Aliens, Pineal Glands, and DMT
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What the Hell is a Pineal Gland?
The pineal gland is a small endocrine gland located in the vertebrate brain, at the top of the spinal column, deep inside the familiar squirmy grey squiggly stuff that we usually think of when we think of brains.
It's very, very small. And very, very old.
These days, most people don't spend a lot of time worrying about their pineal glands. In fact, I'd wager that maybe 9 out of 10 people don't even know they have a pineal gland, much less know what it does or why they should care about it.
So it might surprise you to learn that Rene Descartes, the famous 17th century philosopher who is credited with ushering in the Age of Enlightenment with the phrase "I think, therefore I am," believed that the tiny, hidden pineal gland was nothing less than 'the seat of the soul'.
Descartes believed that the pineal gland was the part of the brain where physical reality meets mental reality; the anatomical nexus of mind and body. Other philosophers have attributed other metaphysical properties to the pineal gland, many claiming that it is in fact the physiological 'third eye'; the brain structure that makes insight and intuition possible.
All of these guys are probably wrong, but we don't really know.
The truth is, no one is really sure just exactly what the pineal gland is for or why human beings have one. We do know that the pineal gland is active and that it does seem to serve some specific endocrine functions. For example, it produces melatonin (itself a bit of a mystery substance) which is known for certain to inhibit sexual development in children. Melatonin production drops at puberty, thus allowing sexual development, and stays low throughout the rest of adulthood.
Scientists also know that the pineal gland also interacts in some not-yet-fully-understood ways with both serotonin (which is essential to normal mood and feelings of well-being) and with certain hallucinogens and antidepressants, especially the new group of seratonin re-uptake inhibitors (which are themselves not fully understood but are widely prescribed anyway since they seem to work, at least for awhile).
Many scientists believe that the pineal gland in human beings is a vestigial remnant of a much larger organ that plays a more important part in other species but not in humans. A vestigial remnant is something that is still part of your body but no longer serves any purpose because evolution has rendered it unnecessary--like a little toe, for instance, or an appendix.
Other scientists believe the pineal gland plays a crucial role in subtle endocrine processes that we simply don't yet fully understand. The human endocrine system is an incredibly delicate complicated thing, and if you don't believe me, try reading even one medical paper about it and then come back and tell me what any of it means.
In other mammals, the pineal gland seems to play an important role in sexual development (as it does in humans), seasonal breeding, metabolism, and hibernation.
In certain lower vertebrates like lamprey eels, the pineal gland actually does seem to mediate photosensitivity in low-light conditions; that is, the pineal gland literally is a kind of 'third eye' that allows some animals to 'see' in the dark or possibly even to 'see' in light ranges that eyes cannot.
That's pretty fascinating.
People are not eels, but even so, it's easy to see how folks could get caught up in speculation about what might be going on with this odd little organ.
It's all pretty weird, and if you read a lot of New Age material you already know that claims of what the pineal gland is up to in human beings and what you ought to be doing about it run the gamut from mildly interesting to completely insane.
Any of it could be true, or not. Most if it, probably not. But even what we know for sure is fascinating, tantalizing stuff.
Oh yeah, and there's a connection to alien abductions and aliens and near death experiences.
I sh*t you not.
Stay with me. This gets pretty good.
DMT, OBEs, UFOs, and NDEs
That's a mouthful of initials, I know.
Let's start with DMT.
DMT is one of the most powerful hallucinogens known to man. DMT occurs naturally in certain plants (many of them native to the Amazon, where local tribes have for centuries made a hallucinogenic plant drink to access it), but weirdly, the other place DMT occurs naturally is in small amounts is the human body.
DMT is produced by the pineal gland and is present at all times inside normal human beings.
No one is quite sure why.
The thing about DMT when used as an hallucinogen is that even though it literally knocks the person who takes it into another world, it only does so for about five minutes, tops.
