Bible Conspiracy Theory
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Bible Of Government Conspiracy
The following is my "individual" theory based on my logical thought. The beauty of the mind and free thought is: You do not have to believe anything you are about to read, however if you do not debate my ideas in your individual thought, are you not sacrificing individualism of free mind based on influence and taught belief?
It is my firm belief that religion and government is a conspiracy to delute individualism. The government knows that it cannot operate as 1 in a country of individuals. The United States is a country based on "Christian Beliefs". Our US constitution was founded on Christian principles. If you have everyone in the country to believe in it's leader, "become followers", the country will operate as 1. The governments main objective is to operate as one. To operate as one, you "must" sacrifice "individualism" to follow.
In my view, the bible is contradiction of free thought. It gives answers to the "unknown" depriving the individual minds free thought to form belief. So in my logical thought the bible is a contradiction of mind.
What is the main objective of government and the bible? In my view, the bible, government, religion is linked. Their main objective is to drastically reduce "individualism". What was the United States like when we had "individualism", before we became united? It was complete chaos. This simply proves that a group of individuals cannot operate as 1. You must have the majority "to follow" and have a majority belief = ridding individualism.
So in my theory, the bibles main goal is to act as laws to end "individualism" for individuals to come together as "followers". When you get a majority to act as "followers", you have "majority control". If we were all individuals with individual belief based on individual free thought uninfluenced, we would possibly never operate as 1. In my logical thinking, this information proves the bible as a system to control the masses and also contradict "free thought and individualism".
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I welcome and appreciate your comments James more than others for the facts that we have disagreements. If not for debate, everyone would believe the same thing. Saying that, If everyone believed the bible, everyone would believe the same thing. If everyone believed the same thing, we would stay current and never evolve. We are a nation based on christian belief. Look at where we are today in the "United" States. Our constitution based on christian belief has gotten us where we are today. You cannot associate politics with religion. We are a nation founded on religion. If you base no belief on the bible for hitler, you must base the belief of the bible for the current United States. We are on the verge of chaos. I have faith in my God. The "men" who wrote the bible are no Gods of mine.
"The worst governments in the history of the world have been those without God"
Who said anything about a country without God? I said a country without "religion".
I enjoy our conversations.
This used to be a Christian Nation. I do not think so any more. A cuss word in a movie was taboo 50 years ago. Now, nudity, simulated sex (or real sex), F-bombs all over the place, gore and mayhem fill the screen. Even prime-time television promotes the most base humanity on display while children are watching. Internet porno, condoms handed out in school, lawsuits against any mention of God in public square. I think we are in trouble. None of this represents a Christian Nation. The Turning Away. That is the cause of our present chaos.
"I think we are in trouble. None of this represents a Christian Nation"
James, I do not think we have to be ran as a "christian nation". I believe in God through "individual" belief. In my belief of God, I believe in appreciation, kindness, humbleness, understanding, forgiveness, love. I have excellent morales without "anothers" word of God. Saying this, I think we could run smoothly based on "morale laws" voted on by the public majority/us. I believe we are in trouble because we operate out of love of money and hidden agendas.
Very interesting flow of ideas you have here. It's ironic though, because the Bible itself preaches against conformity and giving up individuality. I can think of a handful of verses of the top of my head, the most compelling of which is in Romans chapter 12, "Do not be conformed any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind." I think that if you were to read the Bible, you would see that it's not about conforming a person to a certain set of rules, it's more a book that first shows you who God is -- his character and attributes -- and then it shows you how to have a relationship with him. And, as all relationships are quite different from one another, there's no intended mass conformity. Thanks for the thought provoking hub!
"Bible itself preaches against conformity and giving up individuality."
How can a book that influences thought preach against influencing thought? This is contradiction.
Thank You for reading and Commenting.
Well, I think you probably ought to use a better choice of words. If I wrote a book that told people to "start being free thinkers," then yes, I would effectively be influencing their thoughts, but it could not be said that I'm trying to conform them and make them give up their individuality. Rather, I'm encouraging the opposite. Just because I'm influencing someone's thought, doesn't mean I'm trying to take away their individuality. Otherwise, even this hub is wrong by your own standards. You're influencing people's thought by this hub, giving them a logical flow of ideas intended to free them from their presuppositions of religion, thereby conforming them to another set of ideas.
