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Alcoholism

  1. nikki1 profile image60
    nikki1posted 7 years ago

    Your thoughts..

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I am working on it.

      1. nikki1 profile image60
        nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Meaning?

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          sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          When I get there I will tell you my thoughts, as for now... bottoms up. big_smile

          1. nikki1 profile image60
            nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            R u seeking help?

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              sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Why?  You want to help get me drunk? big_smile

              1. nikki1 profile image60
                nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                NO sad. The other way around.

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                  sandra rinckposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  You want me to help you get drunk? big_smile

    2. drej2522 profile image89
      drej2522posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I was in the military...And I think we were/are all alcoholics..tough stuff!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      It's a sad thing.

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      My thoughts?  My thoughts don't even factor into the equation. 

      Alcoholism is a often fatal disease if not treated.

      Alcoholism is the only substance you can actually die from during detox or withdrawal. 

      Alcoholism is not taken seriously enough and people remain to resort to the under the bridge homeless men for alcoholics.

      Out of all the alcoholics around the world that enter recovery to stop drinking, only 3% will die sober and clean.

      The denial of the disease of addiction and alcoholism is a lonely and painful, cunning baffling and powerful one.

      With respect, those in recovery have a safe 24 and those trying to get into recovery, your not alone.

      Thanks,
      Kimberly
      Recovering Drug Addict

      1. Madison22 profile image61
        Madison22posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Thumbs up...thanks Lyricsingray!

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        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        smile

    5. lorlie6 profile image84
      lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      nikki1-I don't know you very well, but you seem to be asking alot of personal questions in these forums without offering up much of yourself.
      What's up with that?

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Knowledge can only be gained by asking questions. Who said knowledge was a two-way street? lol

        1. lorlie6 profile image84
          lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I suppose you're right, Cas, but it seems somehow creepy...

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      roll

      can we be more specific here too please?

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    L. Andrew Marrposted 7 years ago

    As a teenager it is a beautiful thing tongue

  3. Wendi M profile image81
    Wendi Mposted 7 years ago

    Thoughts on Alcoholism...dangerous and scary stuff!

    1. Wendi M profile image81
      Wendi Mposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Also one of my favorite hub topics.

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        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        And theyre great Hubs at that! big_smile

    2. Mockazoom profile image47
      Mockazoomposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Im an Alcoholic, I've aways have had a job, Never had a DUI, Never been in jail so I thought I was not an alcoholic but after going to a AA meeting and talking to ohter like myself I have realized that I an.

      Are you powerless over alcohol and has your life become unmanagable?

      Ther are some very good articles that maybe able to help you, take a look at "what type of drinker are you" at my hub

  4. Casper021 profile image61
    Casper021posted 7 years ago

    trying to get there smile

    1. nikki1 profile image60
      nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      ?

  5. megs78 profile image60
    megs78posted 7 years ago

    I remember watching a news report with this doctor who said that if you drink 2 drinks a day, you are considered an alcoholic...can this really be true? 

    In my head, an alcoholic is someone who cannot handle their drink, drink to get drunk, drink all the time, etc, etc.

    If I have wine with supper every night, am I an alcoholic?  Most french people have wine with supper, so are we all alcoholics?

    1. nikki1 profile image60
      nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      2 drinks doesn't mean your are an al. You just shouldn't drive.
      Alcoholics can't stop. They seem to crave it. Thats why its dangerous. They are destroying their immune system,. Not mention destroying their families,. In the process.
      It is really a sad disease. Thats when the denial kicks in.
      Possibly depression also plays a part in this disease as well.

    2. Haunty profile image83
      Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Depends on whether you can give those drinks up at free will.

    3. dinkan53 profile image77
      dinkan53posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      No, alcoholic means one who is dependent on alcohol, that means he can't survive without alcohol.

  6. IzzyM profile image86
    IzzyMposted 7 years ago

    I was a nurse, many moons ago.
    Alcoholics[then]are people with an addiction to alcohol - like they drink it instead of orange juice for breakfast!
    Heavy drinkers are those that binge drink because they don't know when to stop while on a session, but when they do stop, for to sleep for example, they will wake up next day not wanting another drink at least until their hangover is gone.
    And the rest us...well we binge drink occasionally, or have a couple every night if we feel like like it, but can TAKE it or LEAVE it.
    THAT is the difference, IMO.
    I will not go with this modern thinking that drinking more than one makes you an alcoholic.

  7. dinkan53 profile image77
    dinkan53posted 7 years ago

    An evening on a binge of drinking can also end up in a alcoholic blackout. The person forgets all or part of what happened during drinking.This is a common problem, and affects 30-40% people who take alcohol. Finally it can kill by causing severe hepatitis and lever damage, inflame the pancreas, inhibit the absorption of nutrients and damage the heart and blood vessels beyond repair.