The reasons for this are multiple and somewhat complicated, like DMT itself:
The main reason DMT causes such as short high is that it is very rapidly absorbed by the human body and broken down into increments too small to cause altered states. In order to trigger hallucinations, DMT has to be taken in large enough doses and in such a way that it is sure to reach the brain before the body metabolizes it. This is no simple thing. Even then, the user gets only that five minute window, sometimes less.
The other reason DMT is such a short and elusive high is that several other substances have to be present in the body in order for its effects to be triggered at all.
That said, you still might well ask yourself why a powerful hallucinogen is being manufactured deep inside the oldest part of the human brain.
Several people have asked that question, and are still asking.
The person talking about DMT the most often and the most loudly is probably Terrance McKenna, the hippy dippy drug guy who makes Timothy Leary look about as lively as Al Gore. This is unfortunate, since McKenna's manner and writing style (to say he is a character is an obscene understatement), make him a frequent target of parody and practically insure that no one outside a small slice of an ever-aging counterculture will take him seriously.
I think Terrance McKenna is really interesting and have personally read his book about DMT and liked it. I also think he sounds like a lunatic. But then often, lunatics make really interesting writers. Look at Hunter S. Thompson. Jack Kerouac.
In recent years other researchers have begun to ask these same kinds of questions about DMT. Rick Strassman, a psychopharmacologist who completed some of the earliest scientific research on melatonin (that other substance produced by the pineal gland) was one of the first researchers commissioned by the U.S. government to study psychedelic drugs and their effects. Strassman completed a long-running study on the effects of DMT in which he discovered that the altered states produced by the DMT strongly resemble Near Death Experiences (NDEs), and usually at least include out of body experiences (OBEs).
But perhaps most surprisingly, many of Strassman's subjects experienced all the major elements of a UFO abduction experience under the influence of DMT in controlled conditions.
This is especially strange, since Strassman was not looking for that connection at all initially, but rather was interested in discovering whether or not DMT might play a role in the transition from life to death and (at the other end of the spectrum) in the transmission of consciousness in utero at about 49 days (when DMT is first detected in a human embryo).
Strassman's 'thing' is the study of human consciousness and how and why it exists.
He wasn't looking for aliens. They just showed up.
Terrance McKenna calls the aliens that showed up under his own DMT experiences 'self-transforming machine elves', and talks at length about the role UFO crafts and aliens play in the visions of Amazon shamans that use the drink DMTto trigger their inward shamanic journeys. McKenna has spent quite a bit of time with those shamans and drinking that drink, and while you may find his methods and his manner a bid weird, it's fascinating stuff if you have the patience to wade through it.
There's no intuitive reason to think that shamans from Amazonian tribes with little contact with the modern world should have the same experience of UFOs and aliens as people in the developed world who believe themselves to have been abducted or visited, and yet, they do.
How can this be?
The connecting link seems to be DMT and the mysterious little pineal gland.
Proof that Life Really Is a Dream, Shboom, Shboom?
One of the most fascinating studies and subsequent speculations about the role of the pineal gland and DMT was put forth by neuroscientist J.V. Wallach in a paper sexily titled "Endogenous hallucinogens as ligands of the trace amine receptors: a possible role in sensory perception," which was published in the journal Medical Hypotheses in 2008.
Wallach's research on the effect of DMT on other endocrine compounds in the human body seemed to suggest that "...DMT and other endogenous hallucinogens mediate their neurological abilities by acting as neurotransmitters at a sub class of the trace amine receptors; a group of receptors found in the CNS where DMT and other hallucinogens have been shown to have activity."
Wallach proposes that in this way waking consciousness can be thought of as a controlled psychedelic experience. When the control of these normal systems of perception becomes loosened and their behavior no longer correlates with the external world, then altered states arise.
Translated, what this suggests is that consciousness, the waking state we take as a 'given' and that feeds us information about the physical world, is itself a kind of hallucination that is fed to us in a controlled way by the pineal gland. Changing the dosage and timing results in a completely different experience (the aliens, the tunnel of light), raising the question of, which experience is real?
Are either of these perceived realities really real? Are neither of them real? Is there more than one dimension of reality and if so, can we, like lamprey eels, perceive another dimension when the chemical lens is made available to us?
