Coming to Terms with Being a 'Bitch'
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I don't know if I should be proud of it, honestly, or not, but I've spent most of my life never hearing the "B" word directed at me--and being glad of it.
For one, it is the kind of word culturally, at least from where I come from (which is not that high of place, after all, but which is probably more middle class/middle American in outlook than I'd imagine) carries with it the connotation of both the speaker and the object for which it is intended as being crude.
Used among the kind of people who'd also string a few F-you's along in a sentence when neither the occasion or the tone calls for it--there being more than a fine line between the musical, metrical "F-you" used in David Mamet's play "American Buffalo" and the kind of verbal repartee you might from see from guests on "The Jerry Springer Show," after all.
Also, there is the satisfaction, I suppose some of us always had in being "the good girl," the one who always did her homework, her housework, did well at school, was looked at as being a decent friend, a decent employee, moderate towards everyone, and never in any serious trouble, blah, blah, blah...
Usually, as well, being "the good girl," carries with it something of a looks and demeanor thing. Attractive, relatively reserved women are rarely identified as being 'bitches.'
Which I suppose is all a good thing, right?
Right--I suppose.
And I do have to 'fess up that there was the one little time that my college boyfriend, in a fit of rage (can't remember the details now) over a car, threw the keys at me and uttered the "B" word. I might as well own up to that, right?
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Definitions
There is the Webster's definition of a 'bitch,' and then there is the cultural definition.
Webster's says the word 'bitch,' directed towards a female is "1 : the female of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals, 2 a : a lewd or immoral woman, b : a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman —sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse."
Andi Zeisler, editor of Bitch, a magazine that deals with women's issues, notes that there is the real definition; the culturally sanctioned definition of the word. She says, "Bitch is a word we use culturally to describe any woman who is strong....(expresses anger)...(is) uncompromising, and often, uninterested in pleasing men. We use the term for a woman on the street who doesn't respond to men's catcalls or smile when they say, 'Cheer up, baby, it can't be that bad.' We use it for a the woman who has a better job than a man and doesn't apologize for it. We use it for the woman who doesn't back down from a confrontation."
I've Become a Big Ol' Bitch, Evidently
It's always easy on the street, especially if you are practiced at walking--and I am a veteran walker. Walk tall, dress well, hold your head up and pretend you don't hear a thing. The best solution, especially when confronted with a very physical (yet verbal) variety of bitch-slapping or hassling. This approach usually gets you to work or whatever destination in one piece and without nasty confrontations, and is yet another principle used by the "good girl."
By all means, do not respond to cat callers, general abusers who yell at you on the street, or those who approach you asking what your jean size is. In this way, with you remaining above the fray, you protect yourself, and also, those who are displaying this kind of behavior--an unfortunate fact, but also true. However, it is also true that you need to get to your job in one piece physically and emotionally in order to make a living.
Some may see where I am going here.
For quite a few years, and thankfully for me, I've made my living expressing myself--though definitely in my thoughts, it has been far from perfect. I would prefer to be able to fine art or literary writing and make a living solely from that, for instance. I would have a Phd or terminal MFA. Instead, I've primarily worked as a designer or as a writer with an easier time getting paid--I've written grant proposals, copy, and lesson plans, in example. All of which is pretty product driven--and usually has been well received as such. Another way to say it, is that these things I've written professionally are hardly controversial, and even though the voice behind those products may express itself strongly (I believe that to be a writer's talent), the voice itself was never an issue.
Enter the internet age, and my time on Hubpages. I realize I have been living in a fool's paradise. I've never heard myself termed as a 'bitch' or a 'condescending bitch' or various variants on any other format other than the Hubpage forums. And I realize it has to be my writer's voice--a voice that comes across closely echoing my thoughts and ideas about politics and social issues, especially. A voice that really isn't concerned (or at least much less concerned) with the realities on the street, so to speak. A voice that isn't much interested in flirtation online...especially not overtly or crudely and especially not with just anyone and especially not just because its 'expected.'
Zeisler talks about the title of her magazine, "Bitch," and relates that there was never another name on the table at any time when they started the publication in 1996. She and her co-editor write about co-opting the term linguistically for a hopefully positive effect in much the same way that women involved in alternative sports like skateboarding and surfing and women in the arts have tried to re-purpose the term "Girlz," as in "Skategirlz" and "Gorillagirlz."
Probably, that is what I'm doing with the term here, for myself. I have the habit, if something troubles me, to break it down into parts, confront it, and sometimes after doing so, laugh about it--somewhat in the way I'd say that the ancient Greeks, who after all, invented comedy, approached human mortality and other perfidy to evoke a response with plays.
Of course, "Bitch," the magazine was started over 10 years ago. Since that time, the word has become so omniscient that many people think its OK to use in public discourse, without the tinge of sexual harassment, or the idea of it being a bad word. Whenever the word does surface to the front page of the news media, however, Zeisler is engaged in the same discussion, one she wearies of.
Is it still a bad word?
"Of course it is," she says. "As young women who had been bombarded with the word for, say, daring to walk down the street in tank tops, we knew what kinds of insults would be hurled when we started publishing articles on sexism in consumer and popular culture."
"We hoped that we could reclaim it for mouthy, smart women....as Lisa (her co-editor) wrote in the magazine's mission statement, 'If being an outspoken woman means being a bitch, we'll take that as a compliment, thanks.'"
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You seem like a nice, talented person to me. By any chance Were you called a bitch by a troll? I called the forum troll a troll this week and was suspended again for three days. I'll take a bitch over a troll any day.
All a bitch is, is a bee with an itch lol
i don't quite what is being said here......
Hi Lita - I saw that thinly veiled comment, some time after the event. I was not impressed, in the slightest - that particular Hubber has now lost my respect. There is no call for speaking to a woman like that :)
Exactly Sufi, and incidentally, Blondepoet and I are still awaiting the prawns
Er....Just a minute...I have to go and do something really, really important.
hahahahaha scared you away, wait until Blonde chases after you again with her happy juice enema
can someone enlighten me please
Hi, guys...Hi lorraine--could be I was writing this in a hurry and didn't flush everything out perfectly. I've gotta run, though. Off to an event. But yes, it was initiated by being called a bitch in the forums by trolls and also one I just thought was an ordinary person, lol. I'll follow up with you later. :) Thanks all, for your comments.
Cindyvine: I had the prawns, and was happily walking back through the mountains. I enjoyed the sensation of the warm and benevolent sun on my face, as I passed through the olive groves, their leaves a shimmering silvery sea in the caressing mountain breeze.
