Restless Legs Syndrome (RLS)

An introduction: Do you find that after you have settled down in bed at night, and have dropped off to sleep, that after a short time or maybe several hours later, you have been woken by a tingling in your legs? Is that feeling not perhaps an ache, but an unexplained discomfort?Is there a feeling of surging and irritation in your legs that almost feels as if you have been invaded by a nest of ants that have set up home inside your muscles and aim to stay there? Do you find it impossible to keep your legs still, and whatever you do, you feel you have to stretch them and move them? Is there a feeling as if there is an electric current coursing through your calves as if you have become some sort of electric appliance that is about to fuse itself?

Some people describe the feelings as itching, tingling, crawling, gnawing or simply painful and can range from being quite mild to severe. Or “tingling, jitteriness, a creepy crawly feeling, itching, or pulling.

Usually it appears in the calf area, but can be almost anywhere in the lower body.

Not only are the signs and symptoms of Restless Legs Syndrome (RLS) different from person to person, they can be tricky to explain. Some describe the leg sensations as “creeping,” “prickling,” “burning,” “tingling,” or “tugging”. Others say it feels as if bugs are crawling up their legs, a fizzy soda is bubbling through their veins, or they have a “deep bone itch.”

You toss and turn for awhile, but eventually the urge to move is overwhelming. You get out of bed to stretch and pace the floor and, for a moment, you find relief. But when you lie down again, the restless sensations in your legs start all over.


Are these symptoms familiar?

If some of these symptoms apply to you, you probably have Restless Legs Syndrome.

It sounds vaguely amusing, doesn’t it? Restless legs?Like “itchy feet”, the old expression meaning that you have a desire to travel. A friend used to refer to it as wandering legs (Ha ha ha! – No I don’t think so). It is a condition that very many people may suffer from, but thankfully, in many cases, is so slight that they hardly notice it. Then again there are some who suffer so severely that it has been said that suicide has been considered by those who suffer from the affliction.

Suicide?

Suicide? “Rubbish,” you say, “Why would anybody consider doing something so extreme over a bit of tickling in the legs?”

But the whole point of this is that it is almost impossible to sleep, unless their condition is of the mildest form.

If you don’t have RLS, or know anyone who does, perhaps you cannot even begin to understand what it is like to go to bed, tired after a hard day’s work, or even “put your feet up for few Zzzzzzs” and find that within a short time you are wide awake, with this obnoxious throbbing or fizzing in your legs and feet. Some poor souls even have it in the arms and back as well as the legs!

Remember, there are countries in this world that still practice torture, and although the rack, the gibbet, the thumbscrew and a host of other distasteful and bestial machines of torture may not now be in constant use, there is a very effective method of torture available to man almost at the touch of a switch, and that torture is simple sleep deprivation. RLS leads to sleep deprivation. End of!

But where does it come from?

As yet, no one seems to know conclusively.

Several young ladies obviously experiencing RLS, but showing a cheerful demeanour through their suffering

I am not a doctor, neither do I have any medical knowledge, so I can only speak on a personal level and provide, where necessary, anecdotal evidence referring to myself, and to my experiences of RLS.

I have quoted here, another friend who has suffered from RLS in the past. We exchanged comments about it by e-mail, and you will understand that although I am one of the many in the world who suffers from it, I only know one other who will admit to being a fellow sufferer.

She is Svetlana Ivanova, a good friend, and a great writer - kallini2010 - read her and you will be thrilled by her style and talents. I stand in awe of her.

I asked her if I could quote her and she agreed, saying:

“You don't have to ask my permission for quoting - use my words any time you want - once released I don't own them.

“I don't really remember where we discussed it, but I have a suspicion it was in our e-mail exchange. You are right - it was a three hour long flight from Calgary to Toronto and I had the folly of choosing a window seat (never again!) - and I thought I was going insane - probably the person in front of me had the same sentiments.

“I don't suffer from RLS now, but it can come back any time. I think it all has to do with the nervous system, like a tendency to grind teeth when stressed. I did that, too. Overall, being obsessive-compulsive is no fun.”

Robert Louis Stevenson

Oops! Before I go any further, I want to clear up any misunderstandings that may have arisen by my use of those three magical letters: RLS.

RLS also refers to some Victorian Scots bloke who wrote books and stuff. If you, like I, read ‘Treasure Island’ when you were a little lad - or even if you were a little girl, you might remember that on the cover, under the title: ‘Treasure Island’ there was the name: Robert Louis Stevenson .

He was the bloke that wrote the book, and as far as I know, he didn’t suffer from Restless Legs Syndrome, although he had some right dodgy characters in his story, who may have, but I have no way of verifying that.

There was a nasty Sea Captain called Long John Silver who only had one leg, so he could only have had Restless LEG Syndrome, if he had it at all; another nasty piece of work called Black Dog, who wasn’t a dog, but was a bloke; Ben Gunn who was barking mad (but he wasn't a dog either, but he sounded like one); and a parrot called Captain Flint who was named after another Sea Captain who had died earlier in the Story. I don’t know if parrots are prone to RLS, so perhaps I’ll have a look into it.

If you’ve read the book, you’ll know that nearly everybody gets murdered or whatever in the story, so maybe Robert Louis Stevenson did have RLS (Restless Legs Syndrome) because he had been kept awake all night and he was in a nasty mood because he couldn’t sleep. And that’s not all. He also wrote ’‘Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde’,Kidnapped’ and ‘Catriona’ and a lot of other stuff about people being nasty to other people.

It could explain a lot.

Back to RLS (the legs thingy).

It is a central nervous system disorder that is characterized by uncomfortable sensations in the legs, often resulting in an uncontrollable urge to move the legs.

It’s sometimes known as: Willis-Ekbom disease

I don’t understand these things, but apparently it could be that sufferers have a deficiency in dopamine - a chemical that carries signals between the nerve cells in the body responsible for controlling movement.

Dopamine. It's the basis for our desires, our drives and our needs. The chemical which keeps us going. Drives us to procreate; the basis of our whole ethos: shopping, obsessions, computer games, orgasm, alcohol, nicotine and gambling addiction. The rewards and aspirations of our whole being. This mechanism within the reward centre of the primitive brain, in all mammals

Dopamine is behind a lot of the desire we associate with eating and sexual intercourse. Similarly, many addictive drugs trigger dopamine (the "craving neurochemical") to stimulate the pleasure reward centre.

Here’s an interesting fact:

The first known medical description of RLS was by Sir Thomas Willis in 1672.

Willis (1621–1675) is considered to be the founder of clinical neuroscience and is most famous for his description of the "circle of Willis", the arterial circle at the base of the brain. His contributions to the understanding of the human brain and medical science were extensive and revolutionary at the time. Known to be a keen observer of his patients' symptoms, Willis emphasized the sleep disruption and limb movements experienced by sufferers of RLS. Initially published in Latin (De Anima Brutorum, 1672) but later, perhaps because there weren’t any Romans hanging around in England any more, he decided to translate it into English (The London Practice of Physick, 1685).

Willis wrote:

"Wherefore to some, when being abed they betake themselves to sleep, presently in the arms and legs, leapings and contractions on the tendons, and so great a restlessness and tossings of other members ensue, that the diseased are no more able to sleep, than if they were in a place of the greatest torture.

Source: Wikipedia

Gosh!

That was the bit written in English. It was hard enough to understand in English, and to all intents and purposes, I'm an English speaking person. All I can say is that it's a good thing he changed his mind and didn't leave it in Latin. The English was Dutch to me.

But I digress.

Anyway… enough of History.

The most likely time to experience RLS is during periods of inactivity, for example, when lying in bed, sitting watching television, sitting at a desk working, or riding in a car.

At night, even when the subject manages to get some sleep, there occurs involuntary bending and jerking of the legs – sometimes briefly, and at other times for more prolonged periods, usually causing the person to wake up. This is no fun for the sufferer, and certainly very annoying for his or her bed partner.

It is estimated that between 7% and 10% of Americans and Europeans will have the condition, and that the incidence can increase in later life.

There have been suggestions that there is some connection between Restless Legs Syndrome and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).And what were known as “growing pains” in children, were perhaps due to RLS.Or what is now referred at as “hyperactivity”.

Charley horse:

Many people confuse restless legs Syndrome with a "charley horse"; a popular North American colloquial term for painful spasms or cramps.

Believe me, this is not a charley horse, but one would be welcome. To be experiencing RLS and suddenly find that my legs have started to cramp, can be a relief, because the cramp is usually diminished or removed by a cramp. Charley Horse negates the RLS and sometimes I am able to get some sleep afterwards.

Some, even in the Medical fraternity, believe that RLS was created by the big drug companies, and that the “chicken came after the egg”.

“As with many diseases with diffuse symptoms, there is controversy among physicians as to whether RLS is a distinct syndrome. The U.S.National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke published an information sheet characterizing the syndrome but acknowledging it as a difficult diagnosis. Physicians consider it a real entity that has specific diagnostic criteria.

Many doctors express the view that the incidence of Restless Legs Syndrome is exaggerated by manufacturers of drugs used to treat it. Others believe it is an under-recognized and under-treated disorder. Some of the controversy results from the fact that certain pharmaceutical companies used medical representatives (i.e., salespeople) to perform investigations into the treatment of RLS even though those companies had no licensed treatments for the condition. Further, Glaxo Smith Kline ran advertisements that, while not promoting off-license use of their drug (ropinirole) for treatment of RLS, did link to the Ekbom Support Group website.


Just a few of the many, many things that can trigger RLS. (In me, of course. I can only tell of how it affects me.)

After a drive especially as a passenger

After exercise Ha! What’s that?

Alcoholism.I don’t drink (Please ignore the statement under Vin Rouge lower down, about the efficacy of wines… or not)

Anaemia - a deficiency of red blood cells would perhaps make a subject more susceptible to RLS, but iron tablets make one constipated, and constipation often brings on the condition

Animals in proximity (fur and soft fabrics) If one of those cat things rubs against my legs in that obsequious, creepy way that cats have.

And a few more... but I haven't finished

Cheap carpets. Without being a snob, I will not, and can not, visit anyone whose carpets and rugs are not pure wool. Or else the static electricity in the floor coverings make me feel as if I am carrying several hundred volts of electricity in my legs.

Coffee anyone? One of the first things one is told is to steer clear of caffeine. But if I have RLS, frequently an energy drink (Red Bull full of Taurine and Caffeine) gives me relief. And I love coffee and can't abide that decaffeinated stuff. Eeuch!

Cosy and cuddly underfoot;: Just to have a warm, soft carpet underfoot makes me feel as if I have an electric current passing through my legs. It is so serious that I have had all but three of my rooms tiled underfoot. Ten of the rooms in my house have been tiled. That includes the two bathrooms, the lavatory and the kitchen of course. Cool hard floors make it less likely for me to experience RLS.

Cotton Underwear: If I were to wear any man made fibres next to my skin, I think I would spontaneously combust, the RLS would be so severe. So nylon underwear would be an absolute NO!!! (Well of course it would. Good taste never dies!)

Hot, cold, warm, cool. Help. I’m drowning: Some people advocate a warm bath, or a cold bath, or a cool shower, or a hot shower. It is not much fun getting up in the middle of the night and having one (or all of these) and what are the dangers of the RLS sufferer shrinking with all the excess water being splashed around?

