The Connection Between Deep Thinkers and Depression

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Have you often wondered who the person was at the party who sat somewhat silently and mysteriously? They seem so deep and full of thought. Then you wonder, who is that person tearing up the dance floor? The person who doesn't seem to have a care in the world. They seem like they are having so much fun and like they are so carefree. Do you fit into either one of these categories? I am sure you do, because we all do to some extent. The question is, are you more likely to be depressed if you have more philosophical/analytical thinking patterns?

First of all, we must acknowledge the fact that genetics do play a role in all of this. Even the most carefree person could have a genetic predisposition to depression. However, a carefree person may not have philosophical tendencies. Will they still be depressed? If it's a chemical imbalance, then yes, they probably will be. If it's not, will they still be depressed? Possibly, depending on their situation. Ultimately, the deep thinkers will suffer from depression more frequently than those who don't think deep.

Why is this? Well, people who think on a more philosophical level often question everything. What is the meaning of life? What is the universal truth? Who am I? There are no answers to these questions. There are people who just believe what they have been told their entire lives, without questioning anything. In fact, people who just believe what they are told may have a genetic predisposition to depression, but their faith overpowers the depression. For example, a person who is brought up Catholic may be prone to depression, but it may never surface because they don't need to question anything. They are not worried about the meaning of life or why they are here. That question is answered, because God is the meaning of life. Their duty is to serve him. Ideas like this are wonderful because there's no questioning behind it. If you live your life to serve God you are rewarded in the afterlife by never ending happiness. (Quick note: Please don't think that I don't believe in God). How can life be this simple? If life were as simple as this, would there be one universal religion? One universal way of being? One universal truth? No, there are millions of different religions out there. How do you know which one is correct? Are your beliefs based on your family's beliefs? They most certainly are. That's not to say that ALL people with a belief do not think deeply or do not truly believe what they believe in, but some people just believe what they are taught. Look at the different religions around the world. If you were born in a different country you would believe in the religion that is taught in that country.

Some people are just happy to be alive. They have normal worries and concerns like everyone else, but they are happy with the way things are. They accept what is and just live life. Given the circumstances, these people are less likely to be depressed.

Here is the irony: I am clinically depressed and take medication on a daily basis in order to function properly in society. I am a deep thinker and tend to question the world and everything around me. When I am depressed, I don't think like this as much as I do when I am not depressed. This contradicts strongly with what I have written in the above paragraphs, but I truly do believe there's a connection between all of this. Is it possible that it's just my personality? I was never the happy go lucky person who didn't care about anything. I have always been negative, a deep thinker, etc. My reasoning behind why I think more about these types of questions when I am not depressed is because when I am depressed I have no energy to do anything. So, I clearly do not have energy to waste thinking about the questions of life. When I am not depressed, I have the energy to do the things that I enjoy. I enjoy thinking about philosophical ideas and questions. I am still a negative human being when I am not depressed, so this is just my personality.

In essence, every human being is different. I think there is a connection between depression and philosophical thinking, but personality plays a role. It's possible that a negative and introverted person has more philosophical tendencies and is more prone to depression.


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nicred 5 years ago from Cape Town South Africa

Informative. I enjoyed reading this .


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

Thank you nicred....I'm glad you enjoyed it!


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ubanichijioke 5 years ago from Lagos

Wonderful, soulful, informative & great hub. I believe the right of every individual is the ability to make a choice without being forced into it. The questions raised are vital and must be answered individually. I appreciate this experience. Great first hub. A step in the right direction.


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

Thank you ubanichijioke, your comment means a lot to me! I am glad you appreciated my hub. And, yes, the questions raised are vital that is for sure! Thanks again!


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amymarie_5 5 years ago from Chicago IL

This is a very well written and well researched hub. I used to have a friend who was always happy and never seemed to have a care in the world. I was always the opposite, analyzing everyone and everything around me. I envied her for being popular and care-free. I get upset quite easily and I often have people tell me 'don't read so much into it'. I guess some of us are just wired differently. Thanks for sharing this. :)


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

Thank you very much amymarie_5! I appreciate your comment and I know exactly what you mean. I somehow managed to be pretty popular in school, but probably because you know how it can be sometimes. Sometimes I felt I had to wear a mask and pretend. I eventually got over that and my one friend would actually look at me at some of the parties and stuff we went to and tell me that I was going overboard again. What she meant by that was that I always liked to have deep conversations, not the small talk. Well, I guess most people don't like this? Anyway, thanks again for you comment!