Suddenly, shrieking voices dragged me from my soporific philosophizing and transient daydreams of dancing poet-nymphs. In a heartbeat, I was suddenly surrounded by Psariakiakleftes, the infamous Greek, fish-stealing fairies. I turned to flee, but was beaten into submission by wicked ethereal creatures wielding crabstick maces and spiny stickleback spears.
As I collapsed into a bloodied heap, like an African Antelope beset by vicious lions, they stole the prawns and disappeared amongst the olive trees, laughing at my misfortune. Wounded, I dragged my wretched frame back home, lamenting the cruel fate that befell me. Sadly, I am now afeared to leave the house, so could not get any more prawns.
Sufi have you been at the greek what's it called now ouzo....... who called her a bitch???
The usage has definitely changed over time. Years ago I was shocked when some guys younger than me suggested we go "pick up some bitches." Now 'bitch' is all over the place. It is still a negative, dehumanizing term, though, I think?
all girls call it to each other though, even if it is only under there breath, and we all are bitches if the truth be known, about each other...... we just can't help it
Lorraine - I could not possibly name the guilty party, although it will not be too hard to find. Lots of comments on this Hub should keep bumping it up in the Hubtivity :)
Hey Lita, I like you! Stay as bitchy as you are and you'll go far! LOL!
No, seriously, why is it that opinionated women get called 'bitches' but opinionated men are just opinionated men? I've often wondered if I'd get the same amount of hate mail, or the same kind of hate mail, if I used a male pseudonym and an avatar.
I especially find the online flirting thing weird, especially when people use avatars, but whenever, really. I mean, what is that about? I honestly don't get it. It's all imaginary but somehow disturbing and juvenile all at the same time.
There are half a dozen or so people who like to use the forums at HP these days who I personally find to be creepy and unpleasant, so I don't go there as much as I used to. I mean, they talk to you and you feel like you need a shower--like you just went mud-wrestling with Nazis or something.
Also, I can't believe RALPH got a forum time out! That's just unbelievable. I'm sure whoever he called out deserved it and more.
This place is just getting weirder all the time.
i have been looking through her hubs, silly me it was in the forums..... right. I agree with pgrundy it is puzzling at times for sure
If I had to do it all over again, I'd be called a bitch a lot more. Bitches rule!
Thank you Lita for warning me to be careful out here, I didn't know you were having so much trouble...what is a troll?
Hey Lita, bitchen hub! LOL! It's true that the word "bitch" has lots of usages! Personally I hate the term, unless it's used in comedy or I'm using it! However if trolls or others are actually calling people bitches that is pretty low! You should probably consider the source and think of it as a compliment!
When I worked for a large corporation, we gave classes on how to effectively write memos and e-mails without sounding 'bitchy'. It was time well spent, and I learned that whether we are aware of it or not, we can write in a tone that offends others. Good Hub!
Lita,
Intereseting Hub, I wish I had time to catch up on the forums to know what prompted this piece of work, I am travelling to San Diego this weekend, if you would like I could always visit this person. :-)
TMG
Hey Lita,
I'm not sure what's going on, but somebody definitely crossed 'the tacky line'.
And they are confused. Because a confident, articulate and well-spoken woman (all things you are) is not a... well, anyway.
Debate is debate. When the loser starts name-calling. It's over. They lost.
Sorry this happened to you. I am a new fan that enjoys your material. Please don't change your tone or content.
I agree with Linda Myshrall 100%!
When someone needs to use "names" like these in order to "defend" himself that just means that he isn't capable of having any conversation at all. It's the easy way out and it's a cheap way too.
I enjoy your writing too, a lot, and these kind of incidents are just sad.
When the discussion turns to name calling it's no longer a discussion and time to bail. I seen the comment that was made by one of the biggest trolls on HP and have no respect for him either. I think you're a pretty level headed person Lita, though I may not always agree with your opinion, I certainly wouldn't fault you for having your opinion.
Many of us have walked in similar paths but none of us has walked in another's shoes. Just stay true to yourself because it's you that pays your bills not the trolls.
Good hub, I prefer a title "Royal bitch", for instance. When I am called a bitch,I like to respond with 'yeah, and what's your point?' or 'Thank you, I know I am a beautiful indivisual that causes hard ons', or my favorite is 'I know I am. I can go from zero to bitch in 2.0 and it takes me less time to go from bitch to super bitch.'
Just some of my favorites.
I agree honey.
Franki
Thanks to everyone for the supportive comments.
Ralph- I do not understand it--why they are going this route, I'd say, at all. I did read on a social media guide site that hubpages is slipping in google ranking, as google discovered the articles themselves were also not being moderated. ?
Sufi & Cindy-- Did you take some kind of Greek saga to my hub? :) Sufi...I've given up much posting in the forums, similar to Sweetiepie.
Jess-- Yeah, I think it still is a bad word, otherwise why does it feel bad to be called that on a public forum? I think there is a time and place for swearing, really, lol, like I hint at in the hub...but they should be rare words. I dunno... Thanks.
Pam-- ;) I can tell you that if you had a non-female avatar, the hate stuff would be less. I've also an entire theory about the Limbaugh/Beck aficionados in that regard. You bet it has to do with sex...or the sex of the target. As far as flirting--I mean, OK. I did think it was weird when I was first on here. But there are a few people at times that you are drawn to--a verbal/intellectual attraction. It happens. It shouldn't be EXPECTED. And it isn't something I'm here mainly for...that's like the creep at the bar expecting something just because he approaches you. Thanks, but no thanks. ...and yeah, I think I've no choice but to stay 'bitchy,' lol. Maybe I should just give up writing altogether, to please a couple male trolls. ha ha.
BadCo, :) I've always thought you were a good guy at heart, too. You just get a sense of things. But then MY guy is Irish...so what does that say? Thanks for coming by to be supportive.
Dolores-- lol Yeah. Well, see--I am trying to adjust my definition of 'bitches.' I'm pretty sure before it is all over, I will feel exactly the way you do. Thanks, :)
Deborah-- I didn't know what the term 'troll' was either, until I started writing on here. A troll is somebody who rarely uses their real name, may have a phony profile, whose main purpose is to stir up trouble or nastiness...disrupting legitimate conversation or debate. At least that is my take on it. We've several on Hubpages. Some seem to especially target women...but it could be anybody. My tolerance level is fairly high--I completely believe in free speech. But what they are doing borders on harassment and defamation, frankly.