Peripheral Neuropathy: Neuropathy - a disease of the peripheral nerves that is marked by muscle weakness, pain, and numbness. Got it. Not much fun, either.

And this is about it... bar the wriggling!

Pregnancy - About one in four women will experience transitory RLS during pregnancy. It normally appears during the third trimester, peaks during the seventh and eight months of pregnancy and disappears after delivery. Not really applicable, as I don’t aim to become pregnant in the very near future.

Self medication: I have discovered that a couple of co-codamol or co-dydramol will help to push it away, if I am having a “really bad bout”. So in the cinema, I always make sure I have a blister pack of co-codamol and a can of energy drink (Caffeine and Taurine) and although it says, “Lay off the caffeine” it works wonders for me.

The medication that works best with me is Ropinerole.

Dopaminergic agents enhance the action of dopamine in the brain and are some of the most favoured drugs for treating Restless Legs Syndrome. Many of these drugs are already well known and approved for the treatment of Parkinson's disease - ropinirole (Requip).

Vin Rouge: Red wine has been suggested as a trigger for RLS. But it has also been suggested that a glass of decent red wine, once a day, perhaps at night, would be efficacious. It would have to be Chateaux Mouton Rothschild Pauillac 1986, or perhaps if a white would help, a Dom Perignon.

Rest triggers the symptoms: Leg pain is usually trigged by activity and relieved by rest, but with Restless Legs Syndrome, the reverse is true. Restless leg symptoms start, or become worse, when you’re sitting, relaxing, or trying to rest.


You must be joking

There are many varied and bizarre cures for many varied and bizarre complaints, but I like this one: Many say that it works, so why not give it a try.

Place a bar of soap (tablet of soap) under the bottom sheet of your bed and you should get a restful night. No restless legs, but I can assure you, not too comfortable if you roll onto it.

I tried it, and it worked for a couple of nights, and when I rang the friend who suggested it, she said that perhaps I should replace the soap every few days. That’s a hell of a lot of soap.

Perhaps it was just the placebo effect, but apart from working only briefly, that soap developed sharp corners in the middle of the night.

Another cure:

However, searching through Google for more information about “bizarre” cures, I was entertained to discover that sexual practices of one kind or another has been known to alleviate the condition. I think this comes into the category of “self help”.

Obviously, if a release of dopamine occurs, this would be a useful standby, in case one ran out of the usual prescription drugs; Ropinerole, Gabapentin etc..

Even if these methods do work, whether or not it's the dopamine or the fun of it all, that is helping, remains to be seen. But in the meantime, though no one would want someone with Restless Leg to go off their medication, it might be worth trying the sex and seeing what happens.

As an additional... er... therapy. I mean, what can it hurt?”

Sitting too long. Either watching television, or at the cinema.

This can bring on RLS, but I think it would be wiser to resort to a couple of co-codamol, washed down with a can of Red Bull energy drink (Caffeine and Taurine), rather than to do something, possibly less efficient, but which would be better done in the privacy of one's own home, than in a cinema.

The alternative could be a bit disconcerting for the other patrons.

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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

What a complete - and well-written - treatise on RLS, T.L. Thank you. Loved the cartoon at the end, too.


Becky 5 years ago

My husband has this. He will drive me crazy with his itchy legs and feet. He is sure he has bugs crawling on his legs and then he tells me he has bug bites on his legs. I believe it is somewhat related to poor circulation in him. He has diabetes and has poor circulation from it. The only thing he has found that helps is a bug spray with aloe in it. It help keep the itching down.


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

My legs did not hurt when I started reading your Hub. Ignorance is bliss. Now that I know, I will resort to my usual remedies. Two double scotch. My legs may still be effected, but I won't know.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

I was surprised to be the only one who admitted to having RLS. There is another sufferer - who just surfaced in your comments.

I agree that to understand the condition you have to experience it. I have never done any research on it, but the "dopamine deficiency" makes sense. I was depressed for the most part of my life. Then I was pregnant and so happy (the hormones were responsible for that). After childbirth I plunged into the depths of depression again. And before my son turned two (he was 18 months) I reached the level of depression that made me completely dysfunctional. After that my "bipolar trip" began. No RLS, but believe me it was no "fun" either. First I was almost throwing up taking anti-depressants, then... But again, you have to experience it to understand.

And suicide - I experienced it (the condition, not suicide, of course), as well. With this range of experiences, I value my relative health more now. Why do I so openly admit to my multiple conditions? Still a mystery to me.

You made me laugh: "sex cannot hurt". I think you are misinformed - it can, so practice carefully.

I sympathize with you for having this annoying malady - I always think that it can come back. Maybe not while I am on my drugs - mood stabilizers and anti-depressants. However, if I don't take my pills for the night, I can no longer fall asleep on my own until completely exhausted. Talk about the torture of sleep deprivation.


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A.A. Zavala 5 years ago from Texas

WHEW! I thought I was suffering form Rober Lewis Stevenson syndrome. The pose he had in your picture is the same one I had in the check out line at Walmart. Thank you for clarifying the RLS definition. I think I dodged a bullet.

My ex wife used to kill the hell out of me everynight in bed. She said she had RLS, but I think she was passive aggressive. One time I got in trouble because she had a dream that I was dating her friend. RLS my ass...

You will not cross cheap rugs due to the conductivity in your legs? Maybe you wear zinc coated anklets to ground the electrical charge? I only mention it because you may miss out on adventures simply because the venue has poor taste in decorating.


writeronline 5 years ago

TL, this is very illuminating, thankyou for posting it. I believe I may have a form of the condition; my entire right thigh feels as though it's got a permanent case of 'pins and needles', but at night especially,(all through the night) it's as if someone has just inserted them straight from a fire. The sensation of heat is intense; though not to the touch. That's just pure numbness.

The quandary for me is that I'm told (and you've also stated), that the condition can be exascerbated by long periods of inactivity, such as sitting at a desk.

Ever since I found HubPages, that describes how I spend significant amounts of my time (of which my avatar is accurately reflective).

My jaw has recently begun to ache too, almost locking up, (I've self-diagnosed it as TMJ) and I suspect it's because of concentrating hard and long on what I'm writing.

Fortunately, having read your informative piece, I feel I have two clear options: Stop Hubbing, or start masturbating.

What to do?

And how to change my avatar..?


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

I certainly feel mischievous today - Writeronline, even if you start masturbating, please choose the avatar that does not reflect the activity. For "stopping hubbing" - no avatar is necessary.


writeronline 5 years ago

Hey, kallini2010, don't be such a spoilsport! I was thinking about drawing up a new avatar today; just as soon as I stop moving my hands up and down in a rapid manner.

(Could it be 'restless hands syndrome'?

:)


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Depends on the speed, I suppose. I always thought it only required one hand, though. Can you use another for simultaneous sketching? That will be the highest pilotage... Unless... or don't... today I am in a naughty mood.

I don't think of myself as a Spoilsport. I am the Encouragement itself. I admire skill, imagination and the sense of humour (it does not come too often, no pun intended).

Jumping up and down to see the new avatar.

Up...

Down...

Up...

Down...

Up...

Down..

Up...


writeronline 5 years ago

"I always thought it only required one hand.."

I think that would depend on whether 'it' relates to the action, or to the object, kallini.

FYI, even though, in skilled hands, masturbation is an art, it's also a science, with quite a complex formula, involving hand span, object mass, girth, weight, speed and velocity, as well as dexterity; and critically, hand-eye co-ordination. I've heard that at advanced / Nirvana levels, snake-handling skills are a virtual necessity.

So it's a bit hard (sorry..) to sketch at the same time...

Would take your mind off your restless legs for a minute though, wouldn't it?

Oh, sorry, don't be jumping up and down too long awaiting the new avatar. As is often the case with us mere men, I'm afraid the weight of too much expectation has rather spoilt the moment for me....


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

I apologize for spoiling the moment. It was comforting to find a man who speaks about sex in the same terms as I do - in my latest hub "A man of my dreams" - there is exactly the same vocabulary - velocity ...

I would even imagine that you might be "The man of my dreams" (not possible, I refer to the article again), but I know that you are married.

On the other hand, it is nice to separate activities (since you mentioned nirvana), and enjoy each one to the fullest.

My apologies.


writeronline 5 years ago

Ah kallini, don't apologise, you've left me basking in the afterglow of our shared intimacy; hands still, jaw relaxed, legs un-restless.

After a 'post-interchange' nap, (the current avatar lives on), I'll rock over and read about the man of your dreams.

My regards.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you drbj. From the person who presents the most complete - and well-written - treatises on many, many subjects, that is a great compliment.

Thank you again.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I empathise and i sympathise, Becky. Poor chap. Everyone seems to experience it differently of they are unlucky enough to have it. And you know that he, but also you, suffer from it.

Thanks for reading my hub, and keeping in touch.

Ian


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Mike, I thought it was Irish Whisky that you liked. You seem to have the gift of words that the Irish are blessed with. Thanks for the visit, and your support.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, I am still smiling in embarrassment after your comment "You made me laugh: "sex cannot hurt". I think you are misinformed - it can, so practice carefully."

I should have written that a little more carefully. But it's the practice that's the fun... I promise to keep on practising till I get it right. Ha ha ha!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Augustine, if my dear mother had even imagined that I had frequented establishments like that she would have had to resort to the smelling salts.

"Keep your wicked pleasure at home, Dear," she would have admonished me,

I had an Aunt, a lady known to lead a fast and furious life in which excesses of pleasures of the flesh were always uppermost in her mine, yet even she could say with pride that never once in her long career had she even stood upon a nylon carpet, The best Baluch were her preference for a bit of horizontal tennis.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

WOL, I had to Google search TMJ. Strange. My jaw locks once in a while... open, not closed, which is a condition which most of my nearest and dearest enjoy. Apparently I have rather too much to say.

When I am concentrating, especially when drawing, I tend to stick the tip of my tongue out... It used to look cute when I was ten years old, but I think it may be a little past its sell-by-date on me now.

Your comment:

"Fortunately, having read your informative piece, I feel I have two clear options: Stop Hubbing, or start masturbating.

What to do?

And how to change my avatar..?"

I suggest you keep your avatar, and on the other two counts, you are in the best place to do both. You're in front of you computer screen, where else to go?

Go forward and enjoy!


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Mark Ewbie 5 years ago from Euroland

Useful, funny, informative, extensive. Pretty good effort Twilight. I don't suffer from it, but my wife does, which means I suffer through her. I may need to take your advice on the alchohol route.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

WOL and Svetlana, I have just read your exchanges, and I was smiling like child, and the odd giggle burst forth in a less than adult manner.

Thank you, you have really started my day so well.

By the way, friends, along with all the other requisites of " hand span, object mass, girth, weight, speed and velocity, as well as dexterity; and critically, hand-eye co-ordination" may I also point out that dexterity is important, but sinistrality (I just looked it up, I didn't know what the word was) is important for me, because I find that if I am buying mangoes or loose fruit in the supermarket, I try not to use my left hand because the avocados etc. feel bigger and better in the left, whereas my right hand is better for drawing and sensitive work or if I am preparing a meal.

Just a thought.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Attaboy, Mark. All in the name of research.

Now several people are coming out of the woodwork.

Hmm! I am not unique.

Someone once told me that sleeping with me was like sleeping with a cake mixer.