I don't have any easy answers, and I do have a distaste for blind alleys when it comes to UFO stuff, since that's about all anything ever turns out to be--yet another blind alley. But I have to admit this line of research looks like it could come together in a very interesting way indeed, and that it definitely pushes us to the edge of some kind of envelope in terms of material reality versus psychological reality and arguments about consciousness and aliens.
With DMT we are pushed into the realm of something like chemical reality, and since we are learning at the same time that 'normal reality' is itself a chemical effect involving DMT, we really are at a point where we need a new, larger framework to hold all these ideas.
In the 1993 book Listening to Prozac, psychiatrist Peter Kramer raises many of these same questions in regard to the first of the new class of serotonin reuptake inhibitors approved for the treatment of depression. Significantly, serotonin and antidepressants are also impacted in ways not yet understood by the compound DMT.
Wouldn't it be weird if human beings were actually the spaceships, the pineal gland was the cockpit, and the aliens were the drivers?
Or may I've just seen Men In Black one too many times.
At any rate, for those of us who are still convinced the truth is out there, this is one blind alley that might actually lead somewhere.
The question is, are we ready to go there?
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Hummmm, very interesting and informative indeed...
I'll read this again when my brain has cooled down! It's fascinating stuff.
Maybe it just connects us to that universal consciousness, and in that way we can see/ interact with the aliens.
Great stuff. the gland is obviously our connection to those that put us here. would like to talk more, but the mother ship is waiting for me. :)
Hi teresa--Yeah, it's enough to make your head spin, huh? I think it's cool though. I'm going to read more on it and see where it goes.
Nancy, thanks for stopping by.
Nolimits Nana--Possibly, that's one way of looking at it. I always felt that the standard gray alien looked way too human to be from another planet. I think whatever is happening--and I do think something is going on there--is from right here on earth.
thinking out loud--thanks for stopping by. Have a nice trip back! :)
Fascinating! If you live in Roswell does your pineal gland work more or better? Certainly going to look into this. Thanks!
I was just researching DMT (well, I started out with Ken Kesey, thence Project MK-Ultra and all the drugs he took; AMT and DMT were unfamiliar to me, so. . .). AMT was first developed (in Russia) as an antidepressant; it's a synthetic form of DMT. Wonder where we could get some? or a LOT?!
Hu Gypsy Willow--Don't know about Roswell's effect on the pineal gland, lol! I do love all this consciousness stuff though. Thanks for stopping by. :)
Teresa--Really? Wow, I'd be fascinated to hear what you discovered and what you think about it all. Don't know how up for psychedelics I am--my life has been plenty weird on its own, hence my interest in the topic.
I've thought of writing about it at length, and maybe now I will. I think it will keep my mind off politics and I can always publish it as an e-book. I think there's no real market for that kind of book right now, but on the internet it doesn't matter how weird your topic is--somebody will be looking for it, you just have to find them (or they have to find you, or whatever).
I actually think this physiological research could be a way in to some anomalous experiences that lots of people have that are readily dismissed as being impossible to quantify or research, but perhaps that is not so. There could be chemical changes and reactions that could be studied that are perhaps specific to DMT and its actions within the human body.
What has always haunted me was the vivid quality of some of my 'hallucinations' and the fact that there seems to be no pathology underlying them except my depression issues. They didn't just feel real, they felt 'hyperreal', realer than real. They are consistent with the experiences of others, and I personally know people whom I consider to be quite sane who have also had very vivid experiences of UFOs, aliens, or who have had NDEs.
So I guess I'm personally invested even though by now I'm quite jaded. I've explored every blind alley out there and usually the discussions of these kinds of topics discourage me. The quality isn't there, the skepticism and willingness to ask really hard questions and pursue explanations without becoming ungrounded is missing. It's all total skepticism or total irrationality, and I've had the gut feeling something else is there for a long time, just no way to prove or disprove it.
Thanks for coming back! :)
Okay, this is way cool. I'm going to have to read it a couple of times, so I'm bookmarking it. Thanks Pam.