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Lord De Cross 5 years ago

Personality, characther, genes, environment, and the Self in us. The human gearing that define us and make us unique. I'm not a psychologist at all, but through the years I became a sort of natural counselor for my fellow man. Your hub is interesting and gives us an insight first hand of what we are and what we can be. Is 2011 and America and the world have that turning point in history... and as usual, the cycle will come to and end and a new beginning. Talking about depression and the times we are living. Thanks Capric, and I know you are a good 'mommie'. God bless!


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

Thank you very much lord de cross for your comment. I agree that everyone is unique and a lot of things are based on personality, character, genes, environment, and most important of all, the self within us! Thanks again for your comment. Take care!


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Lord De Cross 5 years ago

yOU ARE WELCOME..! Wanna give me some feed back on my hub: HUBPAGES TWENTY YEARS LATER?


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sexpressions 5 years ago from Wherever my imagination sees fit

I have thought these very words many times. I used to be that girl in the corner, wishing I hadn't gone to That Party on That Night because of Those Ridiculous people getting drunk by the fire... Things have changed a bit now. I'm a little more bipolar, haha! I moved away from home, and found a whole new me. A me, that although seems to be a little more than wreckless sometimes, still has a brain with common sense included.

This write is very interesting to me, as you have the same thoughts I do. Not to mention, I love your profile. (I too have a thing for motorcycles and psychology - without the course.) I hope you start writing and posting more on here, I'd like to read more of what you have to say! Something tells me you'd be wonderful with poetry...


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

sexpressions, thank you very much for reading my hub and for appreciating it. I am really trying to post more on here but it's been a bad couple of weeks. After this weekend though I plan to write much more. I am actually working on some things, but finding the time is so hard sometimes. Anyway, I am glad to hear that you are happy with yourself. You seem to have a positive view of yourself which is wonderful! A lot of times when people have problems (depression, etc. like I do) they think of themselves negatively. Thanks again for reading and commenting!


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Jean Bakula 5 years ago from New Jersey

Hi Capric222,

Thank you for following me. This is a really interesting hub. A few years ago, I was studying the Bible with a friend, and writing my book about the tarot, but I was feeling so down. My son was in college, and when I brought it up, he said, "No wonder, you are writing about Death, Judgement, and all heavy issues, and doing that Bible study. You are thinking in absolutes all the time." They think they know everything when in college, but I think he was right. I didn't become a Christian, but I self published the book of poetry about the tarot, it's on my profile page. I was just researching windmills. I live in NJ, and people are opposing them, which seems silly to me. We need alternate energy, and I think they look good. Maybe I'll leave this topic to you! Best Wishes!


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

Jean Bakula,

It's great to have the opportunity to follow you, so no need to thank me! I think your son was probably right, that's for sure! I am interested in what you have to say, so I'll have to check out the book you are talking about. So, if you didn't become a Christian do you mind me asking what your thoughts are on spirituality?


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MickeySr 5 years ago from Hershey, Pa.

I always thought of myself as a deep thinker . . . I've always been intrigued with philosophic notions, big questions, crucial ideas, etc. But my view, or at least my terminology, changed after living with my wife . . . I think about deep things, I ponder over big ideas - my wife is a deep thinker. In this regard;

I'm not real smart, but my interests are academic in nature. I mean, spectator sports don't interest me, working with my hands is no delight, making money is about as dull as things can get - I think. I love history, philosophy, theology, etc. That's what I count to be fun. I have a good working mind that I am thankful for, but I'm not so much smart as I am interested in 'smart' kinds of things.

My wife is a deep thinker. I mean, she can't not think. She ruminates and rolls a though over and over in her mind until she couldn't come to any other conclusion than to be depressed. I think about an idea to some end, I know what I'm giving my attention to the idea for, I know what I'm trying to gain a better understanding of - I am in control of my thinking and I use my ponderings to my best advantage.

