Black Americans VS. White Americans Who Is More Rude
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As Any Race More Rude Then The Other
I honestly do not know where to begin with this but it certainly has weighed heavy on mind. After I came up without the thought of writing about it and then I let it sit for a few days. I almost deleted the topic and something told me to not hit delete button and discuss what has been festering in me for the last week. We do not know where some are gathering their information that the Black American is more rude then the White American or the Hispanic American for that matter. We believe that rudeness or hate has been in our own White race for generations. We have seen it first hand and have seen evil in action at its finest and not only are many of us shocked and dumb-founded, we honestly become disgusted with our own White race. We realize there is tension amongst races and we will not deny that there are a handful that make it worse for others, but to base your information on someone looking at you funny, or bumping into you and not apologizing as being rude or hateful just doesn't cut it with many of us .
When we have had the experience of someone from another race bumping into me, 9 out of 10 times they apologize or vice versa for that matter. We understand that there will be those of all races that are rude and unapologetic but we do not see rude or hate more strong in one race, then in another. We see reflections of concern as they are wondering what you think of them. Since when are we a superior race? We are not and if one is speaking of a pure white race, it does not exist. We have been mixed up for generation after generation. Somehow , somewhere down the line, somebody has something in them they wish not to discuss. Why should anyone want to be ashamed? Who is better then whom? In my eyes all are equal and one is not less then the other. We eat the same way, we tie our shoes, brush our teeth, and put our pants everyday just like the next man or woman. We work our butts off to get we get. If any of us should be ashamed it should be those of us who call ourselves white. Do you realize that there are more White Americans on the government system then Blacks? Granted there are more Blacks who have children then White , but there are also more white women having abortions then black. Which side should be on birth control? Both sides should be on birth control and any other race , who chooses to have unprotected sex. This however is a completely different topic, which I do not know if we are ready to discuss. When you write comments on HubPages, do we always know who is behind the keyboard? Does color exist on HubPages? We don't see it when we move from article to article but yet others claim one race is more rude then another. If we were to poll all of the comments and arguments we can bet that a majority of rudeness is in our own back door.
Here are my thoughts. There isn't a race that is not rude, or hateful in this world. Some will bite their tongue, hide in a closet and hang out with their buddies and use words that are so vulgar a bed bug wouldn't even want to hear it. But with a majority and we did say a majority of us who do get along with one another should express our opinions and why we believe what we state. As planting a positive seed instead of a negative one makes the World a much better place to live in and isn't it our generation who has been desiring change?
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I am sorry but I wouldn't know how to comment on this one, and if I really think about it, I have only ever seen a handful of colouredpeople in all my life. will return though ,caus I have the feeling this will be a good debate.
Don: You need to do it, as I had to get it off of my chest too!!
Hawkesdream: You are welcome to return and debate as that is what makes the world go around. :)
Whether or not someone/a group of people is/are rude or not depends more on their PERSONALITY much more so than their race. According to the great psychologist Sigmund Freud, there are 3 parts of the personality: the "id" (the primitive part of the personality which could often be saying "I want it and I want it now"), the superego which is the ultra-rational side of the personality which pushes back and potentially says "No you can't have it". Finally, the ego is the COMPLETELY rational part of the personality which tries to mediate between the id and the superego. Of course, most of us are not dominated by any one of these 3 parts of the personality, but we can probably think of one or more people who are indeed dominated by the id or the superego. Thumbs up
Rudeness comes in many races, and expressed in one, the human race.
I would have to say that rudeness sees no color. All races have all types of people that is why it is truly difficult to pigeon hole someone truly on race. Although there are many stereotypes about each race and I think that there will always be those stereotypes unfortunately.
fishinfreak: You hit it right on the nose thanks for commenting. :)
cobraski: Again you are correct but isn't it amazing how some say one is more then another?