Benji, If God wanted me to believe the bible, God wouldn't have provided me with "free thought" and "logic".
No Disrespect, but you are missing the "big picture" of my point. You are reading whats on the lines, I'm reading whats behind them.
"Just because I'm influencing someone's thought, doesn't mean I'm trying to take away their individuality."
This statement you made is not logical. The bible teaches one to believe through fear. "If you don't believe, you go to hell". "If you don't follow, you go to hell".
The bible teaches through fear which corrupts free thought. The bible "groups believers" which corrupts individuality.
"You're influencing people's thought by this hub, giving them a logical flow of ideas intended to free them from their presuppositions of religion"
Once again, another false statement. If you would read my first paragraph: The following is my "individual" theory based on my logical free thought. The beauty of the mind and free thought is: You do not have to believe anything you are about to read, however if you do not debate my ideas in your individual thought, are you not sacrificing individualism of free mind and thought based on previous influence and belief?
Thank You.
Your my first fan!! Thanks! I really enjoy these types of conversations.
Let me make sure i understand what your saying. Would it be the same as saying "Individualism is truth outside ( or instead) of religon, Bible, Government"?
In my belief of "absolute" individualism, I would have to say yes.
Thanks for reading.
I have been in many bands over the last 40 years as a drummer and all the members were individual musicians before they joined the band and while they were in the band they remained as such.
When songs were written we all did it together as a whole and I never thought to myself "I am not an individual anymore" because I was contributing to the song. Even if I wrote a whole song by myself, when I listened to the other input from the guys, it got even better because I thought outside myself.
When we played the songs, we were individual musicians playing together as one, or else who the hell would listen to all of us playing a solo. That's why it is called a band, like in "a band of brothers"...they are all different, but work as One...is this evil to you?
Don't you like music, do you know how it is created?
By individuals coming together, not losing any identity and playing as a band. That is true music.
When you have an individual artist playing and writing music then all you get is HIM and that's it. Now when you have a band, and they all write songs, you get a glimpse into all of them as individuals and as a whole unit playing as one. That's the beauty of it.
If one takes as solo, they others still play and back him up too, so he is not out there all alone.
Some guys are great playing a venue all alone, like a solo pianist, but ask him and he will tell you that it does not compare to his band playing together.
You do not see a solo performer selling out the Rose Bowl, but a band will.
Don't you still do things together with people as one?
Play ball, play with your kids, make things? This is always done with many acting as one and it is more fun than doing it alone. Even man was created not to be alone as just one individual, but needed a helper to complete him, while he kept his individuality.
Is this evil to you?
To much individualism leads to ANARCHY!!!
Shalom
"Don't you still do things together with people as one?
Play ball, play with your kids, make things? This is always done with many acting as one and it is more fun than doing it alone. Even man was created not to be alone as just one individual, but needed a helper to complete him, while he kept his individuality."
I agree that individuals must work as a team at times. I do not agree that a team must make mine and my familys "individual family" decisions.
"To much individualism leads to ANARCHY!!!"
I agree with this statement. I wrote another hub on my ideas of too much individualism. http://hubpages.com/hub/Are-We-Destined-to-Fail
You say:
"I agree with this statement. I wrote another hub on my ideas of too much individualism"
Well, I know I cannot have to much TRUTH. That never leads to evil.
So it appears that you do not believe in individualism to the max?
As an individual I am free to serve my Creator...I am not a robot. I sacrifice things for HIM for a greater good.
"So it appears that you do not believe in individualism to the max?"
I think it is clear that we self-destruct as a team with mass individualism. Yes, I think individualism is dangerous for a country to be divided on some occasions. Do you trust "politicians" to make "your" decisions or do you have your "individual" preferences? I personally do not trust politicians.
"As an individual I am free to serve my Creator...I am not a robot. I sacrifice things for HIM for a greater good."
I don't knock you for your belief. I am simply saying that every individual has a different individual belief until becoming a follower.
