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By Ivorwen


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Those who have to tell you they're nice, that is...

Warning: The following statements are based on my experiences and observations. This is not written to put anyone down, but if you see yourself in the following, specifically the top two examples, please seek medical assistance immediately. Also, while this is not a serious piece, it isn't all in jest either. Enjoy!

...and, those who seem so overly nice, that they seem like a dream come true.

 


Webster's Definition of Nice

  1. a: WANTON, DISSOLUTE b: COY, RETICENT
  2. a: showing fastidious or finicky tastes: PARTICULAR (too ~ a palate to enjoy junk food) b: exacting in requirements or standards: PUNCTILIOUS (a ~ code of honor)
  3. possessing, marked by, or demanding great or excessive precision and delicacy (~ measurements)
  4. TRIVAL
  5. a: PLEASING, AGREEABLE (a ~ time) (a ~ person)
  6. a: socially acceptable: WELL-BREAD (from a ~ family) b: VIRTOUOS, RESPECTABLE, (was taught that ~ girls don't do that)
  7. POLITE, KIND (that's ~ of you to say)

 

He Seemed Nice

I was in elementary school when I first became aware that 'nice' people are not always nice. I'd seen some things on the playground that made me wonder, but it was the news coverage of Ted Bundy that showed me how dangerous 'nice' people could be.

He had recently murdered yet another young woman. The news showed pictures from surveillance cams of him limping along with crutches, talking to a dark haired girl. Her friends said, "He seemed so nice."

Lots of people thought he was nice -- but he wasn't.

Just because someone seems nice, doesn't mean they are trustworthy. Get to know them a while. Meet their friends and family. Make sure they are sane.

 


Arsenic and Old Lace

In one of Brooklyn's most charming neighborhoods live two of the dearest, sweetest, kindest old ladies that ever walked the earth. They give to charity and take good care of their insane nephew, who thinks he is Teddy Roosevelt. They have extra rooms in their old house, so take in boarders.

If you happen to be a lonely old man, with no friends or family, they have another service they offer. This service begins with a glass of Elderberry wine, and ends in the basement...

Now before some of you lonely, elderly gents go getting all excited, I'd have you know that it would be more favorable to be a spamming fan of Frogdropping's, and be stuffed in the bathroom, than take a trip to the basement with these dear, sweet old ladies.

Don't believe me?

Take a peak at the videos, of the goings-on in their old home...

  • To watch the whole movie, begin here.


Other Nice People

  • On gal tried to get me to shut down my business and go into business with her. Her spiel was that she was such a sweet person, everyone loved her, and we could do so well in business together.

Yep, she was a real sweetie. Trying to become business partners with every like business in town.

  • Another gal, who told me how nice she was, tried repeatedly to guilt-trip me into taking her places, because she didn't want to spend her money on gas. When I made it clear that I would not hire someone to watch my business to run her around, she became angry and spread rumors at her place of work that drug paraphernalia had been found in my home. This behavior got her fired.

Her boss is truly a nice guy. No, I mean it. He really is nice and he won't tell you so!

 


A Little about one Nice Lady...

Last spring my husband hired a handy man to stain our house. This guy arrived with his girlfriend in tow. She welcomed herself into my house, and began making small talk.

No, she didn't kill anyone, at least not that I know of...

After a few minutes, it became obvious that she was not too happy with her life. It seemed everyone was picking on her.

I sat down, because, evidently, she really needed someone to talk to. She told me about work and how her man had been unemployed all winter. How no one would hire him, and those who had helped them out over the winter were now being mean. Knowing about half the people she was talking about, I had a hard time thinking she was telling the whole story.

I probed for information, and was met with tales of what a nice, helpful person she was, who wouldn't take advantage of anyone. How they hadn't paid their rent or electricity all winter, and couldn't understand why their power was being cut off. How those who had loaned them money wanted to be repaid, and when they had hired her man, so he could work off his debt, they wouldn't pay him cash.

When I asked her, "How have you been so nice, and what does it have to do with any of this?" She told me, "When people want us to pay them back, it makes me sad and hurts my heart. I am really one of the nicest person you will ever meet. I don't say anything mean to anyone."

Being greatly confused, I asked, "So what in the world does that have to do with paying your debts? If you owe money, you owe money! If he can work it off, why are you complaining?"

I know, jab, twist, but I wasn't intending to be spiteful, I just wanted to know...

She looked at me with a dazed expression on her face, "It hurts my feelings when they ask, and he feels better about his work when he gets paid."

I was going to have to mull that one over.

"So why didn't he work all winter? There have been plenty of jobs in the paper for his skills." I pried.

"He doesn't like the cold." She stated, matter-a-factly.

"Painters work inside in the winter." I prodded.

"Can't you see, these people are being so mean to us? They want us to pay them back, and they have more money than we do, and I have been so nice to them. I haven't told them how much it hurts my feelings when they us to pay them back!" She insisted.

