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Swine Flu: 90,000 presumed could be killed.

  1. manlypoetryman profile image72
    manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago

    Estimates concerning the virus as stated today when I glanced at a News Home page: It could kill between 30,000 and 90,000 people just in the United States and as many as 1.8 million people could be hospitalized.

    Media Promoting Hysteria...or Real Factual Numbers that could occur? 

    Weigh-in on which side of this very thin edge...you believe.

    Personally...I would hope that this couldn't happen...but I feel like the media is hyping this one up...for some reason. To scare us? Or to make us be very concerned? How much more concerned can we be? What about other Nations...Are their Numbers up real high too? If not then...What does that say about this report?

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Victoria Australia where I live has a disproportionately large number of cases per capita.
      I wonder what the death rate for flue of the "standard" variety was/is?

      1. manlypoetryman profile image72
        manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good Point, Earnest (about the regular flu...that is.)...Australia hasn't weighed in on a preset number yet?  But..aren't your seasons different than ours in a southern hemisphere...so are you in or at the end of a flu season? See this is what I'm wondering...How did the U.S. come up with this range? (Other than a shot right off the hip!)

      2. SparklingJewel profile image66
        SparklingJewelposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Good point...all my sources have said any of the typical flus we have had of late (last several years) have given us many more deaths and people infected than the swine flu has shown. Even though we are not in flu season...the doctor guy on CNN (?one of the main outlets) was just saying that the swine flu is much less virulent than any flu to date and will probably "morph" (my term) into something unlike what they are currently making vaccine for, in the fall.

        So its my opinion it is a waste of time to go all fearful and and get yourself injected with woefully untested vaccine that they are throwing together too quickly and that have mercury and another chemical (I'll have to look the name up) proven to be hazardous to your health.

        I won't even repeat the conspiracy theories I have read on the "why" the media is hyping this... tongue

    2. Drew Breezzy profile image80
      Drew Breezzyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Mass hysteria for sure

      1. manlypoetryman profile image72
        manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I Think your right, DB

        http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2428/3689954606_10de23893a.jpg   
        Media trying to whip us into a frenzy! Although...Mind you I'm taking everything AE said earlier into consideration...100%!

    3. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      36,000 Americans die from flu every year.

      http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/disease.htm

      So, I am going with media hype paid for by the makers of Tamiflu. big_smile

      1. manlypoetryman profile image72
        manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yes...agree...Big Time Corporation that can effect change through advertizing money contributed to the Media to help hype it!

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        Madame Xposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Yep.

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Well I read it too and the scary thing is it was issued by the CDC and they predict half of us here will get it. I need to get my flu shots too. this year it's three of them I believe. One needs to take them in series.

    1. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I sure hope those won't all be in the butt-ocks!

      http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Tom-Hanks---Forrest-Gump--C10101930.jpeg

  3. lrohner profile image85
    lrohnerposted 7 years ago

    Media Trying To Keep Their Jobs

    1. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Exacta-mundo!

  4. lrohner profile image85
    lrohnerposted 7 years ago

    Seriously, I haven't had a flu shot in 20 years and have only had the flu once - and it wasn't that bad. I did stay away from the mall in flu season, kept Purell in hand-sanitizer mega-revenues, and only did my grocery shopping when everyone else was, well, somewhere else. But come on...

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    LOLOLOL it will be worth it if it saves me. My immune system is nil so I must take them every season. I got a flu a few years back and because of the shot it wasn't too bad. # days later I was OK. My wife got it at the same times, no shot and it took her months to get over it. Got the Hong Kong fly in 68 or whenever it was and tho;t I was gonna die.

    1. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Man...ralwus...Did not know...your immune system was so low. You my friend...better stay indoors...this flu season. Hope your immune strength returns somewhat??? Best of Fortune...!

  6. Play Free Games profile image60
    Play Free Gamesposted 7 years ago

    H1N1 and regular flu is not what we have to worry about. If the swine flu mutates, then we are in for the unknown. You want to see panic and what will happen to the stock markets around the world.
    Stay tune to round 2.

    1. lrohner profile image85
      lrohnerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No. I don't want to see. But thankyouverymuch. smile

      1. manlypoetryman profile image72
        manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I'm with you on that one...Could we just bow out of that one?

    2. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Oh man...just when i was starting to breathe again!

      1. tantrum profile image59
        tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          If you want to keep breathing don't take
        http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/scared/scared0008.gif the flu vaccine!

        1. manlypoetryman profile image72
          manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          http://www.thedctraveler.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/scary-guy.png

          Scary!

  7. Marisa Wright profile image93
    Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago

    Australia is in the middle of winter so it's our flu season. Death rates are no worse than for normal flu.  Swine flu is usually fairly mild and feels the samea as ordinary flu, so most people don't even know they've got it - so I have no idea how authorities are managing to report accurate figures. 

    As another poster said, swine flu itself is no more dangerous than ordinary flu, for most people.  Remember ordinary flu kills, too!  What they're really worried about is if it mutates into something nasty.

    1. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Ok...All very good points...and feel a little more knowledgeable after hearing another country discussed...So...then this confirms our media is going for the "hype" side to this...because there was no mention of the "mutation" of this virus would cause these kind of numbers...they just went straight into the numbers...That's  not reporting accurately. Like they really do...anyways!

