Are Doctors The Cause Of The Uninsured?

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By Lady Guinevere


The High Cost of Health Insurance

For a number of people the high cost of Health Insurance is just too high. I went online and did a search for a family of 4. Here is a breakdown of some major insurance companies:

Network Coverage: Per Month Charge 403.00, Deductible 5000.00, Office Visit 35.00, Co-insurance 20%

PPO Coverage: Per month Charge 480.00, Deductible 5000.00 Office Visit 0% After Deductible and 0% Co-Insurance After Deductible

There are other plans that are less expensive, but for the most part this is what it costs to the consumer.

Discount cards work similar to Insurance cards. You pay your bill minus the discounted amount. The remainder is paid to the doctor after he files the claim.

These are all well and done, but one has to be meticullous as to what plans they can get and what plans are offered with their company plans.

Insurance Companies vs Your Doctor

Have you ever been told what surgery is right for you and what amount of Hospital stay they will pay for? There are HMO's PPO's and some other insurnace companies that will over ride your doctor's orders,. I have had complaints from numerous doctors about this. It is rediculous in the fact that the consumers are getting ripped off by the companies who are there to save them money for those unexpected visits and hospital stays.

You would thimnk that they would also pay for preventative care so that they wouldn't have to pay YOUR hard earned money. It is in my opinion that the Health Insurance Company's are a scam and a rip off.

The Doctor's should be the one's who are in charge of your health and not the insurance companies.

HMO

From Wikipedia.com:

A health maintenance organization (HMO) is a type of managed care organization (MCO) that provides a form of health care coverage in the United States that is fulfilled through hospitals, doctors, and other providers with which the HMO has a contract. The Health Maintenance Organization Act of 1973 required employers with 25 or more employees to offer federally certified HMO options. Unlike traditional indemnity insurance, an HMO covers only care rendered by those doctors and other professionals who have agreed to treat patients in accordance with the HMO's guidelines and restrictions in exchange for a steady stream of customers.

PPO's

From Wikipedia:

In health insurance, a preferred provider organization (or "PPO", sometimes referred to as a participating provider organization) is a managed care organization of medical doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers who have covenanted with an insurer or a third-party administrator to provide health care at reduced rates to the insurer's or administrator's clients.

The idea of a preferred provider organization is that the providers will provide the insured members of the group a substantial discount below their regularly-charged rates. This will be mutually beneficial in theory, as the insurer will be billed at a reduced rate when its insured utilize the services of the "preferred" provider and the provider will see an increase in its business as almost all insureds in the organization will use only providers who are members. Even the insured should benefit, as lower costs to the insurer should result in lower rates of increase in premiums. Preferred provider organizations themselves earn money by charging an access fee to the insurance company for the use of their network. They negotiate with providers to set fee schedules, and handle disputes between insurers and providers. PPOs can also contract with one another to strengthen their position in certain geographic areas without forming new relationships directly with providers.

The Kicker

We have had to change Doctor's several times because they don't accept all Insurance plans or companies. We have had those Discounted Plans too and many doctor's, at least in my area, refuse them. Sure the discounted card companies tell you to add them to the network, only some doctors refuse that as well. So how are the uninsured supposed to be insured?

As I see it and as we have experienced with doctors, hospitals and insurance companies the root cause for lack of health care are the Doctor's themselves. This leaves those who really need the care without insurance which contributes to the numbers of those who are uninsured.

Doctor's should take all health insurance cards and plans and the Insurance companies should let the doctor's decide on the best health for the patient.

Adding the above information about HMO's and PPO's it is clearer to me that the Health Insurance Industry is nothing but a money-making scam that feeds on people's pocket books.  I also understnad now shy doctor's don't want to take those discount cards.

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CJStone profile image

CJStone  says:
13 months ago

Hi Lady G, the easy solution would be the system we have here in the UK. A national insurance scheme, which everyone pays into, and which costs less overall because no one is making a profit from it, and a National Health Service, free at the point of use for all British subjects.

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Amanda Severn  says:
13 months ago

Hi Lady G, I've read so much on HubPages about healthcare in the States, and it sounds like a nightmare. We moan and groan at times about our National Health Service, but reading articles like this, makes me realise just how lucky we are!

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Lady Guinevere  says:
13 months ago

Thank you both for stopping by. I have a friend who lives in the UK and he tells me that there are waiting lists to be able to get appontments and surgeries. Is that true? He has a form of Muscular Dystrophy on the muscles on his face and has to wear a special mask at night.

Lady Guinevere profile image

Lady Guinevere  says:
13 months ago

I also think that Hospitals should be run non-profit.

Amanda Severn profile image

Amanda Severn  says:
13 months ago

Yes there are waiting lists (that's what we mostly moan about) but there is also a private healthcare option if you want to fast-track, and judging by some of the things you say in your hub, that's possibly still a competitive option for some procedures!