Kartika-- I don't like the term at all. I've used it (plus the word 'bastard') a few times in my life. But usually that was in regards to someone who was clearly vindictive and being cruel and meant to harm--like a woman who was trying to have me fired from a job & picked a new victim from each set of new hires. NOT for a difference in political or other opinion & not because someone frankly, expresses themselves strongly in a verbal way. ...sigh. Miss Iowa sometimes. :)
jiberish-- Thanks for the comment, lol. But you realize, as the staff writer/public relations person in a corporation, I would be qualified and probably would be the one teaching those classes. I guess maybe anything, including the sentence I just wrote could be offensive to some, even though it is a fact. Maybe you can see where I am going with this? Even though we disagree politically?
TMG! Thanks for the visit. Good old fashioned chivalry, huh? I'm sure you could 'visit' these types both verbally...and otherwise, and they'd remember you. So--since when are Indians blond? :) I saw your other photo on the Drop Out Nation blog.
Linda-- Agreed. I enjoy debate, and I know who the good debaters here are. Debate has disintegrating on the forums for a while here. And thanks very much for the compliments, I appreciate it, :).
WC--Don't mean to take your enjoyment out of joining Hubpages. There are many great people here, interested in so many different things. It's only recently that things--and this mainly (at least from my perspective)on the forums--have gotten a little weird. I see you've met Sufi, from Greece, also. lol. Thanks for being supportive.
livewithrichard-- You are right. It does pay the bills. That's one of the coolest comments I've heard. Thanks, :). And the thing is--those with good arguments, who express themselves well without crossing the line are always respected, no matter what their viewpoint. It would be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything. That's the point of debate/discussion. Thanks.
Franki-- LOL You've got the 'bitch' thing down. I like how you express yourself! :)
Lita, I was a corp trainer, and I was the one teaching the class. You may then be aware of some very offensive material that has to be corrected by secretaries.
Haha. No, I'm afraid not. I'm aware some execs cannot write and are sometimes unaware of some things (he's a good guy, tho), and that they then turn their letters over to the staff writer to make them sound appropriate, and that the secretaries turn letters over, too. Not trying to defend myself (hey, I wrote a big hub claiming that yes, apparently, I am a big ol bitch), but do you really think as a trainer, that I'd be allowed to handle communications and pr if I really, really was offensive? Or that one of my books, albeit a young adult book, handling the legal case of a famous rape in history would sometimes be used as a source in adult theses?
Hey, it's cool. And a 'match' was not exactly the point of this hub or of my comment to you either, lol.
hey lita,
great hub, although surely you know i disagree with the description of your new image.
besides the hub itself, you've done something groundbreaking here: a discussion can be made without the troll(s) showing their faces, along with their poor attempts at grasping the english language.
it's unfortunate that ralph is being made a scapegoat. seemingly, hp's downward slide continues.
regarding that non-female avatar - hate relationship, i beg to differ. i've had more than my share, but it's so enjoyable. throw in a couple of three syllable words and their true colors rise to the surface.
lastly, is it maybe because we use our real names?
I think Blue Dog is on to something with the real names thing. It seems like the nastiest people hide behind screen names and avatars. I doubt most of them would have the guts to say any of this crap to my face, in person, where I can see who THEY are too.
I really don't like it here as much as I did at first, and it's totally the troll thing.
Lita, I was just commenting on what you said, that anything could be considered offensive to some. Not a match, sorry if you mis-understood.
Tho I never been called one..my Definiton B.eautiful.Individual.That.Creates.Haters..=B.I.T.C.H
I have been called a bitch and more recently a BEEEYOTCH since about seventh grade. It has never bothered me. Everytime I've been bitchy it's been justified bitchiness. And now I hear people also calling men bitches and etc. So it has ceased to mean what it did before and now just kind of means "uppity and in your face" which can be very good, even necessary!
This is one of the most compelling hubs I've read. So thanks, bitch, would you like another bitch to join your fan club?
Thanks for the great reference post..
The forum is bizarre, and I will leave it at that. Good the White House took at stand and called Fox news out for what it is, a news station that pretends to report on the news. Of course I saw people going crazy on the forum and other forums about how the White House is practicing censorship by expressing those views, but I will have to counter those accusations with a resounding no. Censorship would be shutting Fox down and not allowing them to broadcast or have an online presence, and if anything I am glad to have a president that actually can stand up to all the ridiculous comments out there.
Lately I have been seeing some weird parallels between some of the members of the Tea Party and those who embraced Hitler in Nazi Germany. Both came to birth during poor economic times, and both had many members that are troubled by a less than white populace. Ironically the Tea Baggers were the ones calling Obama a Facsist and Hitler, but time and time again I hear people from the Tea Party saying things similar to what Hitler and his followers say. I heard about one white supremcist who accused most Latinos in his community of being illegal aliens and how they should be shipped back to Mexico, and guess what party he belonged to? Of course on the forum there are a few who gloat about Glenn Beck and the 9/12 movement, and I have no time for such ignorance anymore. Let them continue on with their misinformed propaganda, and their negative thoughts can stay with them.
As for the online flirting it is truly bizarre. Awhile back I wrote a hub called the wandering eye gone overboard because it was just becoming repulsive to hear married men on the Hubs flirt about how having a mistress is cool, and how they love to flirt with the ladies. To me why get married anyway if you have such a need to flirt. Also, there are better venues for those who want to be flirt magnets such as eharmony, match, plenty of fish, or a Yahoo chat room. Hubpages forums really is not the place for that, but I guess they have an extreme need to let the world know they are horny.
blue dog, thanks for the kind thought. However, I don't think I'm "being made a scapegoat." Also, HubPages isn't in a "downward slide." It continues to attract more users every day--80 million page views and 15 million people per month. It has moved up steadily in the Quantcast rankings where it now is 105, soon to break into the top 100 websites.
Otherwise, I agree with your comment. The trolls do discourage participation in the fortunes. Sometimes I wonder if they are on Squidoo's payroll, sent there to disrupt the dialog while contributing nothing of substance. Oh, I forgot they're big on correcting typos!
Quantcast latest rating: http://www.quantcast.com/hubpages.com/geo#traffic
Hey, Lita, just though I stop in and say "Hi". Don't worry too much about being called a bitch. I'm after all called an asshole, and I'm sure I'm thought of as one far more than I'm called it. At least that's what my fiance tells me.