The theory of similar hallucinogenics being the common source for the well-documented accounts of supposed alien encounters across the centuries is very attractive. It would explain a lot of the features that tend to crop up in different cultures, in different times. Cool!
Oh, this was way cool, enjoyed the tour on the pineal gland and its outwordly implications...
This paragraph attracted my attention "Wouldn't it be weird if human beings were actually the spaceships, the pineal gland was the cockpit, and the aliens were the drivers?"
I say, what if life is just a hologram assisted by the chemicals in our body so it feels more "real", especially with the help of the pineal gland and such? :)
The more we know, the more we know we don't know, or need to learn, and realize what we thought we knew was false all along. This is life.
Welcome to the Matrix.
I'm still waiting for that book Pam. This could be it. And I think you'd find a far greater audience than you currently imagine, since half the aliens would want to read it too, not to speak of the elves. Your best hub yet (and that's saying something).
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh ! - bookmarked, will read again. I'm a bit spooked but also very intrigued.
CJStone thought I would like this, and they were right! Actually, I'm quite familiar with this part of the brain, for the very reasons you mention...alein abductions and the like.
On some planets, you see, this part of the brain is a delicacy...err...delicate issue.
Excellent Hub. =)
Well, Rene Descartes walked into his favorite bar and the bartender asks him, "The usual, sir?"
Descartes replies "I think not" and suddenly disappears.
OK, back to reality, as much as my pineal gland will allow me process. We all have weird dreams and delusions, such as mine that I am really somehow more special than many of the people I meet. Of course, I am just the same, but my experiences allow me to believe that somehow I am, perhaps smarter, or a better singer, than are others. One friend from my youth could not sing a anything more than a single note and yet he thought he was a great singer. We played tape recordings of him and he insisted it was someone else's voice. It wasn't, but he remained stubborn. Did he have a great disillusion?
Thanks Frieda and Teresa!
Violet--I know sometimes my life certainly feels like a hologram!
Tom--Amen, amen!
CWB--Actually the Matrix is a really good analogy. The first time I saw that movie I was with my kids (all of them grown up). They hated it because they thought it was so unrealistic--I loved it because I thought it was about the way the world actually is! Weird.
CJ--Thanks for plowing through this. One day I might actually finish something. Weirder things have happened.
Iphigena--Thanks!
Ixxy--Remind me to keep my pineal gland on the opposite side of the room from yours. Other than that, great to see you!
Ivan--Hiya! As a former philosophy student, I'm familiar with that excellent joke. I think many alien abduction stories and ufo sightings are instances of people wanting to feel special, but many aren't. I'm under no delusion that I'm special in any way, but I do have questions about some experiences in my life and I know for sure I'm not unusual in that regard. I probably take this kind of thing more seriously than most people because of that. Thanks for your comment.
Great stuff. It truly is a wonder, though please let The good doctor 'Tim Leary' Alone, as one grand and great professor considering this very subject. A pioneer of knowing too much, found out how little he knew, Admitting it and with a smile. The man was a genius. A loving doctor who's works can and should be studied intensely for all time. Also his good friend Robert Anton Wilson. As they all say "love is the law!"
There was a wierd movie about this i think it was call 'for your eyes' About living on through the pineal gland. Crazy cool but creepy.
Hello, the DMT is broken down in the body too quickly. So you have to get the doses to the brain quickly. If the aliens mess up reloading our gland, we remember part of it but remember it incorrectly. It is not anal probes, it is a DMT suppository.
Sorry, I could not resist. This brings so many things to mind. Quite possibly, the gland regulates just the right amount of DMT so that we perceive “this” (the common) perception of reality. There are many versions of reality. Consider them other dimensions. We are tuned to this one. Like a tv tuner. There are other colors, we just are not tuned to them. All in vibrations that we cannot pick up on a regular basis, but are there.
"Wouldn't it be weird if human beings were actually the spaceships, the pineal gland was the cockpit, and the aliens were the drivers?"
