Black Guys with White Girls
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BIRACIAL CHILDREN
What is going on with all the black guys with white girls? Going through the airport the other day I was struck by the number of white women with biracial children. I cannot remember the last time I saw a black woman with a biracial child in tow. As I rode on the airplane I started thinking about the countless many times I have seen blond, blue eyed girls with black guys in restaurants or malls in the past five years. And how rare it is to see a black woman with a white guy.
WHITE WOMEN WITH BLACK MEN
I began to wonder why this is so. But I can't say I know the answer. Perhaps my readers do?
Back in my home town I know a number of young white women with several half-black babies from different fathers, none of whom they married or have a relationship with now. I do not know a single white man with a half-black child.
CELEBRITIES WITH BLACK FATHERS
When I read about celebrities who are bi-racial such as President Obama, Alicia Keys, Derek Jeter, Halle Berry, Jason Kidd, Mariah Carey, Mario Van Peebles, Rick Fox or Vin Diesel—they all have black fathers and white mothers. I am not saying there are not exceptions. Of course there are. But the numbers with black mothers seem miniscule.
BIRACIAL CELEBRITY PHOTOGRAPHS
When I see someone on the news such as the Kobe Bryant scandal, the Steve McNair death story, the OJ Simpson trial; it usually seems to have a white girl in it. I do not recall ever seeing such a story with a white guy and black girl.
When I see photographs of black athletes out on the town, many have a white girl on their arm. I do not recall ever once seeing a photograph of a white athlete out on the town with a black girl. I have seen dozens of famous black men with white wives but I only know of three famous black women married to white men.
WHAT'S GOING ON?
I did an internet search and all I came up with was a theory that black guys are "sticking it to the man by screwing his daughters" and white girls are "rebelling against their parents." I do recall reading a book about the sixties in which it described Radical Liberal women felt compelled, and in some cases challenged, to have sex with black men to prove they weren't prejudiced. I remember one of my daughters told me that interracial dating was discussed in school and her teacher said, "If your parents don't want you dating black guys, they are just backward ignorant bigots." When I was younger some of my black friends used to ask me to hook them up with white girls. They seemed obsessed by it. They were not looking for a wife, mind you. They just wanted to have sex with white girls. And were not shy telling me about it.
SUMMARY
Maybe this is a topic about which we are not supposed to wonder. Surely I am not the only one who has noticed that it seems to go one way at least 90% of the time. If it is simply normal activity after integration, where are the all the white guy/black girl couples one would expect to see out on the town? There seems to be something else going on.
I have previously published Hubs entitled Wives and Daughters; The Sexual Revolution; and Why I love Women.
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queitnessandtrust— Thank you for being my first visitor. I am on a bit of a spree, yes. I think I am about to begin a "day job" so I have some things I want to get out there before my time to write is constricted.
I think maybe its just a matter of personal choice. I struggle to understand where exactly God said thou shall not sleep with the girl of a different color. I have dated women of several different skin colors and ethnicity and found them all to be caring, loving people, who wanted the same thing, to be loved respected and treated well. I have heard several different reasons given from black friends as to why they prefer white girls but I will not engage in a broad generalization of racial trends and hide it behind the name of religion or the bible, that's just sad, and cowardly. As to the biracial kids, should these mothers be ashamed and hide their children, or better yet abort them before hand all in the name of racial purity? Many of our religious forefathers were not white and kept company with many different skin tones and races. This line of conversation is a slippery slope to be sure.
Scott.Life— I naturally agree with you that it is a personal choice. I agree, too, that most people around the world and in America do want the same basic things. Of course, the white mothers should not abort them. God forbid! (As Paul would say.) I apologize if this conversation is inappropriate. My intent is not to inflame or disappoint. I am simply curious. Thank you for chiming in.
I have been asking myself the same thing. I am originally from NJ and moved to GA in 2000. I went to the Walmart one night, when I just arrived here, with my mother (it was about 11:30pm) and saw nothing but white women and their bi-racial children. I asked my mother why there was such a concentration of white women with black/white children, she replied that most do not go out when the "Church people go during the day" because they want to be spared the looks and ridicule that most have to endure. Now mind you, I am from NJ and to me people are people where ever you go. I was taught not to see color or race. So, needless to say, I was very saddened by my mothers candid honesty. I can not tell you why this is occurring. However, I do think that is sad that the people who should be embracing these women and children are condemning them. Personally, my first marriage was to an Egyptian. My eldest daughter is part Egyptian and Polish. She is light olive complected with beautiful Brown curly hair and Bright amber eyes, and I even got treated badly down here! Everyone thought she was Mexican! The reason I married him is because he converted to Christianity and I was Polish Catholic and he was Egyptian Orthodox. However, I had to divorce him when he reverted back to Islam. We then became unequally yoked. He was torn between his strong family ties or his daughter and I. He just could not keep up the farce, and I could not keep pretending it would or could work anymore. So when Danni was 6 months old we separated and I moved to GA. Then he totally lost his way, yet again, and abandoned us. So, I divorced him by proxy. I still have no idea where he is. Therefore, speaking from experience, I can truly say that marriage is tough enough to endure with someone from your like background and culture. However, when you marry outside of your race or culture you are adding on an entire layer that will be very hard and challenging to overcome. Some make it, and some do not! BTW, I never lived with my Egyptian Husband or even kissed him till our wedding Day/Night. (that respect was what I loved about him the most) Like my grandmother always taught me, "Do not ever live or lie with a man out of wedlock, cause if he can have you, he will no longer want you!" So True!!!!
Writing fever James?
Anyway, what you are saying is not true in my city. New York is probably one of the most interracial cities in the world, and I see every day the combination you mention as rare.
Lots of african/american-oriental too.
I would like to remember that we are all black and all cousins. This has been proved and genetically traced to the whole world. That we became paler or redder or whatever due to millenia of different environments is quite insignificant. But we are all relatives, literally!
And it has to be true, because there are no worse fights than among family members. :-)
cluense— WOW! That is quite a story. Thank you for adding this valuable personal information to this thread.
Interesting observation leaves one to think of many reasons Not sure what the answer is Brother.
Congrates on the "Day Job"...be praying that all works out well and that you are still able to get in some writting time.
Blessings
rosariomontenegro— Yes! I am on a roll. :D
You are right. We are all descended from common ancestors. The assertion that Adam and Eve were black is high speculation. More likely, they looked like Jews.
"Quill"— Thank you, brother. I will be doing consulting for awhile it seems. And that's fine because I surely know a lot about aviation by now.
The reason God said not to marry out of our race was because to keep each race pure. The reasons men give me is being with a white girl is like winning a trophy. It's the color of the skin..white seems to be the ultimate in color. While is like the sun..it attracts.
Women like to be with black men because there is something exotic about them and sorry white guys..but black men in the sack are the best. Their skin is like silk and see how the black men dance..well use your imagination. lol...
Hey James, interesting hub indeed. First I wanted to comment on you not knowing any white guys with interacial children. Well you don't really know me but we are fans of each other so I don't know if that qualifies or not. But I have 3 mulado children from my ex-wife an african american woman. So there you go.
Okay now that you know that I want to tell you about something strange my wife and I noticed while married. We knew several interracial couples from both sides. Black guy, white girl or white guy black girl. I think we knew so many because you naturally tend to attract to people with common interests and lifestyles. Anyway what we noticed and this is almost across the board without exception is that all mixed couples experience racism. That's a given but what was interesting is that the black guy/white girl, experienced the majority of racism from white people, but although they did experience problems with some black racist it was few and far between. It was exactly the opposite with white guy/black girl relationships. They (we) experienced the greater majority of racism from black people.
Our theory is that people tend to be the most protective of their peoples women. What do you think?
Oh and I wanted to add for those that think interacial marriage is ungodly they should read Numbers 12 and see what happened to Moses brother and sister when they had a problem with his interacial marriage. God never forbid people from marrying outside of race. Outside of religion He did forbid. The Jews could only marry Jews. That is by faith. Ruth an ancestor of Jesus for example was not born Jewish but was converted. To Naomi "Your God will be my God and your people my people." So she was a Jew and therefore Boaz did not sin by marrying someone who was obviously not of his race but definetely a Jew.
My ex-wife and I had a beautiful life together until I turned my back on God and backslid. Our race was never an issue but my faith (or lack thereof) brought us out of union. My greatest regret in life.
James, this hub will be like sticking your hand into a box of spiders....lol, im going to sit back a spell, read the comments that come in and smile....
It's a matter of diversifying no doubt amd I think the outcome would be great like half black half white children with blue eyes! After all, I think it's a kind of personal freedom and taste. Nicely discussed James.
This was all an eye opener and interesting. Your hub as well as all the comments. But I hate to say, James, it is again your are this and I am that, in other word racism. Personally I had enough of it. It is the person that matters and the manners, especially manners, respect and that is all there is.
I know you only asked for interest sake but no matter how sensitive you write it, it still stirs it up at the end.
We don't get asked how we want to be born. Also it is scientifically proven that all humans are from Africa.
As to the answer of your question, I think DancingRedFeathere gave a very good answer which makes sense
As to 'cluense' comment which made my blood boil again. Isn't it typical of the so called rightous and self-rightous, godfearing people that these women and even more their children can't show their faces. Oh those Churches why don't they live by the word instead shouting about it and do the opposite.
Ah, delicately crossed, like a mine field. It has made me smile, thank you James.
As for you others who speak judgment in the name of my Father, I dare say "Produce the Scripture" that you refer!
1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God.
James,
You have posed an interesting question. I dont proport to know the answer. I can remember hearing black women griping about this very phemenoma.
It may be related to the same phemenoma that causes hair straightening. I have heard many black celebrities talk about the old days when lighter skinned blacks were considered more desirable in the black community.
Multi racial does not trouble me. To each his own choice.
DancingRedFeather— WOW! You certainly illuminated the discussion. Your comments are very interesting. Thank you for reading and leaving your words here.
Jack West— It is great to hear from you, friend. You have brought us the other side of the story. I see your point about a group of people protecting their womenfolk. That is how a race or any ethnic group perpetuates itself—keeps its bloodline going. For instance, I always hear that Jewish people strongly encourage their young to marry other Jewish people. I am old enough to remember when brothers were very protective of their sisters. That seems to have gone by the boards in this country.
I am saddened to hear of the circumstances by which your marriage unraveled. I'll pray for your comfort. Thank you for sharing your story here. I appreciate you for it.
