Just Because You Believe in God, does not mean he will cure you of mental illness, or that you are unworthy!

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Sometimes Medication Is Necessary No Matter What People Tell You

How many times, have well meaning friends of mine, who are Bible belivers and wonderful, helpful, supportive Christians, say to me, "If you just pray more, and trust God..."

Let me say, once again, and for the first time on Hubpages:

Mental Illness is a Physical ILLNESS, of the brain. It is a physical lack of serotonin or dopamine brain chemicals which affect our mood and our mind.

You would not tell someone with cancer to stop taking their treatment, expecting God to cure them? No, God does not cure EVERYONE , ALL the Time. But yes, I'm sure He does sometimes.

Point is, God can be an incredible part of our cure, an incredible part of hope, being uplifted, and actual grace pouring from Heaven. Yes, praying and reading the Bible, and trusting God are key in any struggle, but it WILL NOT cure you.

Sick people need medicine.

This is why, I take my medication, and WHY, when I feel horrible, depressed, anxious, desperately desperate in whichever way, I DO NOT RELY ON PRAYER ONLY. I MUST help myself in order to get the help I need. (God leads me to this.) So, for those who believe that prayer alone will cure, it is not so. Just so you know.

We as humans, we are not islands. We need alot of people to keep us happy...most of us...we need family, friends, social workers, etc. The more support the better, AA meetings, divorce meetings, therapy, etc.

God helps those who help themselves. Whatever our issues/problems are, be it relationship, sick family, mental illness, physical illness, we need to take responsibility, believe in ourselves, and work on a solution. God will help us, but we need to help ourselves too.

So, if you have depression, or anxiety, and people are telling you to "just get over it", know that you can, but it may take prayer and medicine.

God bless!

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the clean life 5 years ago from New Jersey Shore

Excellent hub and so true. it is wonderful to believe in God as I do for sure and you are right that he alone can not cure everything without the help of other things such as medicine and therapy if needed. He will help you along in your decisions and guide you if you only ask him for his help. I wrote a hub on god help those that help themselves and he has helped me and gave me the strength and determination to overcome my alcohol addiction and I wrote on that subject also. So thank you for sharing this hub with us and stay in touch if you can.

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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

You are very right if God didn't invent medicine we wouldn't be healed, so in some instances those that need it should by all means embrace it, and if they are able to be healed without than they should embrace it. But God heals in many different ways with and without medication. Prayer is not always answered the way some christians believe it should be. They are wrong to play doctor when they are not in control of the events, and not God himself. They should understand that God works in his ways, not their ways.


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breakfastpop 5 years ago

It's always a combination of medicine and a strong belief system that works best.


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

@thecleanlife,

Thankyou so much for your support, and I'm glad God helps you overcome alcohol in your recovery. It is really important to draw on strenth from God, Psalm 23,The Lord is my Shepard, I shall not want, He maketh me to lie down in green pastures, He restoreth my soul, Though I walk thru the valley in the shadow of death, thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me!


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

Hi HattieMattieMay,

Your right, God did invent medicine! Thanks for posting and reading. :-)


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

Thanks breakfastpop,

I'm back in business, and I hope I get a chance to visit all of you. Thanks so much for stopping and showing your support!


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain

So be it.

I fully understand where you are coming from, but your words tell me of a god who is powerless to cure a chemical deficiency, so I cannot think that this is the same God who raised the dead, gave sight to the blind and defeated ALL the power of the enemy.

Matthew 8 7:13

....Jesus said to him, I will come and restore him.

But the centurion replied to Him, Lord, I am not worthy or fit to have You come under my roof; but only speak the word, and my servant boy will be cured.

For I also am a man subject to authority, with soldiers subject to me. And I say to one, Go, and he goes; and to another, Come, and he comes; and to my slave, Do this, and he does it.

When Jesus heard him, He marveled and said to those who followed Him who adhered steadfastly to Him, conforming to His example in living and, if need be, in dying also], I tell you truly, I have not found so much faith as this with anyone, even in Israel.

I tell you, many will come from east and west, and will sit at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven,

While the sons and heirs of the kingdom will be driven out into the darkness outside, where there will be weeping and grinding of teeth.

Then to the centurion Jesus said, Go; it shall be done for you as you have believed. And the servant boy was restored to health at that very moment.