I think David Icke would agree with you on this, at least in part, because he calls our bodies "spacesuits", he has taken ayahuasca and was given a lot of information by a voice that spoke to him whilst on it, and he maintains that Reptilian aliens do indeed control humans from another dimension!
Yes, DMT is widely available in plant form in most parts of the world including Europe, North and South America, Africa, Asia and Australia. The common Phalaris grasses that grow worldwide contain it and so do many Acacia trees. Shamanic tribal peoples in South America discovered how to activate DMT and other tryptamines by combining with herbs that contain monoamine inhibitors. Passionflower is one of these as is Syrian Rue. Ayahuasca is a brew containing both the Yagé vine and Psychotria viridis - a mixture of a DMT and tryptamine-containing herb with one that contains monoamine inhibitors.
Hi julianz23--My apologies for any disrespect I put out there towards Dr. Leary. No offense intended. Thanks for stopping by.
Paper Moon--Well, you could probably sell DMT suppositories. If you can make them, someone will buy them.
Hi Steve--It's interesting to me that the part of the brain in which the pineal gland is located is sometimes called 'the reptilian brain' because it is the oldest part in terms of evolution. John Mack wrote a lot about abductees and 'dual identity'. I don't know, it's all pretty interesting, but who knows. I do tend to think that the 'other world' is right here though. Grays look too much like people for it to be a coincidence. Thanks for coming by!
Fascinating stuff, Whenever I try to contempplate the universe, god, us, aliens or such stuff I usually have to give up. It makes my head hurt as there are so many possibilities.
My kundalini got activated once on acid back in the early 70s I think and I felt it like a jolt of energy going right up through me and then everything changed dramatically and I was convinced my third eye had opened but I was not glad about this, and was actually very relieved to come down many hours later. It was like seeing many multiples of everything. I didn't feel at all human anymore. Difficult to describe but there are Hindu deities with multiple arms and heads I am sure you've seen, and it was like that but with everything. Another time I had what I call my most transcendental psychedelic experience in which I this world became geometric patterns and fractals and then I was in a state of complete knowingness of anything I thought of. I can remember being shown past lives and a voice was speaking to me, which I would call God or some higher part of me that said I had come home but that I had to choose if I was going to stay there or return to my past state. I chose the latter and immediately lost nearly all memory of what I had just experienced and the abilities I had in that state and was back on a cliff in West Wales. Only one other person from the group of friends I was with could understand what I was trying to explain had happened and he had had a similar experience and collapsed in a cave. I saw him when he was like this and he had a gold glow all around his head. It's a long story and maybe I'll do a hub on it sometime. As CJ knows I was never in control of what happened to me if I took acid and also had some terrible experiences and became very scared of the stuff. For some reason I was always OK on mushrooms though and I have taken them hundreds of times.
ethel smith--I know what you mean! Thanks for stopping by. :)
Steve--We have some pretty weird experiences in common. I also had a spontaneous kundalini experience in my late 30s and spent the next decade researching all this stuff and trying to understand what happened to me.
It was VERY destabilizing, but the end of it was just as you describe with your transcendental state--as soon as I 'snapped back' to 'normal' reality I began to lose the quality of the other reality. I still remember what happened but I can't recall it experientially if that makes any sense. The quality of the experience can't be translated and I can't recapture the feeling either, but I know what it contained.
Light that was infused with love and complete knowledge was integral to that experience, as was being outside of linear time. It was a timeless place, although from it you could understand time and see it as a very limited modality, a small part of something much more vast. For years after this experience I was able to see light coming off of certain people, which is weird, and another weird side effect was I used to 'fry' small electronics. Actually I still do sometimes, and I also get visual information on people, like a little movie playing behind my eyes. It just happens, I don't like 'try' to read people or anything.
I don't own a hair dryer or anything else you plug in, and I go through five or six coffee pots a year. My partner Bill at first thought this was some wacko tidbit I was just imagining about myself, but now, after five years, he's seen it in action and so have my kids. I've read of it in other people with alien experiences and also in post-kundalini stuff.