Glen G— So you think this is dangerous territory? I still can't get over Dancing Feathers comments above. :-) We'll have to see what happens. Thanks for coming by.
shamelabboush— I must say the folks in the photos on this page are largely very attractive people. But of course, they are famous. Maybe there are ugly mulattos, too. Personal freedoms have certainly widened in this country. We'll see if this ends up being good for our society in the long run. Thanks for your comments. I appreciate you coming by.
James, I think you need to get out more ;\
Hello, hello,— I hope I didn't upset you by wondering aloud about this phenomena. I certainly see an unbalance. I mean, if this goes on or grows even more out of proportion, what will happen to black women? Will they just live alone?
I do appreciate your remarks. I can tell they are from the heart. Hopefully, we can discuss issues of race without practicing racism.
50 Caliber— You are welcome. Thank you for reading and watching me "cross the mine field."
Tom Whitworth— I also used to hear grumbling from black women about this issue but I haven't heard it in a while now. I thank you for coming by and adding to the discussion.
ethel smith— Well said, dear. I appreciate your comment.
Paraglider— LOL
OK. I'll go out and scout around and see what I can see. Thanks for the tip, compadre.
Good Lord! Is this even an issue? Who has any right to question or even wonder about whom I marry? Speculating like this is demeaning to the people involved. They made their choices just as you did.
Love and peace
Tony
tonymac04— I certainly did not mean to demean. I am not talking about marriage so much—I don't see much of that. I just see breeding without marriage mostly.
I am talking about an obvious imbalance. That's all. Obviously, something sociological or psychological is going on besides basic romance or it wouldn't be so lopsided. No?
We are all human beings - race shouldn't matter at all. I agree with Ethel - to each his own.
Hahaha.Interesting hub.I think white guys do not have the courage to date black girls.
Interesting hub to say the least. I'm an exception, I guess. My husband is white and I’m black and we have two boys. I have to agree we are a rare sight. Growing up a lot of the black guys I was interested in were courting white/latino girls, so I guess when I went to college and met my future husband there was really no hesitation, but it was a bit difficult for my family to accept him. His family had a biracial twist already, so they were very accepting. We did/do get some looks most good some bad. Great work as usual James.
It used to be that a white woman on the arms of a black man was prestigious and that he had 'stepped up'. They would then be seen as having 'scored' with whitie. While the white girl was usually rebelling, she would be out to prove that she was not prejudice. I counseled a friend for two years while she was in and out of a relationship, she told me that 'he could talk her into anything', and he did. She dropped out of school, had a baby, and eventually ended up on welfare. I have not seen her in many, many years, I was sad for her then, and my disapproval of her lifestyle tore our friendship apart. That was then, it is more accepted in society now.
James! Brace yourself for this one ; When I was in college I knew white girls who only slept with black men. They used to say to me "Once you go black, you never go back." They always said that black men were better in bed. Period. AND they are "smooth" lovers. Now black guys in college knew this so it just helped their egos, especially the athletes who were competitive against the white athletes.
I myself have never been with a black man and I'm not prejudice. I was just never attracted to them in that way. Sex was never enough for me ; and the way girls spoke about it sounded "thrilling!!" The girls who slept with black men always talked about the "size" of the man's %^&*. NOW, this would explain why black women did not go for a white man!!! ha Maybe the three famous white guys married to black chicks have BIG YOU KNOW....$%^&!!! 's ha ha ha ha
Hope this made you giggle. I really enjoy your hubs! Since your hub was so "honest" I wanted to give you an honest comment that actually came from white women's mouths! G
suziecat7— We are certainly that. I do appreciate you coming by and leaving your opinion.
NZUNG SERAPHINE— So that's it!? A lack of courage! LOL!! That's a great response. Thanks and welcome to the Hub Pages Community. Anybody that can make me laugh is more than welcome here.
spiderpam— Well, see. There we go. The other side of the equation comes in. Interesting that your family was harder to deal with. Someone above said it is the female side of the family that sometimes take offense. That is fascinating in and of itself. Thank you for adding a lot to this thread and for your kind compliment. :)
jiberish— I appreciate your remarks. They ring true. I had a fella tell me that it was all about getting back at "Massa." Whoever that is. Thank you for posting. It is always a pleasure to hear from you.
GPAGE— Hello my friend! OK. I'm braced . . .
I see. Black women don't go for white men because they are too little. hmmm . . . So size matters? I wear a size 13 shoe, if that helps. :D
I was thinking of David Bowie, Robert DiNero and Oprah's man, whatever his name is. I'm glad you enjoy my Hubs. This one is a bit off track but it was on my mind so there it is. Thank you for your witty words.
Maybe things are not as lopsided as they appear :-). Depends on where you are looking. I date the opposite race and never have to look for a date. As far as that size matters thing, not true....size 13 shoe...ummmmm, now what's your phone number? :-)..
All I can say is, my husband is white! I have been married to him for 13 years. My first husband was black and I was married to him for 18 years! Oh did I just tell my age? lol, lol, lol, I don't know why people choose to get involved with the opposite race, all I know is God gave me my second husband which has been a blessing to me! Not saying my first husband which was black I didn't love but the road we went down was not of God and my second marriage is with God. One day my husband told me that when we travel we still have to be careful because there are still people out there who don't accept mix marriages. What ashame. Me and my husband are both Pastors and Dr.s that love each other and try to do good for others. We don't bother anyone. We laughed one day and said, "They better watch who they are messing with, God says not to touch His anointed ones!!! lol, lol, lol. We haven't in 13 years had any problems! Blessings.
GRivers— LOL! Thanks for your comments. I appreciate you coming by with your witty self.
drpastorcarlotta— Well, how about that! Apparently there are a lot more who go the other way than I have noticed out in public. Very interesting.
You came dangerously close to revealing your age, yes. :)
God Bless You and your husband. I appreciate you sharing your beautiful story here. It is always uplifting to read your words, pastor doctor.
. We live in a time where morals have gone out the window. I am with you. I see tons of mixed babies from white women. I'd like to see more just white children. Our race will be a minority soon. i know if you have a drop of black blood, you're considered black. And the biggest problem for us is abortion and planned parenthood, mainly abortion. I have noticed, yes they have blonde hair, but they for the most part are not so very attractive- maybe it is desperation and rebellion. I can't imagine that black men are so much better endowed, and size doesn't matter. Maybe the black guys are like Obama- promise you the world, but it ends up being lies. That's just what I think and what I have observed. I have wondered what these women were thinking?
Well James my friend it has all been said and done, I think all men make promise that they can't or don't keep and as for as the president, I don't have any Idea how he got in the picture, but The [resident can't do no more than congress let him do. There no one out there than clean up the the mess all the other forty two president before him did, so people need to cut him a break. thank you sharing your hub James I appreciate you. blessings to you. creativeon59
Thanks, this hub shed more light into Black and White American relationship in a predominantly white society of ours today.
As an old immigrant, attending College in the early 70's, issue like this sometimes, crop up in our social discurse. At that time, we believed that hybrid of Black/White offsprings - mullatoes, will ameliorate Black and White prejudice.Transform American society beyond racial acrimony and divides amongst men and women of our society.
The victorious election of Barack Obama, as president of U.S today, is a testimony and evidence of the above theory.
The projection that Whites will be a minority 'ethnic' group in America by year 2050, is indication of the direction of what your hub is reflecting. This hub is telling us the trend and future history of America.
This is on scary hub -- people talking about the need to keep the races pure -- as if any of us are pure anything. Personally, I don't give a damn who sleeps with who, nor am I interested in why. I have a close friend, a woman from Ethiopia married to a blond, haired blue eyed white fellow and I never thought to ask why. Nor do I ask why of my neighbor, a white woman who has racially mixed children. They're nice kids, polite and well raised. Who cares?
James I get the impression one of the reasons you brought up this subject is because President Obama is married to a black woman who's family is black while Obama's mother and her side of the family are white.Sounds like a political issue to you as well as a social one.
Wow, I should be injured from all the bashing going on, but I'm not because people are generally ignorant. My first husband was white, supposedly a real nice guy until he became very abusive and started playing around behind my back. Five wives later, he cleaned up his act. But I looked around and saw this handsome kind Poly boy who treated me good and we have had a wonderful life together. We do live in Hawaii because interracial marriages are more accepted here. We have been subject to lots of prejudice. You can read more about my story here:
http://hubpages.com/hub/intercultural-families
My kids are great and are more accepting of other cultures than most. If I had met a black man that treated me the same way, I may have married him. White, black, brown, yellow, red - the color doesn't matter - it is how they treat you that counts in my humble opinion.
Hello James - I think you should read my hub "Teaching My Child About Race". Personally, I find darker men more attractive than white men. Always have. At 10 I fell in love with Micheal Jackson. My father was concerned. When my sister gushed that she loved Riff in "West Side Story" I said "Eeewww". She said "Well who do you like?" I smiled and said "Bernardo". I have a very hard time finding white men, even movie stars, that I think are really good looking. By the way, Adam and Eve looked like MIDDLE EASTERN JEWS James. Therefore they were NOT White. Some of your readers actually elude to God not wanting races mixed? Why would anyone believe that God would not want all his children to see each other the same way? As children of God? So what is the real difference besides Skin Color? Oy!
Regardless of how one plays it (Black gravitating to white of white gravitating to Black) it is still the proverbial "forbidden fruit." Black men have died throughout the past four centuries here in America for having the forwardness to raise their eyes to even look upon a white woman. Remember Emmett Till (1950's)? My hope, for those who presume to cross the "great divide," is that they don't end up hanging in limbo.
I will tell you this, i have talk to many white girls
while in college and i they all said that
black guys are more exciting to be with and better lovers point blank to my face.
they said that it something about the brown and
darker skin tone of black men. Now im a white guy and white girls have told me this many times when i would bring
this topic up. Some white girls have even told me that they
think about having a bi-racial kid cause its like some sort
of an in thing to do now cause of Obama winning.Its seems like to me that the tables have turned on us white guys. Well i glad im married
so i dont have to deal with dating anymore, thank GOD.
Hey but i can't go and blame black guys if a white girl
wants to be with a black guy. I have black and white
friends so i really dont care actually about the issue.