  8. KCC Big Country profile image85
    KCC Big Countryposted 7 years ago

    From some of the research I did online, they seem to be leaning towards making a distinction between alcoholism and alcohol abuse.

    I don't buy into the idea that the occasional drinker is an alcoholic.

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    Ghost32posted 7 years ago

    I binge drank as a youngster, swore off in my late twenties, and have been temperate since.  But I've also been a social worker and group home houseparent, and my wife was a binge drinker when first we met.  Based on what I've seen:

    1.  The "typical" member of AA tends to believe everyone is an alcoholic who so much as sniffs a cork...and that anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. 

    2.  A second cousin of mine came home dead drunk one night, shot his wife to death when she attempted to leave in their pickup, lost his son to the state, did 10 years behind bars, and then worked as a counselor to other still-inmates until he fell ill and eventually died from cancer.  No question in anybody's mind he was an alcoholic.

    3.  I know a lot of folks who'll have a single drink after work, maybe two, but who never show the slightest sign of being under the influence and who don't wack out if they can't find a bottle for a few days at a time here and there.  No way they're alchoholics...except in the eyes of the AA member types as mentioned above.

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    oldenuf2nobetterposted 7 years ago

    It's not for everybody.

  11. aware profile image72
    awareposted 7 years ago

    habits are best not started . cuz there hard to stop once you do. those are my thoughts

    1. Haunty profile image83
      Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      What if I tell you you can stop a habit in 21 days?

      1. megs78 profile image60
        megs78posted 7 years ago in reply to this

        I had an epiphany about smoking as well.  I had smoked for 10 years before I quit, and for some reason, I suddenly made this part of my mind up that this was it. Not only for me, but for my kids, for my family, for everyone I love because, essentially, by smoking, I was just committing suicide in a procrastinator kind of way.

        It did take me about 3 weeks though to get the habit out of my system.  It was hard, really hard, depressing, stressful and dark...but I got through it and it has been 4 years since I quit.

        1. Haunty profile image83
          Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Congrats, megs! I'm glad you made it. smile
          I said this 21 days, because some experts insist on it. I didn't make it up. smile

          1. megs78 profile image60
            megs78posted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks!  I agree with 21 days.  It takes at least that long to clean out your system and to break the habit of hand to mouth. Of course, it was still not 'easy' after 21 days, being addicted to something is, in my opinion, something you generally have to fight for life.

            For instance, I have a friend who can smoke just on weekends, and not even think about it during the week.  Wouldnt that be great huh?  But for me, I know, if I even take one puff of a cigarette, I'm hooked again.  I know that about myself and thats why I can never smoke again.  Addictions suck!

            1. Haunty profile image83
              Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              They do. I can relate. I have two addictions, nothing of the kitchen variety. No one knows about them. I never got over them so all my respect goes out to those who have overcome their addictions, whatever they be. smile

  12. aware profile image72
    awareposted 7 years ago

    lol i was in a drug treatment center for a year. i had 2 years clean and was the treasurer of my na home group. i use to speak at hospitals and institutions. ive read the big book from cover to cover and i dont mean the bible. lol . id tell you this tho i stopped smoking cigarettes 15 years ago . how long did it take me to quit? the epiphany i had that  made it happen . took one second . not 21 days. i am aware

    1. Haunty profile image83
      Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      lol aware, are you sure it didn't take you exactly 21 days at the end of which you had that one second? wink

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      beautifully put aware, thank you big_smile

  13. aware profile image72
    awareposted 7 years ago

    heres how it went . i was really sick , flu plus bronchitis. i mean sick. i was hacking my lungs out . all of the sudden i look down. to the cigarette burning in my hand. i was smoking and really did not notice i was. just at that moment it clicked for me . that epiphany i mentioned . at that very  instance  the cigarette i was holding became my last. true story.

    1. Haunty profile image83
      Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I'm glad you had that flu then. It's great, because most of the time when they get better people also forget what made them sick in the first place. I'd call you rather special in that you could resist the urge to smoke again after you got better.

  14. waynet profile image47
    waynetposted 7 years ago

    It's a good thing, as it is a constant advert for those who are afflicted!

  15. mistywild profile image61
    mistywildposted 7 years ago

    cheers big_smile, just please don't drink and drive, click on my profile pic to find out why.

    1. aware profile image72
      awareposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      misty i agree and adhere to that motto.

    2. Haunty profile image83
      Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I was wondering when you would appear on this thread, Misty. Thanks again for sharing the experience of that tragic event. I so hope it helps people come to their senses. smile

      1. mistywild profile image61
        mistywildposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        me too, if I can just get people to read it.

  16. aware profile image72
    awareposted 7 years ago

    good to see you . smiles

  17. mistywild profile image61
    mistywildposted 7 years ago

    thanks for the kind words everyone, for those that don't know my husband lost his little brother to a 19 year old alcoholic.