Everything I read said that spontaneous kundalini activation is almost always very destabilizing, and that it's fairly rare. I have ideas about it, but I start writing them and I just sound like a nut job. I've been thinking the way to go at it would be as a narrative--make a good story out of it. That might make it a bit more interesting and palatable to read.
The thing is, if there's body chemistry that accompanies these experiences--and apparently there is--then they are no longer just stories that can be mocked, they have a physical component that could be studied. I'd like to see more of that happen.
I could swear that I put in about the toads! Must be losing my mind. I believe that DMT is the chemical in the “psychedelic toad” of the Sanoran desert in the southwestern US and parts of Mexico. They say the spit (venom) of the toad is a smoke-able hallucinogen.
Oh, sorry. I misread the title. I'll come back tomorrow when I'm sober enough to read this.
Hi Paper Moom--I've heard of those toads--also a little frog from the Amazon that people lick for a hallucinogen in the frog's skin. Maybe it's the same animal and I'M the one who is confused!
The toads are a separate amphibian. Bufotenine is the substance they contain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufotenin and see: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bufotenin/bufoteni
The world is full of sources of hallucinogenic drugs. Most of the mainly harmless ones like psilocybin and mescaline are illegal and all the very dangerous ones like atropine are legal!
Yes, in a state of "enlightenment" you are outside time but can access anything instantly so you are only in the now! The amazing thing is that everything is in that now!
http://www.erowid.org/animals/toads/toads_writings
A guy in Kansas City got busted for having a pet psychedelic toad.
saw this and remembered reading this hub a few days back. looks interesting. its some documentary about DMT entitled "The Spirit Molecule". supposed to be coming out sometime soon.
Your commentary about what is real or immaginary reminds me about a chemistry teacher I had in high school.He proceeded to knock on a tabletop and said this tabletop appears to be solid but in reality it is filled with vast amounts of empty space.In fact it is really only energy.The impression he left with you was that the tabletop was not real,and only a perception of our senses,which is logical in it's own way,if you think of our bodies as a kind of machine that was designed to see with our eyes only a small spectrum of frequencies known as lightwaves and not even the whole spectrum of light such as infrared which we can't see but can be detected by using electronic devices to do so.
Even Ghost hunters use devices such as this to detect electromagnetic anomolies in a certain areas where Ghosts have been seen by some sensitive individuals.I used to work with someone who claimed to not only see but even communicated mentally with them.Spooky huh !
Then I can remember times when I swear I could tell when someone was about to call me ,and the phone rang at just the time I was thinking of them.I think it's more common than we realize or are willing to admit.Probably because there has been a cultural fear of the unknown.
There was some information I remember seeing online claiming that ,it was discovered that we can consciously see back and forward in time using the pineal gland or third eye as you say.It would also explain the connection with others thinking of the same thing almost like your tuned in to the same frequency or on a conference call or what used to be called a party line
I was struck by the thought that maybe the tree of knowledge is just that ,a tree that has a chemical substance in it's bark or leaves that when prepared or ingested can cause you to see and experiance things you wouldn't be able to otherwise.But then I never had any such experiances that I'm aware of.Intution is about all I've had experience with.
Reverend Mary Hardy,Phd from michigan is someone you might be interested in checking out.She has some interesting material on her website about the earth planetary energy grid.Idon't know if you've heard of that or not.I has something to do with what we call the Holgraphic universe.Platonic solids.
Ixxy's comment about the pineal gland being a delicacy on some planets may just be the truth from some of the information I've seen here online concerning Alien's that may be living here on Earth underground.Under the Denver Airport for one.But they may be in many other underground bases around the world from what I hear.Apparently they prefer to consume the flesh of young children that work as slave laborers and are worked to the point of death and immeadeately consumed because they don't have much toxins in their bodies as adults do.I'm not kiding .I read this online.It makes you wonder about how many children are being abducted around the world and how may have never been found.