Interesting post! Well done. :)
linda-patriot— We certainly have a moral problem in this nation. Of that there is no doubt. The White Race does seem to be committing demographic suicide. Thank you for making your views known here.
creativeone59— The President's picture is only here because as with all the others pictured here he had a black father and a white mother. I appreciate your insights. Thank you and you are welcome.
hybridway— You are welcome. I do appreciate the social aims of the early 70s college campus. Why do you suppose this plan for hybrid babies is largely being carried out by black men with white women? Why is the ball not being carried equally by black women with white men having babies together? Thanks for your keen perceptions of the situation.
Immartin— I didn't mean to frighten anyone. From the level of response to this article I would say some folks do care. But I thank you for coming by to check it out and for presenting your valid views.
someonewhoknows— In this Hub I have no particular interest in Obama other than his black father/white mother— a trait he shares with the others pictured. I could have pictured Clarence Thomas—married to a white woman—if political balance was the goal. Thanks for coming by and leaving your comments.
elayne001— I will go read your Hub. Thank you for the tip. I agree that how one is treated is of great importance when selecting a mate. I hope you are not injured. Thank you for adding your experiences to this thread.
Moonchild60— I have read the Hub you published that you mentioned here. There is no difference in the inherent value of human beings based on the color of their skin. There are vast cultural differences of course. I agree that more than likely Adam and Eve looked like Middle Eastern Jews. Are not Middle Eastern Jews Caucasians?
Broker-Trade— AH! The forbidden fruit. I had forgotten about that term. That's a good one. I like it.
Thanks for coming by and adding your thoughts to this conversation.
I recall reading somewhere a conversation that took place in the 60s. A conservative white guy told his liberal white friend that if we integrate society the black men are going to eventually start screwing our women. The liberal friend said No, that is not true. That won't happen. They don't want our women, they just want equal rights.
ZACHARIAH— So have biracial kids is just the "in" thing to do these days? Well, that explains it.
I suppose black men may have escaped the feminization undergone by white men in the past 40 years and therefore more appealing to feminists. Ironic.
Thank you for your comments. Especially since you don't care about this issue. :)
lancelonie— Thank you! Welcome to the Hub Pages Community.
Well James, I do not claim to know the psychological reasons underlying why many black men prefer white women or why an equal number of white women at least, prefer black men at any given point in time. The reasons are probably as many and varied as they are for same race relationships and marriages. Factors may include geography, accessibility (interracial contact), rejection, common interest, revenge, values, emotional needs, environment, and even age. According to a study conducted by Cornell with results released in 2005, the number of interracial marriages involving whites, blacks and Hispanics each year in the United States has jumped tenfold since the 1960s, but, interestingly, the older individuals are, the less likely they are to partner with someone of a different race. It is also interesting that even though black/white relationships get the most notice, most interracial marriages occur between Asian/White, Hispanic/Black, Native American/White and many more.
For me, I think it is a glorious thing when people can find their heart’s desire, their soul mate, their spiritual and emotional equalizer in whatever package he or she may be wrapped in.
Blessings always!
As Tonymac wrote above - "Is this even an issue"?
I don't see what the fuss is all about. Whether they be black, white, yellow, green or blue - Underneath it all they are simply Man and Woman, not colours.
Regards.
Hi James
Seeing all the racial issues, is saddening. Freedom of will firstly, secondly when we pass from this world, will colour matter? Do people really think this is an issue to God. Size matters, texture of skin, better partners and such. Come now the pleasures derived from sex is a gift from God and lust has no part in God's kingdom. We are intellegent beings, to fulfull our duty of loving each other is what God expects from us. What we lack in know-how can be learned, discussed and then enjoyed. As for size, if the shoe fits, wear it should it makes you happy.
We are all different and we need to break this barrier of colour, it has to be from all sides as there is not just the issues of two colours.
Embracing cultures is also a issue and should we decide to embrace our partners or husbands/wifes culture then it should be up to us and not the family members or populace of that culture to judge.
As for making a person a trophy i.e. I had a white/black woman or for that matter black/white man. God will be the judge of a man or womans heart and it will have to be accounted for. Lets leave the judgement in his hands as he knows our hearts and we as mere human beings, will never know the deep reasons for two people being with one another. Sometimes we don't even know ourselves.
with the love
of the Lord Jesus
Paul
Some of these comments were hilarious. My answer to the question posed in the article is that white people seem to have a description of perfection attached to them when it comes to minorities. In the Philippines, women put on skin whitener, and in America, black men feel that having a white woman elevates their status in their own community.
Although I find it sad that minorities feel this way, it is also equally true that stereotypes exist for a reason. I'm not talking about racism, but that a real difference exists between races, and most of us are wired to look down on differences. I think it's disingenuous to say that it's just a skin color problem when there are real physical and cultural differences beyond color. Although my preference is for a Western European woman (I am Dutch), I am open to American girls and black Americans too, I would never shut the door on the wife God has for me. We are ALL equal.
In fact, the godliest women I have ever met were black. That's what really counts - marrying someone who holds the same beliefs. It is of course important to expect that there will possibly be consequences for an interracial marriage.
Some of these comments here have touched my heart! I don't consider my marriage to a white man going the other way, I believe this is the man that God gave me! You would have to hear my whole story to understand where I'm coming from. A man is a man to me no matter what color he is as long as he's first love is GOD! Sometimes we laugh at the looks we get!! lol, lol, People need to get over it and enjoy life and stop hating! I don't know what others are doing, but I am loving my man! lol, lol, Alexander Mark says it well! Blessings my friend!
RevLady— Thank you for adding your wisdom to the proceedings. I was reading that actual marriages are pretty close in numbers of male/female. But dating and sexual relationships are far skewed toward black man/white woman. Does this mean black women make men marry them first? :-)
I appreciate your calm soothing voice. I'm sure you are fine pastor.
Lady_E— I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is not to question your ideas, but to say something else is going on besides your ideas of "people are people" when the participation is so unequal. What is going on?
I do thank you for reading and commenting.
paulhvv— "Lust has no part in God's Kingdom." Well said. There is no disputing that wise word. Yours is a message of Love. I like it. Thank you for coming by and leaving us these nuggets of wisdom.
Alexander Mark— There are many very Godly black women in this thread and on HubPages. This has been impressed upon me. It is a pleasure to hear from you again, my aviation friend. Thank you for your insightful remarks.
drpastorcarlotta— AH! A man's first love should be love of God. Very well put, dear. I believe in this. You are a discerning woman. Thankfully, I have not felt hate in these comments. But there is certainly a wide range of opinion. Thank you for reading my little article and sharing your thoughts with us.
James, I am one of the few, a white man with a black wife. We also have three very intelligent, well adjusted daughters that are completely at ease in home and in public with either parent.
I think the true issue of race goes all the way back to Genesis - 'And their eyes were opened.' It's not that they couldn't see all along, simply, they didn't judge according to what they saw. Now people do. They are more attracted or less attracted to people because of skin color - they feel it is tribal to procreate with a like color. These reasons demean the character and emotion of the human being. Personally, I've met plenty of women of all colors and I prefered to see them all with my eyes shut - Whom did I trust? Whom did I feel safe with? Who was honest, loving, caring, nurturing?
There seems to be a great deal of concern for breeding all these mulato children outside of marriage. Sadly, there is really an epidemic not only in mixed relationships, but all heterosexual relationships. I am afraid too many have bought into the 'adultery is okay' belief. The commitment part of relationships seems to be missing. People only want to see, touch, taste, what they have been told they cannot have - and then find some more - The Eye is not satisfied with seeing.
Luke 11:34 'The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body is full of light, but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.'
Nice hub - It sure generated a wide range of opinions.
I enjoyed your article, James. I'm a religious person, and I read the Bible etc. but have yet to see where God commanded people to marry only in their race. Having said that, it works out that when you do have an inter-racial marriage you open up a problem box for the couple and their children - and most of it is because we here in America are not loving and kind enough to accept people as they are. I noticed in that Jeter photo - which is a great one - that he wasn't too interested in those girls. He's just such a gentleman and a great example of what boys should grow up to be that he agreed to a bunch of girls to get their picture taken with him. He's my favorite baseball player and I'm hoping the Yankees can win the World Series. Long way from subject, but oh well. You've hit a nerve with people on this subject - and you did an outstanding job, James. Don White
A M Werner— I agree with you that commitment seems to be passe and adultery—and absolutely fornication—are widely accepted. I am glad you have found happiness. Thank you for swinging by and writing your comments. Good stuff.
dusanotes— The Yankees are on their way! Jeter is from Kalamazoo, right near where I am from. But I digress.
I enjoy hitting a nerve here and there. It spices things up a bit. :)
Thanks, Don, for chiming in with your voice of reason.
Hello James - I have noticed this phenomenon but have never really thought about it much, or it's implications. I believe you have put your finger on something that is a social indicator of some sort that if studied, could answer a few important questions. Unfortunately, it's not something I've ever thought through and so can offer no insight. Very observant of you :) and very interesting hub!
Madame X— Well there are conspiracy theories about this phenomena, related to the New World Order. :)
Thank you for your compliments. It is great to hear from you again. You are a very discerning person.
Ah - comes the dawn . . . :)
Indeed it does. It was inevitable, I suppose, that it should come.
James I love your writings, and you are not afraid to talk about issues, that are controversial. My Father is white, my mother was black, she has pass, father never knew him or have ever seen him in my whole life. My children are bi-racial ex husband to one son is Muslim Arab. I have had, before salvation both black and white men. DancingRedFeather, you are wrong, that is a myth, and as all myths, a stereo type that all black men are good in bed is not true from a long shot. I could tell you some stories, that I have experiences. It is true when I was dating white men; I had the most trouble out of black men, who show their racism towards the white men that I was dating more then other white men. There is nothing in the scriptures against interracial marriage, but there is condemnation against marrying an unbeliever in Jesus or God the Father. James I do not have an answer for that, but I do see more black women are seeking white men, because black women feel that they will be treated better emotionally and spiritually. I do not know. I know I never had a problem, but I was overseas when I was dating white men, I do not know if that would or did make a difference. I want a godly man black or white man, because if a person does not love the Lord or have a relationship with Him, you will have hell in the morning, noonday and at night after the Honey moon is over. Good topic thank you James for keeping it real and this topic was real real! Hee! Hee! I love reading some of the answers more than the topic (smile :) ) I could not wait to read this topic. Another Great Hub! love it, keep writing!
James A. Watkins,
You are terrifically talented at selecting a wide range of interesting thought provoking subjects! If you are a believer then we all come from Adam and Eve, right? Yet there is this lingering questioning reserve. As mankind moved further and further away from our origins the color of mankind variegated due to climate, environment and...