My wife loses control of her thinking, she doesn't want to keep going over an idea again and again and again, but she can't find how to stop. My thinking seems to me to be on an advancing plane - my wife's seems to be on a downward spiral. She is a deep thinker in that her thinking gets deeper and deeper, she can't find her way back, and it inevitably gets more and more bleak.

To me, thinking is vigorous and useful - to my wife, thinking is melancholy and nearly always ends with depression. As you say, everyone is different. From where I stand, it seems that those who suffer from circumstance induced depression (rather than a clinical chemical imbalance, though, that may well be behind the routine circumstances) fall into a depressed state because they lack the skill or technique or capacity to leave a thought, to set an idea aside or to deal with an issue in a productive, problem-solving way rather than in that relentless downward spiral way where the idea governs the course of their feelings.


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

MickeySr: I love every response that you have for me! I guess I didn't really think about it the way you are saying, but it makes perfect sense. It used to be that when I was depressed I would think about things that would make me even more depressed because I didn't know how to stop thinking about it. As I got older, I think I may have figured out how to do that. Now, I like to think more (like I said in my hub) when I am not as depressed. This is probably due to the fact that I am able to stop thinking when I need to. Thanks so much for your insight...I mean really. Thank you so much! I didn't think about it in this way, but I think I may have figured out why I think more now when I am not as depressed. It's because I learned how to stop thinking when I need to or I know when to shut it off instead of letting it rule my life. Your responses mean so much to me....you have answered a question that I have been pondering for quite some time. Thank you so much for your time...there are no words to express how truly thankful I am.


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MickeySr 5 years ago from Hershey, Pa.

Capric222,

You're a sweetheart. I hope you recall and can benefit from anything I may have said that is sound and useful, and all that is my own silly opinion will be discarded and forgotten. My wife is not as she used to be, but she does still has that tendency, that deep internal inclination, to dwell on some thought and roll it over and over in her head until she comes to that inevitable conclusion - 'what's the point, what does anything mean, someday I'll die', etc.

She's learned to habitually just stop, but that kind of thinking can still latch on to her from time-to-time and she'll need help to escape it. It's interesting, if you asked us, I would quickly respond that thinking is fun, that I enjoy pondering and deliberating, etc - I think my wife would just as quickly reply that thinking is no fun, that it's better for her not to think about things. As you said, and as I try to live by; everybody's different.


John McManamy 5 years ago

Hey, Capric. I'm so glad someone else is thinking this way. Mainstream psychiatry is not with the program on this topic. Clearly, for many of us, depression (and thinking deep) is part of our personality. No pill is designed to medicate the personality out of us, and heaven help if there were. Keep writing more on this.

My piece: http://knowledgeisnecessity.blogspot.com/2009/11/d...


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Capric222 5 years ago Author

Thank you John, it means a lot coming from you. I really appreciate that you took the time to read this. It means even more that you read it because you are interested in the topic. Thanks again!


luza 4 years ago

I've always been a depressed person. I saw your article I began to think of something that had never seen and it's about because teem tendency to depression people are debating it?

Thanks for your article, now thought more deeply is this.


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Capric222 4 years ago Author

Thank you so much for taking the time to read this Lusaka. Depression is horrible, but there's so many different aspects of it and so many different debates about it. I am currently researching some more things about depression so please check back to read some more things!


quirkybean 4 years ago

Capric222- Thank you for posting this. I too "suffer" from a similar personality. And as a result of all of it, I too am proned to be "negative" as others would say i'm sure, but i would call it quite simply, very sad much if not most of the time. I am nearly in constant contemplation of the profound and am always amazed when I observe how others can simply live in the moment, the here and now. If I drive to the grocery store, I haven't been thinking simply about getting in the car, putting on my turn signal, finding a parking spot, and picking out the right produce, rather I have ruminated over a variety of philosophical and theological questions and problems by the time i get to the checkout. As a result I feel the need for things to be simple, because they are not in my head. (I am easily overwhelmed and "assaulted" by the incessant thrum of stimuli in our world as well).