  18. Madison22 profile image61
    Madison22posted 7 years ago

    One Day at a Time

  19. mega1 profile image80
    mega1posted 7 years ago

    An alcoholic is someone whose problems with drinking alcohol make problems in their life - because of alcohol consumption they lose friends, spouses, jobs, children, money, they drive while drunk and lose their license and their cars, they do not know when to quit - and often, they sure don't think they are alcoholics.  If any of the above applies - than I would say - that's an alcoholic.  The amount varies for different people.  It is epidemic in America and probably most of the world.  I cannot laugh about it, although I do laugh about almost everything else, not alcohol.

  20. WriteAngled profile image91
    WriteAngledposted 7 years ago

    A charming, sensitive, witty and caring man works hard to build a successful career. Always a heavy drinker but in control. Decades down the line, things happen in his personal life. He drinks more to numb the pain. In the course of one year, there is a true Jekyll to Hyde transformation. Slovenly, sullen, deceitful, aggressive, he shambles round town, sometimes falling into the gutter. Some days he does not drink, and the real person inside looks out of his eyes. Most of the time, he lives in a nightmare, and the nightmare extends to suck in the person whom he claims to love and who loves him.

    That is alcoholism.

    1. Haunty profile image83
      Hauntyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Sorry. sad

    2. nikki1 profile image60
      nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      sad quite tragic really.

  21. ddsurfsca profile image75
    ddsurfscaposted 7 years ago

    I was a hardened alcoholic for about 25 years, and every day after work I drank a 40 ounce malt liquor, followed by a pint of peppermint schnapps, and on the weekends the after work started about noon.  One night I was tired of the routine, tired of the expense, and tired of being what i was.  There did not seem to be anything I could do about it.  Indeed I did seem to be powerless.  That night when I finally went to bed, I had a heart to heart with God.  I told Him simply this----I cannot do anything about this problem, so I am giving up, it is your problem now, it is all Yours.  I fell asleep.  The next day, everthing went normally, and after work I stopped at the store, bought the usual, but when I got home and poured my drink, the very first sip I took tasted horrible to me....I let it sit for a few, tried it again, and it just tasted bad.  Maybe somethng was wrong with the beer, so I opened the peppermint stuff.  Again, the sip tasted like there was something wrong with it.  The next day, the same experience. .... and so on, and so on.  To this day I cannot stand the taste of any alcoholic drink.  So, in retrospect, give your problem to someone else, and it is a done deal

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

    2. lorlie6 profile image84
      lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Amazing and very powerful.

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        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        warrants another big_smile

        1. lorlie6 profile image84
          lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You betcha! lol

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            lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            lol

  22. Bovine Currency profile image61
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    Alcoholism;

    2 Degrees, established career, mortgage, dreams, shattered;

    abuser, gambler, domestic violence, diabeties;

    father, daughter

    husband, wife

    anger, desperation

    hate

    disease.

  23. Rachel Willson profile image78
    Rachel Willsonposted 7 years ago

    All I can tell you is it is a really lousy way to die.

    1. lorlie6 profile image84
      lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I came very close to that death in June of 2008 with acute pancreatitis.  No, not psorosis, as expected I imagine, but my pancreas was shot.  Near death, it took me four days in intensive care to come to the realization that I was pretty damned hopeless.  I knew I was an alcoholic for a long time prior to this, but along with constant drinking came a depression so deep that I did not care. 
      I know others that suffer in the same way as I did, but have not had God in their lives, or the resources, or the opportunity-whatever you wish to call it-and have succumbed to this horrible and cunning disease.
      I'm one of the lucky ones.

  24. nikki1 profile image60
    nikki1posted 7 years ago

    Thank you for your thoughts.

  25. donotfear profile image91
    donotfearposted 7 years ago

    Alcoholism: When you can't drink just one glass of wine while everyone else stops!  Frustrating, but we, as alcoholics, can't stop. That's why never taking the first drink is the best defense.

    I've been battling the urge to take a drink lately. Trying to keep busy with work....need to make a meeting!

    1. Wendi M profile image81
      Wendi Mposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I haven't had the urge to drink, but I could sure use a meeting too.  I'll be attending my usual 9am meeting tomorrow.

  26. kmackey32 profile image82
    kmackey32posted 7 years ago

    I think some people who are alcoholics and are in recovery or work at the recovery center tend to think anyone who picks up a drink is an alcoholic. My aunt once said because my father died in the 70's due to drinking and driving because he hit another car head on that he was an alcoholic. He was 19 years old and teenagers make wrong decisions and besides back then people weren't taught what could happen when drinking and driving.

  27. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    I started drinking my dad's whiskey when I was nine. As I got older, I started drinking beer and spiced rum. In 1987, I drink a one liter of rum a day, not to mention, all the other alcohol I consumed.