My father and I must say was a most handsome man was born in the early 1900’s, he was biracial. His father was white his mother black. He was raised by his Aunt a very light skinned black Methodist minister. He had two sisters who passed for white. I never knew them… He and my black mother had eleven children; ten sons and one daughter, me. He was told that he would be forty before he could father a daughter. I was born when he was forty! My brothers dated all colors…
We have four sons and one daughter all married. My daughter is married to a white man. I raised my children to be proud of who they are and open to all people. I want to share a funny story. When my youngest son started school he had a best friend named Ricky they were born several months apart and were inseparable. He practically lived in our home, he was our next door neighbor. They were sitting at our kitchen table one day and Ricky said, “Look at our hands? They are different! Yours is kind of brownish and look I can see the blue veins in mine’s and I am kinda white, but not really?” He was white, blond hair and blue eyes. They had never even thought about their color. I explained color to my children like cookies “we all bake in the oven and come out all different colors…” Behind the epidermis surface we all bleed red! “People don’t come in grades like butter!” I seriously think I am going to start writing Colored, when asked and say Christian for my race...
Notice people love all breeds and colors of animals but when it comes to people? I think people should be more bothered by how someone loves, treats and respects you than what color they are? There are many components that make for a good relationship. For me you must Love God! I do not care what color you are if you do not have the same principles or values you are going to have major conflict. Heaven is not going to have a corner for your color or my color. Its multi colored with a rainbow encircling the throne, I think it is wonderful how colors are described as gemstones. What color is Love? Blessings!
Royal Diadem— Why thank you, dear. I have always been of the mind that there isn't anything that can't be talked about. I am sorry you lost your mother and didn't know your father. That seems to be a different kind of aloneness, when that happens. I have been surprised in this comments thread how many folks have dropped by who are children of white fathers/black mothers; or black women with white husbands. You are so right that what matters most about any man is that he be Godly. Maybe I should write a Hub about Believers married to Unbelievers? That might also be an interesting discussion.
You are welcome and I thank you very much for sharing your thoughts.
DeBorrah K. Ogans— Thank you for opening with a warm compliment. You are always so pleasant. Of course I believe we all come from Adam and Eve. You have ten brothers! Lord have Mercy! That's a lot of chaperons. People surely do love all colors of animals. I hadn't ever contemplated that before. I agree that people should only be judged by the content of their character. I do. I love people of all colors. Surely loving God is paramount. All peoples will be represented in Heaven.
How I appreciate your soothing voice. Thank you for posting your ideas here.
When you look at people and just see PEOPLE - then the whole race issue disappears. Simple isn't it? But then, I've had many black women friends and I have never heard em talk bout white men the way white women talk bout black men. Does that splain it to ya? Cuz everbody knows it the woman who choose the man, not the other way round!
None is superior than the other ...God made us all (and in His own image) There's nothing wrong with inter racial dating/marrying .... it's all about personal choice
James A. Watkins, I must say I always enjoy your articles. You are right about the chaperons. My husband will tell you that he, a brother and I went to the movies... Getting back to this wonderful informative article; I just wanted to say that you have a wonderful arena here “Keep hitting those nerves” Bringing it to the Light allows one to examine and become cognizant about how they may feel as well as, possibly dispel any erroneous dissonance. I too think it is important to be able to discuss anything as a matter of fact it is quite healthy. Kudos for this one, I’s always a pleasure and Thank you again for sharing!
SoftCornHippo— What you say is an ultimate truth: women decide. Only the woman knows how a date will end. :)
Thank you for reading my Hub. I appreciate your insights.
Samantha xl petit— xl petit? Interesting combination! My intent was not to point out something wrong with it but to muse about the imbalance I see in the gender participation. Thank you for tuning in and leaving your thoughts. Welcome to the Hub Pages Community.
DeBorrah K. Ogans— I am so pleased that you enjoy my articles. Roughly speaking, Socrates said "A life unexamined is not worth living." You are welcome. I thank you, dear, for your encouragement and depth of lovingkindness.
James I have been married for 15 years my husband is black and I am white no where is it written biblically that marrying one of another color is wrong. I believe it was Delilah who was darker then Sampson if I am correct. I am over thirty so it was not about rebellion it was about love. My parents never brought us up to look at the color of a person's skin but to embrace them for who they are. Many of us fell in love with the person not the shade and in our marriage we have been called everything in the book but our love for one another is strong. To all of the beautiful black women who are married to white men , good for them! You see it is not the color of the person that makes you fall in love, it is who they are that sets them apart from the rest. Thank you for bringing this discussion to light I am certain it was not meant to cause any conflict it was simply aimed for clarity and understanding. :)
AEvans— Yes, my dear. You are sweet and I know you are having a tough time right now with your beloved husband. I indeed have written this for clarity and understanding not to cause conflict. I have been encouraged by the response so far. You keep on keeping on. What a thrill it is to hear from you. Thank you for coming by and sharing your wisdom.
Sometimes these things are so hard to understand but your open mind and passion for others makes you a great writer. Yes I am having a tough time and now mom has been diagnosed so it has been one heck of a year. Wisdom comes from within and no matter how complicated things may seem knowledge is always the key to understanding. I do believe that some marry to have an arm trophy and others marry for love, our home is filled with love for each other. When I look at my husband I look at him as a man with passion and fire. His humor and his intelligence reminds me of Bill Cosby his zeal for life reminds me of God almighty himself. I am so blessed to have him by my side and could not imagine losing my best friend. Thank you for writing on this subject. ((Big Hugs)) :)
Thanks again James. You enquired 'why there are not more White men embracing biracial relationship than White women?
The answer is simple. 'ego', 'pride' and of course, White fellows loath poverty, mediocre economic reward and achievement which under-achiever partner might bestow on them; especially in the days of social networking of Old boys looking out for each other. Wife or partner must fit in or look right. ( I apologise if I am naive in my Observation or analysis. I don't mean any harm).
The society still look down on White fellows dating black women. This is less so for Black women now adays.
This new generation are changing history.
James, I don't get it! Why is it so surprising about seeing bi-racial children with white mothers? My ex-husband is bi-racial and my mother, who is now deceased, was bi-racial. I have nieces and nephews who are bi-racial...white mother or white father.
Love does not see color. Humans who see through discriminating eyes see skin color first. I would never deny myself the blessings of God because of the one thing a human being cannot change...their race...ethnicity.
I don't think this is an issue about the many bi-racial children, this is an issue about James.
AEvans— You have a lot on your plate. I am sorry to hear about your Mom. At least you have a home filled with love. Lord knows, that goes a long way. I have long admired Bill Cosby. He is a man's man. ((BIG HUGS)) back to you, dear. I'm going to pray for you right now.
hybridway— Thank you so much for coming back and offering your keen analysis. What you say makes sense, though I hadn't thought of it. I am getting quite an education here!
S Max Mahaffey— hmmm . . . Is that it? An issue with James? Well, I appreciate your analysis. Thank you for reading and commenting.
From what I can tell Moses married an Ethiopian. The only marriage that God disapproves of is Christians marrying idol worshippers or pagans.
What does the bible really say?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez_eRihgmJ8
spiderpam— Yes, I believe you are correct on both counts. Thank you adding this to the record. God Bless You!
spiderpam— You are a great teacher. I very much enjoy your Hubs. Thanks for the link.
really enjoyed this hub...... just being nosy and female, do you always wear a shirt and tie, i mean it looks like you are on holiday there, and you have your shirt and tie, and shades on.... thanks for your good quality hubs, i like your thought process
poetlorraine— I am glad you did. I was in Monaco on holiday when this photo was snapped. I always keep them guessing. I do not always wear a tie but I always wear a shirt. I probably need a hairshirt. ;0
You are welcome. Thank you for your affirmation.
funnily enough you came to mind yesterday. I was on the guys corridor, and getting up lots of males, from different backgrounds and different ages. Because we have to dress them, for our ease we like jogging bottoms and t.shirts, but it is amazing how many want shirts, and some shirts and ties on...... it just got me wondering about this subject. It is the first thing tha strikes me a bout you.... you will probably end up in a nursing home,giving the carers hell.......
poetlorraine— Guys corridor? At the nursing home? Some want to dress up. I like to dress up. Maybe you would like my Hub
http://hubpages.com/hub/Giorgio-Armani
One never knows where one will end up. Life is full of surprises. Nothing I have predicted has come true. :)
Thanks for visiting me and leaving your remarks. I enjoy hearing from you.
James, you have definitely written one to stir folks up...again. Very well written though.
I have dated women of various races. I do notice that the trend does tend to run as you state. There are some truth to a lot of the comments made. Specifically, regarding gender roles. Jack West made this comment: "Our theory is that people tend to be the most protective of their peoples women" I think there is a lot of truth to that. That explains the bias and not the phenomenon itself. I think two issues drive the trend.
First, the media. The media whether we like to admit or not defines beauty, popularity and in some cases right and wrong to the masses. How many famous female models are black? How many are white? Same goes for actress'. Men are paticularly subseptable to this because we are visually driven. Basically, popular American culture defines beauty in the female form as the "Blonde Bombshell". That being said men of all races will naturally be drawn to that demographic.
The next biggest influence is society itself. While on the decline, white society is still primarily patriarchial. On the contrary, black society is matriarchial. This is where the "Angry Black Woman" or "White Women are Weak" stereotypes come from. Regardless of race the majority of men see themselves as the leader in family type relationships. Men can find themselves at odds with their feelings, particularly in a matriarchial society.
How do I come to my conclusions? Well, like I have stated I have dated outside my race on several occasions. I have also lived with roomates who dated outside of their race exclusively. Like you, I wanted to know, so I asked. Also you can't be in a relationship with someone of a different race or religion with out the topic coming up. The idea that merely asking the question is a bad thing is about as wrong headed and outdated as racism itself.
C. J. Wright— Every pot needs to be stirred once and awhile. Thank you for the compliment.
Jack West definitely hit on something there. I hadn't thought about the media, but you are right about that it seems. That is changing, though. Your thoughts about matriarchal versus patriarchal cultures are brilliant. You are surely a deep thinker. And I agree with you: we have to be able to talk.
Thank you for your astute analysis.
James my friend, interesting and different topic for you! As always race opens Pandora's box! Even if you are only asking a question without meaning any harm my friend, there are those with tender toe's!
