighing in at a 225 and they tell me I look healthy compared to when i was all skin and bones. Maybe its because I'm a guy, but either way, it shows that even in a society where fat is called the enemy, it is less of an enemy than becoming a living skeleton.

And in human instincts, men look for curvy women because instinctively, its better for the species. Women with weight to them are fertile, more able to nurture children and so thats why men always look as the breasts or bottoms of women, when they have that curvy figure, it will attract men on a subconscious level. Even if they're not willing to admit it.


Gabriella 5 years ago

I have a ed. I see a therapist , i go to the docs every week to get my labs done. But I made it clear to them just becuz u have a some fucking paper that indicates that you know what your talking about. Could mean shit too me. I am goin to keep losing weight til i feel comfortable with my body. these "specialist" haven't been in my shoes nor anyone else who has an ED. this is what gets me by this is what makes me happy yeah i know its not the best way to do it BUT IT WORKS FOR ME i love that my bones show i love that my pants size gets lower & lower and my waist keeps shrinking. my happiness is defined b that number on the scale and am okay with it. YES some days its hell cant go out the house because i feel this or that or have breakdowns and constantly have weight on my mind. but theses are the consequences I am willing and face daily . it makes me feel i hav control over something. this is my body im going to do what feels right to me. I don't understand why theses "specialist" don't understand this. they need to be worrying about obesity. it kills millions and yet I was lock up for my disorder? what abunch of bullshit.


Why? 5 years ago

To everyone arguing;;

This is going nowhere. Everyone is allowed there opinion and obviously, people feel very strongly about this.

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I personally don't believe I have an ED but I do limit the food I eat strictly and feel very guilty when I eat a lot. So, I do know how it feels. I hate it. I wish I could change it, but its hard. Im only 13, but age doesn't matter.

Also, I agree w/ both sides of this argument. Ana and anorexia nervousa are similar but quite different. Anorexia is a mental disorder, where you obessesively starve or severely limit your food. Bulimia is where you binge and purge. Both are done complusively. Its not juss affects your body, but your mind. On the other hand, Pro Ana and Pro mia is a choice; almost like a lifestyle. They know that its potientally dangerous, but they take the risk. Most of them appear the be wannarexics but some of them are legit. I think that anorexia and bulimia are NOT are good thing at all. If you have it, you should get help from a proffesional. But Pro Ana and Pro Mia to a certain degree is a good thing. Obesity is problem, and medical condition. If you don't take it to extremes, and a realitively safe, its can be great. And almost all the pro ana and prio mia sites do offer links or support and recorvery.

And im not tryin to attack either sides, Im allowed my opinion. Please take take both sides into consideration.

P.S. This topic is very sensitive, and me personally, hate it when people judge me or wut I do w/out knowin everything or nit knowing wut Im going through. This should only be discussed by proffesionals and people who know wut this all feels like.

Love, Tabitha


Dana 5 years ago

I really don't think people without anorexia and bulemia can understand the lives of people with them.


gracry 101 5 years ago

its not a choice its a life style but theres not so much life in the style there living


imissy101 5 years ago

This topic is a very debatable and can have many different point of views. I do think people are fast to judge on each other without knowing what the other feels like. I do think that pro-ana and pro-mia sites make sure people are aware of the dangers, and that this could be a lifestyle. On the other hand, this is a "disease" because it can kill, or harm you. It can be very scary to others who don't look at it the way ana's or mia's do, but it is their choice.


Sarah Marie 4 years ago

To think that anyone understands what a girl or guy with anorexia, bulimia or any other eating disorder (EDNOS) is going through is completely insane. Even if you have the disorder, you still can't fully understand what your ED sisters/brothers are going through. It's a personal issue and a disorder, but it is not one to be criticized. A lot of the time, this very criticism is what drives people to having an eating disorder (not to forget about other cause such as rough family situations, troubled childhood, etc...) Yes, being a supporter of starvation can be very scary, but look at it from the other side's point of view. It's comforting. Finally, they can be strive to be good at one thing in life. They've found their calling. It might be a "terrible" goal in life to some, but to them it's what they want--no matter if it's caused by mental and physical imbalances. We all have issues that we wouldn't want anyone to criticize, and to pick on an a girl with an eating disorder is downright contradictory to the recovery you so wish for them to go through.

I've been terrified of admitting my own bulimic background because I feared that it would weaken my opinion and make me feel just as bad as this article did. I know you were trying to bring awareness to a disorder that can be life threatening and scarring, but the next time you raise awareness to any sort of issue as this, please be nicer instead of putting your foot down on something no one truly understands. You may think we are wrapped up in our eating disorders--some are, but a lot of us have normal lives combating with these eating disorders. I love to crochet, draw, play the piano, read, catch up on Facebook--you know, "normal" human things. Yet whose to say that my love to exercise, desire to not eat and vomiting practices are wrong? Not someone who hasn't gone through them or someone who has. There are so many more life threatening things than just an eating disorder, but the "average" American can enjoy them freely. Smoking (lung cancer has killed both of my grandparents), sky diving, taking in any level of alcohol, stress and many more. Yet the one that most people, especially in America, don't recognize as life threatening is over-eating. Did you know that over-eating is an eating disorder, too? Yet you can go outside and see billboards, ads in magazines and virtually more people parked in front of a fast food restaurant than a gym and not think a thing of those proofs supporting over-eating. A lot more people die because of their weight than any other thing, and to make your "scary" emotion focused on only under-eating is to neglect the other more noticeable, more socially acceptable and more harmful problem of over-eating. I respect your opinion and I understand that you were just trying to bring awareness, but please include all sides of the spectrum next time. Everyone makes mistakes, but not everyone is willing to admit they might have been wrong. I apologize now if I came off as forward and crude. It was not what I was going for. Rather, I was going for providing all of the details that you and MANY OTHER people forget about when talking in eating disorders.

(For the comment made earlier) An eating disorder is not a direct way to commit suicide. It can be, but to make it a "token suicide" is speaking where someone's voice should be less heard and their ears should be more attentive. Alright, that's all.


123go 4 years ago

i think that since every person is different there are too many "opinions." a lot of people think they are right. but i honestly think the real question is . . "Is one strangers life really any of your business when u don't even know them?"


DaisyGrace 4 years ago

I've been bulimic and still struggle with body image at times...but you know what? FUCK EVERY MEDIA IMAGE THAT EVER TRIED TO MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH

I'm perfect exactly the way I am... healthy is my goal... dying to be thin isn't.


Echo Vanity 4 years ago

Actually, a lot of the sites do reconise ana/mia and diseases. A lot of them also offer support and safe environments where those who are not yet ready to seek help can discuss their emotions without feeling judged. Yes these quotes are scary-to someone who doesn't have an e.d. How scary do you think it is to live your life by them? I'm bulimic and I am well aware this isn't a lifestyle. Though I may delibrately trigger myself I do not kid myself into thinking this was a choice. Nor is it about weight.A lot of the quotes refer to control and I crave that. The quotes are amazing to me. They keep me focussed, remind me why I am doing this (on some levels). The sites are also a reminder I'm not alone n this Hell inside my head. Thinspo and the quotes keep me sane. When you have lost everything to the disease the disease is all you have left- its terrifying to consider letting go of it. You can't judge these sites or the people who rely on them, whi believe what they preach. Unless you have an e.d. Unless you can understand why and how we think. The last thing we need is more people judging.

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