This condition also makes me a black and white thinker, very "all or nothing". I long for that "neatness". With this too comes the problem of not being necessarily very well received by others as they simply don't operate on the same level. This causes lonliness that is at times profound. I hear often from others who are nowhere near like me that i need to "look on the bright side" and "count my blessings". I'm sure I dont need to explain to you what is so drastically wrong about that advice. It's like telling me to not be myself, to be someone completely different. It also reduces my depression to something I "deserve" in a way for not being a grateful person. So then comes the guilt. I can't physically DO what they suggest. Also, being a female is hard because this type of thinking is typically more common in males, and that too creates a lot of seperation. I can't always go out and befriend males since i am married and have children, and most people would reduce that to something nefarious. BUt quite simply put, it is just hard to find people who think big. But I try to remember that although there are not many people like us out there, and that is very difficult to say the least, we are unique, and are doing what I believe humans are supposed to be doing, we are THINKING. Not just "going along" like most of the world. I suppose feeling in contention with the world is part of this condition, not just individual people you may know, but the whole design of it all in general. I dont know if you relate to any of what I said, but what you said did seem to speak to me. I hope this in some small way can help. I find I have found so much relief from yours and similar posts. Sometimes I think it's not even this condition, or personality that is so difficult, rather the lack of others who are this way, and lack of kinship. It is true that deep thinking people are normally quite intelligent, and depressed, and have a realistic view of the world. I hope this has helped you in some way. And p.s. I think probably the thing I most often contemplate and question, is the fact that others DON'T question! :)


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Capric222 4 years ago Author

Yes...I can really relate to what you have written. I also believe that this is the way people are supposed to be. Thinkers. There are not many of us out there. Those of us who are have to stick together! Thanks so much foryour feedback....I really appreciate it!


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summer 3 years ago

Maybe you just need to be fixed, there's something you're missing, or something you need to discover and that's what's making you sad while you're just accepting sadness as a part of your personality. & maybe it is but I wouldn't be so accepting of a life bound to constant pointless depression. Remember the sky is the limit


Melvin 3 years ago

You're missing something, if you're such a deep philosophical thinker you're ignoring amazing comprehensive abilities for life. There are things that happen that most people can't see or over-look because they're not thinking deep enough. literature, spirituality, the beauty of life comes out through complexity.


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Capric222 3 years ago Author

No, I don't really ignore the very amazing things. I do look into myself spiritually, read literature, etc. So, I don't think it's so much that I am missing something. It's just I think that there's more bad out there right now than there is good. And that is depressing.


Elizabeth 3 years ago

Wow! That sounds just like me! I am now 37, but for what it seems my whole life, I have always thought deeply about life. I figured everyone felt like this, but that is not the case at all. It actually seems to be the minority. I always wondered about time and existence. All it brought me was anxiety and depression. I could probably be diagnosed with OCD and Depression, but it seems normal to me. It is those that are happy and don't worry about what is going to happen in the future who are wrong, because they cannot see the pain and sorrow in the world and what is in the future. To me that is reality in its purest. I hate to think like this, but to not to, is lying to myself. Now I do have hopeful moments and happy moments, and I do appreciate the beauty of this world. I am a Christian, I believe in the supernatural besides the reality we see. And no I do not use this to make myself feel better, but because of the research I have done I believe all truthful signs point to The gospel. I do agree, I believe thinking deeply can have an affect on depression. I think it is a combination of things. I do not believe it is just an illness. I don't think, I could be depressed. But I counter that by asking, do you mean to tell me that there is a pill I can take that will make me not think that bad things are not going to happen and I am just suffering from an illness? If so, then sign me up.


Elizabeth 3 years ago

Wow! That sounds just like me! I am now 37, but for what it seems my whole life, I have always thought deeply about life. I figured everyone felt like this, but that is not the case at all. It actually seems to be the minority. I always wondered about time and existence. All it brought me was anxiety and depression. I could probably be diagnosed with OCD and Depression, but it seems normal to me. It is those that are happy and don't worry about what is going to happen in the future who are wrong, because they cannot see the pain and sorrow in the world and what is in the future. To me that is reality in its purest. I hate to think like this, but to not to, is lying to myself. Now I do have hopeful moments and happy moments, and I do appreciate the beauty of this world. I am a Christian, I believe in the supernatural besides the reality we see. And no I do not use this to make myself feel better, but because of the research I have done I believe all truthful signs point to The gospel. I do agree, I believe thinking deeply can have an affect on depression. I think it is a combination of things. I do not believe it is just an illness. I don't think, I could be depressed. But I counter that by asking, do you mean to tell me that there is a pill I can take that will make me not think that bad things are not going to happen and I am just suffering from an illness? If so, then sign me up.


ralston sterling 2 years ago

Ecclesiastes 1:18.