TripletMom: You are also right it doesnt see any color and stereotyping is unfortunate .:)
Girl.....You know what I think about this. I have had to deal with rude people all ethnicities...Some I may say more than others and we won't get into that one right now! lol
But I think it all comes down to the way they are raised. Whether it be Park Avenue or Crenshaw Blvd. it all comes from the emotional environment at home. And the way they were treated as individuals by their parents and whether or not they were disciplined, taught basic manners or given LOVE...all in all there's a whole bunch of assholes out there in the world and they are all the same race to me...the human race!! LOL
BUT I LOVED YOUR ARTICLE>>>>>>MUCHO!!!
jj: They are there and it doesn't matter what color you are!! I am glad that you liked it. :)
AE, can't comment on what happens in America as have never been there. However, I have to say that in China I have to think that the Chinese are the rudest people I have met. But in saying that, I suppose you can't blame them as there are so many of them that you have to be rude to get what you want I guess. And, it's just how you get brought up. For us, staring at people is rude, going through someone's supermarket trolley to see what they've bought and showing their friends and laughing is rude. For them there's nothing wrong with it. Pushing you out the way so that they can get onto the train before you even though you'll arrive at the destination at the same time for us is rude. For them it's a way of life. Pushing someone into the road to steal their taxi they flagged down is rude, but for them it's normal. I think that rudeness is all a matter of perspective.
Cindy: That is nuts I don't know if I wish to ever visit there as it isn't in my character to be rude, bless your heart for handling it as well as you do. :)
You just get used to it AE, but I don't like it, so tend to rather stay home than go out!
Rudeness is not centered in race. Rudeness and racism can walk hand in hand. There are times when rudeness is percieved, because of cultural upbringing.
Most of the rudeness today can attribute itself to Lack of parenting lack of personal ethics lack of concern for your fellow Human!
Good conversation starter
Cindy: That would be a serious adjust me for me quite a big adjustment, but if they honestly didn't know what they were doing we actually could not fault them.:)
Like cindyvine suggests, its cultural at times. What may be rude to me, is normal to another. One example, I can give is my sister's estranged husband is from a small town in Syria, where its the custom to go into a store, check merchandise, and if the customer is not interested in buying the merchandise, they actually THROW it back into the bin without looking back to see if it fell on the floor or whatever; sis says, it was embarrassing seeing him do this here in America when they went to department stores. LOL!
As for me, I have a multicultural immediate family and friends from different races, so I dont' "see" color, and all are pretty decent folks by Western starndads; it all depends too, on how one is raised as JRubio wisely pointed out.
Good hub!
VioletSun, I love the fact that we are all so unique and some are more cultural then others, diversity is the key to all of us and everybody has an interesting quarkiness about themselves, I am so glad that you stopped by.:)
I think it's a matter of perspective. Black americans may appear to have more rudeness than their white counterparts because black americans have a tendency to not hold their feelings back whenever they feel mistreated or judged improperly. Black americans are focussed on fairness, equality and holding people accountable for their actions, particularly when it comes to white americans. White americans on the other hand hold their anger inside and strive to be more polite and non confrontational under the same cirsumstances. Their focus is more geared towards social, and intellectual status and the outcome is more likely to be retaliatory. White on white rudeness, although carefully concealed, is much greater than black on black rudness - while black on white rudness is often times excessive for reason mentioned above. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule.
Overall, I have witnessed both sides at like fools, in most cases for no reason at all!!
I have no scientific data to support my comment and therefore it it strictly my opniion from observation.
Great hub - thanks for sharing.
Everyone is waaay too nice to express the real truth behind their own rudeness. Yes, we are all rude in some way that we may not notice. People these days, would get offended over something stupid and blame it on the persons race and background.
I dedicate this song for you from Michael Jackson-It doesn't matter if you're black or white ;)
jxb7076: You answered so eloquently and that is what I admire about you, I thank you for your comment and your opinion always.
May: I love that song and we can all be rude but we shouldn't to each other as I blood runs the same color. Thank you for the link.:)
I live in northern Minnesota and my entire school is white except for a few adopted kids, (dont laugh, I'm serious) I dont even see a difference, I agree it's cultural, a few of my friends visited relatives in Europe and DAMN were their kids rude, I see it in exchange students as well.
I just want to put this out there
If you never want to see a minority again go to the top part of Minnesota
How can anyone generalise behaviour by race? Unfortunately we live in a world of stereotypes and there are so many out there who believe them!
Rudeness is a defense mechanism black or white, yellow or brown.
