CAR REVIEWS? GROUND CLEARANCE?

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By Mbshine


WHERE IS 'GROUND CLEARANCE???'

 

I am one of those few but growing number of Americans who actually lives in the outback where 4WD and AWD vehicles are mandatory. Years ago along with horsepower and body trim the truck and car manufacturers used to feature "ground clearance" as a normal statistic in brochures and advertising.

At the point where I was ready to give up after searching the Web, I finally spotted some good reviews of AWD nad 4WD models by Cars.com columnist Mike Hanley. But, alas, no grouoned clearance. So once again your Don Quiijote of the Cyberworld felt the need to send him this note:

Mike :

thanks for the good work but...I am puzzled... you and other auto writers seem to have now realized--what many of us in rural American know..that lack of AWD or 4WD options is often a deal killer in new and used car purchases--even, yes, above and beyond mileage...(estimates 27% of new sales are awd or 4wd and rising) Now...hang with me here...I doubt if am alone in the rather significant correlation (okay, not huge but significant) between people who want and need 4WD or at least AWD and issues of ground clearance. My wife and I seem to be in a perpetual state of vehicle shopping. We have now taken to looking UNDER the car first. We have learned ridiculous things. For example: the good looking and highly touted Toyota FJ seems to have a tailpipe and muffler configuration on one side that hangs down lower than the bottom of the differential. For 8 months of the year it would be scraping the mud, snow, and ice on our crowned driveway; the tiny Scion A (Xa?) which I don't believe is available in AWD when parked next to a Jeep Wrangler actually had a HIGHER ground clearance to my eye, with factory tires, than the Jeep. We have come close to leasing or buying an H3 simply on the ground clearance issue, but during a white out blizzard two years ago in Denver we noticed that our 4WD Ford Escape with the larger engine, 16 inch wheels, and studded mud-ice tires, cleared some areas where two Hummers were stuck in snow drifts....F 150s are good but not great....AWD Subaru sedans are really popular for highway snow and ice conditions up here, but when loaded with passengers have the usual clearance problems... So....how come auto writers never mention ground clearance? How come the spec summaries and even many of the sales brochures in the showroom never mention ground clearance? We get turning radius, headroom, cubic feet behind the driver's seat, 0 to 60 in X seconds...but no clearance... You would be doing many Americans a service if REGARDLESS OF PRICE AND MODEL you wrote about the trade off between clearance and stability, rollover issues, relationships of clearance and wheelbase, and the cars and trucks with standard tires (or those where larger tires will NOT void warrantees) when measured from the tippy tip of the differential housing bottom to a flat pavement have the highest center clearance.. whew...I feel better.....thanks Mark Scheinbaum chief investment strategist http://www.lf-financial.com/ near Angel Fire, NM at 9,000 feet

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M.Gary Nordlund  says:
8 months ago

I am another perplexed shopper wondering why the ground clearance is not addressed in many reviews and brochures. Being able to tackle the ice and deep snow is very important to a lot of people including myself.

Another issue I would like addressed is WHY don't more car manufacturers make heated seats available in more models with cloth seats??????

I can not find a suitable new vehicle that provides both. Until I do I will drive my old car. Any suggestions?

mbshine  says:
8 months ago

you almost have to customize it yourself...F 150s and similar trucks are dirt cheap so you might fix one up to your specs...I just bought a used dodge ram 4x4 1500...got studded mud/ice tires...it has good clearance andheated mirrors...Iwill hve my mechanic put in my own remote starter and oil heater and you can buy heated or cooled slipcover pads for the seats....I think so many people buy these suvs and trucks to look macho that the tiny percentage of americans who really care about good balance and good ground cloearance in a 4wd are ignored by Detroit....but then again many of them are going bust! thanks for reading

ms

Stepnahalf  says:
6 months ago

As an experienced 37 years+ woods and desert driver for work and hunting, I should add there are 2 kinds of ground clearance issues for driving pickups and other SUV types. One is the single object (large rocks, deep ruts, semi-truck tire debris) clearance for mainly the front and less so for rear differentials. The other is the center frame clearance for unlevel surfaces that happens for high dirt "waterbars", raised curbs leaving parking lots, deep snow. The latter is more a problem for longer wheel basis truck-like vehicles, and is a big problem with the new Detriot pickups' protruding cross members' tranny guards (esp. Chevy and Ford). Short wheel based vehicles are not effected that much, like Jeeps or Subarus. KNOW the differential clearance is more important $$$ repair-wise. Center frame clearance should at least be a few inches higher than at the differentials, esp the more damage prone front. The skid guards there are getting lower and thinner over the years. All these reasons are why am keeping my old 1979 Chevy K-20 4x4 factory high clearance design and refuse to buy a new one, despite the 11-14 MPG. Gets me out and back reguardless of crummy road conditions. Rescued stuck old Toyota landcruiser with it.

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