Why is Fluoride Bad for You?

If someone told you that every time you turn on your tap to get a drink of water you are pouring poison into your glass you probably wouldn't be so keen on drinking the resulting fluid. If you were told that the toothpaste you use each day to clean your teeth, and your children's teeth also contained this same poison you would no doubt think very long and hard before using that product again wouldn't you?

The scary thing is that this is exactly what we are doing day to day, ingesting a poisonous substance because we have been brainwashed into believing it is good for our teeth. The facts of the matter are vastly different though, and I hope after reading this article you will all think long and hard about whether or not you might be better off buying bottled spring water and using a fluoride free toothpaste.

What is Fluoride?

Fluoride is a pollutant - a by-product of copper, iron and aluminum manufacturing. The problem of how to legally dispose of fluoride was solved in the 1930's when a study (funded by one of the country's largest aluminum companies) concluded that fluoride prevented tooth decay.

Even more alarming the chemicals most used to fluoridate drinking water are silicofluorides, contaminated waste product of industry, that were never safety tested on humans or animals. As a result what we are actually doing is conducting a massive toxicological experiment with our children as the test subjects.

Silicofluorides are linked with children's increased lead absorption. Studies link fluoride chemicals to bone fractures, lowered IQ, thyroid dysfunction, cancer, allergies and more.

Dental fluorosis is a reflection of what's happening in our     bones and is the first visible sign of fluoride poisoning         Picture courtesy of http://www.fluoridation.com/teeth.htm
Dental fluorosis is a reflection of what's happening in our bones and is the first visible sign of fluoride poisoning Picture courtesy of http://www.fluoridation.com/teeth.htm

Why is Fluoride Bad for Me?

British researchers report in the British Medical Journal that fluoridation studies are flawed. A Canadian Government report found fluoridation does more harm than good. A US National Institutes of Health Panel found most tooth decay studies, including hundreds on fluoride, scientifically invalid. Even UNICEF, the organization that protects children, reports, "more and more scientists are now seriously questioning the benefits of fluoride, even in small amounts."

New research proves old-time dentists' premise was wrong. Fluoride's possible benefits, if any, are topical. So there's no good reason to swallow fluoride or put it into the water supply.

Fluoride is highly toxic. In fact, before fluoride was deemed a "cavity fighter," it was used as insecticide and rat poison. In fact when it comes to dental hygiene, fluoride actually does more harm than good.

When you consume too much fluoride, your teeth can become discolored and crumble.

In tests on laboratory animals, fluoride has been shown to enhance the brain's absorption of aluminum (the substance that's found in the brains of most Alzheimer's patients). Three different osteoporosis studies have associated hip fractures with fluoridation. And excessive fluoride has been shown to damage the musculoskeletal and nervous systems, leading to limited joint mobility, ligament calcification, muscular degeneration and neurological deficits.

A number of different studies have linked fluoride to as many as 10,000 cancer deaths per year, with a high incidence of bone cancer among men exposed to fluoridated water.

Fluoride is an acute toxin with a rating slightly higher than that of lead.According to "Clinical Toxicology of Commercial products," 5th Edition, 1984, lead is given a toxicity rating of 3 to 4, and Fluoride is rated at 4 (3 = moderately toxic, 4 = very toxic).

Fluoride is also considered toxic waste. It is one of the most bone seeking elements known to mankind. The US Public Health Service has stated that fluoride makes the bones more brittle and the dental enamel more porous.

Approximately half of each day's fluoride intake will be retained. This is what makes it so dangerous. "The dose makes the poison". All sides agree to the fact that healthy kidneys can eliminate only about 50% of daily fluoride intake. The rest gets absorbed in calcified tissues, like bones and teeth.The National Academy Of Sciences (NAS) stated in 1977 that, for the average individual, a retention of 2mg/day would result in crippling skeletal fluorosis after 40 years.

Four major studies involving 480,000 children (US, 39,000; Japan, 22,000; India, 400,000; Tucson, 29,000) comparing fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas showed no significant difference in decay rates. Proven is that a higher intake of fluoride will actually cause MORE cavities, especially for children with low dietary calcium intake.

Those little white spots visible on the teeth of many children are called dental fluorosis, a condition
which not only predisposes them to decay, but also provides a sign that systemic fluoride poisoning is taking place. Dental fluorosis appears to serve as a red flag for future bone fractures as well.

In 1990 fluoride was found to be an equivocal carcinogen by the National Cancer Institute Toxicology Program.(Maurer, et. al.,"Fluoride an equivocal carcinogen. J.National Cancer Institute 82, 1118-26, 1990)

There are also studies proving that fluoride toxicity affects fertility.

In a dramatic turnaround, the nation's leading fluoride advocate, The American Dental Association (ADA), issued an alert on November 9th (2006) urging parents to avoid fluoridated water when reconstituting infant formula, warning that "Infants less than one year old may be getting more than the optimal amount of fluoride if their primary source of nutrition is powdered or liquid infant formula mixed with water containing fluoride."

The most recognized problem with the ingestion of too much fluoride is dental fluorosis. This condition is characterized by the failure of tooth enamel to crystallize properly in permanent teeth. The effects range from chalky, opaque blotching of teeth to severe, rust-colored stains, surface pitting and tooth brittleness.

Studies dating back to the 1950s have shown links between Down's Syndrome and natural fluoridation. Ionel Rapaport also showed how the age of women bearing Down's Syndrome children decreased in direct relation to the increase of fluoride in the water supply. The more fluoride that was in the water, the younger the age of the women bearing Down's Syndrome children.

Risk to the thyroid gland.According to the NRC, fluoride is an “endocrine disrupter.” Most notably, the NRC has warned that doses of fluoride (0.01-0.03 mg/kg/day) achievable by drinking fluoridated water, may reduce the function of the thyroid among individuals with low-iodine intake. Reduction of thyroid activity can lead to loss of mental acuity, depression and weight gain.

Deformities caused by Fluorosis. Picture courtesy of http://www.gaia-health.com/articles51/000081-Fluoridated-Salt.shtml
Deformities caused by Fluorosis. Picture courtesy of http://www.gaia-health.com/articles51/000081-Fluoridated-Salt.shtml

How did the use of Fluoride ever get sanctioned then?