Don't worry too much about being strong-willed. After all, so am I, and we get along pretty well.
hi ralph,
thanks for the quantcast link, interesting info to come back to. thanks also for correcting me on the "downward slide" comment. although only on the site for a short time, it's been discouraging to watch the evolution of hp during that time, seeing the "vibrant author community", as stated on the quatcast report, being heavy-handed by the trolls who have no other purpose than to lower the level of discourse as they blindly race toward the goal of 100,000 forum posts.
hopefully the ban policy will continue to evolve, allowing such stalwarts as yourself (among those who actively contribute to the success of the "vibrant author community") the freedom of expression so deserved.
lastly, thank you lita, for allowing us to turn your hub into a great discussion.
No apologizes, Lita. Great Hub.
Bitches run the world!
Lita,
Both my Grandfathers were Irish and both Grandmothers were Full Bloods. I never met my Grandfathers really, like all good Irishmen of those days the Whiskey got to them long before I came around.
TMG
I am one proud Beeeotch! lol I have always been told that, and its all good to me! =) good hub!
blue dog/lynn-- You are right. The trolls wouldn't know what to say, except more of the same 'bitch' stuff, would they? That's about the scope of their 'argument.' There in lies the crux of the matter...and, lol, and I know that. But you know the one person you just recently saw I thought was just a normal person...just one I never 'responded' to much, and I believe that was the issue.
Got to disagree, though, about the gender thing. I know that they go after anyone, but I don't think (besides Mark Knowles) they follow you from hub to hub, post to post and make sexually oriented comments.
Pam-- No, they come onto the internet anonymously 'to play.' Cannot say I get it. Must be some unhappy individuals out there. Cannot say why Hubpages doesn't get the difference between that (trolling) and someone calling a spade a spade (or a troll) or trying to put a stop to what amounts to harassment and recognizing it all for what it is. Not that hard. Oh, well.
jiberish-- Oh, well. :) You know what they say about sending out short e-mails or messages. ;) They may be misconstrued as terse.
American Vixen...haha. OK, good definition. Have you been called a 'vixen?'
mega1-- haha. Well, that 'good girl' thing is hard to break. And yeah, being angry IS sometimes necessary. Don't think men get the same caliber of word thrown at them, though.
Thanks, lorlie. From one 'bitch' to another, ;). Got your e-mail.
SP- Well. We've both been through it pretty strongly, haven't we? With the same ones. Your biggest 'non troll' problem hubber is now my strong detractor, too. Maybe he just needs a woman who is a target for angst...since he sorta seems to need all women's adoration or something. It isn't quite normal, imho, what he displays. This last incident freaked me out, so I wrote this hub...scary to think this kind of thing is going around in some mens' heads on an everyday basis, but they feel OK to express it here. I feel similar to when I lived in the city...you don't go out after dark (or into the forums)in some areas. Guess that's why they have those Take Back the Night rallies. lol
I'm glad someone sees the validity in the Obama Admin. calling out Fox for what it is--a propaganda machine. I agree with you--he is doing the right thing.
Ralph-- I heard that there is some kind of weirdo right wingnut agenda to place trolls on perceived liberal forums to disrupt discussion. It seems really odd to me that all these guys seemed to come out of the wood work just a few months ago... I don't care what political persuasion they are--'conservatives' is not the word for them. That word is mentally ill.
LDT-- Yes, we do, :). That's because you are a good debater, and I respect that. It's interesting that I've noticed that even you have had issues with some of these trolls, even though you supposedly share some political values.
Linda-- LOL. Thanks, :)
JCM-- haha. Yeah, I suppose they do.
TMG-- Ah! That explains the blondness. And why you look like Steve Thunder-McGuire, an old art prof. of mine, who is both Indian and Irish/blond.
Pachuca-- I'm adjusting, I'm adjusting. Sounds like you've got it down, lol. Thanks for coming by.
A successful man is called successful and a successful woman is called a bitch. Take it as a compliment as it means that you are a strong, successful woman and they don't know how to deal with you.
I used to have a book called 'Getting in Touch with your Inner Bitch' by Elizabeth Hilts. It's a very funny book, but raises serious issues about how girls are brought up to show what she calls 'toxic niceness' that is actually really damaging to them. It's why women tend to feel they have to be nice to everyone, be responsible for mending broken situations and stay in damaging, violent relationships.
Don't fret about the trolls - it's their problem and their bad karma - what they reap, they will sow.
Lita, Don't let him get to ya! All of corporate America loves "Bitches" and "Assholes" As long as they don't break the law or cause too much turnover, its rewarded!
Thanks, CM-- And I would say that is true. I remember relating to someone how I felt it was my responsibility to make people like me when I was younger. The person I told that to just laughed, I recall. Now that I'm older I see how ludicrous that tape playing in my head was. True story. Thanks for bringing the discussion to a different depth.
CJ-- Too much turnover! lol God forbid I'd ever be responsible for causing someone to lose a job. That isn't about the 'bitchiness' as contained in the hub. That...at least for me...would be a case for lack of ethics and common decency. I'd think they are different things. ? Thanks for commenting.
Hi Lita, it doesn't matter if somebody says you're a bitch or anything else. Let them say what they want. You know in your heart what is true. You seem intelligent, articulate and charming to me. Is that the new defination of bitch? If so, just keep on being yourself.
I'm not exactly sure what goes on in the forums because after a few minutes of trying to read them it gets so confusing my head wants to explode. I tried to respond to one once, but I'm not even sure I did it correctly. Heck, I still haven't figured out how to add pics to my hubs for Pete sake. But I digress, I'd love to read the forum that caused this hub... if somebody was a troll a..hole to you, well they will eventually get theirs, after all you know what they say... Payback is a BITCH!
Amen to that "Disturbia", Payback is a Mo Fo! lol....or bitch! ;)
Heh, I get it from both sides. If I had to label myself, bleh, I'd say I'm a fiscal conservative while being more liberal about society in general.
You said you felt like it was your duty do get people to like you when you were younger, so did I. Did you perchance go to a public school? I have a theory that public schools demand social conformity much more than other educational systems.
Disturbia-- Yeah, it was just shocking the way it was pronounced a couple times. It might be said communicating with some of those in the forum is like speaking a foreign language they don't understand. My feeling is a) they truly don't understand what you are saying, and b) some actually enjoy these kinds of Jerry Springer displays and fights.