And so the saga continued...

Chant: "Same song, next verse,

A little bit louder and a little bit worse."

... until the house was done.

It ended later that summer, when he passed on and she, in her grief, had thrown multiple temper tantrums in public -- always telling people how nice she was and how they should bend over backwards to get her what she wanted.

 

Those Who are Truly Nice

Now obviously, some people in this world are genuinely nice, #5 and #6, but I have never heard them say so. No, nice people don't need to tell anyone they're nice. They just are.

By the way, I'm not nice. Just ask my brother!

If you would like to see someone, who I find to be genuinely nice, click here.

 

Disagree with me, if you like, but you won't change my mind!

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Joy At Home profile image

Joy At Home  says:
5 months ago

I guess I don't run into "nice" people that often. I should be glad of it! And I am. ;-)

alekhouse profile image

alekhouse  says:
5 months ago

You know what? I completely agree with you.I have found, in my over 70 years, dealing with people, that 1. (like you pointed out) genuinely nice people don't go around telling you they're nice all the time. 2. If someone appears to be overly nice, they are usually hiding something (like anger, distain, greed, whatever).

I run a bed and breakfast, so I have hundreds of people in and out of my Inn. You can imagine what an education that is! I enjoyed the hub and, BTW, it is very well written and entertaining.

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

Thank you Alekhouse. I'm glad to know that I am not alone in my observations, and yours is judgement I trust.

cindyvine profile image

cindyvine  says:
5 months ago

So Frieda is genuinely nice? Do you think I can tap her for a loan then? lol

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

LOL -- I didn't say that nice people were bankers... If money acts as like water in a sieve when you carry it, I would look for the ignorant, not the nice. :)

\Brenda Scully  says:
5 months ago

Hi saw that arsinic and old lace at the theatre locally, it was so funny, had to watch the film also. My mum used to work for Harold Shipman remember the doctor who killed so many. He was the best loved man in town, and even his receptionists and patients, stood by him,,,,,,, but he was guilty, so just goes to show ya..... I am not nice either honest...

cindyvine profile image

cindyvine  says:
5 months ago

Ah Brenda, you are so nice!

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

Oh, wow, Brenda!  That is scarry.

Eric Graudins profile image

Eric Graudins  says:
5 months ago

One of my favourite sayings :

Expecting the world to treat you well because you're a nice person is like expecting a bull not to charge you because you're a vegetarian.

(Author Unknown)

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

ROTFL!!! That is great Eric.

Amanda Severn profile image

Amanda Severn  says:
5 months ago

I've met a few 'nice' people in my time, who have turned out to be not so nice. It's frustrating when you can see straight through them, but they're successfully conning and defrauding all around you!

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

Yep! But, for some reason, that seems to be the way it goes, and if you say anything to others, then you are being mean, because they are such a 'nice' person. :)

Useful Knowledge profile image

Useful Knowledge  says:
5 months ago

You are correct on this hub. I have met alot of "nice" people that were putting on a front. This is a very well written hub. Great job!

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

Thank you Useful Knowledge.

LiftedUp profile image

LiftedUp  says:
5 months ago

Ivorwen--

The first such person I ran into came into my home weekend after weekend for a period of time, and since then I have had experience with several.  Unfortunately, such people seem to think that what they say outweighs everything they do, and that the speech is a greater reality than their actions. 

Good hub, and a good job of responding to this gal.  Someone needs to help them take their blinders off!

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

Thanks LiftedUp.  You are so right about the 'speech outweighing the actions' concept.  I just don't get that.

The other thing that baffles me is the talking behind peoples back, and the reassurance that they would never say these mean things to the person's face, because they don't want to hurt anyone's feelings... I'd rather have it said to my face, and don't hesitate to say so, and let them know that their backstabbing is not nice.  :)

Jarn profile image

Jarn  says:
5 months ago

You see, that's why I act a right bas---d in person. People are more likely to trust me over someone preoccupied with acting nice.

And on that same note, used to do volunteer work in the county courthose where Ted Bundy was tried. It has since been turned into the orange County Regional History Society, but the courtoom's still intact. The table where Bundy sat is still there, he even carved his name on it with a pen, though one can't help but wonder who would've given him implement of any kind.

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

I can see that the disguise works well for you. I have not trouble thinking that you mean what you say. =)

That is truly interesting about Bundy. I know prisoners are allowed to have pens, but pen caps.

badcompany99  says:
5 months ago

Happy days, I won't turn out like Ted Bundy cause I deff am not nice ; )

metaphysician profile image

metaphysician  says:
5 months ago

Thanks for sharing this and especially your advices!