In 1939 a dentist named H. Trendley Dean, DDS, examined water from 345 communities in Texas. Dr. Dean worked for the U.S Public Health Service (PHS). He determined that high concentrations of fluoride in the water corresponded to a high incidence in mottled teeth. To many dentists this provided an answer to the problem of mottled teeth they saw in some of their patients. Dr. Dean also unexpectedly found a lower incidence of dental cavities in communities having about 1 ppm fluoride in the water supply. Among the native residents of these areas about ten percent developed the very mildest forms of mottled enamel, usually described as "beautiful white teeth". However, Dean used a technique known as "selective use of data", using data from 21 cities while completely disregarding data from 272 other locations which show an almost complete lack of correlation when plotted.(J.Colquhoun;International Symposium on Fluoridation, Porte Alegre, Brazil, September 1988)

Meanwhile, a number of court cases were being launched due to fluoride contamination, mainly by the aluminum industry. In addition the Manhattan Project, the secret atomic bomb project, was in a big race to build the world's first A-bomb. A pollution incident of great magnitude occurred at a factory in New Jersey (DuPont) producing millions of tons of fluoride for the project. A major "negative PR" problem was emerging, threatening the Manhattan Project and the secrecy around it.In 1945, supposedly as a result of Dr. Dean's discovery, the PHS planned to conduct a 10-year study of fluoridation in two cities. Grand Rapids, Michigan was chosen as the city for artificial fluoridation and Muskegon, Michigan was the non-fluoridated city for comparison and cavity rates were to be compared. In 1950, after only five years into the project, due again to pressure exerted from the atomic bomb program, public health officials started to campaign for fluoridation. The campaign was based on the fact that fluoridated Grand Rapids had shown some decrease in cavity rate. Meanwhile there was also a decrease in cavity rate shown in non-fluoridated Muskegon. However, Muskegon was dropped from the study for unknown reasons. After the project was completed, only the Grand Rapids result was released and a major PR campaign promoting fluoride use started.

The aluminium industry were very keen to get the fluoride bandwagon rolling. They had been marketing their fluoride waste as a rat poison and insecticide and were looking for a larger market. Therefore, a ten-year test was planned to prove to the public that fluoride in water would reduce the incidence of cavities. Before the test was completed as planned, and despite the fact that there was no clear evidence that fluoride was either safe or effective, water fluoridation was declared a triumph for public health.

Picture courtesy of http://www.gaia-health.com/articles51/000081-Fluoridated-Salt.shtml
Picture courtesy of http://www.gaia-health.com/articles51/000081-Fluoridated-Salt.shtml

What can I do to avoid consuming Fluoride?

If you live in an area with fluoridated water, drink distilled water.

Eliminate any Teflon of Tefal coated cookingware, for scratches in the surface will release PTFT, another toxic fluoride compound.

Avoid fruit juices coming from fluoridated areas.

Avoid using any toothpaste or mouthrinse containing fluoride.

Avoid all non-organic grape products as they are especially high in fluoride content due to the number of fertilizer and pesticide applications. Wine can contain up to 3 ppm fluoride.

Stop using/ingesting fluoridated tap water. Stop making ice cubes and washing produce with it and stop cooking with it.

Buy a water filter but make sure it is one that can remove FLUORIDE, minerals, THMs and nitrates. Be sure to get a filter that is NSF-certified (a non-profit testing agency).

Use all natural toothpaste from the health food store such as Toms of Maine. It is especially important for children to use fluoride free toothpaste since they are more likely to swallow some while brushing their teeth.

Never use fluoridated water when mixing baby formula. Too much fluoride accumulated in the body can cause dental fluorosis, and according to the CDC 1/3 of the kids in the US now suffer from this condition.

Stop smoking, fluoride has been found in cigarettes.

Be wary of tinned fish and canned food items. Fluoride may be used as a preservative.

Avoid long term use of medication that contains fluorine. Certain antidepressants and medications for osteoporosis contain fluorine.

Be careful of drinking too much green or black tea. Tea almost always has elevated levels of fluoride and can contribute a substantial amount to one's total fluoride intake.

If you live in a country which allows fluoridated salt to be sold, make sure that the salt you buy is unfluoridated. Consumption of fluoridated salt can greatly increase a person's fluoride exposure.

Minimize consumption of mechanically-deboned chicken. Mechanically deboned chicken (e.g. "Chicken McNuggets") has been found to contain elevated levels of fluoride due to the incorporation of ground bone particles (which are high in fluoride) into the meat.

Move. This may seem like an extreme solution, but if you have the option, not all cities have fluoridated water and Europe’s water supply is 97% fluoride Free. If you live in an area with fluoride free water, take advantage of it and only buy locally grown and raised produce and meat that hasn’t been contaminated with Fluoride

There is also the conspiracy theory, which argues that the governments are deliberately introducing Fluoride into our food and water supplies in order to keep us docile and therefore easier to control. Perhaps the reason this belief has come about is because of the historical fact that during World War II the German Gestapo used fluoride in their Nazi concentration camps with a view to subduing their prisoners.

The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany`s Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride`s supposed effect on children`s teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)

The following letter was received by the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee Wisconsin, on 2 October 1954, from Mr. Charles Perkins, a chemist:

"I have your letter of September 29 asking for further documentation regarding a statement made in my book, The Truth About Water Fluoridation, to the effect that the idea of water fluoridation was brought to England from Russia by the Russian Communist Kreminoff. "In the 1930`s, Hitler and the German Nazi`s envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place. ...

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual`s power to resist domination, by slowly poisoning and narcotizing a certain area of the brain, thus making him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him. [A convenient light lobotomy]

"The real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children`s teeth. If this were the real reason there are many ways in which it could be done that are much easier, cheaper, and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination and control and loss of liberty.

"When the Nazis under Hitler decided to go into Poland, both the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans, and personnel, and the scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plan to communize the world. ...

"I was told of this entire scheme by a German chemist who was an official of the great IG Farben chemical industries and was also prominent in the Nazi movement at the time. I say this with all the earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years` research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorine--any person who drinks artificially fluorinated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person mentally or physically." CHARLES E. PERKINS, Chemist, 2 October 1954.

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Tatjana-Mihaela 6 years ago from Zadar, CROATIA

Wow, Cindy!

Well, in quantities we are taking fluor today it is far too much for our bodies and its intake produces very bad health results! It does negatively influence our mental functions (in addition to everything what you described on so persuading way)...

Thumbs up for your excellent article.


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jiberish 6 years ago from florida

Misty, you really did your homework on this one. It's a little scary that everything we use has fluoride. This hub should be used as study material in colleges. Kudos!


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Tatjana, I knew fluoride was really bad, but it is thanks to fellow hubber PJK and a comment he made on my artificial sweeteners hub that made me decide to write this article.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi Jiberish, so pleased you liked this hub, I felt it was important that people realised what fluoride can do to them before they simply blindly consume it assuming it must be safe if the authorities put it in our water etc!!!