My daughter (Foster-daughter) dates only men who are not black, since she was shot in the head by a black man. She is black. She has never said she only dates other men now because of this incident but that is indeed how it has played out. Her son, my grandson, married a white woman and they share a baby girl. His father was (deceased) a black man. My friend Sheena a black woman with 2 black parents, married a Japanese man with two 2 Japanese parents, and they share a daughter. My daughter, I think her choices are out of fear, misplaced of coarse. One man's deed should not be held against all men of that color. I do not believe she does this purposely. Her son simply chose because of personality and looks, he fell in love as most people do. So did my friend. As those who simply hit and run leaving behind broken hearts and babies, shame on them, for whatever reason they do it! I think there just as many unwed mothers who have the same race of babies as their mothers, it is simply easier to over look them, since our nosy eyes aren't looking for them. For some reason no matter how hard each race tries, we always look at or notice interracial couples, families, mother's and their children and father's and their children! Our own race just blends in with everything else going on around us! There should be no shame in interracial love and marriage and only an overwhelming sadness to children born into a home without both parents.
Maybe this should have been a hub. Sorry I got so long winded!
Kebennett1— No reason to apologize my dear. You can comment as much as you like here. You know you are always welcome. Your remarks are very interesting and I appreciate you making them here. I always look forward to your visits.
James I like the fact that you write about whatever you want to write about and you always comment back on people who comment you whether they agreed with your point or not. I have noticed that you are always respectful and you are sincerely happy to see other people's points of view. On this particular hub I wondered what people would say about it in their comments -I supposed they would think you were not "politically correct" in pointing out what you observed. In my own part of the US--- I observe the same thing as you and would have to agree with the point you made that you hardly ever see a white man with a black woman.
Thanks for another interesting hub -- looking forward to more.
All I have to say is, that I have a couple of friends who married black men. One of my friends said she always dated black men, because they treated her better than the white men she had dated previous. It seems good for us to learn to accept each other no matter our race, or differences. Encourage one another and stretch to be friends with someone you never thought you could be friends with. I think this helps us with our spiritual growth, we learn that non of us are perfect. We all sin, even when we try not too. Just help one another, and be accountable to the other to learn to overcome whatever our difficulties are:)
I have wondered this myself and applaud you for asking the question out loud when I didn't have the courage. I have grandchildren that are bi-racial and my step daughter says she prefers black men because they treat her better as heart4theword stated about her friends.
vanderhaven— I appreciate your observations. Thank you for visiting my Hub and leaving your insightful words. And you are welcome. :-)
heart4theword— I absolutely agree with you that we should seek friendships outside our ethnic group. Surely you are right that none are perfect for all have sinned. Thank God for Grace.
I appreciate you coming by and leaving your remarks.
Godslittlechild— Thank you very much for coming by and leaving your observations.
what up mister big nuts,because you have a huge pair on you.are you writing for controversy?anyway,Robert De niro,cisco&Ebert(the one with the glasses)K-fed,A couple of Southern Senators,and where I am from SOUTH CAROLINA you will see white men and black women togethor as much as black men and white women,and we are a conservative state so I wonder where do you live?I've been involved with white women and Asian women and it was never because of their race it was because we clicked.I am multi-racial myself Black,Cherokee,and somewhere down the line caucasion.I think you might be multi- racial yourself don't you have cherokee blood running through your veins?As far as Adam and Eve well they was AFRICAN not jews thats a scientific fact,we are all descended from the AFRICANS like it or not.but the one thing I like about you is you write about whatever you want to write about,and I like that.Thats why I'm one of your fans,for me to become your fan that means I'm actaully reading your stuff,I don't fan people just to fan people.Peace.
James, my dear friend. You have another great hub. I would say that I love people all races. I would like to input my thoughts.
When I was in Internal Medicine residency in Chicago, I treated many black people. In the old country we did not have blacks, just gypsies, they call them Romo's now. Not good news for most of them. So I do not have any prejudice and as well my family. In Chicago there was my patient lady, black, who was white. She lost her pigment and become albinos. She shared with me an interesting story: She said: Dr.Vladimir, I have big problem. I think white do not like me because I am originally black and black did not like me because I am looking white and rejecting me. She was in tears.
My personal problem is not the color, but politics behind it. Black leaders are stirring more racial problems. I noticed that black are more racial than white. At least it is my independent conclusion.
I wanted to address error that we are not all children of God and it is perpetuating a lots. We were God's children and we lost it. Now we can come back, to be adopted.
Regarding of time of Moses, there were not black and white Jews. It was only one race and there was not race problem. Marriage outside was problem. Now we have Jews all kind of race after dispersion.
I am not sure about any proof we came from Africa. We came from Mesopotamia.
Thanks James.
bill yon— I live in Florida, though I have been to South Carolina many times. I am part Cherokee, yes. I think that theory about Adam and Eve being black comes from Louis Farrakhan, not from science. Noah sent his son Ham south to live in Africa. For Ada, and Eve to be Middle Eastern makes sense because they seem to be about in the middle of all colors and races—and in the middle geographically. The Garden of Eden is widely thought to have been in Iraq (or maybe Israel).
Thank you very much for being my fan. I do appreciate that. I have read some of your work. I will make a point to read more. Thank you for visiting and commenting.
James, great hub as usual. Love is colour blind. We can't all be the same. Our colour should unite us not pull us apart.
In my family, my dad is mixed with a white dad and black mother I believe. I really don't know because I've never seen either of them and they have been dead a long time. My sister has a white hubby and my brother has a baby mother who's white. All that to mean that this black and white thing has been going on during and after slavery.
Again the only thing that really matters is love. We need to love one another.
Thanks, for the topic James. One love.
Vladimir Uhri! How nice to hear from you again, my old friend. Thank you for the compliment and you are also welcome.
Race-baiting and racial politics, or identity politics of many kinds, is a big problem in the U.S.
I appreciate you for adding much wisdom to this thread today.
Chris Eddy111— Always a pleasure to hear from you. Thank you for the kind compliments. I agree with you wholeheartedly: we need to love one another. Love is the greatest attribute. And it is an action verb. Thanks for your fine comments. And you are welcome.
James, your hub sparked a lot of commentary. Lena Horne is an exception to your observations:
Lena Horne's second marriage was to Lennie Hayton, a Jewish American, from December 1947 until his death in 1971. Hayton was one of the premier musical conductors and arrangers at MGM. In her as-told-to autobiography Lena by Richard Schickel, Horne recounts the enormous pressures she and her husband faced as an interracial married couple. However, she later admitted (Ebony, May 1980) that she really married Hayton to advance her career and cross the "color-line" in show business.
Horne is a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated.
Screenwriter Jenny Lumet, known for her award-winning screenplay Rachel Getting Married, is Horne's granddaughter. She is the daughter of filmmaker Sidney Lumet and Horne's daughter Gail.
From what I've observed, more and more African-American men and women are dating and marrying interracially. Heads don't turn the way they used to at the sight of an interracial couple. Eventually, as is the case in Brazil, predominantly interracial ancestry is likely to become more common in this country than black or white ancestry. It will take a long time, but it will happen. More and more people are worrying less and less about racial distinctions.
Other notable inter-racial couples are former Defense Secretary William Cohen and Robert DeNiro both of whom are married to black women. Senator Carol Mosley Braun is married to a white man.
According to this source black-white marriages increased from 65,000 in 1970 to 422,000 in 2005 (from 2% to 7%).
http://interracialcelebrity.blogspot.com/. This source doesn't say what percentage of the interracial marriages involved black women versus white women.
Hey! Mr. Ralph Deeds— It is a pleasure to hear from you, my fellow Michigander. I appreciate your interesting analysis and link you provided. Thank you for visiting.
Ya know, James, I never really thought about this before, but you're right. Here in the South, I seldom see a white guy with a black girl. Wonder why?
habee— That is a good question. A few folks have offered some pretty good theories in this thread. Why do you think?
Man James, you got people hopping with this Hub! It's so good I made sure I clicked on those ads plenty of times. I myself believe there are many reasons for this interracial dating thing. However the most prominent reason maybe that our melding society has taught us that Caucasian is the prettiest of the races, whether that's true or not. Black women have been know to spend thousands of dollars on their hair to get it to look a certain way. Now we claim that we are not trying to look white, but most styles are long, silky and straight; what is that if not white? Asian? Lol.
Well, I like to think of myself as American before I think of myself as anything else. So I say live and let live! Oh ya, for those who are trying to mix religion in all this, I strongly suggest they read the Bible instead of listening to everyone else's version of it. There's interracial marriage all through it. (Some good and some bad) Check out the story of Exodus.
Girlfriend— You provide us with wise counsel and for that I am indebted to you. Thank you for visiting my humble Hub and leaving your insights.
Huf!... Honestly? after reading your hub and most of the comments to it - the only thing I can say is... If I was a bit optimist about humanity itself, in recognizing and accepting others freedom and choises, I must say that what I saw here completly ruined it. I'm sorry for saying this, and I'm aware of the segregationist policies until what(?) 50 years ago in the States... but come on... Shame on you!:(
I have always wondered as well why this happens. I don't know if it's because black men do not like black women; I don't know if white women are just enthralled by black men because they are beautiful? I don't know. I have never dated a black man, but I have known a couple of my white girl friends who have dated black men. I have never asked WHY, but maybe it is because to them, they just see them as a person who they could potentially date.
I do find people of "color" to be attractive, although black men are not at the top of my list. I tend to find Asians to be very attractive, but that's just me.
Good hub!
rcisophie— I am not suggesting anyone's freedom be curtailed. I am asking a question: why is interracial dating so lopsided in America? It is obvious but no one talks about it. We are just having a conversation here. No offense intended.
The Sablirab— I had someone tell me that black men like white women because they are dumb and will do whatever you tell them to (that has not been my experience); that they can't get away with anything with black women.
Thank you very much for reading and commenting.
the only real difference between a black woman and a white women is skin color.I use to think that white women would be nicer or have less attitude than black women when I was younger but found out through experience that was definetly not the case.every woman is different,and I have known Black people,and white people that are just not attracted to their own race so they date outside of their race.And the funny thing is I'm single I get approached by more latino and white women then I do black women.go figure.
bill yon— You make interesting observations. Thank you for tuning in and leaving your words here.