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attemptedhumour 5 years ago from Australia

Hi Ian, i knew you were a tosser, but didn't realise you had RLS too:) Seriously though i definitely suffered with RLS when i was younger. It's a sort of ache that is not painful, but just annoying. You feel compelled to move around. I loved your Robert Louis Stevenson aside, very funny mate. The RLS didn't seem to affect all my other faculties and fortunately it gradually went away. Oh well i must went away too. Cheers


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

I once suffered from TMJ from eating rice cakes. How dull can one get?


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Nikkij504gurl 5 years ago from Louisiana

this was very interesting and a bit funny hehe. i like the comic at the end :) lol so masturbation aye? hmm but wont that make your hand turn blue or get hairy or something like that as the old wives tales say? lol I think I may have a very slight, minor case of acute RLS lol my legs get itchy when i lay down to go to sleep at night, like all the time. but thats about it. i think its just cuz i have really dry sensitive skin, but it does seem to do it mostly when i am trying to sleep.


Becky 5 years ago

My dear husband gets up in the middle of the night and takes hot showers to ease the itch. Then I have to rub this lotion into his legs so they will not itch. At 2:00 in the morning.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

You are welcome, Ian, I was laughing yesterday, too.

Apparently, things can go wrong with any part of our body or any system. I have a habitual dislocation of jaw joint - maybe there is a term for that, it does not hurt, but once I went to the Central Institute of Dentistry not for that reason, though. The professor was so happy to see me and he was demonstrating my condition to forty of his students (I felt so "excited"!!!)

"You see, occlusion!" - occlusion is the only word that I remember not that I knew what it meant. And then he mercilessly took my jaw and fixed it. I could NOT chew or talk without excruciating pain for a month. The best part - it was the month I started learning English.

The teacher was asking us to do phonetic exercises - I don't know how I did not quit right there and then. English is unforgiving with articulation.

Sinistral? Sinistral or sinister?

Take objects in your left hand then. One of my lady acquaintances announced at every opportune and no so opportune moment:

"My breasts are of very different size. Oh, yes, they are!"

Maybe because she was examining them by different hands - maybe she needed to criss-cross to see that it all in the hands...

We are sinistral and asymmetrical and some of us clearly insane (speaking about myself), but still alive. Is it not the best part?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I hope you weren't using tosser as a pejorative term, Keith. Ha ha ha! As if you would.

It is an excruciating condition at times. Strangely enough, I am going to the cinema tonight. So if you hear of more riots in London on the ABC, and they are reporting riots in Wandsworth, it means I ran out of co-codamol and had to resort to the alternative cure!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Hello Nellieanna. I once almost suffered from flying about twenty metres above a London street from eating hash cakes, but that's another story.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thanks for coming to have a read, Nikki. I hope it isn't RLS... it is really awful.

By the way, I have just been out in the streets and alleyways of Olde London Towne and looked at the hands of as many Old Wives as I could track down, and none exhibited either blue or hairy hands,,, so maybe it's not true.

Ha ha ha!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

In that case, Becky, it's not clear who is suffering from RLS and who is just having a really bad time.

I have heard that some marriages have foundered on RLS, or people have just had to sleep in separate beds, or even rooms.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Your comments are always so intellectual, but very often side-splittingly funny, Svetlana.

I love the idea of your friend wopping her tits out in public and saying, "Look! This one is twice the size of this one" and then offering them around for people to have a feel. (Passing strangers, as well)

"Go on! " she will say, "Now with your left hand. Doesn't that feel bigger?" and then, to prove a point, going to the local greengrocer, wopping them out again, directly into his scales and weighing them.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian:

this is a criss-cross reference. I think you mentioned your fascination with meetings in your "Divo" hub and masturbation in this one, but there is goes, two together (I love the quote):

“Meetings are an addictive, highly self-indulgent activity that corporations and other large organizations habitually engage in only because they cannot masturbate”

~Dave Barry quotes

Too many people have Restless Brain Syndrome.

People are so fascinated with their body parts, some more than the others. I happened to say (I think so, I beg forgiveness from the male audience) - I don't like the hanging parts (breasts in most cases included).

There are only few people who are truly beautiful for some time in their lives and then it is best to cover the body to achieve the best visual effect.

On the other hand, covering up creates unhealthy curiosity and self-consciousness. If we were allowed to wop out anything and let it be touched and (whatever your imagination suggests), the interest would have died right there and then.

Danielism: he is not very fluent with either language, but here it goes. "Her swimming pants that go there (shows breasts area) do not cover it completely."

I said - "the swimming pants that cover breasts are called a bra". I wonder, will he remember? Now we are at the stage when he is not self-conscious parading his own privates (at home), but one single glimpse at anybody else's makes him laugh like a madman.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

It has always been my belief that people over the age of thirty must be banned by law (under pain of death) to prevent them from appearing naked in public.

Only the very young can be called beautiful unclothed.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Disagree. Strongly. Read my "Am I Beautiful? Just say yes."

I am over... the hill. Am I beautiful?


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

tsk, tsk.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I think God has punished me for saying something I ought not have. I am having one of the worst attacks of Restless Legs I have had for yonks.

Good thing I didn't go to the cinema tonight.

By the way, Nellie, 'Farinelli' was as wonderful as I remembered it. I hate it when one remembers something and then.... Ahh! The disappointment.


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MartieCoetser 5 years ago from South Africa

Wow, now I know all there is to know about Restless Legs Syndrome - my lot since childhood. I even get it while I'm sitting, so I've acquired the habit of moving my feet as if I am walking/running, straining my muscles into severe inflammation!!! Thanks!


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steve of ian fame 5 years ago from Essex

I have suffered this vacariously for the entire time I have known Ian. He never develops this condition whilst doing his crosswords standing up, so to speak. Now I know why.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Martie thanks for coming. And I suppose, as a child, you were told to "stop wriggling" and couldn't explain what was happening. I hope you don't suffer too badly with it... it's not a lot of fun, is it?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Wasn't it you, Steve , who explained to me the derivation of the word "vicariously"? You should, then, have realised how to spell the word. "Vicar" is in there somewhere.

And it was to you, that I was referring to when I said in the second paragraph in the section "Are these symptoms familiar?":

"A friend used to refer to it as wandering legs (Ha ha ha! – No I don’t think so)."

That friend was you, Steve, and I resisted the temptation to name you when I was writing this very serious and enlightening hub, but if you must be silly, then I will show you up before Mike and Becky and Nellieanna, and Mattie and Svetlana and Nikki and Keith and WOL and drbj and Mark and Augustine... and anyone else who cares to come along.

Then they will all know that you are a silly, silly insensitive person and deserve to be made to sit on the naughty chair or the naughty stair or wherever you should be sitting.

Now behave yourself and stop making incongruous and irrelevant statements.


Becky 5 years ago

You go, Ian. Chew him out good.


writeronline 5 years ago

Hi TL, thanks for mentioning the extra dimension of 'sinistrality', and for explaining what it means, I had no idea.

In terms of its applicability to body parts, as expounded, (at some length, as well as whatever dimensional terminology it is that describes the mass of an orb..) by the lovely kallini, could it perhaps also provide a clue to that other area of perceived vs real dimension, that for years has led women to be unfairly accused of being unable to park cars in confined spaces..?

It's got to be pretty difficult gauging distance when for years you've been told that three inches is a foot...

Cheers


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Oh, dear - NOW he tells me! ;->

(I should do much better on my next driving test. Wha' - ? Who am I kidding -? My driver's license has been renewed till 2017. I'll be 85. Hope I can just get another renewal by mail (male?)! hahahaha!


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Yes, it's a pleasure when it's as good as you remember - and a bummer when it's not, Ian. Glad it was! Hugs. But I"m so sorry that your RLS has flared up. You've really not been THAT naughty! tee hee


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I love it. "You go, Ian. Chew him out good".

I laughed and laughed.

Thanks, Becky. I'm going to see if I can use that expression myself. It's priceless.

Of course I'll substitute "Ian" for someone else.

Still laughing!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

WOL, that is one of the funniest bits of writing I have read today.

First Becky, and now you. It started out as a learned discussion, and I was almost caught up in it, but not quite, because I know your wicked sense of humour... but the punch line still got me.

Ha ha ha!

By the way, after our string somewhere else, I have to inform you that Mrs Plantagenet-Featheringstonehaugh says that the front door to Twilight Lawns, Norbury-sur-Mer will be opened to you if ever you deign to call.

Afternoon tea is served at 4:00 precisely.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

With your charms, Madame Nellie, I have a feeling that the gentlemen are just lining up in orderly queues for the privilege of having you in their cars.


Becky 5 years ago

I am so glad I could bring you a laugh.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

(curtsy) - Do 'madames' curtsy? ;->


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Mesdames curtsey.

Beckys make me laugh.

And my naughtiness factor is going down almost as rapidly as my profile score (or whatever that number is on my avatar).

But I'm writing a hub which. coincidentally, is about a plumber... And the competition currently is?

But it's not really an entry, it's just me whining and moaning and trying to get closure on a dreadful.... read my hub and find out, If ever it is published.


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Candie V 5 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

Holy cow! It took as long to read thru the comments as it did this fantastic hub! I'm so excited because I now know how to use the word 'treatises' in a sentence! How great is that!

Ok.. so I find Robert Louis Stevenson a hottie (with or without RLS)!

So.. on to the matter at hand - I've had little bouts of RLS, nothing big, nothing constant, but in my research you've found the right causes and some very great ideas for relief. And if it means I can buy really cool undies (in natural fibers) then that's icing on the cake!

PS.. sorry you won't be visiting my home anytime soon - the apartment has cheap (clean but cheap) carpeting. Shame!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Candie. Welcome hoem. Where have you been? I have missed you.

Can I just suggest cami knickers in cream or Café au lait or Eau De Nil. With just a hint of lace around the bottom... Then I will be your slave. There is no more sexy or evocative underwear in the world for a lady.

Silk, lawn, satin, finest Egyptian cotton...

Excuse me, I have to go and take a cold shower,


Becky 5 years ago

So now your a dirty old coot. LOL


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LittleWhistle 5 years ago

I, too, shall consider these fine ideas for undergarments!

Great hub on Restless Leg Syndrome TL!


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Candie V 5 years ago from Whereever there's wolves!! And Bikers!! Cummon Flash, We need an adventure!

Well, I've been schooled in the finer things yet again! Heading off to the web to get a looky see! Shall I have them billed to Hilda?


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

TL you are really getting the feel for things now.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

No, Mike, I think, Ian forgot the other remedy that is quite the opposite to taking a cold shower...

You can move in another direction...

Never could understand the point in sexy underwear - what is so sexy about it? Gets removed so fast - quite a waste?

Or is it just me? Restless foreplay syndrome? Off with your clothes!!!

Besides why gentlemen don't wear something sexy and lacy?


writeronline 5 years ago

"Restless foreplay syndrome"?

kallini, perhaps you might find yourself more attuned to "Pointless foreplay syndrome". It's a peculiarly Australian technique (disclaimer, I live here, like it, but still Love my native New Zealand..).

For 'yer average Aussie bloke', foreplay consists of nudging your old lady in the ribs, and grunting "you awake?"

And, down here in the ex British Penal Colony, 'gentlemen' can go to jail for wearing "something sexy and lacy".