It started a long time ago and is entwined in the genetic finger print we are creating every day.
I am kinder to those who treat me the worst as it may be the only kindness they ever get to see in their whole life. Yes they may just be jerks but look at them as a children that doesn't know any different than what they've been shown. Would we rip a strip of a child who was rude to us or look into there eyes and ask ourselves what pain are you going through that caused you to act that way.
Free will was supposed to let us see the way we CAN be if we are prepared to become what we want first. It’s not easy but if we want to change the genetic fingerprint that gets uglier with every misunderstood gesture. What will we look like in 1000 years from now.
The enemy is pain and pain can be inflicted as a response to pain acting out.
Hurt people hurt people.
Love starts with you looking for good in even the worst of us.
You may never get to experience true love but that doesn’t mean you can’t let someone less worthy experience it and it will be a gift you give to many generations to come.
May I remind everyone that one man once looked down at a bunch of pitiful blacks and whites who had nailed him to a chunk of wood and taunted him until he was dead.
He looked down and said; "Forgive them, for they know not what they do". God blessed his soul.
Happy Easter everyone.
White Man67000: You are certainly far and few in between and it is great that your family has raised you to see people as people and not the color of their skin, or to even be judgemental for that reason.
gamegirl: I am going to watch it as soon as I am done commenting and thanks for sharing it.
Kitchen_Witch , I couldn't agree with you more as it is about parenting as well.
Feline: That is why I wrote the article as there seems to be that type of generalization and it didn't sit well with me.
Zooloot: That is Jesus and I am almost done watching the Ten Commandments which I do every year as it is apart of our tradition. It was hard to write this article but after reading it over and over on HP and the Internet it drove me nuts. Happy Easter!!
I loved the Hub Thanks. You were right to write it and it must have been hard to put yourself on the line.
But there really is no line :)
What is going on will go on and the only one we can truly change is ourselves. But I do think that's all we were ever meant to change. One day at a time.
I don't believe there is a line either but as well know someone may think there is..lololol I like your after thought as that is certainly the truth. We must continue to work and change ourselves and all will fall into place. :)
I've met rude people of all races.....and many kind ones also....I count the smiles and try to forget the frowns. Thanks AE....good hub! :)
Tom: That is a great way to look at it!!:)
I have a bit of a different view..there are no races...why a race. That is so absurd to me. we are all human of course...we just have different views, ideas and crap. the only races are those bound by the barriers of the closed mind. quote me there.
race or color is skin deep. it has nothing to do with what's inside. behavior and attitude do vary but it's more due to cultural differences and geographical divide than anything else :D
Pest: Quite deep and very truthful and that is a grand question...
First off let me say - Wonderful Hub! Now let me get to my perspective... I am a firm believer in you reap what you sow. If you are rude and negative towards people, you will get that in return. All my life I have had to deal with rude, ignorant, and well just plain stupid people but in return from me all they get is a smile and maybe even a thanks! It throws them off kilter! It's funny!! I throw some positiveness at them and they freak out like they have never seen it before! My little dose of sunshine in their otherwise bleak and miserable life! If a person is truely rude, they are not happy with someone or something or EVERYTHING! I do my best to give them a glimmer of happiness... As far as the whole "american" thing - this whole "politically correct" stuff is for the birds!! There is only one race - that's the human race! The are only Americans... they aren't white or black or anything else! Rudeness has nothing to do with what race, gender, sexual preference, or any other thing then people being negative! Lighten up, people - smile some! Even if you have to do it in pretend! Soon enough it will become the real thing and you'll be amazed at where your life has gone! :D It doesn't matter if your Aunt Matilda twice removed passed on when you were 16 and your bitter about it! Life is what you make of it, so make lemonade!
OK I'm getting off my lil soapbox now... Just remember to smile at least 3 times a day! And giggle at least once! You'll feel better about life! And if you smile at a rude person (no matter how dense you look!), you might just get one back! :)
AE it is really all relative. Your rude may not be my rude and vice/versa.
Here in Australia we hear complaints of the brash American Tourist, no mention of color.
In other countries we hear of the rude Aussie Okker, no mention of color?