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jim10 6 years ago from ma

Great article. It is nice to see all of this info in one place. I stick with Fluoride free toothpaste. I wish I could accomplish a getting a filter that gets rid of fluoride but, they are ridiculously expensive. It would be nice if the government would question the idea of putting pollutants into our drinking water. The nursery water that is still on store shelves is the most disturbing of all. I guess if the choice was up to the citizens companies would have nothing else to filter away all of their chemicals. Lucky Us!


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H P Roychoudhury 6 years ago from Guwahati, India

It is a known fact that Fluoride is highly toxic. Because of its toxic effect it is used in regulated amount as insecticide for teeth cavity. Now hearing that it does more harm than good, the use of Fluoride toothpaste becomes dangerous. A great information and warns protection. Thank you for sharing with such a vital life saving information.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Jim, great to see you here. It is worrying I totally agree, and certain areas have stopped adding it to the water supplies, but even worse is to see it in bottled baby water!

Hi H P, I just hope the people who read this seriously think twice about everything they consume from now on in. Thanks for the feedback.


nyscof 6 years ago

The best way to rid yourself of fluoride is through political action. People need to lobby, petition, call, write, email and visit their legislators on the local, state and federal levels. If enough people do this, it will be politically unpopulator to add unnecessary,money-wasting and health-robbing fluoride chemicals into the water.

Please also sign the letter/petition to Congress here

http://congress.FluorideAction.Net


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compu-smart 6 years ago from London UK

Hi Misty!

You have converted me! right now!! I was always skeptical about the safety and health concerns of fluride, and this article has truly put the nail in the coffin!! No more tap water and also, fluride toothpaste is now at the top of my shopping list!!

Thankyou! thankyou! thankyou!

;)


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pjk_artist 6 years ago from Turkey Point, ON

Well done Misty-Cindy!

I'm speechless sitting here trying out compliments in my head to respond to this hub ... even now words fail to express ... adjectives fail me ...


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Ben Zoltak 6 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

I've heard this years ago Misty. It fits into a lot of conspiracy theories, and the fact that it was spearheaded by the Nazis and the aluminum industry underscores the reality to me. The problem is, where I live, it's dam near impossible to avoid. Anyway, you've got me thinking about buying a water filter again.

Thanks Misty!

Ben


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Hub Llama 6 years ago from Denver, CO

Um, did you read anything that wasn't by anti-fluoride crusaders? Every single industrialized nation in the world adds fluoride to its drinking water. In fact, the scattering of communities that go against the grain have less healthy populations and much higher dental problems.

The amount of fluoride and the kind is the key. Fluoride in large quantities is super dangerous, but the fact is that there is probably a 90% chance that you are getting more toxic amounts of lead (still too low to be any danger unless your plumbing is really old) than you are of fluoride.

Have your tap water tested. Then research any fact-based book or organization you choose and you'll find the number is way below anything considered even remotely dangerous.

Ok, stepping off of soapbox...


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Nyscof, if people feel strongly enough they should act to make the government change this practice.

Compu Smart, you are more than welcome and thanks for the feedback.

Hi PJK, well you gave me the idea to research and put this down in a hub, so well done you :)


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi Ben, Well at least try to buy a water filter that definitely removes fluoride as many such as "Brita" don't! Good luck :)


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi Hub Llama, actually I read a huge amount of sites on this subject using various search terms, and I found very little if any evidence backing up the fact Fluoride works positively at all, but loads of evidence that it doesn't help strengthen teeth whatsoever and is toxic poison. I also found cases of areas that have stopped using Fluoride in the water and with no adverse effects to the dental health of their residents.

I would be interested if you want to post any links here to non-government reports and not those from the aluminium industry, that show independent and unbiased evidence to show Fluoride actually does any good though!!

Thanks.


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ocbill 6 years ago from hopefully somewhere peaceful and nice

really interesting hub. The part about green tea intake is surprising because it reduces the health risks of many diseases frommany studies. It evenlowered the risk to contract the flu. I dont have the link but believe me, I am a real digger for health studies and information. it was pretty conclusive with 80% of one group drinking green tea, 3 times per day recovered quicker than the other group or did not contract H1N1, while the other group did not take green tea,


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi Ocbill, it is possible that this element of the conclusions was based on the reduction of the cumalative intake of fluoride, rather than being isolated in it's own right, and that if no other Fluoride was consumed it could provide health benefits.

Thanks for the feedback :)


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Paradise7 6 years ago from Upstate New York

Astonshing, Mistyhorizon. I never knew, and I think a lot of people didn't, that fluoride was BAD for you. This was a very well-written and informative hub. Thanks for the information.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Paradise, until I researched it thoroughly I never knew the extent of just how bad it was for you either.


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Bard of Ely 6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

This is brilliant, Cindy, and I am reposting at Facebook! It really annoys me how we are being poisoned with this crap. It is hard to avoid the stuff - even the bottled waters often have fluoride if you check. The water on Tenerife has far too much fluoride even by the authorities admissions - we have had news stories telling residents not to use the water in some areas because of this on a few occasions! It is killing the Dragon Trees here too and I have a hub on that showing the signs of damage. I have proved this by stopping watering my Dragos with tap water and they are OK unless too far gone. Many in the streets are dying! Can I get this info published in a newspaper here? No, but I have tried! And they wonder why I am a conspiracy theorist!

http://hubpages.com/politics/Is-Fluoride-killing-t...


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fishtiger58 6 years ago from Momence, Illinois

I had no idea. Now I'm scared. Glad I have a whole house filter. Going to check to see if it also filters out fluoride.I sure hope so.


KellyEngaldo 6 years ago

Excellent article! I just started researching fluoritis and found your article complete. You just made my job much easier! Thank you! I will be sure to link to this article for the references I need. Very well done - and great photos! This is an issue the United States is reluctant to address. The skeletal fluoritis is a concern for the United States aging populace.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Steve (Bard), I knew you would appreciate this article and hoped you would come across it. In fact I think it may have been you who first mentioned to me about the problems with fluoride back when we shared the apartment in Tenerife, and somewhere at the back of my mind it stuck with me. Also, thanks for the link to your article, as it all helps spread the word of the dangers :)


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi fishtiger, I hope you found that your water filter does remove Fluoride, if not it might be worth upgrading to one that does :)

Hi Kelly, I am so pleased this article is of use to you in your research, and I wish you every success with your efforts.


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camlo 6 years ago from Cologne, Germany

Hi Misty! I just translated this to a German friend of mine, and we are both absolutely horrified.