Wouldn't the world be so boring if not for cultural differences?


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

I think, Svetlana, that you will agree men are clueless, so sexy underwear is a 'Sign', that even the dimmest of the species is clear about. Yes, with any luck it ends up on the floor quickly. That is the point.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Writeronline, I think we should open a club

"Sexual Education" - you and I are so attuned to each other.

There is no special Russian Sex Rules, Techniques, no Russian Kama Sutra or as the computer suggested Kama Sumatra. At least I am not aware of it. Just like most men are not aware of what to do with a woman to make her happy. Not that it is a goal.

- I am a good lover.

- Who told you? Your mother?

There are no Canadian rules either. Canada or Toronto in particular is a Babylon - some women believe that covering themselves from head to toe... I don't know what they believe...

I even dislike the word "sexy" - what does it exactly mean?

Does it make you think about sex now in general?

Or do you want to have sex with me?

Should I be flattered?

"Sexiness 101". Curriculum. Lesson #1.

You probably haven't heard yet about my 42 lovers, but you will. (you just have).

I would say that the best example of the Pointlessness of the whole thing is "Knowing beforehand it won't go up and proceeding nonetheless."

Maybe I should admire their courage.

I admire your playfulness - you make me laugh.

Lesson #2 - we fall in love with those who make us laugh - don't worry - I am far away...

There was one gentleman who was courting me for a long time and seducing with language like "ravishing" -

Lesson #3 - Ravishing? What the hell is ravishing?

So, when we finally met I wanted to say - "Ravish... me... already" (I have this scientific streak) and he was as cool as ... a vegetable.

Whether it all happened to me, I am not telling, but as a writer I know the power of the "I" voice.

Back to my 42nd lover...


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Mike & Writeronline:

I am not addressing Ian, he might be too busy taking showers, cold, hot, contrasting or ...

My verdict on underwear, correction "Sexy" Underwear - CRAP!!!

An attractiveness of a woman is not in how she looks or what she wears, but in something else - which is called sex appeal - some women turn you on, underwear or not, some women will never turn you on no matter how sexy their underwear is.

The main sexual organ is the brain. The up-coming or not part is important, I would not deny, size and skill matters... but it is the brain... not the head, the brain.

Anyway, you know it without me.

There is an interesting article I came across a long time ago - I loved my own responses - that is love!!! with myself - we are all narcissistic.

http://hubpages.com/relationships/150-More-Best-Pl...


writeronline 5 years ago

"So, when we finally met I wanted to say - "Ravish... me... already" (I have this scientific streak) and he was as cool as ... a vegetable."

There are a couple of clues here, kallini, perhaps even a lesson, or two..

Lesson#4 - sex is more fun in different places.

Yes, I know that of course, I am an experienced lover.

No, you misunderstand, I mean in different rooms. And in unusual ways.

Shall we do it right here in the hallway then? Standing up?

No, come into my kitchen. I want you to radish me.

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"Knowing beforehand it won't go up and proceeding nonetheless."

Lesson #5 - in case of malfunction, always keep a vegetable handy.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Oh, boy, Ian! I certainly goofed on pluralizing "madame", - but even if I'd known better, I believe I'd have done so intentionally in this case, so as to better giggle at being called one. I don't feel much like one, but I'll take it as a gracious compliment. :-)

As for curtsey/curtsy, I've spelled it both ways, never being sure which was correct. I used to use a little animated graphic of a girl actually curtsying in chat situations if I had been complimented. (heh heh - it finally was worn out!)

With all the educational comments circulating, in my quiet, great-grandmotherly "madameness", (Please don't automatically assume I'm not capable of racier discussion, though I think sex lends itself better to performance or demonstration than to discussion, either of which would be vigorously frowned upon by HP on its premises, methinks) - but anyway, I thought you might enjoy what I just learned about the word Curtsey which I looked up from my Mac's Dictionary, which draws from various sources. This, I think, is from Wikipedia:

Curtsey:

A curtsey (also spelled curtsy or courtesy) is a traditional gesture of greeting, in which a girl or woman bends her knees while bowing her head. It is the female equivalent of male bowing in Western cultures. Miss Manners characterizes its knee bend as deriving from a "traditional gesture of an inferior to a superior." The word "curtsy" is a phonological change from "courtesy" known in linguistics as syncope.

Now we know!


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

I have an interesting camo print dress with a huge ruffle around a plunging neckline and huge shoulder pads, ankle-length. The whole thing weighs a ton. (I've never worn it anywhere, except once at the ranch to amuse the cattle. It's not my own design, I should clarify! - bought it at a fund-raising auction. hahaha!)


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Nellieanna, you are manners yourself!

However, having vegetables on my mind - at least it takes time for them to become limp (yikes! I told you I hate hanging limp stuff, my apologies) - we were discussing "cuisine" (sex? what sex? S and Ex)

I broke out laughing when I read:

"traditional gesture of greeting, in which a girl or woman bends [...] while bowing her head.

"male bowing in Western cultures." - there was the whole chapter on HP about backdoor activities in which Ian participated. I mean in the discussion, not in the activities.

I wanted to write a hub about it - but yes, I thought, it will never be published.

I was wondering why men like doing it to women and refuse to try it themselves? I mean those who refuse.

The best answer from a man: "I don't want this THING anywhere NEAR me!!!!" But don't they live with those things near them all their lives? If they are lucky?

Well, there must be something to being an adult! An older and wiser... At least I can talk and laugh about it now, even though a certain character called me "You are such a lamb!" And that was a turn-off. My only crime was that I really liked him. But he was not even remotely passionate despite his claims.

What do you know? A water bearer... No offense, Nellieanna.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Oh, dear. I hope Ian's done with the shower. Only he will be able to decipher my comments. And I didn't mean the shoulder pads were ankle-length! No, no - the skirt, the skirt. Oh dear. All the sex talk has my brain on hiatus. Even that reeks of it according to Wikipedia - a physical gap or opening is listed as its original 16th century meaning. Excuse me, - I'm just slipping out the side door now. No use tailing me - - er - following . . . I'm definitely in over my head here. . . ! As you say - it's no place for an Aquarian Water Bearer, Svetlana. (beads of perspiration on my forehead now. . . - )


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

A couple more parting thoughts, though - Ms. neakin omitted a couple of places:

How about an open deckboat in the driveway of the house?- -

or

The woods near the church retreat campus?

or -

not. . .


writeronline 5 years ago

"I hope Ian's done with the shower."

I hope he's not taking a communal shower. Or, if he is, that he remembers to curtsy, not bend, if he should drop the soap.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

WOL - a wise precaution, I should imagine. . . !

Frankly, though - I strongly suspect he's retired for the night. He'd be unable to resist this conversation if he were awake!


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Nellieanna - remember when I told you, how I loved him? The character? I am not joking and you told me to steer clear from Aquariuses. You were right - he is best for friendship (yet, another f-word). He would be excellent for friendship if I could catch him. But he lives somewhere on the Moon. Let him.

[Reference:

read "From YYZ to AAZ", he is a star character there].

You know me - I am a Bloody Scorpio - I cannot take lovers who are NOT passionate. That is why I am NOT messing up with vegetables, vibrators, self-service or anything artificial. It is the emotion, not... Yes, I love myself, but intellectually.

There.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

WOL - you are hilarious!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

You guessed correctly, Becky, But why did it take you so long? Everybody else realised long ago.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you, LittleWhistle. It's nice to have you aboard. please come back again soon... either wearing them or not. We're a very accommodating group.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Candie, Hilda has drawers (No pun intended) full. Remember, she has a Villa in the south of France, and the boutiques there are as elegant as in the better parts of Paris. Let her know and she'll show you where to get them and arrange a discount for you. She never pays full price for anything. Going shopping with Mme Plantagenet-Featheringstonehaugh is more like raping and pillaging (not necessarily in that order - unless Raj is in attendance).


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Down to the last fibre and the last bit of Broderie Anglaise in Café au lait.


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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

"Did someone call for clean sheets?"


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, your comment: "Besides why gentlemen don't wear something sexy and lacy?"

I think it's time to be doing a little bit of research. have you heard of lycra? There are many young men who find that they look good in that fabric.

There are also gentlemen (and I use the word carefully) of a certain persuasion who may prefer to wear something sexy and lacy, but that's adifferent ball game.

Tee hee!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

WOL, you don't have to apologise for being a Kiwi. We at Hub Pages are a very open minded and forgiving crowd.

So Australia, yes? Obviously not from West Australia, because W.A. was never a penal colony.

One of the Eastern States, I suppose. An easier transmission from New Zealand to there geographically and culturally, I suppose.

Poor thing!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

The way to make a woman happy, Svetlana?

Tell her jokes?

The last time I heard the word "sexy" used was when a friend was describing some Bristan "1901" taps for the basin in my bathroom, or the Bristan "Colonial" Shower that is in the same bathroom.

Maybe I'm a little out of touch.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, I now have a picture of you in that dress, looking like Scarlett O'Hara and saying things like, "Fiddle-de-de",curtseying to your cattle.

A priceless image that will stay in there to squeeze out the ribaldry emanating from Kallini and MOT.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, I am NOT very competent in the underwear department, or sexy clothes or maybe I am growing to be an old fart (How do I hate that expression!) - but there are a few points:

1) Coming from Europe - I dislike boxers? I prefer - "briefs" - I am not checking what is what on the internet, so if I show my complete ignorance - pls correct me.

Sometimes men say that is all a question of comfort and I never argue with that - COMFORT is my word. The only time when I disagree with "comfort" is the swimming pants - do they have to bee knee-length? Lace or not.

It makes you feel colder and it is harder to swim. I grew up with men wearing swimming briefs like professional swimmers and I prefer those (on men) at least for swimming in the open waters. For pools, I agree, they are not very practical, because Lycra is too sensitive to chlorine. Women swimwear never lasts for too long - so I stopped buying expensive swimsuits. Unless I would go to the seaside - but when will this happen? When pigs fly.

For Daniel, my mother sews the swim pants and he likes them. But when he will realize that there is peer pressure, and this time is approaching like a fast moving train... then he will be wearing those horrible KNEE-length... The look - guys suntan and then when they remove the pants - from waist to the knee - they are white.

But, I even though I ramble on my likes and dislikes, I am tolerant. It does not sound like tolerance, but those our my preferences, I respect other people's choices. Especially, that in most cases, those are not choices - it is "swimming" in the mainstream.

2)In sex, the major turn-offs and turn-ons have to do with the body and personality, clothes are ...

if the smell is not right, I don't care who wears what...

3) sexy clothes on women (not underwear) - recently I saw a young girl - about twenty-year old - she wore shorts that go straight in - comfortable?

However, I don't give a damn about her comfort - it was her choice. But how did it look? To me?

She is screaming "SEX!" However, remembering myself - I can tell you this - women, especially young girls work too hard to be attractive - it is an instinct (in Russia, we did not have this pressure of fashion magazines back then), but still it came on its own...

BUT

girls don't know "what they are asking for". It turns ugly more often than not.

What happens next?

1) Is this sex? Yuck!!!

2) Is this marriage? Yuck!!!

3) Is that what being a .... teacher means? Yuck!!!

4) Is that what having children means? Ingrates!!!

I hope you get my point.

She is asking for sex, she may very well get it, but does she even know what is she asking for?

