There! There! There!

There! There! There!

I see the Christ, his bloodied knees; bruised; cut.

As he kneels in the street.

Snow falls upon his tortured head; blood matted hair,

And numbs the pain… just for a while.

Cool drops of salt

Whirling in a cruel

And alien atmosphere.

I see his bloodied knees as he falls

The first time… the last time.

Two crimson smears on the already bloodied stones.

A thousand crosses mark the spot,

And yet this one act is deemed:

Redemption.

I see the crimson smears;

The silence of the watchers.

He stops beside a whited car,

His battered, burning face

Pushed into the cooling side;

The reflection is not new to him.

Those broken teeth; that lacerated brow.

I have seen the Christ

In a London street.

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Doug Turner Jr. 5 years ago

I'm always slightly perplexed when I'm the first to stumble on the hub of a popular writer like yourself. Always do a double-take, unsure of how this happened.

Anyway, you took an original idea and ran with it here. Engaging the whole way through but here is my favorite bit:

"Cool drops of salt

Whirling in a cruel

And alien atmosphere"

I mean just look at how well that reads all by itself. Peace.


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saddlerider1 5 years ago

I agree with Doug, you are a popular writer indeed, a writer who captures the attention of many and leaves and indelible footprint of talent behind for us all to savor and read with delight.

This is simply a brilliant piece of work and it brought a tear to my eye. I have seen the drops of blood, I have stood beside a Christ in homeless streets and missions, their are many Christ likes walking amongst us.

I see it in their eyes when I pass and we both understand.

"I see the crimson smears;

The silence of the watchers."

Bravo my fellow poet and scribe, I applaud this piece.


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Randy Behavior 5 years ago from Near the Ocean

I'm too distracted by all the blood to read this without making a face. But through my squinched up eyes these lines stand out to me:

"Two crimson smears on the already bloodied stones.

A thousand crosses mark the spot,

And yet this one act is deemed:

Redemption."


donna bamford 5 years ago

Very powerful Ian. My mother said "Try to see the Christ in everyone." Sometimes it

is very clear. Was this an actual scene that you witnessed or is it your imagination?


donna bamford 5 years ago

Very powerful Ian. My mother said "Try to see the Christ in everyone." Sometimes it

is very clear. Was this an actual scene that you witnessed or is it your imagination?


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Doug, I appreciate your comments and am always grateful that you take the time to so intelligently respond to my scribblings. I actually see more in what I have written from that perspective than when I look at it with my own eyes. Thanks to you, most gifted writer, yourself.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you Saddle Rider for your very positive comments. I am really heartened to read them and thank you for your very eloquent words. The whole affair was a very brutal and lonely act and I also feel moved to tears at the murder of a great man and prophet in that disgusting and horrific manner.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Randy, I know you found it distressing, but I hope you liked it. Regardless of our religious (or otherwise) affiliations it's a subject that has been written about frequently, and at length, but in a very "pussy" manner, and I think the brutality and horror of it is worthy of an attempt. I hope I was up to it.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Donna, thank you for dropping in and reading my piece. I think you mother was right. No, it wasn't a scene I witnessed but, perhaps, an accumulations of many scenes that one is subject to in a large city. It is a universal scene, acted out too frequently in this world... and will always be.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Ian, forgive for being dense.

I love the way you wrote it, I love the way you put your words together.

But I cannot share the feeling - it is beyond me. I don't understand why religion is stuck on images of blood, crucifixion, suffering.

Why can't faith be about harmony, peace and beauty? If I want to see God, I want to see it in beauty.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I agree completely, Svetlana. But my take on it, and the resulting poem (?) was purely historical. I just get a little pissed off with people who look at Easter as the Easter Bunny and Chocolate season of the year.

You know that I am a pretty evasive sort of person. After all, I am a Libra and want balance in everything... or is that because I am OCD? Hmm!


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

You know,Ian,leaving bunnies and chocolates alone, I am not comfortable with Christianity. When I say religion, I more often than not refer to Christianity. Which is not right.

I have strong feelings about it, I always had. Not positive ones.