Do you understand this..."it shall be done for you as you have believed" ?

When we refuse to believe, when we cannot trust in God, we create the authority for the enemy to attack us, and have no protection, after all our own words condemn us.

"it shall be done for you as you have believed"..... we believed and our daughter was cured from epilepsy, it took time for the cure to take effect, and we needed to keep believing and declaring her healing, but the enemy had to leave her alone when we refused to give him the victory by limiting God.

I am not trying to attack you or your hub, I am standing against the lies that the enemy persuades us to be truth, that are NOT truth, and which I have seen proven to be untrue, when I have seen, witnessed and experienced what the secular world calls 'miracles', and trusting believers calls the power of God.

Delete this is you wish, it is written for you personally, discuss this with me if you need to, I will stand behind you in faith, trusting God to release you from this dis-ease.

God can do anything, if we will allow Him to do so.

"it shall be done for you as you have believed" - So believe, and if your faith is weak, stand on this verse.

Mark 9:23-24 (Amplified Bible)

And Jesus said, [You say to Me], If You can do anything? [Why,] all things can be (are possible) to him who believes!

At once the father of the boy gave [an eager,piercing, inarticulate] cry with tears, and he said, Lord, I believe! [Constantly] help my weakness of faith!


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Joy56 5 years ago

got it in...... god is not going to come down and take this thorn in the flesh away. He will help you to cope, and of course that may be with the aid of medication, etc etc.... I hear you loud and clear, great hub keep writing.


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

Agua, understand your view as I am christian too, but fortunately God works the way he wants to work in peoples lives. Some peoples bodies and chemistries are messed up and need medication whether it is depression, heart problems, diabetes, etc. You can actually kill a person when you convince them they don't need medication and just to pray. I would advise you to go study to be a doctor, or psychologist, and that determine if it's right force religion as the answer!


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

The other thing is if God didn't create technology, and medicine and seeing as if has advanced over the century you can say people are living stronger and healthier lives. They are having longer lifespans, where in the 1800's and before people didn't always live past 30-50years old.


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain

HattieMattieMae, I'm not for one instance suggesting that folk stop taking medicines prescribed for them, nor that doing so is showing weak faith, I have taken pills for blood pressure myself, but also sought God with faith that He would lead me to change the matter, or change it for me, and now I have needed to reduce the dosage to half, for my BP started to get TOO LOW on the prescribed dosage.... will God cure my BP totally, well that's Gods choice or not.

What I do state is that we must never believe that there is anything God cannot do.... there may be many thing He chooses NOT to do, but nothing is impossible with God.


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

Oh yes, aquasilver, of course God CAN do anything, but as hattiemattie says, we can't expect him to, we should pray for it, and then be open to His will.

Thanks so much for the comments everyone ! :)


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

Apologize, must have just been my interpretation, thought maybe you were saying that medication was totally out!


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f_hruz 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Hello folks!

Since there are no gods in the real world, why do you folks wast your time creating aimless hope praying to non-existing things? That's a mental defect in itselfe.

Man made drugs - no gods could ever have made them because there are non! The medical use of natures gifts to the world goes back to the time when man thought fire was a god!

Your religious mental and emotional defects can be cured with a bit of education ... try the natural sciences for starters!

Franto in Toronto


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

hmm...well in your world I guess there is no God, but in our world there is, so we will let you live in your reality, and you let us live in ours, and we can agree to disagree, and than will all live happily ever after!


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

Thankyou HattieMattieMae;)


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

No problem, and your welcome!


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Jeremey 5 years ago from Arizona

I have a friend who is considered scizophrenic. Three months ago he lost his medical coverage, so no more meds. He now commits himself all day to nothing but bible reading, writing prayers over and over, and preaching to all those he comes in contact with. His bible study study group and pastor all keep telling him have faith and pray continuously. He has since had three "breakdowns' where he has become an exorcist of sorts trying to in one swift moment cleanse all that inhabit the earth. All have become 'evil' to him and he has even brought physical harm to his friends and loved ones. Your hub rings true in my opinion, I have been punched in the face by his mental illness!


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

That is normal behavior for scizophrenics. They just ramble on about what ever they are focused on, it should not be determined by that situation, but I can consider if you are around him a lot that it may becoming tiredsome and overwhelming. I have a friend like that too, but I understand he is not well. Think you have to keep that in mind, he can not control it, and fortunately there is a difference between someone who is mentally ill, and healthy preaching the word of God.