That is why I said - God, thank you for letting me being forty - you can put all the pressure on me to wear a thong -

and I will send you to hell - wear it yourself if it is your choice.

you want me to wear heels - spend a day in them - come back and tell me the story.

Look at me!!! I have ASS-ETS. Maybe I do - what can you offer?

A feeble brain? Dress it up. Put Lycra on it, lace or beads - would not make much difference.

If you are boring... inane... and have no idea what to do with your equipment - stay home.

How did I even get here?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Maybe when you chum referred to you as being "a Lamb" he had the same leanings as my friend Tom Mould, whose constant companion is Betty... Ovis Aries, Quadrupedal Ruminant.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I did "make friends" with someone in the staff lift at the 'House of Fraser' on Oxford Steer, London, once, The bloody staff kept on getting in and out and I had to ask them if I was in the right place for Soft Furnishings.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, I agree with all that you say. i have seen girls and woman of varying ages wearing thongs and I always think, "That must be so uncomfortable".

Girls and women in this country tend to "flaunt" themselves, even if there isn't much to flaunt.

There are few things worse than looking at an overweight woman or girl in a pair of jeans that are so low down on their hips... er... bottom. amd a thong tretched for several centimetres and then going down, down, down...Eeuch.

Or a young guy with his jeans or tracky bottoms only hanging by will power past the bottom of his cheeks, and lycra of form fitting underpants... then I watch and say, "Please God, let the jeans fall". I have only been "rewarded" once, but it was worth waiting for.

I sat in my car and laughed and laughed and I saw his reaction... street cred went south as fast as his jeans.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

You were right guys. I went to be relatively early last night but have been up for a couple of hours and done nothing but read all the comments and laugh.

I was trying to write a hub before I went to bed, but it was more an attempt at obtaining closure (as I have said already) but to confuse issues, it deals with plumbing.

Don't worry, I have no plans to enter the Drano Competition... it is too dark a tale.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Oh, fiddle-de-de - bless your little heart, Ian, you handsome ole thing, you.. . . I never did like that ole dress but I wore it just because I thought you liked it . . .


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Shil1978 5 years ago

What an absolute delight to come back to you and read this treatise on a subject that could otherwise have been so mundane!! Only you could have made this a compelling read. Loved it. The pictures are wonderful too. You've become a HubPages guru now, Ian, well done :)


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you, Miss Scarlett. You do a Southern Gentleman proud. And you looked great in that dress, and after your Mammy made it from those green curtains at Tara.

Let me accompany you to the next Ball when we raise some more money for our Brave Confederate Soldiers... and if you want, you can bring your Aunt Pitty Pat along as a chaperone. We can always leave her with Mrs Meade and slip away together for a private moment.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Shil, I am happy that you have come along to enjoy.

I am afraid that even the most serious conditions have their lighter side, and I think you can see that too.

Guru? I saw the move about a Guru, with Jimmy Mistry, and I think that beats Hubpages into another realm.

Being an HP Guru suits me fine, though, when I have quality readers like you and my "chosen few".


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Oh how sweet you are! Ah'd just love to if ah have any dances left on mah dance card! And it looks like ah may have one for the Virginia Reel.

The green velvet gown Mammy made from mama's portieres would be just precious for the next wintuh ball, but then, ah do so love mah very most favorite one ah wore to Twelve Oaks for the BBQ, and in this bad ole heat, it would be so much nicuh for dancin'. Do you mind? Ah remember the last ball where we danced was when ah was in that ugly ole black mournin' dress ah hated so and you rescued me. So, yes, you may claim me for the Virginia Reel, kind suh.

Aunt Pitty would want to come along to chaperone, but, well, let's just help huh get a life of huh own! You could bring along that sweet ole Tom Mould. She just loves fresh flowers and gardens so. And those mean ole faintin' spells and smellin' salts are just no life at all for huh. Mrs, Meade has her own Dr. Meade, but poor Aunt Pitty is so alone rattlin' around in that big ole house of huh's. We'd be doin' huh a right pretty, besides gettin' rid of huh for awhile!


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

You know ah just love to dance. Ah don't care a fiddle or a fig what the ball's is foah. But I just hate all that wah and killin' and ever-one goin' off and leaving' the plantation. Ah think ah'm goin' to cry. . .


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Nellie & Ian, if you care so much for the dance, why don't you join the ruckus of our hot Latin dancing that we have been doing for the last couple of days?

The dress has to be cut - you cannot dance tango in those dresses you have, Nellieanna. Maybe you have to strip down to your sexy underwear, if you have no alternative.

You have to see Don Carlos, Miguel Alvarez & ... especially Miguel Alvarez!!!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie that was brilliant. Actually, listening to you (yes, I said listening) I could hear Vivien Leigh in the role.

This might interest you. The House on which I based Twilight Lawns plc was a house that had belonged to Henry Tate the British Sugar Magnate. He bequeathed the house to a Community of Nuns who ran it as a Care Home. Not so much for the elderly (as in TLplc) but for women with mental disabilities.

I got to know the nun who ran the place; Sister Rose (Sister Mary Rose perhaps) who wasn't the Sister Superior, but was an amazingly intelligent lady.

I liked her enormously. She liked me a lot and was always feeding me and filling me up with tumblers of Jamison’s Whisky (Irish of course).

My father, who was a real old roué, was fascinated by her and admired her enormously (Doesn’t this go on? There's almost enough for a hub here).

ANYWAY… the Convent and the House to which they were attached had a school, and can you guess who one of their pupils was? Of course, Vivien Leigh. The nuns who knew her could tell many tales of her moodiness, and her temper tantrums, but apparently when she was in ‘Gone with the Wind’, they said that she wasn’t’ acting at all; she was just being herself.

Maybe there is a hub here. What is it about me? I seem to have so much going on in parenthesis. I always seem to know or rub up against the Great and the Good. (That will bring Steve running, if he gets to read this comment – Steve believes my whole life is led in parenthesis.)

There’s another hub there, I feel.

Joking. Ha ha ha!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svelana, I used to be quite a reasonable dancer... and what I didn't do exactly according to the rule book, I faked and faked well. But now I am lucky if I can walk to the car from my front door, and for that I need a stick.

Ah, how the mighty have fallen.

I'm not sure about Nellie in her underwear, however, She may be artistic, but not that artistic, She was brought up proper.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian & Nellie, when I invited you to dance, I invited you to read - that is how we all dance here. That is all -

I though you might enjoy the tango that Don Carlos (AAZ) and Dolores (me) dance.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I have still to read that hub of yours, Dolores.

I am writing a hub that goes on a bot and I keep on thinking of bits to put in it.

But soon, soon.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Dear Ian. I love these stories you're sharing though I'm wrestling a bit with your father being a roué, although his image is chock-full of glamour, being a British officer in India and environs and all. And he did win the affection of your lovely mother, which seems to demonstrate a lot of talent in those areas! That fascination with the Sister Superior is surely at least a hub - maybe more! By the way, our hostess when we visited England in 1998 adored Jamison's and I enjoyed it a number of times with her at the pub! Good stuff. I never thought anything could be as tasty as good Kentucky bourbon, but . . I'm not a liquor drinker, by the way -- but if I were, it would be bourbon. In Kentucky- they make some of the most yummy candy with it - & it makes the best eggnog! :-)

I saw GWTW when I was 7 when it was first released in 1939 and came to our little Texas town and caused such a stir. I've talked about my eldest sister, Harriet - instantly she was identified for looking so much like Vivien Leigh. I'd say it changed her life, in fact. She was beautiful in her own right but to resemble such a star in such a movie - well. It was life-altering! Later in her life as a socialite in Dallas, she met Randolph Churchill and he even commented on the resemblance, which became more definite once she knew of it!

I also read GWTW several times as a teen and saw the movie every time it came to the theaters again. Then it didn't come any more for many years. They finally patched up the film and reissued it, and then it came out in VHS and then DVD. I have it in both forms. I literally grew up with it. Of course, when it first came out, the Civil War was still very raw with many southerners. Two of my brothers-in-law & one sister-in-law, in fact, came from East Texas (being more a part of the Old South than other parts of our state) families who had owned slaves. The older men in their families "didn't wuk", - even after there was no more of that life. But the feelings from those times persisted long afterwards

That family produced a beautiful movie star & singer in the 40s - Georgia Carroll. But she married her bandleader (Kay Kyser) and retired to raise their family. I used to try to gain prestige as a kid by claiming that my paper doll of Georgia Carroll was my "cousin-in-law" since her cousin was married to my sister, Ruth. haha. The other kids would have none of it - they were sure people didn't have cousins-in-law and if they did, not famous ones!

My parents came from Indiana and were not rabid about any of that, except to champion fairness and equality, long before it became a political issue. But Mother had (and I now have some of them) letters written by relatives who were in the Civil War - some on each side of the Mason-Dixon line! She remembered stories of one relative who was a very famous southern belle in those times, in fact.

I'm amazed that your amazing (parenthetical?) life has brushed up with someone so interesting as the nun (or nuns) who knew Vivien Leigh as a student and knew her tempestuous disposition. I always thought that Harriet's resembled Scarlett's too in many ways. She was just as self-assured and, in her own way, ruthless.

I'll deal with our Svetlana. Yes, I was brought up proper but I was always a feisty lass. (grin)


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Any impression that I wear high-necked dresses with pantaloons is mistaken. I have lovely shoulders, upper arms and décolletée - and shapely legs, butt and waistline and I don't mind showing them off, though I value subtlety and know when and how to - uh -- show off. When it's "there" - it's not necessary to flaunt it.

My waistline is no longer 22 inches but it's still nicely indented! :-) I've no flab, by the way.


Becky 5 years ago

Yay, Nellieanna. I have been trying to get the idea of "a little mystery" through to my daughter-in-law for years. Don't hang it out, just show it off.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

My dear Nellieanna:

I am not in favour of flaunting or not flaunting, my word is COMFORT. Then goes beauty. No, maybe, before anything - your right to choose.

When I mentioned the dress for tango or salsa - I meant only practical concerns - once I caught my dress with a heel and nearly fell. Oops - goes the length - no longer than knee-length.

Then bra's straps went flying - and I had to ask someone else to fish it out and fix it - no longer I risk the embarrassment - sports bra it is.

Dancing wear turned out to be as demanding as sportswear - I have a swimming suit - one piece - but straps do not do its job - and now I leave it to your imagination - I dive and come back topless. Great!!! To the garbage chute... Who designs those things?

And you thought I was naughty.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

A fascinating comment, as usual Nellie. part of your book?

I wish.

I a;so read GWTW several times, but when I saw it on the small screen, I was so disappointed. It needs to be seen in the cinema, I think. it's that sort of film.

Some movies can take being seen on the TV screen, and GWTW can't, I fee;. Some need to dominate the audience.

One of my favourite films is 'La Dolce Vita' and i have it on DVD, but it loses some of its magic.

And don't worry about me (or anyone else, for that matter) thinking that you are a shy retiring little prude. I just know that you are an exciting person to know, and will always be beautiful.

Good taste and good manners and decent standards still mean a lot in this naughty world, Nellie.

Enough said.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Actually, dear Svetlana, what I thought was simply that it was a bit presumptuous and transparently stereotyping - & incorrectly, to boot. I get to say what I think! ;-) Fair enough?