Now I am caught in between two extremes - my ex "believes" (he doesn't) and I don't and Daniel is involved. I may not be tolerant enough - I am not. I cannot see a cross without shudder - to me - it is an torture device and tool for execution (apotheosis of cruelty).

You know I am very visual - if I can see universe in an umbrella - you can imagine how unwelcome visions of death and torture are to me. I hate horror movies - I cannot get those images out of my head.

You know my position, I am entitled to it and you are entitled to yours and all those innocent rabbit-looking-for-chocolate (speaking of depravity!) people are entitled to their fun, too. Religion gives you a comfort - there is an answer, God loves you, the bill is paid (he has paid for everybody's sins) and everybody accepts that we have an original sin and we accept the price that has been paid by somebody else for our salvation (how convenient!).

I am not going to argue with that position. Why am I even writing this? Tell me, why I can't get over my dislike of Christianity?

Maybe because I was invited to Sunday's service on the 23rd. And I have to say (HOW MANY TIMES? - that is me screaming) "Sorry, I am going to pass, I am not religious".

Maybe I want to believe in Greek mythology. I loved it - those gods were human like. Maybe I need to delve into Buddhism.

the void? What to fill the void with? My answer Love, peace, harmony and BEAUTY. Not controlled depravity. BEAUTY.

If it is only a beautiful melody it is enough proof of Divinity for me. Blood?, no thank you.

Ian, you understand that my emotional "rebuttal" has nothing to do with you. The day I will be able to stop paying attention to things associated with religion, I will be freed. Officially.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I am aware that you rebuttal isn't directed at me. Why should it be? But Buddhism That is the ultimate cop out, isn't it,

No! Go for the Greek or the Roman gods (Gods?). They had a lot of fun, and really didn't hurt too many people, did they? Just changed shape and raped unsuspecting Virgins dressed up like Swans and Showers of Gold and all that business. I've never been raped by a swan, although one got hold of my arm and tried to drag me into the water once, but that's another story.


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kallini2010 5 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Well, you see the difference? You made me laugh. But all this raping and the rest of their crimes is very human like. Greek Gods are like normal people. Not saints that don't need sex. Sex is bad. Women are evil. Burn them. Alive.

And the holy symbols? Venus. She is beautiful. You look at her, you have good thoughts. I hope. You are validated for being human. Nobody thinks that being a monk is better (sainter, more divine) than being normal.

And as far as raping goes, and forgive me for the analogy, it is better to be raped by a swan and give birth to a half-god than to be raped by the whole ideology of being sinful even prior to be able to be able to commit any sins. The original sin and the woman is there to be blamed, too. You are born and you are already a sinner. Stamped.

And you know very well, that I won't worship the whole Greek Divine society and my road to Buddhism is still far away from me.

-- Excuse me, do you know how to reach Buddhism?

-- Yes, go straight until you reach horizon and then make a right turn.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Dear Ian,

This was an awesome piece of work. It is sad to see what Christ had to endure, but it is part of history. Once a year we are reminded of what he went through. Everyday our eyes watch bloody TV shows, go to bloody movies, and we are okay with that. Just once a year...a reminder of a good man, a righteous man, who only spoke love, died a horrible death...I don't think this is too much to ask. Thank you for taking the moment to bring it out in the open. It isn't about religion, the Easter bunny, or pretty Easter dresses, it is about the heart. Reminds us of death and life and a time of renewal. Springtime, and do'overs...it is a newness, a beginning...the shedding of blood was a beginning not the end concerning Christ. He still stirs the hearts and we still talk about this man 2000 years later...I wonder why? Unfortunately Christianity as we know it in many circles has made a bad name for many who truly have a heart for God. I just hope most will put all religion aside and seek God for themselves..don’t look at man, they will let you down every time.

Sunnie


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AngRose 5 years ago

Beautiful thought provoking piece of writing Ian as usual.

Just my humble opinion here, so please take it as you will...The blood of Jesus, and the cross, are the ultimate symbols of beauty to born again believers of Christ. Not because of what He endured for all, that makes us weep copiously, the same as the suffering of anyone would make most weep. But because of the depth of the love He felt for us to go through this suffering, so that we might have life. Sometimes sacrifice is needed so that life may exist. After all, the seed has to die before the plant can be born correct? Christ accepted that He had to die in order for us to live, and He was willing to do it. He does not see it as ugly, or brutal, He sees it as love, pure and simple love for His creations. We choose whether or not we accept it.

