BANS (Build a Niche Store) vs phpBay - Review: which is best?
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Recently, I decided to try building an eBay affiliate website with BANS. You can read about my experience in my Build a Niche Store Review - which also explains what building a niche store means, for those who don't know!
As I said in that article, I'm concerned that the BANS concept may not have "legs". In the fast-moving world of the internet, you see the same pattern again and again - a new idea for "making money online" pops up, and the people who leap on the bandwagon early do well. But eventually, the idea gets too popular for its own good, the market is flooded and the income dies - either because there's too much competition or because Google decides to penalise it, or both.
In fact, the BANS designers seem to recognise that pattern, because the software is designed for speed: they encourage you to throw together large numbers of basic storefronts fast, with just enough content to disguise them as "real" websites - so you can ride the BANS wave before it runs out.
Personally, I'd prefer to go for longer tail business. I wanted to build a real website with rich content that readers would want to come back to, and BANS didn't let me do that - so the hunt was on for an alternative. And I found one - phpBay.
How are BANS and phpBay different?
1. What they do
BANS creates a website where you can list eBay products, then lets you add some content. In a way, phpBay is the opposite - it lets you pull listings from eBay and display them on your existing website or blog.
2. What they cost
phpBay is half the cost of BANS, and there is even a free version (phpLite). In fact it's a good idea to start with phpLite, because if you decide you like it, you can upgrade to phpBay with ease - when I did it, I didn't even have to modify any of the phpLite scripts on my blog posts. They all still worked!
Just be aware that on the "Lite" version, you can't choose the "available to" option for your listings, which is a useful feature.
3. eBay listing options
With BANS, you choose which country you want to list items from, then you customise your listings by entering keywords. Your listings will show items from that country only.
With phpBay, you can list from just one country, but you also have the option of a dropdown box so your reader can choose their own country's version of eBay - meaning that no matter where your visitor comes from, they can use your site.
You can also choose to list items "available to" a country, instead of just items listed on that country's eBay site. That's an important difference for many eBay users. For instance, a British coin collector might have to pay a lot for an old Indian rupee in the UK, but he could pick one up fairly cheaply from India. A collector of modern French glassware is going to be keen to see glassware from French sellers, not just British ones. In fact, being able to access overseas listings is exactly what makes eBay so attractive to collectors.
I'll give you an example from my own store. When I tried to list belly dancing swords on my BANS site, I got no listings - because there are no sword sellers on eBay Australia. But with phpBay, I specified "items available to Australia", not just "items on eBay Australia", and got a whole page of items!
How do you build your site?
Of course, there is a catch with phpBay. With BANS, you can build your site in a day, even if you know next to nothing about the internet. Everything is spelled out step by step, they have a great forum, and the process is fairly simple. If you're content to add some simple text for your content, you're done and dusted in no time. Then all you have to worry about is driving traffic to your site.
If you use phpBay, you'll need a website or blog to add phpBay to - so if you don't already have one, you have some skills to master.
I set up my site using Wordpress. I found it relatively easy to use, but there was definitely a learning curve. It took me longer to set up than my original BANS store - and even longer to tweak it! However, I'm much happier with the end result compared to the BANS version, and I'm more confident that I have an idea which will generate return traffic.
You'll find it at www.bellydanceoz.com - I'm still building content, but the eBay listings are all set up.
For more information on what you'll need, and some tips and tricks on being an eBay affiliate, check out embitca's Hub on the eBay Affiliate Program.
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All text copyright Marisa Wright. eBay photograph courtesy of pbo31 on Flickr.
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Comments
Good article, Marisa. Nice balance of pros and cons. Look forward to more articles on your experiences with this.
Very well done Marisa,
great and clearly concise article, just when I needed it. Though I still don't know where to go????
Inspirepub, I agree that I'm undecided about the earnings potential. That's one of the reasons I favour phpBay. It gives me the best of both worlds - I'm having fun developing the content, while still having the eBay affiliate store running in the background.
Good article, Marisa.
Interesting Marisa: what's the key difference of the paid version of php versus the lite version? I think the main advantage of eBay is that it isn't Adsense: therefore you diversify your income streams!
Lissie, the paid version has a host of extra features which I haven't even attempted to understand. But the feature I bought it for was that "available to" option. My target market are actively looking for product from overseas that can be shipped to Australia, so BANS and phpLite simply couldn't present what they were looking for.
Ah you got the comments working again: you're right that is a very handy feature particularly for obscure items such as swords and dance gear!
With phpbay, you are limited by your imagination. I realy like the shop in the front and blog/articles based on long tail keywords in the background... to bring traffic in the shop.
There are many ways to put content in the wordpress. I like to create content in txt files and use another tool in the market to post in scheduled manner.
Don't forget that it is wordpress + plugins... No limitation. Really
I didn't know any of this. Wow, thanks so much for the work. I have to read this again and the Build a Niche Store Review.
An excellent review, Marisa. I am interested in BANS, but it does seem to have a limited shelf life. I like the idea of trying phpLite for free, and it could fit in well with my existing content websites.
P.S. I love your belly dancing site! It shows what can be achieved with thought and effort using a Wordpress blog, without any expensive web design software.
Thanks Caspar, glad you like the site!
I don't necessarily agree that BANS has a limited shelf life. I have been really pleased with my BANS sites, and the traffic they get continues to grow. I do think that a lot of people bought BANS and then threw up loads of pretty awful sites thinking perhaps that they'd make money fast. Perhaps they did make some, but poorly designed sites usually don't have legs. I put thought, research and energy into each site and provide visitors with real information, not just stuff for sale. That has paid off for me, and I continue to create more BANS sites.
BANS can be expanded and is a good starting point. If you are selling as an affiliate you should ask yourself if your site has added value for your niche. That will bring potential buyers back again and again. Content is still KING.









Inspirepub says:
5 months ago
I am yet to be convinced there is real money in being an eBay affiliate, but I definitely agree with you the BANS model has a limited lifespan!