I'm enjoying your whimsy and flight of fancy, too! Your latest hubs are lovely. I'm reading, looking, listening and observing. Your talent is limitless and it is fascinating!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Brilliant comment, Becky.

Yay, Becky, too.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, I would have liked to have been around when you were dancing, your picture you created in my mind was intriguing and very sweetly funny... but if you happen the be in the Canadian Diving Team when the Olympics are on in London next year, please let me know... I think I would be the core of your fan club.

This reminded me. A couple of years ago I was in hospital with pneumonia and in the middle of the night a young guy (Nineteenish?) was brought in with severe chest pains. He was a member of the Canadian swimming team.

I have said already that I love beauty in all things (Libra, yeah?). Man, woman, architecture paintings, music blah, blah and blah!

This guy had the most beautiful body you could imagine... no I'm not being erotic, it was just pure, lithe, elegant power and beauty.

But to add to it, he was unbelievably pleasant and not one little bit arrogant, What a lovely guy. I forgot his name, but I would love to know that he had won a Gold Medal for his country.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Ian - I am so just what and who I am, the residue of struggles with others' control, & to finally find the "motherlode". It's enough of a challenge to be true to oneself and it's so nice, after a lifetime of finding the right "fit" in one's own skin, to know that it's the best place to reside! In my case it's neither all sweetness and light nor all down and dirty. It's a mix, all of it real. Thank you for the beautiful reassurance. I didn't mean to be snappish so forgive me. I really give scant thought to what others think. I'm aware that it's never an accurate reflection of oneself but more a peek into the one whose thought it is; and that's always interesting.

I quite agree about the cinema screens being so much more fitting for big movies than the little home screen! Nowadays, though - with the proliferation of multiple small-size theaters clustered in one building, anywhere in the place, one must sit so close to their dominant big screen which is almost overpowering & with audio which is inescapable - it is sometimes a bit much for someone with acute hearing and sensitive eyesight!

The movie theaters of my heyday were deeper and beautifully magical. The Texas Theater in San Angelo was laid out like an Arabian palace, with architectural details, including Arabic arches, tiles & little balconies - and even a starlit sky overhead. It was an experience to just "go to the show" - whatever was playing then. There was even a scent I felt must be like a casbah! The theater in Del Rio was small, though, and more like these mini ones in the multi-complexes, but even so, one wasn't so accosted with the screen and sound. Maybe it was that it was actually projected from the booth up at the top of the back of the theater. You could see the light streaming from the projection booth to the screen! I saw movies ranging from the western Saturday serials, all the "short subjects", to the 3 Stooges and those wonderful romantic comedies of the 30s with the old stars and so much imagination! I saw "Wizard of Oz" there on its first run too - same year as GWTW. And the year before - "Lost Horizon" in B&W, which was Mother's favorite. It is one of the all-time greats.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Yes, Ian I know what you mean. I appreciate beauty in all its forms, too. Once I danced with a guy whose looks were not so great, but he had baby soft skin and to the same degree of softness leading style - you have to feel it - I was thinking "Can I take him home?" I think it was him I danced with when I realized I was losing my bra.

Frankly, all these accidents and incidents are just funny, as funny as sex if you can relax and talk about it as an adult. It's not the sex that is so gratifying but the laughs.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Becky - that was a great comment and compliment! Thank you!

You know - in the days of Mae West and Gypsy Rose Lee - (the great "strippers" of early cinema) - they were very subtle & mostly left it all to the imagination! It was all in their acts of teasing with a boa or baring a shoulder while half turning and peeking back over that shoulder, swishing feather fans around as they danced that made their acts seem so risqué and made them so delightfully infamous! It was outrageously flirtatious but all simply an art and even the kids could have seen it without seeing much bare skin! Much less than one sees walking around the malls now! Even the suggestibility factor was innocent by today's standards.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, I have that 'Lost Horizon' on DVD. It is one of my friend Judi's favourite films and I gave it to her for Christmas one year and then got a copy for myself.

Timeless!

We have a cinema in Tooting, South London which sounds like your 'Alhambra Palace' in San Angelo. They made it into a Bingo Hall, and I have only been into it once, but it was a truly romantic experience. I would love to have gone there when it was a cinema.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, I have that 'Lost Horizon' on DVD. It is one of my friend Judi's favourite films and I gave it to her for Christmas one year and then got a copy for myself.

Timeless!

We have a cinema in Tooting, South London which sounds like your 'Alhambra Palace' in San Angelo. They made it into a Bingo Hall, and I have only been into it once, but it was a truly romantic experience. I would love to have gone there when it was a cinema.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

As you said, Svetlana, the main sex organ is the brain.

You should have taken him home... maybe he was thinking just the same thing.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

He was. But both of us had heads on our shoulders - therefore we did not. Actually, I did not. Despite all my talk.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Ah- I should've known you knew "Lost Horizon", Ian! I'm sure you refer to the original 1937 one with Ronald Coleman, Jane Wyatt and Sam Jaffe as the high lama. Jane Wyatt was such a fresh face. She was a cousin of Elieanor Roosevelt, by the way. And of course, Ronald Coleman was a movie idol. Sam Jaffe's son started the local actor's theater group in Louisville, which I joined so to see all their plays during that year I lived there alone. I also joined the Louisville Symphony. Part of my emergence from the cocoon. hehe

They made a musical version of LH in 1973. Back then, once the initial popularity of a film passed, after a few years at most, the film wasn't shown again in theaters and we didn't have home media options. So I took Mother to see the new version, thinking it would be as good as the first one, plus in color & with music; - but we were both most disappointed. It was quite 'tackied up', we both thought.

I just read something in Wikipedia about the original movie which I'd never known before: "During the war, they cut out all the pacifist parts of the film—the High Lama talking about peace in the world. All that was cut because they were trying to inspire those G.I.'s to get out there and go 'bang! bang! bang!' -which sort of ruined the film." (Cutting out those references, that is) I guess those were restored to later versions. But I surely don't recall there being much reference to peace in the world, just about the secrets of Shangri-la and the resdents' very long life and non-aging being based on gentleness, cooperation and getting along there. Hm.

I made a tape of the movie from TV many years ago but it was not a good copy. I need to see about getting a DVD. Yup.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

That's sad that the Alhambra theater in South London was converted into a bingo parlor, of all things. sigh . . . I wonder if he Texas Theater is still intact as I remember it. I think I'll try to see about that on Google.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Ah - You might get a kick out of what I found! - Some references with site comments in quotes - which Google includes in the listings:

1) This one is a drab B&W photo & its not at its prime. I read another blog saying an individual had bought it and intends to restore it!

"WOW! Being a tried and true San Angelo native, all I could think about was our own Texas Theatre's starry sky and "Cooled by Refrigeration" elegance! Come on ... " http://cinematreasures.org/theaters/7555

2) This shows some exterior renovations in the 70s. You can sort of see how it was before, peeking above the Art Deco facade. There used to be a soda fountain shop next door and the teenagers went there to get a soda and play the jukebox after seeing a show at the Texas. I saw many a wonderful movie in that theater! I usually walked from my house to it - quite a good walk. Occasionally took a city bus. But I walked almost everywhere then.

"This must have been a spectacular Mediterranean Revival theater before the Art Deco renovation." http://www.flickr.com/photos/army_arch/501366722/

I just posted a comment on that blog. . .


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Svetlana, our world is full of chance meetings and missed opportunities. regrettable , many times. but sometimes they wouldn't have been so romantic if they had culminated in games of horizontal tennis.

It's the "what might have been" which makes that of which dreams are made.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Yes, that was the film, and I knew about the cutting loor. So I looked for it, and it was there to be seen... but I think it really worked in black and white.f


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, you are really going to like this. But I suppose I remember it as Moorish because of the name. Forgive me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzfmM2oH5NM


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

I do, I do! Thank you! That's fantastic, Ian! What a theater! And now it seem more reasonable to have it converted into a Bingo hall, so at least it's still being used and seen and all the lights are on in there! It makes such a difference when it's all lit up in its glory!

Well, of course the name Granada would make one associate it with the Alhambra and Moorish influence. And there's something about the theater's exterior which suggests the shape of that palace, but it is definitely more Gothic inside, though I don't know my details well enough to quibble about it. The narrator mentions Norman influence too. I guess gothic and Norman details are more ornate, with curlicues & living things represented; whereas Moorish would be more geometric and simple. If I'm not mistaken, Islamic tradition disfavors representing life forms in its art for fear of such images being idolatrous. Anyway - the theater has lovely murals and other such representations and it's surely not offensive.

It makes the Texas theater look rather drab by comparison, though when all the lighting and color were visible in its prime, it was still quite a spectacle, even though much less elaborate than the palatial splendor of the Granada theater!

I'm so glad you found that video and shared it! I feel as though I've actually visited it. And the lady who remembered it before when she went to the movies there and still is enjoying it playing bingo really endears it to me.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, my dear friend, I knew you would like it.I think I'm going to make a visit some time. Tooting is only about three miles from here. Strangely enough it is a very Asian area... I refer to it at Lahore, South London. There are lots of Paki shops and I used to go there a lot for food shopping, I still go to a big shop there where there are all sorts of masalas (spices etc) that are sometimes difficult to get elsewhere. Although Norbury is catching up fast.


Healthy Answers Girl 5 years ago

It feels a bit like snakes crawling up and down inside your calves! It's crazy to think restless leg syndrome affects as many as 12 million people in the country! Very informative stuff! Thanks!


sandy 5 years ago

I sort of stumbled onto something that has to worked on my RLS. Vitamin C, I began taking it to aid in the easy bruising I was experiencing and discovered that it also helped to control my Restless legs. May not work for everyone but it is worth a try.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Health Answers Girl, thank you so much for coming to read it. i hope it wasn't too long, And I feel you must be a sufferer as well. You description, like everybody else's is obviously taken from personal experience. Always adiffering explanation, but always about a nasty feeling!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Wow! Thank you very much, Sandy. I really appreciate the contribution. It's the stumbling on it which help... because no one seems to be quite the same.

I wonder if there is any connection with the Vitamin C and Iron or ferrous oxide. I know that it is pointless taking iron tablets (which apparently help with some restless legs) unless Vitamin C is taken at the same time.

Mayve the Vitamin C helps the body to release the Iron. I'm no medical person, but it is sort of a possibility.

Thanks again.

And if it doesn't work with me or everyone, it might be a great help to another person - or persons.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

(I'd written this to answer earlier when I first saw your comment - but then my internet connection went away! Second time in a couple of days, but it's so rare with AT&T U-verse which I have, I couldn't believe it - but I managed to get it back by doing stuff I used to have to do with other internet connections. But - Grrrr. Anyway -- I saved my reply so here it is, just as sincere as when first written! :-)

Ah, Ian - yes! I love it. You should go! Three miles aren't many! I love the name Tooting. It sounds so - uh - familiar? - - But calling it Lahore, South London is cute too, and appropriate. There's a canyon on the ranch full of deciduous trees - (not at all normally to be found in that country!) - so I call it West Virginia. The canyons catch rain water, of course, but most run toward the south & hold water only a very short while, enough to nourish the juniper and mesquite; but this one runs east and west so it doesn't drain off so rapidly into the canyon system leading to the Rio Grande. So this little canyon cradles its rainwater longer. It's really something to behold. From a short distance, one sees only the tops of the trees, but down in there - it's like a magic forest.