James, I am back! It is funny how things work. Yesterday, after telling my daughter about this article, a black man wearing a Dashiki accosted her outside of the Dollar Store we were buying Thanksgiving decorations at, and told her needed to 'hang out' with her own kind. He was giving me dirty looks when I walked out the door. I had no idea what was transpiring at that moment, so I didn't know what the looks were for. She had just told him, that I was her kind. That I was her mother and the other White, Red head behind me was her grand mother. He disappeared before I had a chance to speak with him! Just thought I would share the experience!
Kebennett1— Welcome back! What an odd experience. I don't know what to make of it. hmmm . . . Thanks for sharing with us. I appreciate your support.
White girls like black men for a number of reasons. Reasons quite similar to why we like white men. Because they are men. And most of these reasons that everyone spends so much time deducting are obvious in my opinion.
I am white, and my boyfriend is mixed, and so are his parents. So I guess I am just some statistic that a bunch of racists cant let go. Such comments like "Stick to your own.." really bother me.
My family shuns me for my actions, and accuses me of doing it just to anger them. There words don't change the fact that I love his mind, his heart, and his beautiful body.
But to answer the question, we are curious. After being raised by a family that shuns interracial activity, there is this kind of shock that runs through me( and most likely many white girls) when a black man walks in a room. Its like all I can focus on, the forbidden fruit. We all have a little Eve in us.
There is also the factor, which makes me blush to write, which is sex. I am sorry to say this, but sex is important to all woman. And we have heard since we were in the playground that black boys are big. No not big, huge beyond a white mans understanding. And that kind of curiosity will take control of a person.
And there are many white girls,.. that don't consider skin color at all. They see the person within and there is no reason besides common interests and beliefs to blame.
And there are those that find the exotic differences so interesting, and comforting.
But you are right, it is happening. We see interracial couples everywhere, because people are finally realizing..skin color is meaningless. It is no different than blue or brown eyes, red or black hair..
Black is Beautiful.
KylerDurr— Well. I want to thank you for sharing so much of the female mind here. I am sure that your comments are enlightening to my readers. I appreciate you coming by and I welcome you to the Hub Pages Community.
This whole issue confounds me... Are we not all human animals of the same kingdom? The judgmental issue is pure emotion of the ego with no logic... I hope humanity can get beyond this trivial pursuit in my life time, it has wasted breath that could be spent on really significant issues... Just my opinion..
James, your chronicle on the issue is worthy; but the issue itself is lame...
Ioua— We are all Images of God. I appreciate your point of view. We can't be serious all the time or things might get boring. I am sorry to have disappointed you. I'll do better in the future.
James -
Look at my photo. I'm "non-white"...according to the laws of the majority of US States. These "laws" were established by Protestants. So, according to Protestants, I'm "non-white".
I'm also non-black. So, I'm neither "white" nor black. I'm an NA (Seneca) with blue-eyes...according to the State "laws". I mean...how dumb is THAT?
Good topic only 1 thing...Don't be pissed if somebody likes to argue with this topic.
Tina, it's not just dumb. It's nuts.
Dear James: I enjoy your courage. There are no leaves un turned with you in the neighborhood. I think it is good when people can openly discuss sensitive subjects that stir curiosity. Knowledge is a great tool. There is an old saying that there are no foolish questions.
I believe that questions should be answered. When we are afraid to ask questions in regard to a subject, thats when I start to wonder a bit.
Satisfying curiousity is a pleasure we try to enjoy in America. Take politics for example,I was once told there are still places on earth where people can still be hung by their feet and tortured to death for asking questions that are considered political. We may not be entirely free, but we enjoy a fair bit of it, freedom that is. God Bless you and always be curious about whatever you want to be curious about in America.
Stars439, Yes there are places like that. Several CIA agents were convicted in absentia in Italy for grabbing suspects/agents/terrorists?? off the streets in Rome and sending them to be tortured in those places to which your comment refers.
Great Hub indeed. However, I think it doesn't matter what skin tone you are but, what you prefer. Choice, is very powerful and it allows us the freedom to welcome different outlook and perspectives. It also speak volumes of the World that we live in today, which is more open-minded about bi-racial kids, dating and so on. With that being said "WE" need to focus more of our attention towards the power of "FREEDOM" AND "EQUALITY".
Dfondo, amen brother!
Tina Irene— So, you are kind of caught in between. I see no reason to officially classify people on governmental documents. This is a tool of identity politics to demand special privileges and taxpayer funds for certain groups. Thanks for logging in with your insightful comments.
Giovanni— Thank you! I expect some dissonance and do not mind at all.
Ralph Deeds— You'll get no argument from me, brother.
stars439— Thank you. I so enjoyed reading your remarks. I agree with you and I thank you for your sensible and astute insights. God Bless You.
Ralph Deeds— Thank you for a sobering view of the world in which we leave. We do need the balance you help provide.
Dfondo— Thank you for coming by to read my work. I appreciate your comments.
Ralph Deeds— Thank you for reading my article and offering your thoughts.
This Hub was on the Featured list when I checked in tonight, and I'm glad it was.
In my own extended family, your premise (that biracial couples tend strongly toward black male with white female) does seem to hold true: Where one of our primarily caucasian group has hooked up with a black person, it has without exception been one of our girls.
Oddly (or not), the same is not true when it comes to hooking up with Native American partners. My paternal grandfather's second wife (of 32 years, till death did them part) was a Mandan fullblood. One of my aunts married a Native American man, and others who have "crossed over" to mate with partners from nations as diverse as the Choctaw, Salish, and Cree--well, they're about evenly divided as to gender.
Go figure.
Ghost32— I am part Cherokee myself, and with a bit of Choctaw perhaps mixed in. I am well pleased that you came by to check out my article. Thank you for your comments.
James A. Watkins, I was looking for a response but I must be on the delete list with Thegecko for not using the hs word or thw wtf word. Without revealing my nationality, maybe you answered your own question about certain men wanting a euphoric situation and some women need a man with strength not so much as spirtual but one who will stand up for themselves as well as for her. There that is your answer why you do not see more white guy/black girl combination.
Melanocytes are the cells in our skin that give us our color. They are also the cells that darken when exposed to the sun. Every human being on the planet has the same number of melanocytes in their skin. It is genes that determine how dark those melanocytes will be. So whether you are almost blue-black in color or pale as a ghost, underneath it all, we are all the same. So for those of you that think by marrying someone whose skin is the same color as yours that you are keeping a race pure, you are wrong. You are merely extending genetic material into another generation. It's no different than passing on brown eyes or red hair.
lindagoffigan— I don't have a delete list, dear. I was not on line much yesterday is all. I am scrolling up this thread and I don't see where you made any comments. I have never deleted any comment I have received. Is your comment missing above or do I just not see it?
Without revealing your nationality? hmmm . . . Well, I must say that I have never heard of a black girl named Linda. Goffigan? Sounds Irish.
lastwordlinda— First, allow me to welcome you to the Hub Pages Community. Thank you for the instructive insights. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us here.
I had to come back and read these comments! When I was in high school, I dated a college student from Colombia. I received a lot of negative feedback for it. I never really understood why. He was gorgeous, wealthy, and very charming - you know, just what teenage girls are drawn to! I really didn't care what others thought.
habee— That is an unusual avatar. Is that you?
Welcome back. That's an interesting story. Thanks for sharing.
Thought provoking post. The answer is not that difficult, though there isn't one "catch all" answer to the question concerning black men and white women.( I can only speak for black men) Here's what I think:
1. Fantasy
Black men primarily date black women. Dating a white woman is considered exotic to a black man.
2. Attraction
Attraction has no color, especially when it's physical. Black men are attracted to attractive white women.
3.Music/as a connector
R&B and Hip Hop music has had the greatest influence on interacial relationships than anything else.The soulful sound of this unique music, along with the lyrical content, brings young, old, white, and black people together. Statistics show that white males are the predominate purchasers of hip hop music over blacks.
4. Status
Some black men date white women simply for status. In the minds of some black men, "white" is a symbal of superiority. This mindset is rooted in slavery.(this topic would take up too much time to cover)
5. Curiosity
There are those who date white women out of curiosity. Usually, this type of curiosity is sexual in nature. This is one of the reasons why interacial relationships don't work out.
6.Rumors
The rumors are mainly sexual. These rumors are usually fueled by pornography.The sexual rumors attached to white women produces "sexual curiosity" on the behalf of black men.
7.Attitude
Some black men view white women as passive compared to black women, who appear more rebellious. Because of this passive attitude, black men tend to chose white women.
Finally
There are black men who date and marry white women because they fell in genuine love with them. They started off as friends and then the relationship escalated to something more intimate. Neither party gave consideration to the color difference between the two. Genuine love. these are the relationships that continue to stand the test of time.
I don't believe that interacial relationships are wrong. However, I do respect the preferences of those who object.
You said, "..where are all the white guy/black girl couples one would expect to see out on the town?"
The truth is, white men have always been critical of other white men who was attracted to someone outside of their race.Here in NC, there are plenty of white men/black women.During slavery, slave owners secretly had sexual relationships with black women, even baring children (which the white slave owners almost always denied).This is why there are "light skinned" blacks. I know white men personally who desire to sleep with black women but will never admit it openly because of the fear of what their friends might say. White women communicate with other white women more openly than white men do between themselves.Women are more sensitive toward one another than men are. white women are less concerned about losing their membership to their favorite club. White women have always gone against popular opinion when it comes down to race. Lets face it, we men are more "pig headed" and harder to change than women, so we will see more white women/black men than white male/black women. Thanks for being honest with your postings. I'm a fan:)
One more thing. Bi-racial women are the most beautiful women on earth (besides my wife ofcourse):D
wscott1971— Welcome to the Hub Pages Community!
Well, I think you have solved the puzzle, my friend. You've said it all and said it well. Thank you very much for providing this insight.
(Well of course besides your wife!) :-)
It's good to be here. You can call me Scott.
Thank you James....I learned a long time ago that when I compliment other women, I'd better place my wife on the top:)
wscott1971— OK, Scott. I hear you. I will tell my wife, that's a gorgeous woman alright, but not as gorgeous as you. :D
James this is nothing new. It has nothing to do with Oba-Hussein.
vrajavala— Really? That is interesting. I don't know if he could be cited as the origin but I would expect it to accelerate from the days of B.O. I expect the new calenders will arrive shortly. :D
When I was in the army I dated Asian chicks japanese chinese,indonesian,whatever I love Asian chicks,why is that?I could not tell you why,Its something about them.If you are a man and you make it from the cradle to the grave without dating someone outside of your race well...its your life but remember gods gift to man is women.