I looked into many "forms of truth"...I got tired of forms and chose THE TRUTH who is LIVING TRUTH and not a from of it.
Then I became HIS follower.
Shalom
Ah, but did you look at "your individual" form of truth or to anothers form of truth? It is about becoming a leader, not becoming a follower.
You know what I think? I believe the whole bible is a load of bull and is designed to brainwash society. It was created by the authorities to control society and the status quo. I do not believe in You know who. I also believe that you will be saved from thier ploy if you do not use the names. I also believe that all of the bible means something, it's all the authorities code and every chapter in the old testament means something. I'm currently working on my theory and endeavour to crack this code and destroy the thousands of years of authorities work. Destroy the status quo. Destroy the bible.
Thank You for reading George. Good luck to you in your research. I wouldn't be surprised about the hidden agendas in the bible. I believe they are all small agendas supporting their bigger agenda which is control. Thanks for your thoughts.
Marine
I agree with your theory.
I believe that you can support your theory and also believe in a Deity or Creator without using the Bible or Religion.
If there are so many religions in the world and there is only one true Deity, why can't individuals choose to follow their own thought about their Deity?
I don't believe that not believing in a formal religion makes a person an atheist or an agnostic. If as they say God is in a person, then it doesn't require a religion to interpret that for you.
Many religions act much like a political corporate body. Decisions are made by their human leaders without divine inspiration. Of course, they tell us they are communicating with God, but so do all the other religions. Each religion gets a different message from their God. It doesn't sound like they are talking with the same God.
England created their own church because the King didn't want to be tied by it on his personal choices. The point here is not the prurient reason that he broke from the church, but that the decision was made by man and not be God.
Many decisions made by religious leaders are done for the same reason, in my opinion.
Not only do I believe that their should only be one Bible, there should only be one religion, if there is only on God.
The God of the Old Testament is definitely not the same God that is in the New Testament.
I think that religious followers shouldn't feel threatened when posed with questions that to the foundation of their religion. They should fee confident that they can give you the answers that you need to see their point. However, answering with the single word FAITH is not an answer to your questions. After all, the have the FAITH but you have the questions because you don't have faith.
You need answers that make you want to adopt their faith, but you can't just take the word. Saying believe my Faith is like them saying trust me. How many times have you trusted people that you don't know and have been disappointed with the result?
If we were not intelligent creatures, then we wouldn't have a problem with Faith. Unfortunately, being intelligent creates questions about us, our world and beyond. Faith is not an answer to these questions, it is a request to no think.
Has God portrayed by religion as a mystery really worked out that well? Is there any change in people from BC to AD and now. A positive change is what I am asking about.
As children most of us never questioned whether Santa Claus was real.
I would like to see more comments that discuss your theory rather than them focusing on you personally.
For example, if you question Albert Einstein's life style to challenge his theory of relativity, does that change the credibility of it?
Hello Opinion Duck, Thank You for reading/commenting. Always appreciated.
"I don't believe that not believing in a formal religion makes a person an atheist or an agnostic. If as they say God is in a person, then it doesn't require a religion to interpret that for you."
Excellent Comment, Again we share many of the same views. I believe most of the problem is in "terms" and "labels". If everyone were to claim individualism, there would be no way to label.
"Not only do I believe that their should only be one Bible, there should only be one religion, if there is only on God."
Spot on. Perfection should be perfect if the bible was God's word. I don't think there would be any errors as the bible clearly has to you and me. Nothing divine about mans flawed bible.
"I think that religious followers shouldn't feel threatened when posed with questions that to the foundation of their religion."
Pretty odd, I have had this exact thought before. Something never seemed right for someone to get defensive about belief. I have never been defensive over my belief unless someone told me I was wrong to believe what I do. However, my believe is always open to debate as shown in the hubs.
"Faith" is the dark matter. lol It feels in the holes for ones that doesn't except they don't have all the answers.
"Has God portrayed by religion as a mystery really worked out that well? Is there any change in people from BC to AD and now. A positive change is what I am asking about"
I will say I have seen some people change their lives for the better after gaining faith in something other than themselves. Some aren't responsible to depend on themselves, so choose a belief. To answer your question, overall, no, there has been no change for the good. Only repeated history.