I didn't know any of this. It's shocking.

Yes, I'll certainly be making some changes. Next thing I'm doing is looking at the mineral statistics of Cologne's tap water. I'll probably have to get one of those filters.

No wonder so many people are getting Alzheimer nowadays, and having hip replacements.

A very well written, and well organized Hub. And thanks for sharing this information. All the best, Camlo


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Camlo, I am now changing to Fluoride free toothpaste and have come off Prozac / Fluoxetine in order to avoid Fluoride as much as possible.


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DentistWestPalm 6 years ago from West Palm Beach

Awesome article post on the dangers of flouride. Most people wouldn't think it was harmful -including me. Because we are taught that flouride is suppose to be good for your teeth. Until you discover helpful info such as this.

Keep up the great Hub post mistyhorizon2003


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks DentistWestPalm, a great comment as I assume from your name you are a Dentist yourself. Cheers.


No To The NWO 6 years ago

We need to realize that our government is dumming us down to control us.


Vince 6 years ago

Fluoride is not bad for you. It is considered by most public health experts to be one of the major advances in public health of the last century. Unfortunately, it has become politicized and the target of Internet conspiracy theorists. What one must remember is that everything is toxic (even water and oxygen) at high enough levels. "The dose makes the poison" and so when reading the claims of people citing support to the claims of the evils of fluoride one must pay attention to make sure they are not citing industrial exposures, high dose supplements, etc etc.

•It does reduce tooth decay dramatically.

•It saves society money by promoting better health.

•It is associated with less gum disease, which may be a contributing factor in heart disease.

•Nearly all dental fluorosis (mottling of the teeth from too much fluoride) is from eating toothpaste or taking too much supplementation in pill form, not from drinking water.

•There is no credible evidence that it causes cancer.

•There is no credible evidence that fluoride from drinking water causes osteoporosis or fractures (taking high dose pills can and studies of drinking water are on-going).

•There is no credible evidence that it causes birth defects, ADD or other toxicity at the doses found in water.

- Wiki answers. I'm a lot more convinced by their argument than yours.

Oh, and as for your graph about flouridation and IQs, correlation does not equal causation.


Vince 6 years ago

Please keep in mind that while I don't currently side with you, I'm open-minded and will change my opinion if you actually convince me. You just have some convincing to do.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Fair enough Vince, you are entitled to your own viewpoint and beliefs based on what you have read. I correlated information from many many sources that overall seemed to be very convincing to me, and apparently others too. I would be interested in hearing of your sources too in order to see what they say for myself. Naturally you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. Thanks for the comment and the feedback.


Vince 6 years ago

Actually, I've been researching the subject more and I'm starting to oppose flouridation. I was thrown off by your argument at first because of the IQ v. Flouridation graph. It is a logical fallacy, please remember that correlation doesn't equal causation.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks for coming back Vince. I am really glad you have done further research for yourself, because nothing beats reading it "first hand" before making a decision. Keep on reading and forming opinions based on this. Much appreciate you coming back and commenting again.


fred 6 years ago

i am so lost why would people be so heartless to sell fluoride to it consumer if it a poison WTF..... What is this world coming to. I don't know who to trust or what to believe it make me very paranoid.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

The world and its politicians is a very selfish place Fred, it is wise to be sceptical until you know you can trust a person fully. To be honest, in cases where a problem can be solved by "dumping it on the masses", governements frequently have no conscience, (you only have to look at how they treat the planet and the creatures that reside on it with us!)


maow 6 years ago

Great article! This has sealed the deal for me. Also, I am glad that you keep up with the comments on this page. Tomorrow I will buy non fluoride toothpaste, and look into less fluorides waters. Saving up for a good filter as well. Thank you for this very informative article.


Ahlywog 6 years ago

I really don't know what to believe in regards to whether fluoride is good or bad for you. Either way I think about it like this; it is not within the governments mandate to medicate the population. If I'm genuinely worried about the health of my teeth I'll brush and floss more.

When government officials begin to believe that they have the right to force medications on the populous, and we allow them to do it, where does it stop?


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi maow, I am so glad you read this. I feel really strongly now that fluoride is NOT good for you, and definitely not the way to go, so I am pleased you saw this article and are inclined to feel the same way.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi Ahlywog, I agree, so beware of articles and toothpaste's claiming fluoride is good for your teeth, it just doesn't add up based on all the evidence I have researched.


April 6 years ago

My step-children's grandfather (they live with him & grandma-long story) always sends the kids to visit us with Tom's Natural Toothpaste and won't let them wear sun screen. I just thought that he was crazy and that he was suffering some post traumatic stress from "Nam".


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Well I agree with him on the toothpaste issue, but not sure I do on the sunscreen one, that sounds like a recipe for skin Cancer with the hole in the ozone layer as it is today (even if it wasn't so bad when he was younger). Thanks for commenting April.


Kevin 6 years ago

Can you say civil war, what we need is to stop being cowards and educate people now we all suffer from the greed of others the ironic key point is they not only poisened us they poisened themselves


Chris 6 years ago

@ Hub Llama, get with the program. You're naïve if you think that the government always has your best interest at heart. Fluoride is only one example of how wrong you are.

"Every single industrialized nation in the world adds fluoride to its drinking water. In fact, the scattering of communities that go against the grain have less healthy populations and much higher dental problems."

Did you ever consider that the scattered communities that go against the grain are the poorer, less-healthy communities to start with? The communities that can't afford to buy this poison for their water supplies, salt, etc...?

Many of us have known for some time that the dangers of fluoride additives far outweighed their benefits. More recently, however, we are learning just how toxic this stuff really is.

...so you can stay on your soapbox. You should be able to spot the simpletons that will listen to you up there. Here's a helpful hint: They like to argue for the sake of arguing, without a shroud of legitimate evidence to back their statements up.

As long as you insist on opening your mouth, you might as well arm yourself with some truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeU6I2qOY3k


healthnut 6 years ago

I just think it's telling that "no credible evidence" often means "lot's of evidence, but I don't recognize their names."

There is obviously tons of credible evidence to the statements in this article. Just do the research yourself, sheeple!


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shyonegb 6 years ago from Australia

I'm so impressed that you have stated the facts about fluoride. Why haven't there been a world wide protest to stop the population from being poisoned? Great Hub !!!!


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks shyonegb, a lovely compliment. I wish there was a world wide protest being organised, but I am guessing it would be ignored regardless.


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lambservant 6 years ago from Pacific Northwest

Scary indeed. Good article and well researched.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks lambservant, it certainly makes you think doesn't it!