Pachuca, ;)
Why, yes, LDT. I did go to a public school. But I recognize at this point I also probably got a superior education (if not, still, what it should have been) comparatively speaking. Middle Midwestern schools are excellent, compared to the rest of the country, from what I've seen. And, lol. I grew up as a Catholic. So we have that in common, too, ;).
No, I think girls (and probably boys, too) always have that pressure to be the high school idea of 'ideal' - pretty, popular, social, cool, blah, blah, blah...even if another (bigger) part of you is artsy, bookish and serious... I could actually go on about this. And how the serious in me won out, though it wasn't the case with my high school friend...and in her quest, basically, to be cool, is now dead. I'm sure boys go through something of the same thing--just a little different.
School, public or private, isn't something I want to subject my kids to. I'm much more a fan of homeschooling. I don't really think I became very educated until I got out of school. They, thankfully, taught me the tools I needed to learn, but I don't think their indoctrination stayed with me too much.
It's been a while since I've seen many of the kids I went to high school with. I'm not too sure I'll like where many of them ended up.
Hi, LDT. Well, I'm kind of a weirdo. I recognized the limitations of high school, testing, cheerleading and indoctrination while still in high school. haha. National Honor Society, too. I remember saying there was no way I'd join if I had to pay a fee, so I didn't join. (See, that bitch in me was always there waiting to get out.)
Homeschooling...I dunno. Socialization isn't a bad thing. I'm honestly not too impressed with these online learning college farm schools that have proliferated in AZ. I'd swear by the real university experience. I would also want to express the limitations of high school level everything to kids, tho, yes.
I've never gotten the whole socialization thing. Maybe it was growing up an Army brat, but I didn't really hang around the people I went to school with, I hung around the other kids in my neighborhood. As for activities, we did soccer, t-ball, cub scouts, boy scouts, etc. Plenty of socialization there, don't you think?
I'm not too much of a fan of online classes either. It's not just the same as sitting down with a good book on the subject or, even better, one on one time with an expert in the field. I'd even agree with the small college classes being a good way to transmit knowledge, but not the huge lecture halls. The closer you get to one on one, the better.
My laptop adapter just died when I was trying to post a message! Ugh.
Anyway, I think home schooling will be an option for some, LDT. Not for the majority. Schools should be more than the warehouses they have become, tho. I agree. And at the Univ. level...it is different for different people. I have no problem with lecture format or small class format. Both have merit. I realize others have had bad experiences in large classes, however.
F***in' Ruthie, F***in' Ruthie, F***in' Ruthie, F***in' Ruthie,F***in' Ruthie!
What?
F***in' Ruthie.
I played that part in Buffalo (Teach). Gawd, I loved it. Like you, Lita, I was raised to never call a woman a b****. See? I never have said it to a woman either. Not to her face. It was odd to me to see it enter popular culture and become so common and often with a different meaning. I think you should look at it that way (though obviously the comment directed towards you was intended in the bad sense).
What they meant to say was: "Yo. You one hawt bee-athch!" No? Well, clearly it was because you are strong and intelligent. Some guys just can't handle that. Oh, and you're good looking too.
I am very much interested in cars new
Chris-- Haha. For a while, after I saw it, I wanted to BE David Mamet. Just love the stylized banter...and yes, the musical F-'s. That reminds me--I only ever wrote one script (and it was for a kids' show). I need to try a play...so, I'll put it on the bucket list, lol.
Well, yeah and yeah. Maybe people here on Hubpages from former Eastern block countries were not raised the same way, if you catch my drift. I'm sure it was for a combo reason.
And thanks, :), for the compliments. Nice to see ya!
Hi, Lita. I just found this hub, and I did happen to see that comment in the forum as well. I will simply repeat what has already been said: if the discussion devolves into name-calling, well, it's not worth the time thereafter. Those who would call names show they've run out of arguments. Most forums are the same in that there are always those who make it a point is to stir things up. Sometimes that's fun, but those same folks should be prepared for a challenge and either take it in stride or prove their argument without childish antics. Good hub.
Thanks, Jeffrey. I think the problem comes with the fact that that, well, there are trolls, but also with the fact there are 2 groups of people essentially on the forum--those who enjoy debate, and those who are out to kinda social network. Not saying that the groups can't and don't interact, but I for one (and there are many others) are not interested in flirting about just for its own sake. Ugh. And then there are some with actual vendettas or something. Really weird. And yes, I've decided it simply isn't worth it to take part in the forums...as I do use my real name, too. Thanks for you comments.
Don't worry too much about it, Lita. I've apparently picked up a stalker of my very own. They joined my fan club and everything. I suspect it's a way to keep better track of what I do on Hubpages. I still find that my anti-troll policy keeps me in good stead, so I'm not too worried about it. I mean, I must be doing something right if someone is willing to spend their life attacking me personally. Oh well.
I do have to admit to taking some pleasure in making snarky comments here and there, sometimes I just can't help myself.
Hey, LDT. Witty and snarky vs. just nasty and foul mouthed - two different things. Dorothy Parker made a career out of the former. The latter is just fit for the sewer or a local loser bar. (Those comments demonstrating the former, hopefully, lol.)
What's really funny (not) is that Hubpages doesn't seem to get the difference.
What's your troll policy?
Lita - I've long enjoyed your posts in the forums, where you've always expressed yourself cogently and respectfully. It's a pity that some trolls have pestered you, but it's one of the pervasive annoyances of the Internet.
Love your hubs and love your forum posts! For every troll calling you a bitch, there are 100 real people who appreciate what you share.
Hi, livelonger. Thanks for the kind post, :). It seems Hubpages has changed quite a bit since when I first started. And I don't use other sites like this--news sites, ie are a bit different when leaving comments. Oh, well! I appreciate you coming by and your comments here...as well as on the forum, always, too.
Liked your hub. I was a bit taken aback years ago when it was said I was not a nice person. Interestingly it was a compliment and not an insult. There is a term my spiritual teacher (yes indeedy) uses: "Nice girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere." And as part of deconstruction and transformation one has to own the bitch within and life means no limits not being custardly nice. So Lita, go for it and I'll join your bitch club because I'm one of them. The stigma attached to being a strong assertive woman is generated more from the feminine side than the male, but the glass ceiling is created by the male. Any wonder Lillith gets annoyed!