Cris A : I am in agreeance with you :)
Tisher: Smiling is a great thing and laughter as well is the best medicine. :)
agvulpes: Isn't it nuts ? No matter where we go somebody always has to be negative about someone or a culture. Why can't we all get along. :)
AE , my sentiments exactly!
The race that is most rude is the " Human Race"
I am half white and half mexican, I can't decide which half is the rudest
I am one of the most opinionated, rude bastards of all time...I will embarrass the shit out of you if you have it coming. All white here, at least my momma swears it. My dad has blamed the Mexicans down the road for my existence.
I'm adopting you as mexican now Pest
In my life, I don't see rudeness or kindness as racially based. Aside from a few exceptions, I'm not even certain if any one person is always rude or always kind. It likely has more to do with immediate circumstances, such as tension, than anything else.
I do want to put a slice into the "superiority" thought, though. There is a difference between feeling superior and feeling dominant. Without trying to ruffle feathers, it is my observation that generally females are superior and males are dominant. Also, the black race is superior and the white race is dominant. This doesn't hold true universally, but is offered only to look at the superiority issue with another twist.
We hear of school tests being racially biased against blacks. My experience from high school was the black kids who did their work seemed to have "white genetics," while the white kids who goofed off seemed to have "black genetics." In the end, it is the effort we put forth regardless of our genetic heritage.
wow a race that I can call home... Ever see the "Racial Draft" on Dave Chapelle show? Flippin funny crap...A drat just like the NFL draft.
interesting article. my experiences alone in regards to race relations are not all good, and not all bad either. I feel that the problem is education, a lack of knowledge of factual information is the problem. Many people are educated via 'stereotypical' information. Playing the race issue, blaming a group of people because of ill representation of a few is the problem. This will not resolve itself easily. I hope, when the world is more globally diverse, it maybe eliminate the minor concerns or prejudices of skin colours, and focus on what is detrimental to all humankind. I mean really, how long will it be before humankind, as a species, become extinct? Water & air pollution, the human population explosion, food shortages, etc. I feel that this is a more important concern...I just do not understand why many of us cannot focus on just that. Because, this will directly affect each nationality...not a few, not some, but all.
Pest- I saw that one many times and I'll watch it again, but I think the chinese always made out with the best of the draft
Dave is a riot! Tiger Woods was drafted by the Black delegation. Watch the link i posted... here again.
Dave plays a great white man..."there's a white man talking up here!" LOL!
Sandman,
Pest
GT
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Am I Dead Yet
AgVulpes: I sincerely appreciate the positive opinons and thoughts it goes to show that there are great people in this world and we are all definitely some of them!!! :)
GT: I believe they still do sell half and half at the grocery store....lolololol :)
There is enough poop that goes on in my own home. Why drag that stuff out into the street?
Pest: That is so true if only many others would think the same.:)
Ms. Evans,
You are so right. Rudeness is not based on nationality. In my eyes, there is only one race and that is the human race. Again, rudeness is spread throughout every culture and as you stated, it only take a handful of people to make it rudeness stand out among many. Keeping writing about important issues and continue to educate.
God Bless You and Much Success
God I love your work your like my thoughts written, people are people. God i love you care about human life you area great souls thanks for letting me read about a person who really sees the holy human truth we are all of god and Jesus
God bless mike
April: Thank you for reading and we are happy that you are here. :)
TheVoice: You are so welocme and I am glad that it was an enlightment many times we have to listen to what he tells us to do. :)
I don't think rudeness comes to my mind about racism for me. I see it measured as a "who is better than thou attitude" and much more on the side of which religion you belong to or your social class.
ocbill: That is a serious thought , and I thank you for taking the time to comment.:)
To answer your question, "does color existon HPs"? I have to say yes. Black and white. Page is white, text is black. LOL
Seriously, I'm not sure it's a racething either. It's an upbringing issue, based on the standards of society. Some miss out on this upbringing, and either don't know what todo, how to behave, or are too self absorbed to see others.
The Golden Rule should apply. Not sure how many know it though. :D
Not much I can say that has,nt been said here already . I think we can all agree that assholes come In all shapes sizes and races no ethnic heritage Is exempt . Besides It gave me an exscuse to say Hi to everybody ! Hi AEvans !
tony- charger fans wish they were as rude and tough as Raider fans
The fans are tougher than the team !