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    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    Man it could be like post WWI. I certainly hope not.

  9. profile image0
    ralwusposted 7 years ago

    http://www.clipartof.com/images/thumbnail/1218.gif

    1. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/images/fs/large/36210333306.jpg


      EEWWW...That looks bad...ralwus...here try some of this stuff on that....it can snuff venom clean out of a viper with just one little dab!

    2. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Don't forget to wash your brain !! lol

      1. manlypoetryman profile image72
        manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        http://crystalgraphics.imageserver1.com/thumb/1/medium/7946

        here ya' go, mate...this might help!

        1. tantrum profile image59
          tantrumposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            With a little help from my friends !

  10. AEvans profile image71
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    It is media I wish they would not send everyone into a panic,
    if you are older get your flu shot like you normally you do. Wash hands frequently and wipe those carts, drink and eat plenty of fruits and veggies and you will survive. smile

    1. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      http://www.mikemarlin.com/phillies/scared.jpg


      Flu Shot? Please AE...say it isn't so...anything but that...even eating plenty of veggies...just NOT that!

      1. AEvans profile image71
        AEvansposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        hehehehehhe!!!!!! big_smile

  11. blue dog profile image79
    blue dogposted 7 years ago

    google donald rumsfeld and swine flu.

    1. manlypoetryman profile image72
      manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      C'mon...Blue Dog...please! Let ol' sleeping dogs lay...as the saying goes...Where you at in the Texas Hill Country...Fredricksburg? Ingram? Kerville?

      Ok...when I googled it...there might be the slightest merit...maybe...I read for two minutes...but how does he make this happen to get the $ off vaccines...when he is long since out of power...? All Conspiracy Theories have some degree of merit to them...or they couldn't sustain themselves for very long...I shouldn't be saying this on the internet but....there is mercury found in some...

      http://blog.puppetgov.com/wp-content/2008/06/black_helicopters.jpg

      wait...I think they found me...

      1. blue dog profile image79
        blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        hey, you asked the questions.  whether someone's a sleeping dog or a sorry mutt is irrelevant to the information provided.  one may not like what one reads, one may not even agree with presented facts.  likes and agreements have little bearing on those actual facts.  if you read for two minutes, then you see his financial connection to certain issues that have appeared over the years.  if eighteen million dollars isn't enough incentive to create hysteria, nothing is.

        1. manlypoetryman profile image72
          manlypoetrymanposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          http://knittersreview.com/images/05md_sleepy_sheep.jpg

          I don't know about sleeping dog...or sorry mutt...But I have seen some sleepy sheep...and believe me, blue dog, (or not)...tooting your horn real loud on the forums section of hubpages...isn't helping get the problem solved...GUARANTEE That!

          Has this been thoroughly proven as a connection...or does the facts come from one to twenty articles posted on Google? But then, I'm a skeptic even amongst skeptics...on many Conspiracy points...since he is long out of power. However...I will read more on the subject, 'cause like you reminded me I only read on it for two minutes...And surely there is always the fact that...Money talks...All else walks...

          1. blue dog profile image79
            blue dogposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            it's always amusing to watch people, when presented with raw data, begin leading the sheople down the path of misdirection.

            here's a bit more for you to swallow on searle, rumsfeld, tamiflu, and money.
            http://www.dorway.com/bressler.txt

            http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/scf2002.html

            http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? … p;aid=1148 (not that chossudovsky would skewer the facts).

            read all this, with the links, and get back to me.  make sure  that you know what you're talking about the next time you accuse me of tooting my horn "real loud."

  12. finsofts profile image59
    finsoftsposted 7 years ago

    Here in India its spreading dramatically. be cautious..

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    564626posted 7 years ago

    In india more then 50 lost their life. And more then 2,000 peoples found H1N1 positive... next few months will be dangerous.

  14. rosariomontenegro profile image88
    rosariomontenegroposted 7 years ago

    Google: Dr. Mercola swine flu.
    I'm copying and pasting some, just to give a taste:

    World Health Organization considers the severity of the H1N1 virus to be moderate, meaning H1N1 flu is an illness which does not usually require hospitalization or even medical care.
    _______________________________

    Numerous studies have shown that flu shots DO NOT work.

    According to the 2007 Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, flu vaccines reduced the risk of flu by only six percent and reduced missed work days by less than a single day, It did not, however, reduce the number of people who sought medical help or took time off from work.

    ___________________________

    Going back to the 2006 Cochrane Database, 51 separate studies concluded that the flu vaccine worked no better than a placebo in 260,000 children ranging in age from six months to 23 months.

    A study published in the October 2008 Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine also showed that flu shots in young children have not decreased the number of flu-related doctor and hospital visits.
    ________________________________

    Dr. Mercola warns that flu vaccine ingredients may be more dangerous than the flu itself because aside from using a particular virus strain, flu shots contain dangerous substances such as mercury, antifreeze, formaldehyde, phenol, aluminum, detergent,...
    _______________________________

    I didn't read about the retired politician but I tend to take seriously what Mark is saying.

  15. fivehorns profile image60
    fivehornsposted 7 years ago

    I read somewhere that one of the states in the USA is going to fine people, if they refuse the shot. The H1N1 shot hasn't even finished medical trials yet. Hmmm, maybe excessive washing of hands is the trick. The media is nuts!

 
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