"For example, if you question Albert Einstein's life style to challenge his theory of relativity, does that change the credibility of it?"
Not at all in my opinion. Questions lead to answers. Assumptions lead to, well, you know, take religion and the bible for instance. A great big assumption. lol Some fear to question I think because of the challenge of "faith". It's impossible to have faith when you question everything except for your abiblity to determine absolute individual truth which is always open to debate. I think some simply give up on individual thought and "pick" someone or something to believe.
Marine
I agree or I should say we agree.
I think some simply give up on individual thought and "pick" someone or something to believe.
This is especially true, it explains blind following.
I guess that it is comforting to be a part of something bigger than yourself.
I just haven't found it, yet.
Marine, keep writing and asking these important questions.
Hello Opinion Duck, Either comforting or it simply takes our/their minds off of themselves.
Hi marinealways,
Enjoyed reading your profile and this hub. You are most definitely a wise debater. I too believe that the Bible has many flaws because it is man written. I too believe in God, but have chosen to keep that relationship in between the two of us. It has worked very well for me over the past several decades.
That being said, there are some things in the Bible that have been correlated by archeologists. And while that is by no means proof of the entire document, it does help those who need to cling to something other than their own strengths.
I look forward to reading more of your hubs, and hope to have a few you might like as well!
Hello Fantasy, Thank You Much for reading and commenting. I'm glad you enjoyed. I'm also happy to hear that you are strong in individual belief to rely on yourself than depend on others word. I will be sure to read your hubs. Thank You
free thought means that God doesn't have a bunch of robots worshipping Him. How much more exciting is it when a human who is bombarded with sex, self confidence crap, wealth, alcohol, free way of living, peer pressure and they go against all that to have a relationship with God. I don't mean to be disrespectful but I am certain that if you read the bible and really challenged it and any contradictions you might think it says.. you may see the point of why it says one way. Jesus is the only one who said I am the Way the Truth and the Life. Noone comes to the Father except through me. Now because there is so much evidence backing up the bible. I really really implore you to check things out for yourself. Read it. Read the whole thing and study the times, the writers, the prophets, the very papyrus the words were written on.
Please do this. if not for me (a random stranger) but for God. who you say you personally have a relationship with.
please
Hello alli, you are wrong in your first statement. Your idea of free thought is to have everyone with the same belief in your God. This is not free thought. This is robotic.
Prophets are not real.
How do you know his name is God? How do you know God is a he? How do you know there aren't God's instead of one? You know nothing. All you have are assumptions witting by another man. You rely on prophets to get you through life. I'll rely on myself and a faith reason/purpose for my life.
Most of the Bible was written by old Jewish men. Since I am one, I have nothing against them, but I would not expect whole countries to act on the basis of my thoughts. Just my opinion.
Thank You for reading and commenting Jess.
Do you believe everyone should follow and believe the same belief?
marinealways24 says:
4 months ago
"Bible itself preaches against conformity and giving up individuality."
Actually God always elected individual instead of collective: Adam, Noah, David, Jesus, and Paul, naming few. When individual’s channels truth, then entire collective or nation is functioning properly.
There are only two main components in the Bible: Faith and love. They do not contradict each other.
USA for 85 years was reprogrammed by socialists (collectivists) from Europe. I am finding it much recently since they came out of shadows.
People's opinion predominating today creates religion. Religion is problem, not the Bible. But going away from God just watch.
Nice talking to you, friend.
Thank You for reading and commenting Vlad.
Did I say that the bible preaches for individuality rather than against? I don't remember saying this. If I did, it was a mistake and I disagree with it now. The bible or anything else that preaches grouped belief is contradiction to individuality in my belief.
I asked this question in forum post. Why would God use divine intervention to create the bible and not use divine intervention to save innocents from dying?
I don't think any creator would intervene by picking favorites in picking a prophet.
I will give you this, the bible is good guidance for those that need faith in a higher power to get them though life. It is much more comforting to believe someone divine has your good intentions in mind than to believe there is no purpose of life.
Thank You, Good talking to you also.
I disagree with Vlad's comment.