I agree, we are beer powered!
Does that make it "beer-pressure"? LOL
aka-dj: You are funny and I don't know how many know either..lol ::::)
tony0724: Well there you are , popping in from time to time and I see you and GT have been talking about raiders and beer? Who raids beer? lololo thanks for stopping by and I am glad to see you here. :)
GT: Beer powered? Now that is a great idea for solar energy and powered by GT..lololol :):D
great argument going on here, huhhh!!
acco: I don't know if it is really an argument but the comments are certainly positive.:)
Aren’t you glad that you didn’t delete? I am. My parents taught me that it isn’t what color you are, it is what caliber you are. Growing up, I invited one of my black classmates to come play at my house. He shocked me after we had played awhile by saying, you are not scary. I asked him what he meant. He said “black folks is scared of the white folks”. Later in life, I noticed that many “white folks” were scared of black folks. This probably has a lot to do with the problem. Nice hub. It obviously stirred up lots of feelings, and got folks talking. J
Paper Moon: I am glad that I didn't delete and I am certainly happy that people are discussing it, as it really does annoy me and comments from others is like a breath of fresh air. :)
Rudeness knows no color only personality. Anyone can be rude.
deestew: You are absolutely correct and again the point has been proven and anyone can be rude I agree 110% .:)
Great hub! Glad you decided to post it! I agree with Cobraski
"Rudeness comes in many races, and expressed in one, the human race."
I guess if we want to break it down to who is ruder, it wouldn't be a minority; that's if you talk in terms of numbers. But, really, who is to judge? Not me.
I was in Wal-Mart a short time ago with my son and his friend, who is white. One of their friends, a white lady, noticed the kid. First, she looked at me like "ugh." Then she said to the kid, "Where is your mom?" like she was concerned. I spoke to her and said hi, but she ignored me. I wanted to knock the bleep out of her! Before she left she looked at me again like she had lost her mind. It was unreal. I was like wow...seriously...it's 2009... I had to say a few prayers to calm me down.
One of my mixed friends went to get her wedding ring cleaned. Her son's father is white/spanish and she is black/white. Her son looks full white. The person who cleaned her ring asked her if she was the nanny. My friend was hot!
SingleMama: I would be upset to if someone asked one of my friends if they were a nanny. The human race in general is very rude. :)
I'm liking this hub and I agree. I would say that there is equal biasism everywhere. Who's more rude? Well I guess I won't know personally until I'm personally insulted.....1
What appears to be most significant in determining rudeness, and just what is actually considered good etiquette, the boundaries are drawn the deepest along socioeconomic lines. This in no way infers that the rich are more civil, and the truth is that behavior has changed along these lines over this nation's history.
Regardless, the only reason why blacks are likely being considered rude is because there is a much higher percentage of them who are being manipulated by the current adulation of a "gangsta" image. And no matter how much Robert Plant, Steven Tyler or David Lee Roth go around singing about their penis and sexual exploits, you've never heard them ranting about "biotches and Ho's" or killing cops...or really hurting or killing...or (as many rappers seem to sing) raping...anyone. Ice T wrote a song about sodomy on a ten year old. Really now.
As far as statistics go, they are typically skewed. Moreover, when one is quoting government programs, one must indelibly consider that there are 10 times more white senior citizens alive which were not gunned down in street gangs, or robberies that were incredibly more prolific in the black community during much of this nation's unconscionable abuse of them. As well, over 85% of the black families on welfare are only headed by a mother, therefore, there is one less person in each family on the roll...the father. Over 80% of ALL black mothers are single. If that is not rude, then I certainly don't know what is.
Then one must consider the geographical locations no less than 60% if Black people CHOOSE to live in. The inner cities and ghettos which provide the most cover for criminal activity. When so many blacks have been heard saying "why I goin git a job when I kin jes rob mofo's", one begins to take a slightly alternate stance on the subject.
One may insist I am a racist, however I grew up in them ghetto's, and had to learn my lessons well. I also have been doing research from the gutter to the penthouse, and the truth is that while rude is everywhere, its variations make it one hell of an almost indicernable racial indicator.