Christians are also commanded by God to share the knowledge of this gift with others. We don't do it to belittle, or to judge, or to condemn anothers beliefs. I don't at least, and I know of others who don't either. We do it because we must. Because we are compelled by our love for our God and our love for fellow humans. We see it as the ultimate gift, given by our God to us, and we wish to share. It is not a sinister desire to point out the flaws in another, or to "cram" something down their throat. If I possessed the cure for cancer I would run around and hand it to everybody I knew who had cancer, who might get cancer, who knew somebody who had cancer, who knew somebody who might get cancer...you get my point. It is the same with sharing our belief in salvation by Grace through faith in Jesus Christ. We must share this wonderful news with others, or die a little inside. It is not an insult when someone shares with you. It is their way of trying to love you. You don't have to accept, just as they don't have to accept your beliefs. They just wish to show you the love they feel inside...to help ease pain in others.

Our God is a God of infinite, sacrificial, un-conditional love, and He made a way to share that with others. It wasn't brutality, Christ had a choice, He chose to die so we might live.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I agree with your analogy concerning the cure for cancer. That is simplistic, and because it is, I like it. I don't like dogma; it blurs the edges and makes truth hard to discover. However, what would you do if you knew that someone had a cure for cancer also, but that that cancer worked in a different way; maybe because the cancer being treated responded to different medications or was seated in another part of the body? Both cancers being life threatening.

Would you prevent that cure being offered to another sufferer, because you thought your cure was the better one? And what if the end result were the same... life, rather than a painful death.

Then what would you do if you suddenly heard, both you and the other physician with the opposing treatment, that another cure had come on the market. Would you close ranks with your first adversary, and exclude this third bearer of a cure. Would you change sides? Would you all fight against each other, and forget that your true enemy was the cancer? Or would you join ranks, and although thinking that the other two were not as good as yours, at least they were fighting the same enemy, and “fight the good fight” together.

Remember, Angie, you only think that Christianity is the one true path. There is no proof. This is what is known as Faith.

Hmm!

Ian.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I agree with you wholeheartedly, Sunnie. I live in a country which may have a state religion, but it certainly isn’t a religious country. We have the Church as part of our government and have Bishops sitting in the House of Lords, but the Churches are empty most of the year, except for a few old ladies, and frequently the God Squad who really make me so worried. They are convinced that they know better than everybody and are always reading tracts from the Bible, but not one of them seem to remember that religions is based on Faith and a belief, and not on Facts.

In America, I have heard, and have become aware since being on HP, there are more than the regulation number of Christian Wackos, and you know that you are dear to me, not only for other things, but because you are not a Wacko.

You hit the nail firmly on the head when you said, “I just hope most will put all religion aside and seek God for themselves... don’t look at man, they will let you down every time” You don’t need to extend that even a little because you have said an absolute truth. Religion sometimes gets between man and God. I have friends who are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists and one or two other bits and pieces that labels haven’t been made for yet. I love them or like them, not because of what they believe, but for what they do. And I am only a man… I have a feeling that God would feel the very same. Of course I believe in God, but I have my doubts on and off; but, Sunnie, I am sure God has doubts about me just as often.

If he made us all, then why should he not like us just because we were not reacting or believing in a particular manner? We aren’t omniscient… we are human. I leave the God stuff to God. I try to do the Ian stuff as best I can.

Integrity will do for starters… whether I am an Atheist a Christian, a Hindu, a Jew, a Muslim, a Parsi, or a Zoroastrian.

Here endeth the First Lesson.

The collection plate will be handed round during the singing of Hymn Number 63: ‘Morning Has Broken’

If the plate is not finished being filled by the end of the Hymn, we will turn to the Hymn Book and sing, Hymn Number 143: 'Now Thank We All Our God'.