Could it be that our present bodies were developed by a group of reptilian beings who had the technology to create a human body here on earth for their own purposes,and that we as spiritual beings have willingly entered these human bodies for whatever reason and they know this but only care about their own selfish reasons such as food and a controlled living robot of sorts to serve them in more ways than one. Food and workers.Seeing as we can procreate and actual mechanical robots cannot .It's all very convienent isn't it.Remember in the bible it says to beware of that "serpent" of old.I find it interesting that the medical symbol has several serpents intertwined.and some military patches have a dragon or serpent clearly displayed.Then there is the serpent in the garden of Eden.
Concerning making electronics go out,I can't say that has happened to me or around me ,however I seem to have had experiances with lights suddenly buring out or popping above me sometimes.It may just be my imagination or a natural everyday normal thing,I don't really know.
I have read a book titled "Stalking the wild pendulem" about all of physical reality having a form of consciousness such as pressure light,sound,in varying degrees.Rock dosen't feel pain ,but does sense pressure.Plants can sense emotion as can water,and of course their are microbes.I don't recall what if anything it said about them though.Animals would be just below humans.Animals being the same as our physical bodies.So ,I assume The part of us that never dies is the human part.Some say that we all have a kind of intelligence in our hearts as well as our brains of which there are many parts of course and as you already know the nervious system connects all parts of the body.
I've heard that some entities accually feed on the energy of fear and they tend to try to put thoughts in our minds for the purpose of causing us to create the fear that they need to feed off of.I think maybe that's one of the reasons Jesus admonished us to "love your neighbor as yourself".
Thanks Steve for that clarification--It truly is amazing how irrational our drug laws are. I agree as well that we are all living right in it--it's all right here. We just can't seem 99% of it.
Artful Dodger--Thank you for the link. I saw that book and was thinking of ordering it. It lookls good.
Paper Moon--I saw a box turtle in the woods a week agao. I didn't lick it though.
someonewhoknows--I don't know if the reptilian scenario you describe is true or not, but it sounds plausible, and it also sounds like it would make a kick ass sci fi novel. It's weird, I was thinking along the lines of what you described--how the human brain is built on top of the 'reptilian brain' and what does that mean? How much of that can we access and are we certain that came about naturally? Even if these are ridiculous questions from a scientific angle, they're great questions for speculation and storytelling. But more than that, there's some plausibility there. Where did the dinosaurs go? What if a comet didn't kill them? What if they were intelligent and kept evolving? What if they 'disappeared' into another dimension right here on earth? I love this kind of stuff.
I think in a lot of ways we still have a 17th century mindset. Physical reality is easy to deconstruct, but we continue to take it and the most solid thing we have even though we know it isn't. As you say, high school chemistry teaches this. Interesting stuff, thank you for your comments and all the info. I'll check out the site you mention for sure.
A very interesting subject, deep & fascinating! I will look into Terrance McKenna and Rick Strassman writings. This is a topic I would like to know more about. Well done!
Too bad. Could have been a useful experiment. Perhaps it would have turned into a prince. Come tho think of it, kissing psychedelic frog may be where the whole kiss a frog get a prince thing came from.
Dreams and nightmares; DMT or another mystery?
Is the difference between a dream and a hallucination, whether you are asleep or awake?
Hallucinations appear as real experiences to people that are having one, and so do many people feel their dream is real. It is not until, the person wakes up, that they can realize it was only a dream. When the drug or substance causing an hallucination goes away, the person can perceive reality again. Maybe a little piece at a time but eventually they return to "normal".
These two events have some similarity and maybe there is a direct connection a some level.
Hypnosis also has some of these properties, in that reality has been dictated to them by the hypnotist.
Your comment about the DMT having a five minute absorption in the body, also tracks with the length of most dreams. huh.
I am not saying that there are these connections, but what if.....
Very informative hub!
Interesting hub! I love the artwork at the top. Who's the artist?
Hi,
I loved this hub, and will revisit!!
I think you would find Ramtha very enlightening. Google it--and this page with short essays might be hard to find:
http://ramtha.com/html/community/teachings/default
(his essays are not written/composed--they are transcribed from recordings!)
He takes the mystery out of the mystical.