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Hopmoney wizard 6 years ago from barak

you did well on your article well said.its shocking to know that there's an adverse effect to our health.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Hopmoney wizard, I am glad you found this useful.


truth seeker 6 years ago

I have been looking into floride and found your article very complete. The bottom part about conspiracies is very interesting stuff.


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thank you Truth Seeker, I am pleased you enjoyed this hub and found it useful in your research.


Mr Messy 6 years ago

if its so bad for you, why then do politicians drink water with flouride in it?


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mistyhorizon2003 6 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

It is very likely most of them are not "in the know" about the dangers either, and in any case, small amounts probably won't do significant damage. You are also working on an assumption that they are not drinking bottled water or filtered water when you see them drinking it.


Joey 5 years ago

Fluoride is not bad!!! Wow people just soak stuff up like sponges, your all sheep.


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Joey, I would like to know your basis for knowing that "Fluoride is not bad", because a simple empty statement with no quoted research data means absolutely nothing. It is like saying "Of course the moon is made of cheese", even when the evidence shown says it clearly isn't. In fact your actual statement that says "Wow people just soak stuff up like sponges, your all sheep.", actually seems to perfectly describe yourself and your own blind belief that "Fluoride is not bad". Perhaps you might want to reconsider your own position eh!


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conspiracy news 5 years ago

Great Article. Thanks for sharing. A couple of real good vintage photo's here. Thanks, once again. Here's another good article about the effects of flouride.

http://welcometoafreeworld.blogspot.com/2010/07/ne...

Brain effects:

Recent studies have found that fluoride is a neurotoxin which can affect cerebral functioning, with some research associating the ingestion of fluoridated water with reduced intelligence. A number of studies concerning the effect of fluoridated water in regards to children's intelligence come from China, where investigators have compared the Intelligence Quotient (IQ) of young people living in high- and low-fluoride areas. (8)


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks for commenting conspiracy news, and thanks for that great link. I just followed it and it is full of useful information on this very subject.

Glad you enjoyed the hub too :)


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digitalthinker 5 years ago from Southeast USA

Makes you wonder if the increased consumption of bottled water, if bottled water doesn't contain fluoride, is causing people to be less docile with regards to government behavior?


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Interesting thought digitalthinker and not one that occurred to me I have to say.


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GmaGoldie 5 years ago from Madison, Wisconsin

mistyhorizon2003,

This is great research and information. I will be sure to link back to you in my two fluoride articles. Great job!


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks GmaGoldie, I am flattered. If you wish me to link to your article within this one please let me know the link and I shall add it in the links section.


Fauconoir 5 years ago

Here is a link to an article referring to the nations that do not endorse the use of fluoride

file:///Users/newuser/Desktop/Fluoridation%20status%20of%20some%20countries.webarchive


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Fauconoir, but that it not a working link. It looks as if you might have taken it from your computer Desktop. Can you re-post the actual link please? Thanks


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CentralParkPeriod 5 years ago

Interesting but little bit doubtful.Need more research for clarification.Thanks for the Hub.


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

You are welcome CentralParkPeriod. Thanks for commenting.


Kels 2 5 years ago

I can see how a person would write this article. However it is important to be professional. At the end where I read the comments that the women who wrote this article had replied, I found the women to be very non professional in her response to one of the people who had good things to fluoride and disagreed with her.

As for what I have to say about this, I say it is true to a small degree but also very false.

Here are a few comments I have from statements within the article:

"Fluoride is a pollutant - a by-product of copper, iron and aluminum manufacturing"

This statement is false. Fluoride is a natural element we get from the earth. You can even buy fluoride rocks in gem stores.

“The problem of how to legally dispose of fluoride was solved in the 1930s when a study (funded by one of the country's largest aluminum companies) concluded that fluoride prevented tooth decay.”

This is also false. Fluoride was found around this year but it was found by a man in Colorado. He found this because he noticed people in this area were drinking from a spring and that they had brown pitted teeth. He found that there was high amounts of fluoride in the water that was causing these problems in the peoples teeth (the fluoride was naturally occurring in the spring). He also noticed these people had a huge decrease in the amount of decay present in their teeth. He named the stains on their teeth "Colorado Brown Stain." (You can look up that name and see where fluoride was found). From this research they looked into fluoride further and found that in VERY small amounts it is good for the teeth and does not hurt you in any way.

“Studies link fluoride chemicals to bone fractures lowered IQ, thyroid dysfunction, cancer, allergies and more.”

This is a false statement. There has been several research tests done that have come out with no results yet to show that fluoride leads to cancer or any other problem. I have never seen in a single person's chart that a patient has allergies to fluoride, nor have I ever heard of such a thing so I wouldn't think this is true unless I saw the research in front of me from a reliable source.

“New research proves old-time dentists' premise was wrong. Fluoride's possible benefits, if any, are topical. So there's no good reason to swallow fluoride or put it into the water supply.”

This is also false. There is a lot of research that shows that ingesting fluoride in small amounts frequently is very beneficial compared to topical fluoride. Fluoride is an element that kills Streptococcus mutans (the primary bacteria that causes cavities) on contact. When we ingest fluoride during our pregnancy it is woven into the structure of our babies teeth and bones while the fetus is growing inside of us. The baby’s teeth buds are forming while they are growing inside of us. There has been no scientific research to show that the fluoride hurts the fetus in any way with small doses. After the baby is born, more permanent teeth continue to form under the gums within the jaw until the child is around the age 16 (wisdom teeth will form in teen years).

Because the fluoride is woven into the tooth structure, it kills the bacteria on contact when it enters the tooth surface. Topical fluoride is only on the outer part of your tooth and washes off daily. It is great but only if you are using it constantly and regularly. If you miss using it a few days you miss all of the benefits and give the bacteria opportunity to invade. This is why ingested fluoride while the teeth are forming under the gums is better than using a topical fluoride only once the teeth are erupted fully. Although after your teeth are done forming ingesting it is not necessary, putting it in the water in low doses is an easy way to keep people getting the topical effects on a regular basis. Fluoride is put into water as 1ppm (this means to every one million gallons of water, there is one gallon of fluoride added).

“When you consume too much fluoride, your teeth can become discolored and crumble.”

This is very true. In HIGH doses this does happen. But you have to be drinking very high amounts that are only in natural springs (Such as the Colorado Spring that caused the Colorado Brown Stain in peoples teeth). All waters in the US are tested before they are okayed for drinking so a person would never have this happen in their own drinking water at home.