How lovely that you can find the special spices and foodstuffs there - so important to a transplant!

It's funny how some areas do drag their heels catching up to trends. When I first went to southern Indiana in 1957, there were no pizzas and definitely no Mexican foods! I tried to cook a Mexican dinner and had to resort to canned tortillas and make-do for many other ingredients! Everyone thought it was some weird gourmet food - and didn't much care for it. Their idea of chili (which they called chillah) was some hamburger meat, a can of beans, some tomato sauce, elbow macaroni, water and a tiny tad of salt cooked in a pot - no pepper of any sort. Even for a soup, it was bland and most definitely didn't resemble chili to this Texan!

Once I ventured to make it "my way" - (with plenty of chili pepper, cumin, cilantro, any other Mexican spices I could lay hands on, & less tomato sauce for color, which isn't really used much in real Tex-Mex chili) - for my husband and children - and, well - it was one of my 3 unforgivable errors leading to the explosive end of the marriage shortly thereafter. (The other two offenses were even milder.) I apologized when my ex had a violent fit about how awful it was & demanded that the kids not eat any. I agreed to throw it out and promised never to do it that way again - but when I balked when he insisted I had to say I hated it too, that did it! I was out of line insisting I did like it, & was getting too uppity. I realize it fed a growing fear that he was losing complete control, not to mention letting his window of opportunity for ending it to his advantage & for his agenda - slip by, because the kids were celebrating their 15 &17 birthdays and they were his bargaining chips and aces in the hole. Gruesome story in my archives. . .

Anyway - thanks for sharing the Granada! I love it. When I visit over there, I must see it!

Did you notice that some of your posts are posting twice? You could delete the duplicates.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

The double posting has just started again. I don't understand. I don't know if it's HP or my computer or perhaps my provider.

That tale about the food and the demands was frightening. What a pathetic person he must have been to demand that you tried to make the kids dislike it; throw away the food (a cardinal sin in my eyes); admit to not even liking it yourself.

Thank God you are a strong woman and can face down a twerp (British expression) like that.

I am writing about a bit of work that was done by a plumber (Hub Pages competition which I won't be entering). Simone Smith suggested I should enter it, but Drano isn't available in the UK anyway, and I could sure use some!

(Did that sound a bit North American?

What's happening to me?)

It is mainly to kill a ghost.

It's about seven thousand words, and not great writing, but I need to get it off my chest.

My score right now has been fluctuating between 92 and 88. This story would bring me down to an unhealthy 67!

Ha ha!


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steve of ian fame 5 years ago from Essex

Now, Now Ian! You really must avoid the temptation to remove your gloves and slap me publicly, every time there is a spelling error. Why don't you do a hub on anal retention or OCD. I know a sufferer or two.


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

Better than what mine is at. Love ya Ian.


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steve of ian fame 5 years ago from Essex

...and if you are going to bully my ignorance online as ruthlessly as you do off line, then I shall grasp my petticoats at the hem and run off Hubpages as dignified as an affronted cat.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

When could I be so unkind as to correct you spellings, Steve, I can't imagine I could be so unkind and so insensitive. You must be thinking of someone else, surely.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Becky, you have no idea how happy this makes me. You seem to know me so well, and I am getting to know you so well too.

Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Why can't I follow you????????

I have done no reading of any hubs this evening, I have been posting a new hub which is very different from all my others.

Love you too.

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mckbirdbks 5 years ago from Emerald Wells, Just off the crossroads,Texas

TL Hubpages moved the TAB. Go to Becky's profile page near the top at the center is a green oval that says 'follow' click that.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thanks, Mike. Where would I be without you?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Dignified, SFP? Wozzat?


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

I have been following you all so long, that now I forget to 'follow' the ones I follow. I know where you all are.


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jacqui2011 5 years ago from Leicester, United Kingdom

What a fantastic and in-depth article on RLS. Very useful and informative. I find that a large vodka and coke acts as a wonderful anaesthetic, and the only side effect is a headache. Voted up and useful.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Hi, Ian. That is weird about the duplicate postings. Hm-mm-m

I'm not into writing about plumbing products, but if I were, I prefer Liquid Plumr, their heavy gel product. Pour a small bottle of it in a stopped up drain, leave an hour- -- rinse with hot water and -voila! - drain is clear as a bell.

And that's about all I have to say about drain clearing! No poetry, no article. Who cares? - unless the drain is stuffed up - and then reading isn't what comes to mind! It's relief, fast and effective that's the main thought. Period. End of that.

7000 words? Ian! haha.

Going with my friend Val to the Dallas Museum of Art for an American Indian exhibit. It' s from a private collection and looks really lovely. Here's a bit about it:

http://www.dallasmuseumofart.org/View/thaw/index.h...

Spent time online yesterday working out the route to get there. Lots have changed since George & I were members back in the 80s. One-way streets all around it, new buildings a new parkway overshadows it - not a simple route. Mainly figuring out how to get into the underground parking was a challenge online. They really don't give a clue. Wish me luck. She offered to buy my lunch if I'd drive (I prefer to anyway - she'd be beside herself if she had to drive down there and my knuckles would be white!!) I'm to pick her up @ 10AM - it's 8:20 now & I'm still eating my morning fruit.

Had my internet connection flicking on and off all yesterday - so I'd better post this while it's on!

Have a lovely day/evening/night - whatever you're having!


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

btw - my score ranges up & down - 92 to 97 and dancing back and forth in between with no music accompaniment that I can detect! I sometimes think it goes up a notch whenever I post a hub and sinks after the first comments taper off. But then, out of the blue, for no reason, it may pick up or drop down again. I do almost nothing to please the scorekeepers, and poetry hubs are regarded as "soft subjects" and no matter the amount of traffic, don't bring commercial traffic, so it's really a mystery why my score is ever up! So don't fret about it much.

And another mystery - I've noticed there are no "Follow. . ." so and so options in the location where they're usually found in a box just under the profile picture and info about the hubber. (puzzled look)


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Becky Katz 5 years ago from Hereford, AZ

The follow box has moved to the left of the picture from the bottom.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Jacqui2011. I take it you are offering that cure from the position of someone with medical experience? Ha ha!

I wish I were a drinker, I would try every "cure" there was and most probably die from alcohol poisoning... but it would be a fun way to go.

Thanks for your visit. Love to see you again.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, the "Follow" is now above the profile picture on the home page. A green FOLLOW. Mike (mckbirdbks) told me yesterday. He is brilliant. He always comes good when he is needed.

What about SatNav for driving? I know you've there and back, but doesn't that help?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, the "Follow" is now above the profile picture on the home page. A green FOLLOW. Mike (mckbirdbks) told me yesterday. He is brilliant. He always comes good when he is needed.

What about SatNav for driving? I know you've there and back, but doesn't that help?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Another reason why your scores are high, Nellie, is because your hubs are all so bloody good!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Becky, the FOLLOW box seems to have a life of its own. It wanders around all by itself. maybe it's related to my bath.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

I had a route I thought was pretty efficient worked out. But first off, before we were even downtown, ran into lots of road construction delay and frustration. Then, when we got to the DMA - (right in front of it, in fact) there was no indication where the underground parking was.The street was one-way, as was the next one - going AWAY from the DMA. Went around and around, seeing the buildings of the DMA from every angle, trying to find the garage. Asked two people in the area - they had no clue. Finally found a policewoman who did, but her directions were a little faulty. However, because the one-way street left few choices, I stumbled upon the garage entrance anyway. We'd been on the road about an hour! Now I know.

We had a lovely time! Ate lunch (shrimp scampi) in the gorgeous magnificent dining room, with a sweeping view of murals and gardens outside on the museum's grounds, looking through a 3-story high and wide window embellished with huge hanging blown-glass flowers in rainbow colors. (I hope my picture on my cellphone of that is good!) The exhibit was beyond incredible. Those native Americans - from one side to the other of the continent and from top to bottom - were such artists! Everything was done with the most amazing delicacy and intricacy - and all with no modern tools. Beyond description. Room after room of displays, each from a different area of the continent, covering centuries. There was also an exhibit of African headdresses which was impressive, too.

We plan to go to another exhibit between November and February for the history of fashion. With Val's membership for herself and a guest, we get into everything free and get member discounts on lunch & purchases. Several gorgeous gift shops. I bought a lovely book on basketry. May give it as a gift to someone I know who makes lovely baskets as a hobby. The book is about the kinds of basketry we saw on display today, though. Not a 'how-to' book. A thing of art.

Thanks for the info about the follow box! I hadn't done any tracking. But one has to wonder why the change!


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

PS,Ian - Thank you for the lovely compliment, but I seriously question whether literary standards carry much or any weight in the scoring. Your hubs would be higher scored if those were the factors!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Fiddle-dee-dee! Miss Scarlett.

I'm glad yo had a nice time. Your friend is lucky to have you drive.

You seem to do so much with your time and you have so many interests.

For some reason I just imagined you wandering around Florence and being enthralled by the artefacts and the Ufizzi and the Bargello and and and...

I loved it when I went to Florence and of course, seeing'A Room with a View' was like going there again.

Have you watched 'ARWAV' since. When I first had it, I used to watch it every week for about six to nine months. I have no idea why. I would think, "Oh I'll just watch a certain part", and before I knew it I would be watching it in its entirety.

I hope the photographs you took on your mobile come out nicely. I love taking pictures with mine,.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Dear Ian - I'm so happy for your friendly face. I feel a need for a hug!

Yes, it was a lovely time. I'm still amazed at the sophistication of the objects, from beautifully decorated ceramic pots (all hand-shaped in perfect symmetry - without potter's wheels!), dyes made of all natural things they found, clothing and ceremonial wear made of delicate skins of animals and the most finely woven cloths - all hand loomed, of course and with intricate delicate designs woven in. The embroidery and weaving includes rows and rows of the tiniest glass beads, so small & intricate they almost just seem like threads and even the threads were delicate and refined. Weapons - none without elaborate decoration, including daggers and mace-like things, masks and headdresses , some of wood, some of brass and copper, everything finished to a luster to put modern machinery to shame, many with feathers, lots of fine leather, wool and fur. Leather fringes so fine they looked like threads. And - on and on, room after room, each room representing the Indians from all the different parts of this vast continent. I'm ashamed that these peoples were treated as uncivilized! They had vast civilization, but all related to nature and a sort of purity. And nothing they made was done shabbily - nothing. There was so much in this collection, too. Though it's privately owned, it's in circulation a lot and permanently housed in a museum in Washington, DC. Amazing.

Anyway - it was unforgettable.

I do have many interests. I can honestly say I have never been bored in my life. I'm not even sure how one could be!

I've dreamt of visiting Florence. You're so lucky to have been there. George, Jr and his former wife vacationed every fall in exotic places. They fell in love with Florence and went several times. He went back alone, too and plans to take his new love this fall.

I do watch ARWAV pretty regularly! I leave it out on the TV stand, in fact! I have favorites I feel I must see again and again. I notice little details each time, fine points I either missed before or forgot. I could almost recite the script from memory! haha. But I also watched it more frequently when I first had it, though I still do watch it off and on.

I know what you mean about sometimes intending to only watch bits of it - but then - all of it gets watched!