Madame X profile image

Madame X  says:
5 months ago

Sometimes people use "niceness" as a cover. They don't tell you they're nice, and they do act nice. But after a time you come to realize that they "act nice" so you won't look at their other, sometimes really rotten, behavior. I've run into a few women like this and their deception leaves a very lasting mark. Now I instinctually distrust "nice" people until they've proven themselves over time.

Besides, regular good people aren't nice all the time, being just human. So when someone is, it's a red flag.

Great hub Ivorwen :)

thefount profile image

thefount  says:
5 months ago

I appreciate your advice about not taking 'nice' people at face value. I used to do this and paid a heavy price at times. We need to take our time to learn a person's heart and motives - FOR SURE! It takes a while for the wolf in sheep's clothing to reveal itself, but due to it's nature it eventually must growl sometime! This is a real good hub! Thank you.

goodfriendiam profile image

goodfriendiam  says:
5 months ago

I enjoyed reading this and it is the truth for that matter. doesn't it just make you have goose bumps all over when someone, starts to talk like that. It's like it is time for you to go. Bye bye. A and by the way my friend I will be out of the country for about forever....lol

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
5 months ago

It definitely brings the knee-jerk reaction of "never want to see you again!"

fortunerep profile image

fortunerep  says:
5 months ago

I find it hard to trust anyone, it takes awile to build up trusts. Sometimes a lifetime,

dori

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
4 months ago

I agree Dori, and yet there are those that win my trust in a very short time, because, regardless of their faults, they are real.

Answer Man profile image

Answer Man  says:
4 months ago

Love it! Trust no one. Not even your barber...or rather...especially your barber. After all, Sweeney Todd was no sweet-heart. ;)

dohn121 profile image

dohn121  says:
4 months ago

I loved the line in the movie, "The Godfather": "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer." What does this translate to? Your enemies will be more honest with you than your friends. This may sound like a paradox, but its true. Just try and get an honest opinion out of your loved ones. Ask them something random like, "Does this make me look fat?" Makes sense, right?

I really enjoyed this hub. Thank you for bringing this up. What it really boils down to is that there are a lot of "fake" people out there. Just be on the lookout! Lots of times too, people aren't always what they seem...You'll be surprised.

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
4 months ago

LOL! Answer Man

Your right Dohn. When I was in college, we took some personality tests. One of the instructions was to ask three of our friends what they thought of the results and three people we didn't get along with what they thought our weakness were. It was very insightful, and the most interesting part was that those we didn't get along with often had a clear view of our strengths also.

partluck profile image

partluck  says:
4 months ago

Such truth here. I have never liked people that are so nice and fake, I just don't get it when other people say they are so wonderful. I mean why can't people see through the nice charade.

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
4 months ago

Thanks for stopping by, Partluck.

Mr. Happy profile image

Mr. Happy  says:
4 months ago

If you have to tell people that you are "nice", you are either pretty low on self-esteem or maybe you were an assassin at some point in your life and feel bad about it now. I would be suspect about anyone telling me that they are nice ... like "I don't bite, you can talk to me ..." ... weird to say the least.

worldgrandeur profile image

worldgrandeur  says:
3 months ago

This is just correct... Appearances are deceptive. Thanks

shamelabboush profile image

shamelabboush  says:
3 months ago

Horrible stories, specially this loco Ted!!! That will surely change my concepts a lot... Thanks Ivorwen.

\Brenda Scully  says:
3 months ago

it is impossible to always be nice in this world..... if you put up an image of always being nice, chances are everything gets bottled up then ya snap...... read this again liked the comment about the bull and the vegetarian.

LEWJ profile image

LEWJ  says:
2 months ago

I enjoyed this hub. Very well done.

jenblacksheep profile image

jenblacksheep  says:
2 months ago

I like this hub!

I definitely think that if someone seems to good to be true then they probably are. Noone is ever nice the whole time, even if on the whole they are a nice person. So if they try and convince you that they are then they are definitely trying to mislead you!

Nice is a horrible word anyway. I wouldn't want to be described as nice!

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
2 months ago

Jen Black Sheep -- wonder why you wouldn't choose nice as a word to describe yourself.?! :)

I've been told I'm too good to be true, but never too nice.

jenblacksheep profile image

jenblacksheep  says:
2 months ago

I've always thought that describing someone as 'nice' is like describing them as 'ok'. Kinda like someone saying you're not bad, but nothing special. I'd like to leave more of an impact than just being 'nice.' Perhaps it's just me that thinks that then.

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
2 months ago

I know what you are saying. I suppose it is all in how it is said. Had a friend in high school who described hot girls as being, "Nice. Fine like a new set of snow tires!"

ginosblog profile image

ginosblog  says:
2 months ago

How true. Love the movies clips. That was one of my favorites. By the way, that nice thing ranks right up there with "honest" and "trust me". Great blog.

Ivorwen profile image

Ivorwen  says:
3 weeks ago

Any one who has to say 'trust me,' on a regular basis is up to no good.

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