“A number of different studies have linked fluoride to as many as 10,000 cancer deaths per year, with a high incidence of bone cancer among men exposed to fluoridated water.”

I would ask someone to show me the research on this. There have been several scientific research studies done and this is not true to be found to my knowledge.

“Four major studies involving 480,000 children (US, 39,000; Japan, 22,000; India, 400,000; Tucson, 29,000) comparing fluoridated and non-fluoridated areas showed no significant difference in decay rates. Proven is that a higher intake of fluoride will actually cause MORE cavities, especially for children with low dietary calcium intake.”

I would want to know the names of these studies. I don't think that these came from reliable resources. People will put anything on the internet to make something look true that they are trying to prove. I would be skeptical of resources that the author of this article used since the previous research she has posted in this article was false. I would also like to see what the people’s diets were like who were in these studies. Did the people in the foreign countries have high carbohydrate and sugar diets? (carbs and sugar cause tooth decay if consumed frequently). How frequently were all the people in the study eating? (it takes 20 minutes for the pH within a person’s mouth to become neutralized again by their saliva. If a person eats frequently they are more prone to cavities since their oral pH is constantly decreased). Did the people in the other countries have as good of oral hygiene? Were they drinking from water with unsafe amounts of fluoride that really dose harm your teeth due to crumbling and pitting (brown staining also)? There are too many outside factors that could influence them having false positive results. The test groups have to be exactly the same to achieve accurate resulty. I would be skeptical of the groups being the same since they are very different locations with different cultures and environmental influences.

“Those little white spots visible on the teeth of many children are called dental fluorosis, a condition which not only predisposes them to decay, but also provides a sign that systemic fluoride poisoning is taking place. Dental fluorosis appears to serve as a red flag for future bone fractures as well.”

Once again this does not cause bone fractures. Fluorosis is very common in people who consume excess fluoride. It is a defect in the enamel of the teeth which is chalky white. (I just saw a patient today who had this. This patient also had zero cavities and was not so great with his/her oral hygiene and this person’s gums were suffering from lack of good hygiene but the teeth looked wonderfully healthy. This patient was in his/her mid 30s had never had a cavity. I would say that is a pretty good reason not to believe that fluorosis causes tooth decay. Mild fluorosis is just not pleasant to the eye). Fluorosis occurs when a person ingests too much fluoride as a child. It can occur when a person swallows toothpaste as a child while they were also taking fluoride supplements. It is important to not ingest too much so you need to know when you have fluoridated water so you don't over due it with other ingested fluorides.

This is a comment I read:

“When government officials begin to believe that they have the right to force medications on the populous, and we allow them to do it, where does it stop?”

Our government said it is okay to put the fluoride in the water. It is each individual city that gets to vote it in within a state. That is why some towns in Oregon have it and others don't along with all other states.

I liked this in another comment...very true indeed:

“What one must reme


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi 'kels 2' , I am 'the woman' who wrote this article, and I am professional enough to allow your comment and not delete it, not least because I have to ask where exactly I was rude to someone who had 'good things' to say about fluoride???

My sources of research are for the most part listed in the links section if you want to check out the data for yourself, and whilst this is always going to be one of those controversial subjects that splits opinions down the middle, the fact remains that certain nations don't even condone the use of fluoride, as confirmed by 'fauconoir' in the comments section above. Surely a whole nation would be unlikely to do this for no good reason!

Your extraordinarily lengthy comment actually warrants a whole hub in itself, and I don't have time to go through your response point by point tonight as it is after 06.00am here in the UK. Can I constructively suggest you create a hub from your comment, send me a link, and I will happily add it to my links section in order to provide a balanced view.

I would still like to know which comment you thought I was rude on though, as I am only ever 'sharp' with people who are rude to me on their comment first. Good manners cost nothing, and mine have been complimented over my entire life from childhood to now.


Kels 2 5 years ago

I believe positive criticism when dealing with the public so that people are not put down for saying what they believe in. I thought that all of the comments were very neutral except the one that stated"

"Wow people just soak stuff up like sponges, your all sheep.", actually seems to perfectly describe yourself and your own blind belief that "Fluoride is not bad". Perhaps you might want to reconsider your own position eh!

Just seemed a little harsh is all


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi Kels2, well I only wanted to make the poster think about what he had posted. Unlike yourself, he failed to make any effort to back up his case, (and I respect you for being detailed in your argument). My gut feeling is that the poster in question was 'Trolling' as in a couple of sentences he attacked virtually every other previous poster. I simply acted as the voice of all of them by quoting back to him his own blank statement, and not surprisingly he never came back to me with a response.

I do appreciate you coming back with a response, and I appreciate your input into this discussion also.


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

PS. It was him that posted the original comment that said "Wow people just soak stuff up like sponges, your all sheep.", I just quoted it back to him.


AandO 5 years ago

Thank You for a thought provoking write up. It really amazes me that people come against articles such as this. Most times they attack the messenger because they can't refute with facts the message. In any event you did provide balance here so any attempt to take away from that is mute from the start.

It would IMHO be wise to question the legitimacy of any Government that adds fluoride to the water being that the Nazi's used it for nefarious purposes. This is an area of current research by myself and is the reason I came across your article.

Thanks again from Southern California


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Aand0, I am really pleased you are interested in this subject. I have just found out we are lucky where we live, as on our 'complex' the landlord doesn't use mains water, instead we are actually being fed by a 'borehole', so all our water is completely untreated. The fact no-one has ever been taken ill as a result, and we still have as many teeth as the average person, just goes to prove my point.... Fluoride is not necessary!


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Ms Dee 5 years ago from Texas, USA

Oh, wow! This is almost overwhelming--this and your Prozac hub. I wonder if my health has gone so downhill having been on Prozac since '98. In '03 I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia. What a wealth of information here!