Mikle 2 years ago

Well I'll tell you this, from a deep thinker to deep thinker. I'll give you some of my way how to cope with a sadness of not being understood and feeling negative all the time. First of all sorry for my English. Until I met my first serious girlfriend I kinda lived in my own world not really understanding what's wrong with me and why i find it so hard to find friends and just be social like everyone else there. The most hard point for me was that I really thought that my view is kind/realistic/right but people ether didn't care (''You are to heavy man'') or argued with me about their beliefs not even questioning them selves. Sometimes i felt like most humans are sheeps going after their Shepard.

But here is a point: Thinking and seeking one ultimate truth about every thing is like being afraid that our planet and all humans on earth will die out in 3 billion years because the sun will expand and burn us all. You see, that is depressing so i bet you don't even think about that.Because we all know our ultimate faith

Same most of the people don't think about ultimate truth and become all philosophical but instead just live their lives because who cares?! so i will die/so i will not know who is more right Christians or Jewish or Muslim faith, they just believe their faith and make out the most of it.

I entered my depression because when i got to know my girlfriend more, I realized that we don't connect on that deep thinking level. She was very social and all and I was't. I thought that I even don't really love her. After some time I realized she was like a mirror of me. She made me realize all my shortcomings, like how asocial I was and all this stuff. She said to me something that really bumped me. She said that life doesn't question whether you like being social or not because if you want to achieve something and be happy you WILL have to do things you don't really want/like/passionate about. I for example extremely passionate about Astrophysics and love it but if I won't sit on my ass trying to figure out all the mathematics and if I won't start to talk ''small talks'' with other people about all the stupid things i will not acquire social skills and won't be able to present my Astrophysics work or presentation in front of other people. And that's when I truly had respect for my girlfriend, because she helped me improve where i am weak.

You see, you were born with this gift. So use it to the fullest but don't forget to learn and understand other people, their strengths and believes, because they might be handy in your every day life.


logan 22 months ago

have you ever stopped to think, maybe if the people who are deep thinkers about society, that are constantly analyzing society, maybe they are getting depressed at the state of our society, and want a change in our society for the better? But do not see any practical ways of changing it within their power?


marc 20 months ago

So I am currently in a depression phase. I think a good amount of it could have to analytically thinking.

I think a good amount of my depression could have to do with my own over analyzing of things.

It can be likened to a lot of things but I often liken it to swimming in the ocean. I just imagine myself swimming deeper and deeper and deeper.

I think the problem sometimes is that I swim too deep and my brain gets stuck.

Like you I think it is good to allow ourselves to think deeply but I also think that if you get into the habit of analyzing everything it can be hard to get back out of that habit.

I also think that we should limit ourselves in our far deep we allow ourselves to go so that we don't get stuck.

Maybe a time limit? Like I said before I think deep thinking is a good brain activity but if we allow ourselves to much of anything it can throw us out of balance/whack.


chloe 8 months ago

Dude logan, that is ME. Guys I have accepted the fact that I am a rare human being because of the way I think so deeply ALL THE TIME and can't seem to stop. I, too, thought everyone thought this way and would bring things up to people and they would look at me and say' what are you talking about?' And i feel like NO ONE UNDERSTANDS ME. There are so few people who I feel that DEEP depth and connection with. I want to change the world guys and I'm trying to figure out how to use my extreme empathy and deep analytical skills the best way to help make a POSITIVE IMPACT on this planet before I die. And the clock is always ticking. I am so happy I found this post it gives me hope I will find someone who understands my depth. I always get scared because I can connect and understand anyone but not a lot of people understand me on the deepest level. Can anyone relate? I don't know if I'm depressed and I'm afraid medication will make me less of a person. I find my thinking a cursed blessing. I just want to be happy and use it correctly.

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