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain

"I have been punched in the face by his mental illness!" whereas I would counter, from the evidence I have seen in similar circumstances, that you were punched in the face by a demonic spirit that held or had been give authority over him. His bible study shows all the classic signs of a compulsive addictive personality, and from what you say his church group have no real idea of deliverance ministry.... so we have the blind leading the blind, and we all know what happens next.

Meds do NOT deal with the problem, they ONLY treat the manifestations by subduing the victim sufficiently that the manifestations occur less often.

If you had a heart problem, you would seek out a cardiologist, not someone to give you a pain killer to mask the pain.

Likewise when you have a spiritual problem, you need someone who can deal with the problem, not just the symptoms.


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fred allen 5 years ago from Myrtle Beach SC

A very wise man once said that we are to pray as though everything depended on God and to ACT as though everything depended on us. I agree with Aguasilver in his understanding of the might and power of God. I also agree that it would be foolish to stop taking your medication. I will cry with you. I will pray for you. I will believe in a miracle. I believe every word of God. I know He is able. I know He is willing, yet still you suffer, I know not why. I stand on His promises. Expect a miracle!


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Jaymeyaroch 5 years ago from Somewhere between today and yesterday.

God gave us the knowledge to create these medicines, why would he not want us to use them to benefit our bodies and minds so that we can continue to benefit His Light and His World?


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain

Hi Jaymeyaroch, mainly because He actually wants to heal us, not keep us in suspension, dangling over a pit of depression or mental illness.

I have stated clearly that using chemical meds to stave off a danger UNTIL we can be healed by God is acceptable, but there was a line to be drawn when someone (the author) declared that God is powerless to deal with these things.... your local branch of Churchianity may be powerless, but Christ and God can do ALL things.

I make the distinction, that's all.


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

Hi aquasilver,

I'm not going to argue with you, that is not what this hub nor my beliefs are about. I said that God alone cannot cure mental illness but not meaning literally, of course He can, I meant he will not necessarily cure it- that we cannot expect Him to, so sorry if I worded it wrongly.

Yes I know he can and often will but we should let others know that just because we become saved /Christians, not all our illness, cancer, depression, flu, etc is going to disappear altogehter, for these crosses are how God helps us get to heaven so we pray to him and are constantly reminded how weak we are.

Thankyou!


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

hmm where is the pesticide! lol

Or the fly swatter! I feel for you school girl! I'm with you though!


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain

Perfectly clearly clarified schoolgirlforreal, and I thank you, that is all I wanted to make clear, God CAN do anything, and we are now clear, apologies for being a pesky pedant, guess it's my English mentality.

HattieMattieMae, you can stop searching for the swatter, my pestilence is now ceased.

John


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

Thankyou so much, aquasilver!!


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lyricsingray. 5 years ago from the impossible

okay officially in love with you now

kim


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HattieMattieMae 5 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

Ok aguasilver I forgive you! ha ha! :)


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain

Whew, I can stop looking over my shoulder!

Kim, if you were talking to me, WOW, if to schoolgirl or Hattie, hmmmmm....

Thanks!

john


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

Thankyou Kim!! You are someone I admire, so it's nice to have you on my page. I appreciate the comment :)

Thanks HattieMattieMae lol for stopping in again ;)

Hi aquasilver, lol I like your avatar btw, interesting :) btw, perhaps kim loves me as a friend lol but I'll take whatever love comes my way ;)

Nice to know you by name, John;) TTYL


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heavenbound5511 5 years ago from Under the shadow of the Almighty God!

Hi Schoolgirl.

I as a Christian would not tell you to "just pray more, and trust God..." as you have said.

There is a lot more to be in relationship with God than that. So you have problems with depression and mental illness. So in short you have an affliction, a torment, an illness, an infirmity, and you need deliverance and healing from this bondage. Also can be described as a attack from the enemy.

The Bible doesn't just say pray and trust and you will stand strong and be well.EPh 6:10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles(schemes) of the devil.

12For we wrestle(fight,war) not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. In Eph 6 it goes through all the different parts of the armor and each piece represents something different. For it explained in more detail >>http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Put-your-A...

"and having done all, to stand."

We are to do more than pray and trust even though these two are very important to a close walk with God.

We must study His word.