Wow, I am speechless and I appreciate your insight. :)
I think it depends on what part of the country you are from.
flread45: That is also a great answer as rude doesn't have a color it is the people and certain parts of the country appear to be more rude then others. :)
Hello AEvans, I was attempting to send you a message and say that I posted a more convivial assessment of my position on American Women, but I couldn't see how, thus posting it here. Maybe this new article will be more to your liking. It is called "The American Woman: A Societal Catalyst", in case you want to check it out.
urimidden: I will be happy to read it and thank you for posting it.:)
Thought provoking hub AE. I think JJrubio also made a good point, it is not only race, but rudeness can come from all social classes to. Money seems to have no effect on whether someone has good manners or not. Thanks for another great hub AE.
Whikat: You are so welcome!!! I agree that all of you are on the same page.
Rudeness may be classified according to culture. As the writer who described the Chinese. to them they are not rude they are just making sure they are not left behind, or that they get to where they are going on time. The American white feels he has a right to certain things and may be rude if he thinks he is not number one.The American black feels he is expected to take second place and resents it.Here you have if people are basically rude because of selfishness,and when they feel threatned or about to lose face.
Gosh im sorry if this hub is old ( but to me its new) but decided to comment anyway.
You show courage putting your thoughts to paper. I am a New Zealander living in the States at the moment and its been interesting to observe different cultures and even how I am recieved ( once they hear my accent) I have to say both cultures are friendly to me or reserved equally. I guess it does have other factors to consider to as Cindyvine mentioned like perception and it helps if I check first with hubby ( hes American) of something if Im not sure.(lol) ...........one lil thing that annoys me though is people walking into me , why do I have to be the one that always moves aside...ok thats off my chest lol lol
Eaglekiwi: You are a kind New Zealander and thank you for expressing that I show courage as sometimes it is complicated when you have to write on a topic so I guess it is courage to get through it. You are great and I do hope that you are enjoying the United States.:)
now complicated I do know about because where I come from we have the native nz'der called Maoris and Non-Maori although to be honest the races are very integrated now. I proudly walk with both. My dad was Maori ( ancestors coming from Hawaii) and my mums ancestors from Scotland and England.How-ever since England landed ( 1800's) there has been wars ,treaties ,finally peace ( much like the Native American in the States) but today they still have disputes that flare up and among everyday people mild tensions sometimes spring up. So relevant to your hub ,rudeness is universal and perhaps often blamed for other behaviours.
Reminder to all rudes!
There's an old saying that goes, "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all."
speedtraining: I like that !!! :)
I have been saying that since freakin' kindergarten...good one Speed Training!!
Lamatadora: My little sis kindegarten??? lololo it is a good one isn't it?:)
I got 2 points...Thanks! LOL
I like this one - glad that you decided to write about it. good stuff and great comments
New Life: There you are , and thank you for commenting interesting I was thinking about you today.:)
It's difficult talking about racial issues. At any rate, rude is rude, no matter what . . . .
Kosmo: I agree.:)
I wonder if there was a particular event so inflammatory...so aggravating to you personally AEvans that you would choose to fashion the topic of this article thusly: Black Americans VS. White Americans, Who Is More Rude/Ruder? Such a question can only inflame the passions. Sadly, too many responses were heavily nuanced by self-censorship, leaving much to be desired. To be fair, I would have to say that your question wasn’t actually fair to white people when you think about it. The subject matter is far too ambiguous to adequately tackle in a few short sentences so what precisely were you aiming for?
In this politically correct culture of ours, in which so few people ever really invest time gaining an intimate appreciation for other ethnic groups (including blacks by the way – although to a lesser extent), whites cannot afford to be as sincere for it is at the cost of white privilege. This privilege bears a shameful legacy of exploiting minority groups the world over; even now, the legacy continues. Whites today are not personally responsible for what their ancestors did ages ago obviously, but they benefit from it. They will turn collectively but unwittingly perpetuate the same system such that, generations from now, their offspring will be saying the same things about them. It’s a vicious cycle, but it doesn’t have to be. In a capitalist society where virtually every aspect of our humanity from our lips to our ass can be counted as a commodity, white skin is a privilege built upon the legacy of exploitation & slavery of blacks yes, but of Asians, Indians, Latinos, oh and poor whites. Change this, and racism ceases to be so big a problem. The real question is if whites could change this by completely eradicating the myth of white superiority right now today once and for all…would they want to?