People are people. Who cares what colour they are? And what do you mean by 'black' and 'white'. People come in innumerable interesting shades but I've never met anyone who was actually 'black' or 'white'.
OMG!!! Are we really serious? LOL....all I can do is laugh at some of the ridiculous content/comments. I am not going to even get into why because it's not worth it to me, being that I am a very open minded person and a female who happens to love MEN in general race has never been an issue to me in fact I am a black woman that was married twice to white men (granted Im divorced now..LOL) and I have two bi-racial children. But as I said I love men no matter their color, black, white, asian, latin whatever and I agree with Scott.Life that it is a matter of preference. Anyway why is it even just a black and white topic you are focusing on? What about blacks & puerto ricans, or asians & whites...... is being with someone black really a huge problem? It's almost insulting....but I value freedom of speech.... WTF about John Gosselin and Kate, that happens to be an interracial couple with bi-racial children and Oh, by the way he only dates white chics...LOL look what a prize he turned out to be, and please don't get me started on the whole Ojay Simpson thing and how all black men must abusive their white women...UGH!!! And no not all people think OJ is innocent LOL....I know that freak killed those people but it doesn't mean that he is any more of a woman beating piece of crap than any white man that beats the crap out of his women. It's insane and I could go on and on but I won't. I have to say though James, I give you an A+ for writing an attention grabbing hub and getting more traffic to your site! Brilliant! We are all humans (the last time I checked) with feelings, hearts, brains and all the other crap we possess why does it always have to be about race? I am so sick of that puppet show "Who Cares?" Get over it and worry about real issues like that nut case "Octomom" Nadia Sullman who keeps popping out children with NO husband and wasting our tax dollars for her retardation.....but yet she gets a reality show when most women (and you know which ones Im talking about) would have gotten a disgusting glare and a bus trip to the nearest WIC/Welfare department. Racism will never go away people so don't get the party hats out just yet!
Best To You All & God Bless
Oh my, what will all the black guys that like to date white women do now since most of them tend to be turning black so it has been appearing anyway.....I'm all for it white girls! Do your thang...LOL keep getting the big lips and the tan skin, the big booties and boobies and weave galore! Welcome to the club....LOL!!! I love everyone & just having fun!!!! Kisses & Hugs xoxo
Well my boyfriend is PERFECT!!!! personality wise. But idk like he's not UGLY, but hes not my type. I am very pretty to a lot of people so it kind of embarasses me sometimes when my friends see who he is, but hes an amazing boyfriend and his looks don't bother me, just in the fact that i get embarassed of what others might think. only a few of my friends think he is cute, and im used to dating the HOTTIES that everyone thinks are hott. And another big problem is i could never tell my parents im dating him because, they're not racist, but they dont approve of white and black couples, and my boyfriend is half white half black, and im white, so my parents would NEVER approve and they've told me before hat they wouldnt. so my parents dont know im dating him, but i love him, but i dont think i'll ever be able to tell my parents about him. should i ignore what people think or is he just not made for me and i should try and find someone else. We've been dating for almost 4 months, and hes ALREADY told me hes in love with me...
help!
Let me answer this one for you, first off yes your parents are racist and second, you need to do your boyfriend a favor and break up with him because he should be with someone that is not going to be ashamed of him cause when you really care about someone you don't give a crap what anyone thinks and they will either learn to accept it or move on. I'm sorry to be so blunt but it is what it is and you asked the question so I gather you are not here to have your hand held and things sugar coated. To me the whole thing sounds a little shallow sweetie and you are not mentally able to handle that type of relationship apparently so I would advise that you not date outside of your race since you are not even comfortable in your own skin yet....sorry but I say these things to help everyone involved. Best to you!
bill yon— That rumor about it being sideways is not true, is it? I'm afraid I have stuck to vanilla myself. There are, of course, plenty of that flavor around. Thanks for your comments.
Emily Metliss— I think a lot of people do care. More than are willing to say in our politically correct society. I am in favor of abolishing categories. But classifying people by race is not going to be given up easily by the "oppressed" who depend on it for identity politics. Thank you for reading and commenting.
PashaS— OMG! Welcome to the Hub Pages Community!
I am glad we have provided chuckles for you. I only focused on what I see in public, as I said. If I go into an Applebees or Chilis tomorrow for lunch I will bet I see maybe 3 black guys with white girls. It is once a year that I will see a white guy with a black girl. This is my observation. I am only saying there is something sociological going on here besides simply preference. Would not simple preference—without psychological differences—swing equally both ways? I think so.
Thank you for the A+ and I will confess that the traffic has been plentiful.
Why does it have to be about race? You tell me: why do we have affirmative action and racial politics?
God Bless You and thank you for your stirring commentary.
PashaS— Welcome back. I think this has something vaguely to do with multi-culturalism. Sort of like the Whiggers phenomena. You do remember that one?
HCOvolleyballbabe— Welcome to the Hub Pages Community, girl in the pink bikini. I believe you are the only person here with an avatar featuring a bikini. God Bless You!
After only four months he's already told you he thinks he might be in love with you!? Wow! That's incredible!
Seriously, thank you for tuning in and sharing your story with us. Those darn parents!
PashaS— Your advice is good. Thank you for pinch hitting for me. :)
James this was a fun read. As a teenager I really wanted a black boyfriend. I wanted to test my parents I think. Make sure they were as open minded as they said they were... alas there were only three black kids in my school. Celebrities for their difference mind you. As it turned out, the only cute one was a girl... open minded but I have my limits.
As an adult, I have several girlfriends (white) that just think black men are "prettier." Sometimes they're spot on. We are so shallow.
Randy— I shall never be able to blot out from my mind's eye your nude photos. What a pleasure to have you visit my humble Hub. There is nothing shallow about you. I've read plenty of your poetry, so I know better. Thanks for coming.
Hello James well I guess I am one of the rare ones!! I am in a Multi-Racial marriage I am white my wife is black!
First of all let me say that I love my wife very dearly!
It is common that Men are the dominate ones in a relationship/marriage!
However it is cultural in the African American cultural that the woman does not take to kindly to having to be submisive nor are they timid therefore a man has to be willing to be submissive on many occasions!
It is often found in the Anglo culture that the man is the more dominate in the relationship/marriage so when you have a black woman and a white man in a relationship; often times the two cultures clash!
Rarely do you find a black woman and a white man married because the two are not willing to give up the 50-50 it takes to make a marriage work.
As far as it being against God’s order well I am not here to judge however I have a master's degree in theology and have done many thesis’s on cultural religion and its differences and never have I found the words in scripture that said “Thou shall not marry a different race”
James you have always posted super hubs and I have to say you have succeeded again!!!
GREAT HUB!!
Well thanks James. Geez, I think I'm blushing. Although the poem I wrote tonight is pretty darn primal. Now I'm wishing I would have published something more evolved. :)
No Problem James, my pleasure and if you are ever in CT. look me up.....LOL!! I will give you a good hub to write, "Once you go Black you Never Go Back!" LOL!!!!! Hugs & Kisses xoxo
Best!
mdawson17— Well, how about that! I have gotten similar messages from quite a few folks in this thread so maybe it's not that uncommon. Maybe you folks just don't get out much. :D
Just kiddin'. Loving your wife dearly is important. And it's very important to write; in case she reads this. :)
The cultural differences you refer to I have heard expressed before. There's probably validity there.
Thank you for the accolades. I appreciate you coming by and sharing your story with us. We are accumulating quite a few angles here. And that's good. Damn the Torpedoes!
Randy Behavior— I just went and read your poem and it is delicious! And I'm not a poetry person, so you have impressed the hithertofore unimpressible.
PashaS— You're funny! So . . . I could write off the trip as research! Now that's a thought. Especially if that's really you in the avatar. LOL! ;0
What difference does it make? In the end it's no one's business but their own.
God has nothing to do with it. There is no such thing as a 'pure race' as DancingRedFeathers stated - it's all made up in the minds of bigots and those who need cause to hate.
I found this article to be highly inflammatory and I do not understand why race has anything to do with anything these days. We are not living in a time where it's okay to be ignorant and intolerant. We have come a LONG WAY and this just feeds into those who have nothing better to do than to cling to their hate and are too afraid to come into the 21st century with the rest of us.
It hits very close to home for me and I take issue with it.
Color of one's skin makes no difference - if you cut me open I will bleed the same shade of red as you.
mstopvega— My intent was not to inflame. One difference it could make is a lot of white men and black ladies who don't have anybody. Maybe. Race is still featured in identity politics all the time. Percentages of this, percentages of that. Surely you know this. Does that offend you as well? I don't see any hate here unless . . .
Of Course it's me! And I am all for research for a worthy cause! keep in-touch :)
Keep looking. More and more black women date and marry white guys. I have seven brothers, four are married to white women (contrary to your observation that blackmen love them and leave them). Two brothers date white women, and the seventh brother will date whatever. My daughter only dates white men. She has a beautiful red-headed girl and the father is nowhere to be found. My sister has been dating a white dude for two years.
Growing up, our father used to preach: stick to your own race. He was from the south and understood the potential danger.
Me, I like brown sugar. But if I met a white, blue, purple or pink man and we hit it off, I'd date him.
I think I understand why my siblings went white. Simply put, in Port Angeles, that's all there used to be. I did ask one brother many many years ago. His opinion doesn't hold true today, but he said white women are more subservient than black women.
PashaS— Will do. Thanks for coming by to visit. I enjoyed it.
Die'Dre'— I'm not sure the brother from many many years ago would be off even today. I have heard that from several people in this thread. White girls are easy.
Well, I appreciate you coming by to visit and leaving us your point of view.
Unless what? Surely you're not suggesting *I'm* the one who hates something. Wait, you're right, I do hate something. I hate being made to feel as though I am not worth the same as another simply because my skin happens to be darker.
And yes, I am fully aware that race comes up in percentages and politics and many other things - do you know why? Because people refuse to realize that it really DOESN'T MATTER. The color of one's skin should make no difference in anything; it is only brought up with a negative connotation and yes, it is offensive because it is unnecessary.