We must be striving to do right.

We must take authority over the things that we have a right to in Jesus name through prayer and directly speaking too say the spirit of depression.

Not only saying leave in Jesus name - but also reading those scriptures that promise you freedom in Christ, from bondage, torment, also study healing and read theses out loud when you are having problems.

There are many Psalms on being depressed and low also.

Praise and worship God if you want to or have to do it as a sacrifice. That's what it can be called to do those things in honor to God when it's hard, or you do not want to.

Fasting in Is 58 Is to loose the bands of wickedness, to set the captives free, to restore your health, it strengthens the inner man. Fasting also helps us stand against temptation as is an example of Jesus fasting 40 days and forty nights against temptation In Matt 4.

This is what we are also to do in order to stand and for deliverance. Also Jesus said when the disciples couldn't cast the demon out of the boy- He said it was because of there unbelief. Jesus said this can only leave through prayer and fasting in Matt 17.

We must be totally submitted to God and resist the devil at the same time- and then the devil will flee in James 4:7.

We are not to give any room for satan to come in and steal, kill and destroy us. When we have a problem there has to be an open door in most cases. Either through known sin, our own ignorance from lack of knowledge, generational curses that have not been brought before God to have the sins of your ancestors forgiven by in Jesus name, and also for ours.

In order to have deliverance from an affliction that we have allowed to come in from sin- we must first repent, turn away from the sin, stop doing it. If we don't know what the cause is than pray and ask God to reveal it to you in Jesus name. Usually whatever He makes you remember is what you need to seek Him for. Like unforgiveness of who ever or even yourself.

Not that we won't make mistakes but we must be continuing to grow and learn by putting God first and seeking Him in the way He ask us to. Doing the things he ask us to. Not religion but a real relationship with open communication with God- which comes when you step out in faith and do and believe. God does step in to take us deeper into Him. His people perish for the lack of knowledge.http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Attacking-...

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Mind-O...

One last thought : Also there's nothing wrong with taking medication to help you while seeking God.

I was told when seeking deliverance that God and His presence was like antibotics- the longer you take them the better you get. This is so true! Be encouraged and God bless you!

JOHN 8:31-32

31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.

32 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."

Abide means to live, to continue, or to spend time somewhere.

If you continue to spend time in Jesus' Word -- you will know the truth.

When you know the truth, you will act on that knowledge -- and acting on the truth will make you free!


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schoolgirlforreal 5 years ago from USA Author

hi heavenbound5511,

your thoughts interest me of course as I am a bible believer...I never thought I could be cured so to speak by doing it, I thought you know it's God's choice like cancer or heart surgery , I see it as a chemical imbalance, a physical illness that needs meds. but I see your points, that one can definitely be uplifted. As for a cure, I can try to do that...perhaps you're right but I wont'get off medication that's for sure unless God heals me and I cannot expect Him to as I could not expect him to heal me of cancer, though I would (and will continue) ask-ing.

Thankyou, your words are alot to think on, I do like the many things you said and I belive all is possible with God and that what you mentioned are good ideas


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schoolgirlforreal 4 years ago from USA Author

to heaven bound,

my testimony:

as of Dec 26, 2009- soon to be my 2nd anniversary,

I was saved.

Since that very day I was uplifted and continued to be. I joined a church. I was able to rid myself of toxic people. I was able to heal mentally with new medicine. I've gotten my life back, my social life back, I'm working part time, and my father passed and I'm handling it all, well.

Without God I could not have done any of that, as before I was saved I was much weaker.

Praise Jesus.


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain

schoolgirlforreal that's a great testimony, and as you move closer still to God, you will no doubt be able to give many more, I pray for your complete restoration in Gods hands.

Thanks,

John

PS. Note the new avatar!


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schoolgirlforreal 4 years ago from USA Author

Thanks again aqua :) yes you have aqua on your avatar lol! You are a wise one and valuable in my heart. Thankyou dear.


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain

Es nada, que son especiales para mi corazón también!

John

(sorry, feeling a bit Spanish tonight, melancholy and hoping to see Spain again soon!)


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schoolgirlforreal 4 years ago from USA Author

@Heavenbound,

Your long response was so full of wisdom and helpfulness. I have overcome much since I was born again 2 yrs ago. It's a hard struggle and often the worst pain brings the greatest results.

Thanks again!

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