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks so much for commenting Ms Dee, I am delighted that you found this so useful. :)


cdw7 5 years ago from Lamar County

before i start sorry if this ends up being too long,

and this isn't soully about Fluoride its about your main brand toothpaste like Colgate, Aquafresh, and others.

but anyways i was able to get rust off of a pair of steel or stainless steel pliers eventually over a one 30 min session by using a soft oral b toothbrush after dampening the brush and putting a pea size amount of toothpast on the pliers. after 30mins of nonstop brushing with the toothpaste listed below and even more after 3 more nonstop 30min sessions, but it took an hour to show any obvease signs on the more concentrated part of the pliers that had rust on it and help make it easier to open and close them. now wonder why would i want something that would get rust off that affectively, but yet every none organic tooth past has those same ingredents i list below.

i've recentally started buying organic toothpaste, but i've still got a tube of a main store bought brand toothpaste that's collgate max fresh with mouthwash beads that has:

0.24% Sodium Fluoride (0.15%w/v fluoride ion)which is the highest i've seen in toothpast, Hydrated Silica,Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Saccharin

i'm sure theirs more than that in it, but that's the main ones

Sodium Fluoride: One of the main ingredients in rat poison and toothpaste

Surprisingly, fluoride has NEVER been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Additionally, a 1990 study stated that fluoride has been shown to NOT reduce cavities and scientists are now linking fluoride to dental deformity, arthritis, allergic reactions and about 10,000 unnecessary deaths each year from cancer. (From “Fluoride an equivocal carcinogen. National Cancer Institute)

Hydrated Silica: A whitener that damages tooth enamel

Hydrated silica, which is primarily used as an abrasive in toothpaste, is made from a crystallized compound found in quartz, sand, and flint.

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS): Used clinically to irritate skin

Perhaps the most dangerous ingredient in personal-care products is Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS). Because SLS has a foaming property, it is added to toothpastes in order to generate foam and give the impression that the toothpaste is working. However, SLS has been found to be quite corrosive and harmful to skin tissue says a report by the American College of Toxicity.

In the cleaning industry, SLS is used in products such as garage floor cleaners, engine degreasers and car wash soaps. Elsewhere, SLS is used for clinical testing as a primary skin irritant. Laboratories use it to irritate skin on test animals and humans so that they may then test healing agents to see how effective they are on the irritated skin.

The journal of the American College of Toxicology reports that SLS can penetrate and be retained in the eye, brain, heart, and liver with potentiall y harmful long-term effects. Also found in most shampoos including “no tears” baby shampoos, SLS can keep children’s eyes from developing properly, can cause cataracts in adults, can retard healing, and can impair hair growth.

FD&C Blue Dye # 1 & 2

Using FD & C Blue Dyes 1 & 2 is just like ingesting crude oil as it too, is synthesized from petroleum. These dyes were originally made from coal tar oil, which is a black, sticky tar by-product of steel making and petroleum distillation, and is a source of numerous complex chemicals. Through repeated human exposure, some of these isolated coal tar components were classified as active carcinogens, ultimately leading to government regulations and restrictions.

Sodium saccharin is an ingredient in RAT POISON! Now what in the hell is this product doing in toothpaste and in YOUR mouth? This stuff is a rat carcinogen (causes cancer in rats). It is used in laboratory tests on rats. It is used in your toothp aste as a sweetener though!

this is the list of sites i got this information from, but i have found a bunch more sites

www.downwithbasics.com/?p=7

www.dherbs.com/articles/beware-of-toothpaste-222.html

before i end this i've never heard of the lack of Fluoride causing any problems in the body, as far as your teeth are concerned sugary foods are your main cause of cavities as well as soda pops. Calcium is what strengthens your teeth and bones, as well as your diet plays a big role in it to.


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi cdw7, that has got to be the best and most insightful comment ever left on this article. I really hope many people come here and see it and read it. Fortunately this particular article does get a lot of visits, so it would seem many more people out there are becoming concerned about the dangers of Fluoride, and now indeed 'toothpaste' as you have pointed out. I learned even more after reading your comment, so again, thank you for posting it here :)


cdw7 5 years ago from Lamar County

with all the things fluorides in, it would be very very challenging to keep track of how much fluoride your taking in in a day, week, month, and/or year, from Food (note from pestesides they used on it), water, toothpaste, mouthwash (note toothpaste and mouthwash even if you don't swallow any your mouth is still 90% effective in absorption of liquids and liquid like substance as well as oils for sores in the mouth just like the skin is very effective in absorbtion).

in a sense, this will also fit in with this subject. i wouldn't trust bottled water ether because theirs no regulation that requires to list the nutrition in it other than your common things like fats, sodium, carbs, and sugars. and the only way you get any info on if theirs any vitamins and/or minerals in it, is if it has enough in it other wise you get something like "not a significant source" what would be considered a a significant source of Fluoride for it to be listed.

also, i dare any of you to get a good type of filter i use a PUR brand filter for my PUR brand picher it don't say anywhere on it about FLUORIDE, but anyways continuing on buy a at least 5 different brands of bottled water perferablly those that say natural spring water and put each one in their and sample it BEFORE and AFTER you put it through the filter. this is something i have done personally, i'm sure you will be able to taste a difference.anyways, back to the fluoride subject you won't be able to tell how much Fluorides in the bottle of water, milk i've even heard about them having it put in it. just because they say for other things like tape water supposablly has a limit their not suppose to go over one PPM (one part per million i think it is) any how you only have their word for it. i'm one that don't trust such $ profiting businesses so wholeheartedly just because of the $$ and power that gives them. but with bottle water there is NO sort of serious type of examination ( i guess that would be the best word to use) of the water to make sure of the waters purity.

another good site that goes more in depth about fluoride are these

http://www.just-think-it.com/no-f.htm

http://www.fluoridation.webs.com/

It has been used as a pesticide for mice, rats and other small pests. A 10-pound infant could be killed by 1/100 of an ounce and a 100-pound adult could be killed by 1/10 of an ounce of fluoride. The Akron Regional Poison Center indicates that a 7-ounce tube of toothpaste contains 199 mg. of fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25-pound child."

http://www.viewzone.com/fluoride.html

a VERY INTRESTING READ ABOUT BOTTLED WATER THAT PROVES SOME OF MY POINT IS HERE

http://www.allaboutwater.org/tap-water.html

http://www.allaboutwater.org/regulations.html

Water filters currently provide the best and healthiest solution to the problems of both bottled water and tap water.

Water filters remove more dangerous contaminants than any other purification method, and they are uniquely designed to work with municipally treated water. The water they produce is not subject to phthalate contamination, and they are able to remove cryptosporidium from drinking water, a feat that neither municipal water treatment plants nor bottled water companies have yet managed. Also, drinking filtered water is a much more economical practice than drinking bottled water. The pure water product of a water filter costs very little more than untreated tap water. Furthermore, because water filters use no more energy than is already required to propel water through a home’s plumbing system, they circumvent several of the environmental problems of the bottled water industry.

http://www.allaboutwater.org/filtered-water.html


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks for the further great information cdw7, I am looking forward to following your links. We are lucky in the complex where we live, as our water is pumped by our landlord from a natural borehole, so actually has no additives whatsoever, and is naturally filtered in the earth, rocks etc. I am dreading when we move house because we will no doubt be back on treated water again.


cdw7 5 years ago from Lamar County

ive got some videos under my youtube channel 11000charles about fluoride that's real intresting, that you might want to watch called fluoride decption its got 3 parts.

i'd like to know if they help out more if you watch them


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

If you want to post the links here cdw7 that is fine by me :)


ErikOnly 5 years ago

GREAT ARTICLE WHICH LEADS ME TO ASK, does anybody know what are some of the best fluoride filters for drinking water?