Oh I just ignore them, drives them batty. I've noticed that trolls think they're really witty and intelligent, but what they're really after is validation. I dealt with this sort of thing at my last job and made it a point to not reward negative behavior. Worked like a charm if I do say so myself. Ignoring trolls works even better because unlike "my" kids I have nothing emotionally invested in trolls.
good work
Jewels-- LOL I've been annoyed for years, haha. I've perhaps never been around people that would so name it. I have Buddhist leanings...but beyond that, it has been my desire to be as complete a person as possible...and not go crazy, as I have seen many of the women (literally) around me do. Perhaps it should be said I've just never tangled with certain elements in life much, 'til, literally, Hubpages and the trolls. On the street it is necessary and easier to ignore them.
LDT-- Well, I made the mistake one of ignoring a woman (who most normal people would actually deem a bitch) who made a victim of any new person, trying to get the fired from their job. That is to say, I ignored her and haha was pleasant to her. Did not work... Funny how that is with trolls and the power structure--how their behavior is often invisible or for some reason condoned by people in charge (now I'm waxing Libertarian, albeit socialist Libertarian, LDT). This is somewhat true of Hubpage moderators, too.
I didn't mean to say that my policy covers anything but online activities. Online bullying doesn't have the same effect as real life bullying. Mainly because you can ignore the bullies online. All it takes is not responding to posts or automatically deleting emails from them.
Real life bullies, on the other hand, are a different matter entirely. I find that making them think you're willing to go Red Alert Defcon 1 and emptying the missile silos tends to work on those people. Stand up to a bully an they'll go somewhere else.
Incidentally I good friend of mine had a bad self esteem problem. In all areas of her life really. Recently, she went through changes (divorce, new man, etc.) and is a much stronger person than I have ever seen her. Thank God, because I invested a lot of time and effort into building her up, I'm very proud of her that she stuck to it.
So much so that she no longer feeds into her bullying boss anymore. Which is great because I'm happy for my friend and hate this woman's boss with a passion. It's kind of like a twofer.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that, in the end, it doesn't matter what other people think or do, what matters is what you think and do in responding to the world around you. So I don't worry overly much about trolls and such, they'll end up looking for people who validate them. I refuse to do so.
Yeah, LDT. I do agree with you about how a person should think about how they thing and respond to the world around them--to some extent. At some point, however, you (or should I say they) reach a level that ignoring the problem does not help and doesn't make it go away. Though I talk about politics a lot, lol, I've never been one to play politics much, if you know what I'm saying. The least possible and hands off has always been my policy...allowing for everyone's widest range of personal freedom. At this point in my life, I do find myself 'handling' situations. Ignoring, in some sense (and I hint at it in the hub)seems a little like feeding the situation(s), or condoning it, and sometimes, frankly, believing yourself to be of victim status.
In example, I have a situation now, where a certain guard at work (the 'police' or thug mentality) is making a huge deal over a simple procedural concern. For absolutely no reason except to act like a thug (and he is being very rude..pls respect ma authoritae, lol). I've been through enough crap in my work life that I'll be placing some thorns (in this case some well drafted words) to deflate his ego trip before it can go any further and mess with me or someone else. This isn't 'feeding into' anything. It's being proactive. Probably being a 'bitch,' but I don't care. I also wield influence when I find the need at times, and that isn't something I've done before, either.
Gotta love the "Cartmans" among us. It sounds like he needs to be taken down a peg or two. You can tell a lot about a person when you give them a little power. They can either use it responsibly or they turn into little tin gods.
Yeah, just a jerk. And Cartman is about right! lol Actually, from the looks of it (mannerisms), the guy was an alcoholic or drug addict at one point in his life, and I dunno, my theory is that he is using the situation some way. Maybe to 'look' good. It happens around here, I'm afraid. Same situation happened to me already, when a cashier at a grocery store actually called the police because she thought I was stealing something. The lady had the same mannerisms, and seemed a bit 'off.' Nonetheless, I had to go through questioning, etc...kinda a harassing situation with the police. Luckily, I was able to produce the receipt for the Starbuck's coffee I'd just bought. JEEZUS.
Power is used wrongly in our society and it's use should carry a burden of necessity and proof of that necessity--either 'private' institutionalized power, OR the power behind the state (more libertarian philosophy spilling out).
This is interesting...particularly that it came out about the same time I was writing this hub:
I'm not so sure I agree with her opinion. Of course that could be because I'm a guy and view the world in a libertarian way.
Women bring a different skill set to the table, but it's one that compliments men's skills. And, of course, men and women both manifest these skills to varying degrees. So long as both women and men aim for the same business goals, I don't see the problem.
What most people can't get their heads around is that women can excel in what have traditionally been the skill set of men and men can do the same with skills that have been associated traditionally with women. What's important, I think, is that we allow people to drift to whatever skill set they are strong at and not assume too much where someone else is concerned.
P.S. I hear you about tin gods. I'm seriously not considering flying after some of the stories I've heard about the TSA. Little Napoleons they are, from what I've heard.
Well, you aren't married, for one, LDT. It makes a difference. You're also a pretty bright guy...and you aren't older. That also makes a difference, as far as the discussion in that article. It did reference 'respect' more than anything else, if you noticed, however.
It is true, btw, about TSA. It was worse in past years, tho--things are a little more settled now, but there are still hassles. Don't get me started on some AZ cops. It only takes one bad apple to create a stereotype.
That's who it was? Geez.
haha Yes--class, huh? Well, you once kinda told me, but I didn't wanna believe it. Guess it's cuz I don't think he's sexy or something, lol.
haha..you're hilarious, nicely written.
Great Hub! In the Hip Hop culture, if a female rapper says she 's a bitch or a bee-yotch, she is saying that she is strong, invincible, and she may beat a man down if she has to. So, it is made to sound like it is a positive thing. But, I still believe that it is rude to call a woman a "bitch." Alanis Morrisette says she is everything including a bitch with her hit song with the title "Bitch." Her lover wouldn't want it any other way. So, for some women to say they are bitches is something uplifting. If a man said a woman is a bitch, it's a negative thing. Of course, Sheree's gay hair stylist calls Sheree "the boss bitch" on the series "The Real Housewives of Atlanta." For Sheree, that was something positive coming from him. This gave her her niche for fashion.
Litta, gotta dig that banner.... and to you I'm Ms Bitch! That one is SO good! Laugh! I'm with Pam, here. Strong women with their own opinions and not afraid to express them tend to be called the B word, while men that show the same attitude are called strong and confident. And that's not the itchiest double standard, I abhor quite a bit more the one about sleeping around, where men are studs and women are whores. BAH, and big double BAH. Kudos for the hub!