According to the implicit tenets of capitalism, you don’t give up such advantages because after all, one man’s gain is another man’s loss. It's about competition. That’s why the rich prefer to segregate themselves, not because they adamantly hate poor folks (ok some honestly do), but because they don’t really want things to change…not really. My mom use to tell me not to play with the food. Poor and middle class people are the food for these guys. Realize that for someone to earn a whole lot, many more must earn next to nothing. Incidentally, the above topic serves only to generate a momentary buzz. If rudeness is a real concern for anyone, then why not lobby for learning institutions to teach etiquette classes, which is probably a good idea anyway but...
theleftflank: Who said that the topic had to be fair? I am white and it is only fair game to me to write about such topic from my own perspective. Black people tend to be more tolerant of us then we do of them which is highly unnecessary. What exactly do you mean when you say,
"whites cannot afford to be as sincere for it is at the cost of white privilege. This privilege bears a shameful legacy of exploiting minority groups the world over; even now, the legacy continues. Whites today are not personally responsible for what their ancestors did ages ago obviously, but they benefit from it.
What is it that we exactly benefit from? Have you ever studied the true meaning of the color of one's skin? Because our skin is lighter certainly does not mean that we are better and the discussion was about who/whom is more rude? We are certainly not a superior race and the Bible has taught me that we are one would you not agree? So my question to you is, " Do you believe we are better then another race? Nothing personally has happened to me I simply cannot stand stupidity and ignorance and this was completely written based on my own perception of course I am certainly entitled to that. :)
Last I checked, these forums were supposed to engender participation from a variety of perspectives. Anyway, when I mentioned that your topic itself wasn't fair to white people, it was a mere observation. Perhaps, you should go back and re-read some of the vague statements white people commonly feel compelled to leave. It can be a difficult thing for them to explain themselves without appearing to be racist. This is why they spend so much time saying: I have mixed family members, My dad taught me not to see color, I voted for Obama, etc,. They shouldn't have to but doing so somehow helps to sanitize their shared legacy of ~ sigh ~ white supremacy.
I'm glad for you that your religion has enlightened you such that you actually believe black and brown folk are not sub-human, but this does not concern me. We are not talking about religion. Do ya get that? What does concern me, however, is when you ask me: What is it that we exactly benefit from? i.e. "white privilege" then I am compelled to confess my complete and utter shock. I am simply aghast right now! In truth, I have no more appetite for engaging this topic with you presently. I will, however, refer you to the following link below since my words are so confusing.
theleftplank: I will certainly go back and read and I also understand your words when you say " white privilege" but I will also check out the link. :)
Hey J,
We have agreed on many things; as opionated as I am, here goes.
1- Rudeness = equality. Anyone can choose to be as rude or not to be rude. Different cultures have their own exentricities, this may be taken to be rude by others.
2- You write as if whites should feel guilty, why? If I'm reading this correctly,; you may suffer from "white guilt."
My suggestion, stop it! Just be the good person you are, and don't worry about it.
3- Did you grow up in an all white area?
4- Of course there are more white people in power positions, there are more whites by population, and all others are finding a way to enter the top. It takes education and time. It cannot take place in ten or twenty years.
I don't care if you believe in Eugenics or Euthenics, the time factor is necessary.
Still you have written a piece that is thought provoking.
Harvey: I find your comment thoughtful and respectful I believe everyone's thoughts and opinions count. :)
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Don Simkovich says:
8 months ago
My wife is a nurse practitioner at a low income children's clinic in northwest Pasadena and she has seen plenty of people who work the system white and black. For the past two years, I've been meaning to write an article or series of articles on a problem much more serious than racism . . . and I have a multi-ethnic family. Unfortunately, rudeness, lack of rudeness and racism are not measured scientifcally nor dealt with objectively. And often progress isn't measured nor applauded. Okay, one more reason I need to write my article and finally get it off my mind!