    That year, December 31, New Year Eve, I made a resolution that I would never drink spiced rum or any other rum anymore. And, I have been clean of that. However, I did remain a beer drinker and not socially...for a number of years I only drank to get drunk. I am now 41 and haven't had a beer or any liquor in almost 3 years.

    To me, there was no addiction. I had to make better choices and have. It was mind over matter- as long as you don't mind, it doesn't matter. big_smile

  28. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    The question can be posed and anyone who offers up their view or opinion is subjected to the rules for the reasoning behind the question, for which, is not always made available. big_smile

    1. lorlie6 profile image84
      lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, but in the interest of gathering information?  Seems somehow governmental, wouldn't you agree, dear pal? lol

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Well, maybe it needs to figure out how people are going to react, before it can really do damage? Maybe, the person who asked the question is really after something completely hidden and doesn't want anyone to know?

        Who knows? I usually ask a question to get a response. But, that's just me. lol lol

        1. lorlie6 profile image84
          lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          All in all, it's just getting curiouser and curiouser! lol
          Anyway, it's good to see you Casgil.

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            lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Sorry to jump in but wanted to say hi to you both big_smile cheers

            1. lorlie6 profile image84
              lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Hey there, doll!!!

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                lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                whats new? big_smile

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                  lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  i heard you were one of these alcoholics - is that true?  cause I am lol
                  whew I needed that, now back to my serious posts......  lol

                2. lorlie6 profile image84
                  lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  One more sober day? lol

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                    lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    lol  yikes  lol

          2. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            It was nice to see you too lorlie. smile

            Hey Kim, What's up little lady? smile

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              lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              going up and away Ph wrong thread hmm:
              and you?
              this thread is hilarious lol  lol

  29. Wendi M profile image81
    Wendi Mposted 7 years ago

    Hi girls..and guys!

    1. lorlie6 profile image84
      lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Wendi! lol

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    lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago

    Okay someone says drugs or booze and we all show up what ever happened to our recovery forum HUH?  Guess we could recover here too lol lol lol

    Wend xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

    1. lorlie6 profile image84
      lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Hey lyrics, want to start another?  Or Casgil?  Wendi?  Me?

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        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        OK L you go or I will-what to do?  your call, you know i love starting threads lol

        1. lorlie6 profile image84
          lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

          You go for it gal, threads are your specialty! lol

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            lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            ok one minute

            1. lorlie6 profile image84
              lorlie6posted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Tap...tap...tap! lol

  31. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    I got it

  32. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago
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    lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago
  34. bojanglesk8 profile image61
    bojanglesk8posted 7 years ago

    It's an evil thing.

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      lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      cunning, baffling and powerful

      I hate it exists, as do many.

      Wrapped up perfectly with bojangles.

  35. nikki1 profile image60
    nikki1posted 7 years ago

    ?, just your thoughts on this disease. How do you feel about it?
    Thank you for your thoughts.

  36. Bovine Currency profile image61
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    Alcoholism sucks.  Hard.  It is a disease.

    1. nikki1 profile image60
      nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      NIcely put.

  37. Bovine Currency profile image61
    Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago

    It is easy for me to say, I have lived with it.

  38. aware profile image72
    awareposted 7 years ago

    i think alot on this topic. main reason for that  being i know the subject matter  intimately . i was in the program for over two years. they use the words higher power, so as not to  scare  some off . with confusing ideals  not pertinent to the prime objective. the disease wording , and label. for me anyway , never set well . and i still don't care for it.

    1. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      take what you like and leave the rest.

      I am not patronising you.  I have walked in and out for 7 years now but for solace I need to be there.  Just like any community there are pros and cons.

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        lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        that's the main point - take what you want and leave the rest.  That's how it works as you know.  big_smile

  39. fishtiger58 profile image82
    fishtiger58posted 7 years ago

    A life wrecking addiction.

    1. nikki1 profile image60
      nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      sad. JUst think it all starts with one drink. The chemicals in the drink, possibly the taste is good and then.. bam. I feel for the victim and the people involved. victim is the alcoholic. The cravings must be tough/stopping. Its got to be tough.

      Thanx for the awesome comments. For those who fought this disease and are talking about it. A high-5.

  40. Miss Know-It-All profile image60
    Miss Know-It-Allposted 7 years ago

    An average alcoholic drink has all 13 mineral's you need to sustain human life. I don't understand the question lol so I put down a fact lol

    1. nikki1 profile image60
      nikki1posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      sad.. and still alcoholics destoys lives and dies a horrible death. Their bodies are messed up because of it. Due to the toxians in the booze.

  41. nikki1 profile image60
    nikki1posted 7 years ago

    It wasn't a question. I am wanting your thoughts on this topic.
    miss know it all.

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    lyricsingrayposted 7 years ago

    @alcoholism post roll

 
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