ErikOnly 5 years ago

Great article!!!! What are your best suggestions for fluoride filters for drinking water?


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks ErikOnly, I personally can't answer this because I live in the British Channel Islands, so the range of products, brand names etc is going to be different here to the US. I know the ones like 'Brita' do not remove fluoride, so it is important to verify with the supplier that the filter you are buying will remove Fluoride. I am sure a Google search will quickly come up with some good filters for you to consider.


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onereyna 5 years ago

Hello Misty I love your article. I'm trying to make my family and friends aware but it is so hard when we are used to trust what we are told.

I read one of the comments where it says that granpa won't let his grandkids use sun screen.

I have just found so many nonsense in the system and have been reading a lot and watching documentaries.

Fluoride and amalgam are toxic. Our food with so many chemicals is not so good. Eating healthy can actually cure better than drugs etc.

Somewhere there is the idea that sun actually PREVENTS cancer. I haven't researched that particularly topic but I already kind of believe. So it's an interesting topic to research.

Gov wants us sick, weak, dumb and naïve so they can do whatever they please.


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mistyhorizon2003 5 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Hi Onereyna, you make some very good points, and I agree that eating healthy can certainly prevent most problems, and quite possibly cure many too. I too watch loads of documentaries and read loads of stuff, hopefully overall this gives me a fairly balanced view. I wrote this based on what I read and saw, and maybe in time it will be proven without doubt to be correct, or even incorrect. Since I wrote it I had one lengthy post that was in opposition to the information within it. Some of what the person stated did sound potentially valid, but sadly it was also full of sarcasm and quite offensive in places, so I denied the comment. Generally though the majority of comments agree, or at least are open to the fact there is probably something in this criticism of Fluoride.


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Ruh Fortune 4 years ago

I have stopped using flouridated toothpaste years ago. I have been promoting and using natural and organic products for just over a year now. Whether we believe flouride to be harmful or not is not really important as opinions will always differ. But perhaps we must think about whether there is at all a need for flouride in our drinking water and other products, including toothpaste. Do our bodies require flouride to function properly? Would any of us suffer from a flouride deficiency should we avoid it? Considering all of the arguments to and for flouride, I've decided to decrease exposure to it as much as possible for my own peace of mind. I am not particularly anxious to be anyone's "guinea pig"!


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Ruh, I feel much like you do, and prefer not to take any chances. Natural and organic is usually the best for most things if you ask me :)


lreddy 4 years ago

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Harlan Colt 4 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

Try to tell people this stuff and they think you are a nut. I quit using fluoride over 10 years ago. People think I am crazy. This is an awesome hub and I am glad you wrote it! Great job dear.

- Harlan


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks Harlan, I know what you mean, I guess people are too used to it in their lives, and it is really hard to get it out of your life as it is in so many things. Pleased to hear you have achieved this in your life. :)


cdw7 4 years ago from Lamar County

hey again mistyhorizon

i've came across a site about fluoride that's much more informing than any of the 30 i've came across so far

tuberose.com/Fluoride.html

i hope this gives you more info than you had before


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks cdw7, looks good from checking it out, albeit briefly because I am really busy right now. :)


pursuedrew 4 years ago

Thanks misty! Steller presentation. I urge everyone to look into the methods of detoxing your body of flouride.. its simple and inexpensive. Also look into reverse osmosis water purification systems (or RO). This is the best method of removing impurities (including flouride). It ends up saving you a boat load of money over time compared to bottled water.

I have spent counless hours researching the harms and benefits of flouride consumption and I must say.. very well done ma'am!


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks pursuedrew, really nice praise and I am thankful you made the suggestions here that you did. I hope people do make their own investigations too, but some don't, and blindly follow the masses.


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ktrapp 4 years ago from Illinois

This is incredibly interesting and the flouride/IQ graph is fascinating. I am definitely intrigued by all of this and plan on doing even more reading on the subject. Thanks for your thorough research!


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Really pleased you enjoyed this ktrapp, and that you found it interesting. The subject is fascinating, and I am now very wary of fluoride, although I still get told by various commenters that this is a load of nonsense and fluoride is fine. I am of the opinion that there is no smoke without fire, and if I could I would eradicate it from my diet totally.


af85 4 years ago

All I wanted to say is: Don't buy bottled water. Don't, trust me. The water and the bottles are contaminated. Drink well water or boil, filter, and purify your own.


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Thanks af85, your info is very useful :)


jj16 4 years ago

I think you need to include a lot more information in regards to the IQ graph you have posted. Essentially, it is a graph that is made little mention of in the article. You have made no mention of the scientific article it came from, nor did you describe how the study was conducted. Someone could easily make the following conclusion. If I were to compare the water fluoridation levels in two communities, one affluent, the other poor, and found that the poor area had a higher fluoride concentration in the drinking water, could I assume that it was the fluoride that was decreasing their IQ or possibly other factors such as socioeconomic status? Just a suggestion.


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Good point JJ16, To be honest I am too busy on other projects right now to go back and track down the source of the graph, so the best bet is for me to delete it for now and may be revamp this article again in a few months time.


er47 4 years ago

Misty,

The first step in making conclusions regarding others

research involves conducting a literature review on the topic. Which phrases/words, journals, and time frame did you select for your review? I am asking because your cited resources are weak and from biased sources.


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mistyhorizon2003 4 years ago from Guernsey (Channel Islands) Author

Well er47, if that is what research is, then I have a different method of conducting this kind of research. My research in this instance was based on gathering the information others had researched before me.

Can I ask where the cited sources are that claim my cited sources are weak and from biased sources?

Oxford English Dictionary definition of research: "the study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions/ carry out research into a subject or for a book, programme etc."

I would say what I did in order to write this article could easily be described as studying sources to establish facts, and research into a subject for a book (or in this case an article).

A TV researcher contacted me recently about using some photos of old Guernsey farming I had on one of my Hubs here. She also contacted quite a few people locally to get them to provide information for the TV programme being made. I didn't see her doing the actual research into Guernsey customs herself though, she got the information from existing locals and relied on their information to be accurate. Her job title is still researcher though, and her sources of information were not listed in the closing credits of the programme, only her name and job title!

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