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AngRose 5 years ago

I said if I had the cure for cancer, I would run and offer it, free of charge, to everyone who would take it from me. I imagine, there would be those who would not believe me, and would choose to not accept it. They do not know me, they do not know if I tell the truth. They only have my "faith" in that of which I speak. Of course, some of those could be won over, if I had the appropriate proof of my claims, and the time to be allowed to present them. But the fact remains, some would not accept my gift. And I would sadly turn away, taking my cure, their gift of life, with me and offer it to another who would choose to accept it.

My offer of sharing what I believe to be true regarding eternal life is the same. It is what I believe. I do not force you to accept it. I believe it is, as the Bible states, "The way, the truth, the life." Whether or not you believe it is your choice. It's always remained your choice. I will not bash you over the head with it, I will not try to bully you into believing it. I will allow you, with all dignity, to believe that which you believe. I will not make fun of you for it, I will not judge you for it. Because I am not God, I am human. I do not have all the answers. I freely accept this. I simply ask the dignity and respect to be allowed to have my own beliefs as well. I don't feel the need to try to "prove" them to anyone. They are not, as you pointed out, based all in fact or provable truths. They are based on faith. And it is impossible to "force" ones own faith upon someone else.

I rarely discuss my religious beliefs in "public" so to speak, I'd rather avoid the argument that usually ensues. Just at times I venture a tiny bit out, and share what I believe. For several reasons. I just felt safe with you, who I feel will not judge me, to share a tiny portion of what I think on the subject.

Thank you for allowing me to jump on my soapbox on your hub my friend.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Ian you are hysterical..thank you for your words and all the truth that comes from them..hope you having a good day or night I believe now.

Sunnie


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

My Dear Angie, I would never judge you. If I were to do so it would only prove to you and to anybody else watching or listening that I was an arrogant fool. I have my own beliefs; I do not ever try to tell anybody what he or she should believe.

I can't remember Jesus Christ ever saying to anybody, "This is the way it is, Mate, and if you don't believe it, I'm going to give you a kicking".

What he said was, "Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel, a lo, I am with ye always".

Beliefs and faiths are nice things to have, and I feel sorry for those who wish to destroy and not to build.

Remember, Atheists have no more proof that God doesn't exist than the religious person has the proof that He does, but they bitterly try to bully people into believing that they are right. Their lives and beliefs are frequently dry, sad and unlovely.

I know where I would want to be.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

All this about a poem, Sunnie. I bet King Solomon didn't have as many comments when he poeted the 'Song of Songs' on HubPages.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

I love you comment, Svetlana. You could construct a very clever hub based simply on your comment here. I could imagine a very tongue in cheek and ingenuous hub, perhaps even advocating a return to the Greco Roman Pantheon... written in the style of Mark Ewbie (Look him up on HP; he is a very capable and clever writer).

This really made me chuckle:

“-- Excuse me, do you know how to reach Buddhism?

-- Yes, go straight until you reach horizon and then make a right turn.”


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AngRose 5 years ago

As usual, I will just agree to disagree with someone else regarding religion. It's easier.


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Strange, Angie. I can't remember coming out on any side. You have no idea of what my religious affiliations are, I didn't think I stated any.


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AngRose 5 years ago

Ian,

I'm sorry, that wasn't what I meant. I only meant to say I wasn't going to argue with anyone regarding religion. You do express your belief that Jesus didn't say "This is the way it is, Mate, and if you don't believe it, I'm going to give you a kicking". This is sort of what I was referring to that I wasn't going to "argue" with anyone about. Because, unfortunately, I do believe it's just that narrow a way to get to Heaven. But I was merely trying to say I wasn't going to argue it on your Hub. This hub is about your lovely poem, and I do not wish to turn it into an argument, mine, about what someone believes in or does not believe in. I hope that makes sense.


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Ian,

Your poem did stir the hearts of many...I know when God whispers in my most private prayers there is no one around to say it did not happen..it is only me who can discern that..so I am not able in good concious to try to convince anyone..I leave that up to the Almighty.

God is big enough to make his presence known for sure..He may shake the rafters to get ones attention or in the gentle breese..it is his call.