Joe- Thanks for reading and for becoming a fan, :)
Tim- Oh, yeah. Now I remember that Alanis Morisette song. She was a lot of things. Yeah, and for a real connection, you do have to take the whole person, don't you? haha. I may be many things but I've always had those real connects. Thank God. Thanks for stopping by.
Elena- Sigh. Yep, I'm with you and Pam both Those female double standards are retarded. (What are the standards supposed to be?) I'm gonna die being WHO I am. lolol...but that's how I feel today, thought I'd express it. Nice to see you. :)
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Sometimes a jerk is just a jerk. Sorry Lita, but you know I just had to let the meanie weanie above know ;).
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And the comments below are WHY it's just a cigar.
Hmmm. TK. You must have configured HP to be stuck or frozen or something, lol. No. My comments above (oh, poor little POS troll, haven't had enough today?) are telling it like it is. Too bad you are mentally ill. Seek help.
All the rest of your comments will now be deleted.
And if you continue to post here (as you have the 4 comments I've already deleted), TK, I will report you and it may be the last straw in seeing you banned forever from Hubpages.
Go do whatever lonely things trolls do at 4am in Kansas, ;)...Right off of County Rd. 576, in the middle of nowhere. You are as scary as they come.
"Go do whatever lonely things trolls do at 4am in Kansas, ;)...Right off of County Rd. 576, in the middle of nowhere. You are as scary as they come."
Kansas, Toto?
County Rd 576?
???????????
Click your heels together and get back on those meds!
Keep posting. I am going to report you and I need more evidence. Yes, your IP traces exactly there ... You are God knows what or who living in a very rural area of Kansas using America Online...very old school provider. Not too tech savvy, I take it.
Correct, tksensei, I am a bitch, like you have said a few times over. I went to a Halloween party tonight...what did you do? Oh, yeah, you crawled the boards to search for people to curse at and torture verbally, and obviously you don't need a costume--that dog/troll costume always seems fine.
btw, concerning your last post 1:45 am my time--the Indian actresses? Not, lol, like you've had/been around a woman in probably YEARS. haha. We all know...and I mean that literally.
And actually, SP, that would not be the term I would use for the above....and neither would most of the people posting here.
"Yes, your IP traces exactly there ... You are God knows what or who living in a very rural area of Kansas"
Where on earth did you get that? You are waaaay off. I don't think I've ever even been to Kansas. Honest. I even mentioned where we live in my profile. Your stalking skills need some serious work.
Almost anyone knows how to trace an ip. Obviously, not you...whatever you are. Keep posting, so everyone can see what you are. This makes 10 posts. And guess, what? I'm aware that as LDT says, you need 'validation.' And I don't care if I'm right or wrong--who or what you are. I don't give a damn about anything regarding you except that you leave me alone.
"Almost anyone knows how to trace an ip"
Well, you're doing it wrong whatever it is. Really and true.
I see that gets to you, that someone might know "the truth." It's only too obvious, sorry. You have nobody fooled...the thousands of posts all over the internet laced with swear words. Not even management here is 'fooled.' They have reasons of their own for allowing you to remain here.
And it isn't ME specifically tracing the IP. Obviously. ...11 posts.
"I see that gets to you"
Apparently it doesn't even get close.
"You have nobody fooled"
Fooled about what?
12 posts. Your actions are proving what you are.
My actions of responding to your comments directed toward me specifically? Ok.
It's 3 am here. I just took a shower after being out all night. You have been on HP, crawling the boards mainly all day/night....looks like you were after earnesthub tonight. You are obsessively posting here after making a suggestion (again) that I am a bitch. What you are is mentally ill...if I were to suggest, I'd say probably antisocial personality disorder, but I would think there is something wrong with you physically, too. You troll boards on the internet FT. Some more tech savvy than me (friends) have done checks. Your hubs are not at the level a freelance writer would ever want to be, and the last one contains verbiage that would give a psychiatrist pause--describing killing in a very graphic way. They also seem to be quite obsessive--and for an adult to be writing such crap about a squirrel--it's just strange. As is attacking people and calling them names and swearing at them all over the internet.
"It's 3 am here. I just took a shower after being out all night."
LOL - no comment
" You have been on HP, crawling the boards mainly all day/night"
Guess again
"What you are is mentally ill..."
Now is that a nice thing to say?
"I would think there is something wrong with you physically, too."
Wow, really? You don't think that kind of comment is a little silly? Come on now...
"Some more tech savvy than me (friends) have done checks."
Seems you need to find some more skilled "tech savvy" friends, 'cause they're not doing so hot so far.
"Your hubs are not at the level a freelance writer would ever want to be"
LOL! When you post something like that don't you stop for even a second to consider what it says about YOU? Think about it.
As I am, admittedly, a big bitch, tksensei, as you have said time and time again, I don't give a damn about 'nice,' especially in regard to you. I'm sick of your crap. And yes, as a professional writer (one who does it for a living) I think your 'writings' shows signs of mental illness and obsession. Stick with living with you mother and trolling the net all day. It suits you.
Every time you continue to post here, tk, I report it as abuse. There is also a record on your hubtivity. That makes 8 comments that have so far been deleted.
10 comments now deleted posted by tksensei and reported as abuse.
Maybe that'll fix the little xxxxer.
Thanks, Ralph. I'm hoping. lol Yes, and Sweetiepie says he was on one of hers and kept coming back the same way, so that she eventually had to delete the hub.
Good luck with that, Lita - keep deleting comments and ignoring it. That frustrates the sad, pathetic troll more than anything - don't let its spite get under your skin.
Hope that you enjoyed the Halloween party :D
Thanks, Sufi. I was working, officially, lol. Part of the job. But it was fun. I have photos of crazy costume people & am debating making a hub out of them. :)
Sounds great - the Greeks don't have Halloween, so we missed out on all of the fun. Look forward to the photo Hub - that should be worth a laugh :D
Ha! When you see what some of they people came up with, yeah. It was funny.
I'm so glad you finally admitted it publicly. And look at all the attention it's brougnht you!
Looks to me like "bitch" is synonymous with "troll magnet."
You are simply irresistible, Lita!!!
MM-- I know, I just don't know how they can be so bored, ;). Aren't there plenty of willing true beauty babes out there to flirt with for the Eastern Block one...or can't the others, in all their macho strength take that pinko commie socialist Hitler liberal government out?? They have to go on the internet and hide behind avatars like ugly little people they are?