I don't think the photos I took hurriedly do it justice. I only took that enormous window in the dining area with the hand-blown glass flowers hanging down it - and a quick snap of the area where we ate. I asked permission to take those and was a bit nervous about it. Usually picture taking in galleries and museums is taboo. Anyway - I haven't downloaded them but maybe when I do, they'll look more presentable. On the small cellphone screen it's hard to tell.

I found several pics online of the window but on this site, a private site for which I can't vouch, though it mostly features a lovely exhibit from last year which might be of interest to you, - and about 1/3 way down the page, there are a couple of pictures of the magnificent window with the hand-blown glass flowers & the restaurant in the museum where we ate, with the mural on the wall outside which was within our view through the window.

http://www.powerfengshui.info/EZine/0910.shtml


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I have just written a long answer to your so interesting comment, and then lost the lot.

Please excuse me, I am so tired. I have been reposting my "bathroom" hub again and I am knackered.

Shame! It was a longer one than my usual little scribbles.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Oh no. Ian, that's happened to me SO many times - with e-mails, comments, sometimes even writing hub capsules. I now almost always write in a notepad offline and then copy and paste to the online place. At least that way - if it disappears, I have a copy, even if I've made changes to the actual one. Occasionally I forget and just write online - and sure enough - that'll be the time it's lost! It is so tiresome. I will try to reconstruct it but it's just exhausting. Not to worry - I'm pleased that you wanted to reply. Hugs. Hope you're sleeping now!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

That's what I usually do, Nellie, but I forgot, and Grrr!

No, I'm not sleeping. I deleted the Bathroom hub and republished it as Simone Smith suggested I enter the competition properly. I had not put it into the correct category. I would love it if you could revisit, and comment... It's mostly the same, but I added a paragraph at the end.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Ah -When I read on your first reply here that you'd been reposting the Bathroom hub, I already did go back over there, voted and added a much shorter comment! Hope it wins the competition! It has a lot of warmth & charm. I noticed the additional ending.

It's surely a GRRR to forget to write offline. I know from firsthand experience!


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

It basically was an attempt at closure, Nellie. I had nightmares about the woman. I would find I would get into a rage when I thought of her. Luckily all my friends here were so supportive,

Those who had seen her were all for going to her house and dragging her out and putting her in the stocks.

I still do not know why I have not reported her to Croydon Council. The Plumber and British Gas man have both told me it is "my duty" as that sort if work is life threatening.

Maybe I should send the whole "story" to my local newspaper, mentioning the woman's name.

But honestly I feel better now, having published on HP.

This is an amazing site for many reasons... not least is in meeting wonderful people (You know what already, don't you?)


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

OH, I can imagine! Such a group of hustlers. And once they had their feet in the door, it just gained momentum.

I wasn't joking in the slightest in my first comment to it, that next time anything comes up in which people are to be not only hired, but given rather free access to your premises, don't even consider them without references, documentation and verification. And at the first sign of any funny business, such as having you buy their equipment - call a halt to it, and be sure they can't get in again! That isn't the time or place to give them "benefit of the doubt". That was beyond a doubt a shady operation and dangerous for you, besides.

I've noticed something since being online where one can be a sort of objective observer of people's behavior, especially in chartrooms, but now it's widespread. And that is that those of us who grew up taking decency and honor more or less in stride can so easily become the victims of these unprincipled types who understand our hesitation to lower the boom on them and our efforts to be nice, no matter what. But I have learned along the way - not to lose who I am in it, but to turn it back on them, to be very firm when needed and to surprise them with a different result than they hoped for. How quickly they turn tail if the victim they hoped for doesn't give them what they wanted but what they didn't want! The worse thing to do is to act ugly and become "one of them". A nice person is never as good at that, for one thing - but can be VERY good at letting natural consequences boomerang.

Anyway - I'm glad it was closure for you and at this point, that's probably the best thing. Letting it go so it doesn't eat you up inside. And being more aware next time.

I certainly understand.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nellie, all these attributes of selfishness, greed laziness, intolerance, underhandedness, lack of respect, lack of personal pride, are starting to sweep through the OK like a virus nowadays, and it is endemic, from the very top of society to the lower class.

The more I see how people in the third world react and treat their neighbours, their elderly, their parents, the more I realise that we here from out politicians, or big business, our banking system, our police, out press and even the judiciary are taking backhanders, the more I realise that the riots in London and Manchester and Birmingham are all part and parcel or a hideous malaise that seems unstoppable.

A simple thing like asking for references and papers and so forth is almost like asking someone if he is a paedophile… they act as of they have been insulted… But getting the documentation and references is almost impossible

When I have the bathroom ripped out and started again. Which I think is likely, I am going to be so careful. But frankly I don’t know where to turn.


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theseus 5 years ago from philippines

This surely is an informative hub.

Fortunately for me, I don't have this RLS thing.Thank you for sharing though. God bless.


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Can we talk?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Theseus, thanks for coming to have a read.

We were getting worried that you had been lost, and we were just going to send out search parties to look for you.


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theseus 5 years ago from philippines

Hi TL.

Hahaha, I had a blast reading your comment.You just made my day. Bless your kind heart.

I appreciate your trying to look for me but no, I am not lost, dear.:) I'm just so preoccupied with so many things going on in school these days.Again, thank you all. God bless you.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

And God bless you too, my friend.


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theseus 5 years ago from philippines

You are welcome, my friend. It's always a pleasure reading and sharing my thoughts to your hubs.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

I’m sorry Ian you have been suffering more with this. From what I have seen in my career was diet played a big role? Increased caffeine and sugar can really aggravate it...also I know it is hard for you to get around and lack of mobility. Some stationary exercises may help to get the blood flowing. Anything is better than nothing. I hope you feel better soon and the symptoms ease up soon.

Love,

Sunnie


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you Miss Nursey Sunnie. I know the caffeine and sugar aggravates it business, but with me everything is in reverse. The other day it was so severe, and an energy drink (Caffeine and Taurine) hit the spot.

Then last night, a half bar of IKEA plain chocolate did wonders.

I am going to live on Blue Bolt and IKEA chocolate until I grow up.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Haha sometimes there is no rythm or reason...I just pulled my nursey card out..haha

Just feel better..If IKEA Chocolate makes you feel better then go for it..I sure would.

X

Sunnie


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nemanjaboskov 4 years ago from Serbia

I spent the last hour and a half reading the hub, as well as all of these comments... So many comments from so many wonderful people.

RLS sounds like a bitch to put up with, and all I can say is keep drinking that Red Bull if it does you good. I often have restless legs, but I am pretty sure that I don't have RLS. No pains, no needles and pins, no electric shocks - I just often cant keep my legs steady :)


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Perspycacious 4 years ago from Today's America and The World Beyond

I could never have imagined the actual "Hubs" some have written here as "Comments"! What a running dialog! The original article is comprehensive. The follow on is enormous!


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Twilight Lawns 4 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you for stopping by and your comment, Perspycacious.

I am lucky in my followers and friend. They are almost invariably the cream of the crop, so the comments are frequently of a great standard.


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ThoughtSandwiches 4 years ago from Reno, Nevada

Ian,

There is a rumor that taurine is comprised of bull sperm (note: it's just a rumor that has been largely discounted but I still trot it out now and again whenever I have the opportunity)...that said...I see a linkage between the drinking of it and masturbation as a possible elixir for this condition.

This is a most annoying condition and I am sorry that you are suffering from it. Have you tried wool underwear? I've enjoyed the comments as much as I did the article!

Thomas


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Twilight Lawns 4 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thomas. Any thing warm and/or fluffy would make the condition even worse. Just the thought of a deep pile, wool carpet or a cat doing that obsequious thing that cats do when they... I can't go any further.

Bull sperm? Interesting. So knocking one off at the cinema might be OK?

Mind you, the last time I tried that the woman in the seat behind me leant over my shoulder, and she didn't actually complain about what I was doing, she was really in a sort of advisory capacity, and told me I was doing it all wrong.

Is nothing sacred?


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old albion 3 years ago from Lancashire. England.

First class hub. Well thought out and developed.

Voted up and all and following.

Graham.


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you Graham. I had my wrist slapped by HubPages when I initially posted it, but even pared down, I enjoyed putting it together.

I am now going to go over and look a your site.

Ian


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Savio Dawson 3 years ago from Mumbai, India

Twilight Lawns,

Great Hub! I had this condition when I was about 14 0r 15, and it usually happened when I was back from a long day of Cricket! Now, somehow, I don't have the condition any more and certainly not sure why... Anyways enjoyed reading the hub, and it was rather enlightening.... Soap under the sheet? lol!!... Try some soft cornered ones!! :-)


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you for the visit, Savio. I know it's a serious subject, but if you get to know me, then I am sure that you will realise that most of my stuff is written with my tongue neatly pressed against my inner cheek. (The inside of my cheek sounds better, perhaps)

There was one "cure" that I had to delete from my hub because the Hub Police considered it was too raunchy.

Cricket? Mumbai? I didn't notice the Mumbai earlier... I was brought up (partly) in Maharashtra Province.


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Savio Dawson 3 years ago from Mumbai, India

I can surmise what the raunchy part could be.. especially one that releases dopamine... :-) ....

Yeah I indeed saw your profile talking about being brought up in Maharashtra and Krishna, who spoke Marathi... What surprised me was that you remember so much about your really young days!!

So, we have more in common than we realized. It is good catching up with you!!


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I am so lucky, as I love writing, that I have almost total recall of events, tastes, smells and a lot of other experiences. (Dopamine!!!)

Thank you for your kind (and perceptive) words.

I must say this again, but your hub on Kung Fu panda was so good. I had tears in my eyes at one stage, you wrote so well ad sincerely, and chose the perfect videos to make the point.

I was going to read part 2 last night, but resisted it as I thought I would appreciate it all the more with a fresh mind and so I have saved it for this evening.

Cheers

Ian


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Savio Dawson 3 years ago from Mumbai, India

It definitely is a gift to remember something from so long back. . I seriously doubt if I can remember much of anything before the age of 10 -12 years.. God seems to have put unique gifts in everyone and yours I know now...

Thanks for your kind words about Kung Fu Panda and I really appreciate your time to go through and provide a feedback!

Regards,

Savio.


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Hi, Savioo. I didn't get around to watching your Kung Fu panda last night as I promised. I went to the cinema and didn't get home till after 1 am so will enjoy your hub this evening.

I went to see, you may be interested to learn, Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani.

It was entertaining, especially the second half, but I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as Ishq in Paris with Preity Zinta.

I really love Preity, and was quite upset that the movie was a box office flop. She directed it, and I think it was an excellent movie... very much like a British or light hearted with pathos, French film.


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Savio Dawson 3 years ago from Mumbai, India

No kidding... I just returned after watching Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani... Movie is good and I liked the song... 'Badtamiz Dil'... Also, somewhere, I missed that you follow Hindi.. Wow!!

Preity Zinta is a good actor, but she took a break from cinema for her Indian Premier League (IPL) 20 -20 team Kings XI Punjab... Of course, entire IPL is under controversy and fixing allegation now and good thing that she is back to cinema... Though, have to watch Ishq in Paris...


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

What a coincidence. I liked the movie, but Ishq in Paris, I thought, and the friend I went with, was really great. So sad that it's a boxofffice flop.

I've liked Preity since I fists saw her in 'Dil se...' One of the first Bollywood films I ever saw. Good one to start on, eh?

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