Lady Guinevere profile image

Lady Guinevere  says:
13 months ago

Just how much does your health care plans cost per month?

Amanda Severn profile image

Amanda Severn  says:
13 months ago

We pay something called National Insurance as part of our taxes. It just gets deducted from my wages and I've never really thought about the amount, but I know that the more you earn, the more you pay, and really low earners are exempt, as are the unwaged. Whatever the figure it's well worth it, because there's no limits on treatment, no exceptions, and emergency care is inclusive. The waiting lists can be problematic, but illnesses such as cancer are dealt with as priorities. The only other big bug bear for some is that new, expensive drugs are not always available on the NHS, but as I mentioned before, there's no law against going private, but you do still have to pay national insurance if you're employed.

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Lady Guinevere  says:
13 months ago

Are prescriptions on that helath plan too and is there a discount? We have heakth care like the above in my hub but sometimes prescriptions are sometimes separate. Some plans you can get them for $1.00 and some are only 30% of the total cost--which can be expensive if the drugs are like 300 bux a pop.

Medicare and Medicaid are plans for seniors and the poor here but my mother just had to py for half of her presciption drugs and on a fixed income she can't afford them.

My mother-in-law who passed away in May was having problems too with them and the Health Insurance Companies. Once she reach the age of 80 they stopped paying some health care that she still needed, leaving the family to take up the difference.

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Amanda Severn  says:
13 months ago

Yes, we pay for prescriptions in England, but I thinlk it's free in Wales and Scotland (they have independant parliaments dealing with certain issues. I'm a bit hazy on the detail, but I believe they either have abolished prescription charges, or plan to do so) The charge is a flat rate per item. It's a while since I last needed any meds thank goodness, but I think it's around £7 regardless of the true value of the medication. Children in full-time education, senior citizens, the unemployed and pregnant women are all exempt charges, as are certain long-term health categories, such as epileptics.

jcepeda  says:
13 months ago

Doctors are not to blame for the high cost of medical insurance. This hub is really totally misleading in its information. The high cost of insurance comes from malpractice lawsuits mostly. It has nothing to do with doctors.

The attorneys in the US have turned the medical treatment into a risk/no-risk process. If it is a high risk procedure, then you are on your own. The insurance company isn't going to pay for this as it will likely end up in disaster with some scum bucket attorney filing a lawsuit because the doctor messed up.

Doctors will not accept discount cards because no one is prepared to pay what it costs the doctors to treat a patient. The discount card is sponsored by our payroll and sales taxes so it is in a way just like the health care in the UK or Canada which is as bad as can be. Otherwise why would patients from Canada should to come here for treatment?

Again, doctors are not going to take in a patient that is not willing or able to pay for the treatment, no matter what you call the insurance. Discount cards are nothing but a way for the government to defer paying for those medical services or forcing doctors to discount the services to the point where they can't afford to provide those services.

Why do you think the doctors will not provide services for either free or very low fees? There's just no way they can keep their practice going if they did so.

By the way, our US health system is just great. I recently had to have a growth removed from my skin and was able to go to a skin specialist have the procedure done (I did wait three weeks because I wanted a specific specialist although I had a choice of several) but all it cost me was the office visit ($15).

I will be going to a cardiologist in a couple of weeks and again, there will be little wait, and the cost will be just $15.

The insurance cost to me is about $180 and it is well worth it. Although I have used discount cards before, I totally understand how frustrating it is for doctors to work with them. They just don't get paid for their services. Insurance companies will moan and groan but will pay the bill.

For what it's worth.

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hot dorkage  says:
13 months ago

Jcepeda is one of the lucky ones who has insurance. Yes of course there are excellent treatments in the USA for those who are covered. But I think you are wrong to blame the doctors. The root cause is greed. Once insurance ceases to be a social contract and starts to be hard nosed for profit, of course they don't want to pay claims. They want healthy people to pay their money and not get sick. If you are sick or old they don't want you, or, if they'll have you at all it will be at one exorbitant price.

Private insurance for profit is WRONG WRONG WRONG. It is a conflict of interest How can you have the best interest of the insured at heart when it is in direct conflict with the interest of the company.

Lady Guinevere profile image

Lady Guinevere  says:
13 months ago

jcepeda,

I did not blame the doctors for high insurance rates. Apparently you did not read the HMO and PPO plans above.

The law they passed for the HMO's to stay is rediculous to say the least. That gave all the insurance companies free range with what they can and cannot charge. I did in passing something about a cap on health insurance charges, but looking through all the insurance companies on thw qoutes sies, I didn't see any cap on anything. $5,000.00 for a deductable is just plain ripping you off!

Who said that any operation ishould be at the descretion of the insurance companies. Who tells you when you are going to die and what you are going to die of--you are saying that the insurance companies should do that too??? Get real!!

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