Enjoy!
patrick--Thank you for that link! I will definitely check it out. :)
Wow, and I just stumbled upon it! I really should come to your hubs more often Pam, every time I find some kind of gem here. :)
Misha that's really nice of you to say. I like your new photo. :)
Have a good weekend.
Interesting article but I WISH you wouldn't talk about so-called 'anti-depressants' and psychedelic experiences in the same breath or meaning.
I despair when people who explore the psychedelic field aren't ALSo aware of the myth of mental illness, and the corruption surrounding ot from big pharma down!
it is a scam. I creates a myth that peoples sadness is a disease which needs 'medication' which then becomes more and more, and for more and more bogus diagnoses.
here in the UK the other day it is reported that doctors now will be able to push these toxic drugs at people who have had beravement, or physical disease etc. This is an outrage. If you cannot see the PROFIT driving this...? Well!
I am not saying some people dont claim they want to take 'anti-depressants'. That is their own choice. But also remember the MYTH of 'mental illness' is pushed far and wide. The pharma industry spends millions on ads and bribing doctrs and shrinks to push it
Psychedelics are completely differernt. They are sacred. They are for body and soul. Not coming from a mindset which sees people as mere chemical machines
Hi Juliano--I don't think we disagree. I've written on those issues as well. Here's one I wrote recently on depression:
I need help, every night they are in my bedroom, they've
hurt me a lot and they've show me babies they only say: it's your baby, I don't like that, they are controlling all people like me, the've isolated me from friends, family etc.
in order to keep me in silence, or may be they've other plans for me, I'm affraid and tired of that, I don't know what to do. I've discovered many things ands secrets of them. But now they're controlling almost all the people and
most of them don`t know. They've pressioned me like other people too, in the economic way If I want to get a job or to rent my house in order to live and to eat they avoid that, I'm tired of that, what do they want me to do? I'don't want to be experimented in this way, and they have done this to me and to my son fo many years. Now I know they are taken human bodies or they change the people, because now my son is not the same, it's another person in his body, what can I do? If you can give an advice please write me to my mail, I'm desperated: el_la53@yahoo.com
Woah .....super hub. Funny you would bring this up with the Alien question. I'm surprised you've said nothing of Philip Schneider. He can be found on my hub 'UFO, No' He mentions the same connection, only in a different way. We are being harvested for this gland. Aliens like to 'trip-out' too!
Hi Sofia (if you read this?
I am so upset what your going through. I feel I couldn't ignore your impassioned message, and I really wish I could help you, but it all seems SO mysterious to me, and VERRy confusing
The whole thing about the Greys used to freak me out so much I couldn't research about it, and if i did it would be Dr Steven Greer's 'comforting' info that they are 'programmed life forms' (PLFs) made by the HUMAN cabal so as to create fear amongst their chosen victims regarding 'aliens'--Ie., Greer's mantra is that ALL kosher ETs are benevolent!
But I have been reserarching about them and am even MORE confused. Ie., if you read the famous adbuxction of Betty Anreasson's you hear her say that the Grey's were involved but they were like part and parcel with light beings who were full of love....?
You also hear people like Jim Sparkes say how the Greys are concerned about how we are treating planet Earth
But ALSO there are stories like yours where the abductees feel trully fucked with and oppressed by these beings. I am sure I would!!
I cannot imagine what advice I could give you> I remember reading something, but its a vague memory--about some thing you can think to get rid of them
I have heard in NDEs when people are in 'hell' that when they have cried out for 'God' they get this dramatic help. You could try that?
Also you could try and get in touch with a REAL shaman/healer---hopefully indigenous and ask for advice. They usually are far moree understanding of these experiences that most people
I hope you also have sought out support from other abuductees/experiencers? THAT would be a great FIRSt move then you wouldn't feel SO isolated with this incredible problem
peace
Juliano
Teresa McGurk says:
5 months ago
So, the pineal gland helps regulate the body's interaction with (among the other things you mentioned) DMT in a manner that lets us make sense out of all the auditory and visual stimulae we are bombarded with when awake?