As far as the white man or the black woman that may be alone, they too probably subscribe to the same ludicrous notion that people should marry within their own race and that is their problem. They also need to stop seeing color and see the person beyond it.
mstopvega— I surely did not imply that anybody's worth was tied up in their skin color, nor do I think so. I'm making an observation here about dating and breeding. There is something going on with this disparity, either psychological or sociological. It doesn't change anybody's worth. That's a pretty big boulder on your shoulder. But I wouldn't imply that other people are saying or thinking what they are not. You're saying this issue is taboo for discussion. Fine. I accept that as your point of view.
This is a very interesting topic. Where I live there are both black men with white women and black women with white men. I think it is a good thing. For one reason, racial discrimination has been cut because more and more people have biracial relatives. This makes it harder to discriminate. Secondly, this gives individuals a chance to realize that they are no different from the people that they have been brought up to believe are bad or that the should stay away from for what ever reason.
I guess I am the exception. All of my children are African-American-Indian. Their father is 1/4 Cherokee and I am 1/16 Black Foot. We are both African-American.
So I suppose biracialism does not just extent to black and white any more. There are so many nationalities and combinations of nationalities that sooner or later there will be no difference to speak or think of. Now that would be wonderful.
How I stumble on things like this god only knows. However I do have an opinion. The key to this is quite simply white girls are curious and black guys want a trophy squeeze. I actually will refer to the bible when I say that couples now days are socially depraved. Would this be a concern to anyone if socially we dated but never had sex before marriage? This "curiosity" turns into mixed raced babies with only one parent because generally speaking hook ups rarely result in marriage.
I want to know how you wrote this hub 200 years ago!
Who cares? I mean, are we looking for "racial purity" here or something? I'm Irish/American Indian, so does this mean I should marry an Anglo saxon? Or French woman?
Please, if anyone is really concerned about this issue, it's obvious they have a racist streak and nee to go post on some KKK or neo-nazi board.
Thanks for the Interesting reading James, Race is always a touchy subject no matter what form it comes in but how you interpret it as an individual always makes interesting reading. I am polynesian from the South Pacific living in Sydney, Australia and i have dated white woman all my life.
wscott1971 has probably summarized everything in his comments and i have agree with alot of his points. Keep up the great Hub.
I love your post James and thought that it was somewhat ironic. I actually wrote about the very nature of your question a few weeks back. Keep in mind, it's from my perspective; but a lot of other individuals felt that how I portrayed it was pretty much how most of them felt. If you want to read it, it's here : http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-Do-Black-Men-Like-Whit
Thanks
elideneed34— I hear you. There are certainly positive aspects of this blending. And it creates a lot of pretty people, too. Thank you very much for your wise words.
Opposition— I think you have hit on something. I do think that much opposition comes from all these fatherless babies. You may know that 78% of black babies are born out of wedlock. I do think that interracial couples getting married is less of an eyebrow-raiser than just hooking up and making babies. That's a good point. Thank you for your keen insights.
Sara Tonyn— Well, I am immortal. That's the only possible explanation. I really liked your profile except the pantheist part.
Jawa Lunk— I am sorry you feel this way. I don't belong to either one of those tribes. Which reminds me of Crocodile Dundee when he comes to New York for the first time from the outback and meets his first black American. He says, "Hey mate! What tribe you from?"
polystylz— That's an interesting handle. I thought about going with polymath at first.
You are welcome. I also think wscott1971 did a nice job with his insights. Thank you very much for visiting and for your comments.
ShyneIV— I tried to go read your Hub but a big sign came up saying it no longer exists. Well, you are welcome and thank you for your compliments. Let me know if the Hub comes back on line. I'd like to read it.
Watch the eye-opening film "Good Hair" by Chris Rock. In it, many Black men stated that they date white women because whitre women allowed them to touch their hair. They felt that Black women are in accessible with the straightened and weave hairdos they pruchase at high cost that restricts touching. I think it must hurt, too, becuase of the tight cornrowa needed as a foundation and the sewing in of the hairpieces that makes the scalp rather stretch tighter.
No its not sideways but it is kinda of tight.
Curious, you said little about all those times when WHITE slave owners would pay nightly rapes to THEIR Black slave girls.
Maybe you don't understand. Many will never understand, and this article doesn't help.
Pasha, but i LOVE him and i DONT care what other people think, i just know it will bother my parents and could never tell them, but i really do love him, and I myself am not racist i ould care less wwhat color he was. I cant break up with him though because we're fine now, its just the future when marriage comes that worries me because of my parents. ut i have bveen dealing with it, and its wored out great. We see eachother every weekend, my friends get along with him and we call eachother every night, we have a very healthy relationship and i'd hate to ruin that.
Good gosh! What difference does it make whose making a baby with who. I am a black women and have dated plenty of white men. My family also has bi-racial children, I feel we should love all people no matter what the color, or who their dating or making babies with.
Sorry about that, I didn't put in the full link. Here you go
Patty Inglish, MS— I am honored to receive you here in my humble Hub. I haven't had a visit from such a distinguished guest in the past. Thank you for coming. I will watch that film. I had not heard this angle before. I appreciate the illumination.
Wow James, great hub! The comments are fantastic as well. Very diverse mix of commentary mixed in here. I can say that I see and have seen my share of inter-racial couples of both varieties. It used to bother me, but totally a none effect on me now. However, when I'm with a female friend that happens to be an attractive White woman, we often enjoy people watching for reaction. I must agree with the guy that said the race that tends to have the greater issue is the female's race. Very interesting comments in here, too many for me to give them all justice. I have a mixed bag of opinion here, I'll share them:
1. Years ago I was told by a friend that the more radical Black men justified their thirst for White women by saying it was a way of taking her away from the White man. This outdated theory supports the "demographic genocide" train of thought.
2. I moved from Detroit to Janesville, WI in the late 90s. J'ville is infamous for their population of skinheads, and had been fighting to defeat the stigma. This opened the floodgates and it was a new thing to be allowed to date inter-racially. It was a rarer occasion to see a black couple, than it was to see a mixed couple. Everyone had their racial preference, and that was that. You either liked Black women, White women, Black men, or White men, and there was no breaking the chain! It was an atmosphere that I would attribute to "the forbidden fruit" theorem.
3. The Western standard of beauty. Beauty as it is define through media decides what women are most attractive to men of all walks. The women on television, in movies, in magazines, and newspaper ads all support the same standard of "what's beautiful". This standard was established years ago, when the Black woman was portrayed as an old maid unless she was fair skinned and had straight hair like the White woman. The White woman was always sought after by the leading man. There's a great hub I read about how this standard has spread beyond America, and into other regions like India and Arabic nations. You can see it here: http://hubpages.com/hub/Bollywood-Beauty-and-Colon
4. Fetish. Some people would like to satisfy a fetish. Some just want an opportunity to taste the fruit of other trees. The White tree, the Black tree, the Latino tree, the Asian tree...
5. Just plain old boy meets girl and we so happen to be from different worlds. Yes, it happens too.
I am no expert and don't claim to be, this is just a small picture of some of the things I've seen along my travels.
I'd like to make a baby with my new girl, Alicia Keys. Unfortunately, the baby would probably get my looks, and none of Alicia's musical talent.
bill yon— Might need a shoehorn.
Hi-Jinks— Well . . . that was just tad before my time. Do I really look that old? This is not a historical Hub. But I did note that one of the theories is that this phenomena is paybacks to "massa."
HCOvolleyballbabe— This brings up a good question. If a parent of any race or ethnicity, white, black, Jewish, Italian, Asian, Latino, desires their child to marry "one of their own kind" does that automatically make them a racist?
adrienne2— Some people do care, especially when there are huge social ramifications to millions born to the unwed, disengaged from their baby daddys. This is a problem. But of course you are right: we do need to love everybody. Well said and well true. Thank you for your comments.
ShyneIV— I got it and it is a good article. Thanks for the link.
T_Augustus— Thank you! Man, you're right, the comments have been from all sorts of angles. I love it. At the rate things are going, biracial babies combined with abortion and childless women may well be demographic suicide. That's an excellent point about the Western standard of beauty. The link didn't work, though, at least for me.
Your comments are great. I enjoyed reading them and I appreciate you for making them here. Thanks for visiting.
Johnny Plankton— That would be most unfortunate. That is one fine looking woman. Talented, too. Good luck with her. :)
Hi James. I have often spoken of my wife and how very much I love her. I was married before and she was a white woman. I get tickled when I hear that people think that it proves I'm not a racist simply because I am married to a woman of color. I tell them that racism is much more complicated than that. I am not a racist because of the Spirit of God in me. He is the one that created us all and made us come from one set of common parents. He is the one that has given His blessing to the union of every race. He commands us to go into the world and love everyone to Jesus. The enemy is the one that wishes division and hatred and distrust.
no body— Amen! That is surely the Devil's work. Thanks for your fine comments.
good work in here!!
unclesam— Thank you to the lady from India!
I found out why the link didn't work...it was cut off at the end. This one will work.
T_Augustus— Thank you for the new link. I'll read it in the morning. Ciao
I've been meaning to read this hub, James. My apologies on joining in on the festivities so late, as there are some really interesting comments here from just about every scope of the HubPages community!
A few of my friends and friends of my family are biracial. From them, I've noticed that yes, the fathers are the ones that are African American in each case and that in each, the children almost always side with their father's race, in that way they are not as ridiculed. They have all talked about the problems they've had, but I think that in the near future, there will be more biracial children in America.
What bothers me more than anything is the amount of children born out of wedlock and not so much the biracial children that are born, as it causes a host of problems in a myriad of ways. Haven't these kids heard of birth control? Or is it that they are so irresponsible as to not take the necessary steps in preventing unwanted pregnancies (and what about STD?) It really does drive me nuts, as I considered myself pretty irresponsible as a teenager, but managed to escape my teenage-years without becoming a father!
Anyhow, thank you for letting me vent. Thanks for writing this hub, as I'm sure many share your sentiments and many more don't!
dohn121— You are right on time. You are welcome to vent here anytime. I agree with you. The illegitimacy and divorce have shattered the family structure in our country and it is the kids who pay since all studies show they don't do nearly as well as kids from a home with their two natural parents. Not even close. It seems like people—besides me and you—would care but most don't seem to be concerned. 80% of American adults have had or have a STD. That is astounding! Don't get me started!
Thanks for coming and leaving your comments.
quietnessandtrust says:
3 weeks ago
On a writing spree eh James?
Another good one here sir. =)
There is a GOD given reason why HE is against inter racial marriages.
I am sure that comment will get loads of ridicule and scorn.
~Shalom