Hugs,

Sunnie


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Beautifully put, Sunnie. Poems, as you know, can be received in so many ways; sometimes I interpret something entirely differently from the other readers, and also even differently from the writer's ideas. This one, I wrote many years ago, but it has always upset me. I think if it didn't affect me like that, I wouldn't have posted it... published it.

It has affected Christians and others in really differing way.

I don't really like analysing my own stuff, but there you go.

My concept of God is much the same as yours, Sunnie, but I don't think of Him as a God of dread and woe and all that business. I also think of Him as an entity with a sense of humour, as well as compassion.

Big hug,

Ian


Sunnie Day 5 years ago

Good Morning Ian,

Beautifully said! Have a great day!

Sunnie


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vocalcoach 5 years ago from Nashville Tn.

A truly stunning piece of work! The images add so much reality. If we but look at others with our heart and not just the eyes, we will see Christ in various places. We never know. I love this Twilight Lawns. What a gift you have and thank you deeply for sharing this. I'm a better person for knowing you. vocalcoach


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

What an amazing comment, VocalCoach. I am flattered, pleased and awed my your words. Thank you, I can actually feel my face colouring. You are very kind.

Ian


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tonymac04 5 years ago from South Africa

Ian, this is brilliant and a timely reminder of the reality of suffering and death. The sentimentalisation of the Good Friday story is quite literally sickening with all those chocolate Easter Eggs and bunnies. And those things so neatly divert our attention away from the things that the powers that be would rather we didn't look at too closely.

Sociologist Peter Berger, who has written a lot about religion, writes about the two purposes of religion, that it serves either as a source of social cohesion or as a radical revolutionary attack on a society.

Since the Constatinian compromise Christianity has tended to act as the former, although its roots are in the latter. We often forget I think just how revolutionary Christianity was in its early incarnation. It posed a real threat to the social arrangements of the day, and so Jesus was killed, brutally and very publicly. Now we have, as you point out above, bishops sitting in the House of Lords. Christianity has opted for the cohesion of society model. A priest friend of mine many years ago put it in a sermon: "The opium of the masses has become the weak tea of the Mothers' Union meeting."

We had a "Good Friday" event here in South Africa last week when an unarmed man leading a protest against the unacceptable living conditions in his community was beaten to death by six armed policemen apparently while he was trying to negotiate with them. The beating took place in full view of TV cameras and the whole incident was broadcast on the evening news. The first response of the government was to criticse the SABC for showing the incident! O Haupt voll Blut und Wunden!

Sorry about the rant - blame it on the power of your words!

Love and peace

Tony


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK

I am really grateful to tonymac04 for sending me here to read this... :-)


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Tony, I was knocked sideways by your articulate and otherwise wonderful comment. I cannot respond as articulately as you, so I won't even attempt it. You have said everything I believe and more.

I have never heard the term, "Constatinian compromise", but of course that was what it was all about at the Council of Nicea.

You might have a few “Born Agains but I don’t Know What You Are Talking About” baying for your blood after your wonderful words, but…

Thank you for coming to read. I feel just a little bit inadequate right now.

Ian


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

De Greek, your fame goes before you. I heard of you when I first came to HP, and for some reason I have not read any of your hubs. I have just started... and, My Goodness, I regret the time wasted NOT reading.

Thank you for your visit.


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bellawritter23 5 years ago from California

I guess the only task we are given is to walk like jesus did. Some astray from our great mission to do as he wants us to do. Great write here twin.

smiles :)

bella


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Twilight Lawns 5 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Thank you so much for your visit and your comments, my friend. I appreciate your kind remarks.

Ian


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Nikkij504gurl 3 years ago from Louisiana

Wow, that was powerful, and you have a hell of a lot of comments on here. My fave lines "I have seen the Christ in a London street." and "A thousand crosses mark the spot, And yet this one act is deemed: Redemption."


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Twilight Lawns 3 years ago from Norbury-sur-Mer, Surrey, England. U.K. Author

Nikkij, thank you so much for those kind words, and thank you for the visit.

You have ever been my support, and I am more than grateful.


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Nikkij504gurl 3 years ago from Louisiana

You're very welcome!

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