First, the bible is totally unnecessary if you believe in the powerful God. That God should be able to communicate his message to everyone directly as well as individually.
There would be no need for the tablets containing the Ten Commandments (not that we physically have them). Giving power to individuals demeans the purpose of God. Humans are the wrong mechanisms to be God's messengers. Now, Angels would be a better choice if God chooses to delegate.
Religion and politics are badly done because we have mere humans taking care of our interests. These humans have their own goals and they are not the same as our goals.
Anyone that has taken a psychology class has participated in the experiment where a phrase is passed from one person to another person in the room. Along the way, the message is changed until the last person has a message that no longer resembles the real original message.
The Bible has that same problem, as well as the lengthy passage of time before it was put to a writing. The other problem is that language is not precise and it offers many interpretations. Also, the Old Testament should have been all God needed if he truly did inspire it. The New Testament changes the God of the Old Testament and changes the original message.
While the Bible(s) are clever they are not a divine creation. A for Divine intervention, why would there be a need for it, if this world was just a test to replace Paradise lost?
There is no need for Prophets in this world, if you know the future then there is no need to play it out.
Finally, compare God with the comic book Super Heroes. How does God compare with them?
It's freemasonry pure evil (Goverments worshiping in satan) they control the world, they edit the so called bible...it was corrupted from the beginning, the problem is that, the society believes everything what others say, not GOD, they believe in the so called moon landing...., after NASA have admited it was a hoax and it was staged, public didn't really give a sh*t, some still believe, seriously think about it? if you have a camera in moon it would melt straight away...how pathetic after the truth was discovered they then decided to say it was a hoax....Bla bla... I guess I'm out of subject...
Main point is, people need to look up the facts, the problem is that they are brainwashed and who is going to believe you....
We are just a bunche of slaves...living in this modern world that doesn't seem it is but honestly it is, just like the old times..under one world government...
I guess I have nothing else to say, one thing for sure don't believe in everything what others say, believe in what is right, follow the right religion, which has NEVER been edited by satanist......
We are in the devils mouth........
Will you try to escape it?
Or will you fight for what is right, and sacrifice your life if forced by elite leaders, e.g. G.W.B..etc
Thank You for commenting Freedom of Thought.
You are a slave to your belief. Your comment is disturbing. There is no devils mouth. Only your and my creations.
I'm not saying my belief is slavery, what I'm saying is that this world is enslaved, you may not understand what really enslaved means, but soon you will realize that everything we do for a living is just a rule we have to follow in order to live?
Think about this:
What are we working for ? (Seriously)
To live? or to serve the elites?
Who are you to say "My comment is disturbing"?
When the truth it self is disturbing?
Okay lets be very specific there is no devils mouth, but there is evil everywhere? makes sense?
What is TOP SECRET?
ANSWER: TRUTH
Freedom of Thought,
I agree that we are working to serve government elites. I agree that there is evil or bad everywhere.
I do not agree to a follower belief. It contradicts individualism.
I understand we have to follow to an extent, laws, work.
This is limited to only the physical. Why give them your mental as well?
FoT, I believe that a Moon Hoax could be possible from our Government. There is much that they cover up so the public won't know about it.
The thing that interests me about your statement is the fact that we never did another Moon Landing? The answer to why not would be of real interest. In the last forty years, you would think that we would now have a moon base just like we have a space station.
The Space Shuttle is the model T of space travel that never generated a new improved version. The Space Shuttle was designed and built when many of the computers designing it were Analog. If we look at the improvements and technologies that we have made in that time span for computers, we should have seen a marked improvement in space travel.
The fact is that we don't and while this is sort of outside the scope of this hub, it should still be important to ask why?
Opinion Duck, I think the bible is simply for a 1 group belief system for control with nothing to do with defining a creator.
What are the pro's to a 1 belief system? I would like your thoughts on this.
James A Watkins says:
7 months ago
Well my distraught friend, I must say, "No!" and "No."
The Bible is written to make you think, not to keep you from thinking. Other than being off by 180 degrees—you were close.
The worst governments in the history of the world have been those without God. Take for example the Atheist governments of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. They are responsible for the deaths of 100 million human beings. Good God Amighty, Son. Take a look around.