I'm not really interested in the 'attention,' I hope you know, MM. I don't need it. I am who I say I am. And, believe it or not, this happens to me in real life, too. One example is that I ride a mountain bike to work. I guess that makes me stand out from others in some way....you suppose? With all those cars going by the fast food drive thrus? It does royally piss me off, however. So, thought I'd admit to Bitch-ness, yeah.
There is actually a long story behind the TK BS. Several of us know it--I'm actually tired of repeating it.
I have never known you to be anything but a very nice lady during my interactions with you on HubPages. I can't believe anybody would call you that horrid name. I do see a couple names in this comment thread that . . . :D
As always, James, you remind us all how to behave like true gentlemen, through quiet example. :)
Hi, James- Appreciate your comment. You are an example of one of the good conservatives on Hubpages. We may disagree politically, but no, I cannot imagine you ever calling anyone any horrid names. The point is, nobody agrees on everything--and it would be very boring if they did. I appreciate an exchange of ideas... These so-called "conservatives," are another thing...and shouldn't be tolerated, frankly.
Sufi- Hey. :)
Lita- Hi! I a new Hubber (?) and your Hub popped up on my related links. I liked your post.
Women should reclaim and repurpose the word "bitch" as our own. Taking your power back by stealing the words of your attacker is an effective defense tactic. And there's nothing wrong with that. I would say that women really have already done this to a great degree, but many of us still have a tough time dealing with the word being hurled at us. Especially when it is unexpected or just plain untrue.
You don't really come off as a bitch - you express yourself pretty reasonably and thoughtfully, so I think the person spewing the hate is really the one full of vitriol. Girl-power! LOL
Liz
Hi, Liz! Welcome to Hubpages. You also sound reasonable and thoughtful...and we so need more of you on here.
I think what you expressed is absolutely true in my case. I just (luckily?) haven't had much experience in certain circles. Most of the men I've been around resemble Sufi or James or Blue Dog or Ralph Deeds, above. Women sometimes say the word to each other, but it doesn't seem as nasty - I guess because it IS still obviously a misogynistic term.
Hey! Power to the people - girlZ included! lol Thanks.
What a total idiot! Not you hun, obviously you're just a "b***h" lol (am I allowed to say lol without being reprimanded severely by a troll I wonder?). Stick at it girl, I think you are FABULOUS, infact I just made you an honorary scouser (ok, ok a dubious honour but one made with love and admiration for my soul-sister!) xxx
Merseyblue- lol. OK, I'll take that comment about being a 'scouser' as a compliment (might have to ask Sufi or somebody from Britain what the heck that means!) And, thanks very much, sis, :).
I am getting a car magnet for sure now! Lita~ I am inspired.
Haha, Anita! I inspired you to get a 'bitch' car magnet? What an honor, ;) lol. Thanks for stopping by!
Thank you Sufi!
I've come to accept my bitch-dom lol If telling it like it is makes me a bitch, then so be it. :D
Thanks, Janetta. I agree--that's the most succinct description of the situation I've heard. :)
Yup, sometimes a cigar is still a cigar...
And sometimes harassment is still harassment. Go away, tksensei. NOBODY is interested in what you have to say. Or lack there of.
Suggest you ignore the little mutt.
Agreed, Ralph. She/he/it follows me around, however. Would love to ignore the mutt, lol.
Let me know if the comment I just wrote actually appeared somewhere. That's awfully frustrating and I was especially complimentary. Pressed the damn button and pooooooof - as if by magic it vanished.
Do you have my feedback Lita?
If not, I shall return and rewrite it. Better I don't until I know. Repeat posters can be viewed as lacking control/being a stalker/something other ;)
No... No other message than the above. And trust me, it's a little bit more than repeat posting. Like 15 comments of garbage. And the hub is named after said poster.
It's fine, though. I'm getting used to the 'bitch' tag.
I imagine you would be getting used to it.
Sure, I get it already, TK. Women of a certain intelligence level and different political views intimidate you. And you are still a bore in the greatest sense of the word.
And I'm getting used to it from unattractive trolls such as yourself online, yes. In real life, they rarely are in the position or have the ability to say much of anything.
Intelligence level, political view, intimidate, unattractive...
...hitting all those key words...
And a cigar is sometimes just a cigar...
I guarantee that you obviously have much more experience with this kind of, uh, low class rhetoric and that type of person, tk, regardless of your pathetic posturing. You continue to look like the ugly thug that you are.
You don't have to be so unpleasant you know.
"I guarantee that you obviously..." ???
Interesting construction
Let me state the obvious: You are the most unpleasant troll on Hubpages. I've seen you making fun and cursing at a huge variety of people on their hubs and in the forums. I truly have no idea why anyone would feel the need to do this. However, the people I've known in real life like this have extraordinary low self esteem and are projecting it on to others.
And you are not qualified (nor am I interested) in your editorial comments. After all, I've read one of your hubs. Complete crap...especially if you are what you state on your profile. I'd be embarrassed as a writer, displaying that as formal writing (this is not). Need to work on word choice and plausibility. Also, just complexity, period. It does read as a 19-year-old might write it. A "C" student freshman in college, actually. And that is my actual opinion.
You can work on it. Quit trolling. Might help.
"I'd be embarrassed as a writer, displaying that as formal writing"
Oh my goodness, how hurtful! Do you really not see how all this "You're an ugly, stupid, doo-doo head!" stuff makes YOU look? A 'C' student? 19? Your "actual" opinion? LOL!!! Maybe you really don't see how this makes you look, I dunno.
Mighty nice day here in Kansas, I tell ya! LOL!
I am not at all worried, TK. And stand by everything I say. That's the difference, you know.
And AOL is a very old-school type connection. There really is no mistaking your IP address outside of Wichita. Nor of the other character who has the exact same address.
I imagine its a very nice middle of the night...day...and night...that you troll in KS.
Deleting any more of TK's trash now and reporting it as abuse.
As far as humoring tksensei here...and not taking reporting of abuse through hubpages seriously: I have never taken Hubpage moderation seriously since the handling of said troll, plus witnessing countless other instances.
Lita Sorensen says:
5 weeks ago
I welcome any comments or debate. To save 'others' some time, yes, I'm a huge, fat or scrawny, ugly, nasty bitch, bitch, bitch, condescending, bitter, horrible ol bitch. lololol. :)
That's enough. Other vitriol will be deleted.